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Star Wars (at least the original trilogy) is veeeery metaphor rich in terms of spirituality, although you have to look for it a little bit. But for me, it is not just a mindless blockbuster with lots of explosions in it even though that is a signifacnt part

For instance:
"You will find only what you bring in."

- Yoda

aka The law of attraction / manifestation.

Just curious, are your nightmares getting any better?

I must disagree with you on this. I take medication and it helps me greatly. And yet I am still practicing to astral project. Now obviously medication isn't my first choice I would rather be off of it but I do much better on it. Now that isn't to say that IsayWhaat needs medication. He may be just fine without it. But what I am saying is that if we can't help him then he really should get on some medication to help. BTW I don't feel drugged at all, I feel like myself. Also IsayWhaat  you don't have to take the full amount of any medication if it works for you at half the dose then do that. I have half the medicine that is prescribed and I do just fine.


Again good luck.

If your medication si helping you, then there is no reason to change it. I definitely do not recommend anyone stop taking medication. hat would be dangerous! But... if you are taking pills prescribed for mental issues reasons (because you told the doctors about your NP experiences), then I don't think you really need them. If you actually are taking these, then it is helping you because you believe so. If you are taking them for a different reason associated with mental health, then it might be a different case.

So, you're practically saying that I have to beat myself in this game? So, it's all me? And I beat it by stopping the fear? And when I beat fear, then what? I will keep dreaming normally? I will be lying in bed wide awake and paralysed waiting for SP to end? Point is, even if I can beat fear, it's not fear what messes me up. It's the fact that I can't distinguish things anymore. It use to be normal dreams, lucid dreams and sleep paralysis. But now, there are no normal dreams, there are no lucid dreams, even sleep paralysis isn't the same. I started dreaming everything inside my room. I dream normal dreams inside my room, I dream having sleep paralysis, I dream of being lucid (again starting inside my room), hell I even dream of waking up. How do I sort those out, because "feeling the difference" just isn't enough. I can't make the difference. Imagine that I'm a first grader and I'm trying to understand multiplying. My brain can't comprehend the difference while I'm in that state of dreaming, not until I wake up.

I started reading about Astral projection and OOBE on this forum and everything that you can do when sleep paralysis kicks in, but it's all so confusing I'm not really understanding it. And the fact I keep experiencing different sleep paralysis and dreams isn't helping at all. Guess my first step should be beating the fear. You made it sound so damn easy. I'm actually questioning myself right now, what the hell kept me from beating that fear alone. Thank you for clearing that it's me who's making all this mess.

Yes, it is just you. When you beat the fear, then you will be in complete control. You can do as you wish then. I don't know if you can stop having APs, but if that is what you wish, than you probably can. But if you want to learn something new and great, then you have a great opportunity to start exploring non-physical realms. I wish it was happening that naturally to me as well. And it will most likely be fun this time. And meaningful. Not saying that this situation you are currently in is not meaningful. It probably is happening for a purpose, to teach you something. Most likely it is associated with those fear issues, I woluld say.

I understand you are confused by all the new experiences but do you really need do distinguish between the dreams? Take the experience as it comes. You will get used to it, don't worry. It may stressful now but the so called false awakening, for instance, is nothing rare and nothing to fear. I would say be patient and by gaining more experience, you will start sorting things out.

Yes, I would definitely want to avoid medication. I hate being sick and they would only remind me of hospital. Further on, I'm not really a person that can go and share love and smiles. Don't get me wrong, I'm not depressed or anything, but can't I just try and be peaceful. Can't I dominate the fear? Isn't there any other way to push fear away? Isn't a simple realization that I cannot be harm and staying calm enough to overcome the fear? It really was a mess last few weeks, but I didn't know what was going on at the time. Or do I really have to try and boost all these nice feelings; love, happiness, enlightenment, etc. to beat the fear?

Definitely keep  medication as the last resort, but it won't be necessary, I am pretty sure.
You may boost it, I would say it is worth the try, you cannot know you cannot do it until you have tried. The same applies to meditation, tryit and see what happens. And as Xanth pointed out, you don't need to live an ascethic life or something, a few minutes a day is enough. You will soon start noticing a huge difference in how calm and at peace you suddenly are in comparison with what it used to be. And I really recommend you try it. And a little advice, while meditating (doesn't matter which meditation type you choose but I would almost bet you are going to try the most common one - focusing on breathing and letting othr thoughts go) don't push it, just let the thoughts come and go, don't try to push them away with force, unless you want to get frustrated. This is the most common mistake that unexperienced meditators make and that's why people keep saying - I cannot meditate, I cannot focus etc.

But no, it is not necessary. The onl necessity for you is to realise you are in complete control. Then you can start from there and develop your own "rituals" on how you can cope with things. These are just exapmles of what works for me and/or other people. But every individual is different and so you are welcome to be creative and develop methods of your own.

Soki is definitely spot on with his post.
You got into some trouble, which seems pretty serious, but only you yourself are the reason why this is happening. And just as you created this, you can also stop it.

There is also one thing that Soki didn't address. You wrote that you had said to yourself you wanted to get into another environment with unicorns and so on. And you didn't. You might be confused why it didn't work and why we still keep telling you you are in control of this whole situation. Well, I am not really sure if you are familiar with the principle of manifestation, but it seems like you might be. At least a little bit. One thing you need to understand, though, is that you not only need to think something, you must put some will behind it and you actually have to believe it. And also you have to be calm and cheerful and overall positive if you wish to set a positive environment around you. Why? Because likes creates likes and if you are going to be scared then these negative emotions will overwhelm one positive thought ("I want the unicorns here and now.") you might have. And from the context I am judging this thought was rather a desperate one, with very little belief and strenght behind it to back it up. So don't be surprised it did not work.

But if you realise your power of the entire situation and if you stop feeding those beings harrasing you with all the fear and if you actually start spreading positive energy all around (laughing, imagining sending love, golden light or whatever else might work for you) and if you don't just send positive energy, if you become positive whole heartedly, then all the negative will disappear. But you have to know that you are in control, which you are. Even if those beings are real (most people here don't think so, but I think a minority of negs may be real), they cannot get at you. At all. Because you are positive and thus you manifest only positive things around you where negativity has no place.

If you are still unsure about the concept, try watching the Rhonda Byrne's "The Secret." There is better material than this on the topic (basically, this is a bit of commercial bovine excrement sometimes) but it is a good stuff for rookies because the things she talks about in her book and which all the people talk about in the documentary is based in this physical reality. Therefore, it might be easier to grasp for you if you are new to the concept of non-physical reality. And yes, even the documentary is true, you can definitely change the physical reality using your thoughts, too, it just needs more will and patience than in the dreamlands, because our everyday-life world is more stable than dreams/APs/OOBEs/LDs. But ask Xanth about what he thinks the difference between these four is. (None except for the level of lucidity)

Another thing that might help with overcoming the fear is asking yourself the question: What have these negative beings done to me so far? They surely have got me scared, got me a few sleepless nights, and drained some energy out of me as a result but have they really done something serious to me? No just scared me. If I stop being scared, though, would they still be able to do something when all they have accomplished so far is scaring me? Off course not!

Hope this helps. And really do something about it. It could turn into some really serious stuff. But then again, you would be the cause. So don't let yourself be driven mad by yourself. Medication is not a way out!!! It may stop the "symptomps" you are having but at what cost? Being drugged and found mentally ill and undergoing medical treatment would be a hell. And for nothing. Doctors, even psychiatrists, don't believe in anything else than the brain, (most of them, anyway, I am a med student myself, but then I used to be very physical-oriented until I had my first OOBE) so there would be no other outcome of talking to a doctor. And this would cost you not only this gift (how happy would many including me to get these as often as you do) but also a considerable part of your life. Medication is for those who don't think can handle this or similar situation. But they thing incorrectly. They can. And you can, too.

I like your last comment Bran, it could easily explain away the inherent safety I'm now used to.
What some people would call negs have been experienced, all they do is trouble you. That's just it, trouble you, nothing more. Having fears and beliefs may exacerbate and feed the cycle of the terror until the practitioner either gives in or fights back. Fighting back removes the fear, giving in isn't an option, it'd make you too scared to sleep thus leading to physical world interaction.
Please note physical world.
It's this where things are misleading. Being one with everything and being an individual are two complete opposites. As we exist in our mind is consciousness, its very difficult for an individual to accept the oneness without experiencing it. You are your own consciousness you are the whole environment you are in. The grass, the metals and even the electrical processes around you. You become the next guy and all their thoughts are yours, you know their life as if it was your own. This encompasses everything in the universe, all controlled by thought. One thing you start to understand is these represented negs are only thoughts of others in as much as what they see them to be from reading about them. If they had experience being them the result could be better explained in a physical world context as, ' a wasp is only doing what a wasp is supposed to do'.
Think about things that way and you'll see so much more.
As my signature indicates, close your eyes and open your mind to really see.
Seeing is believing, your eyes are only a piece of this.

Yeah, thank you. Lots of post you guys make are helping me a lot in looking at things in a different way. I totally agree negs can (almost always) be explained away as a creation of your mind, your manifestation. Yet, are they all just the same kind? I know I can imagine non-existent friends. But are my friends and all the people on Earth in this physical realm my creation as well? What about you, Szaxx? Have you also been created by a manifestation done by myself? I understand that in a way, everyone else than me is me just as much as I am me. But I think it has to do with one consciousness being broken into different parts temporarily, to experience this reality in an unique way, perhaps in order to re-discover itself once again. But I don't think it is a matter of simple imagination. It may be possible off course (But then, why am I wasting so much time interacting with products of my own mind?  ), but I am not inclined to think so. And the same thing applies, I think, to other beings in other realities than this physical one, be it loving or malevolent ones. Thay may and thay may not be real, although more often than not they are not real.

Well, not necessarily of "you"...
You are everything and everything is you.  It could be an aspect of something else that isn't part of your illusion of your individualness. 
That's a "physical-based" perception.  That's the thought that you're this physical, meat-based being who is separate from everything with your own identity and psychology.
There is no physical or psychological... that's part of the illusion.  You're consciousness, because everything is simply an extension of you and you an extension of it... it's all, ultimately, 100% harmless.  You come from consciousness, and at the end of the day, you'll go back to consciousness.  You are that which is attacking you.

It's like taking a glass of water... there's nothing you can do to the water to harm it.  You can freeze it, boil it, turn it into vapour... your consciousness is like water in that way. 
If you boil the water... you are the water... you are the heat... you are the fire... you are the container the water is in... are you everything.  So what's there to hurt?

Not quite. I am well beyond thinking I am just my body. Yet I do have it while experiencing this physical reality. And if it gets hurt, then I also get hurt. Not in let's say wider reality, but just in this physical one. When I finally die in here, there is going to be no trace of it, but for the time I am still living in physical, it can be pretty bad.

About getting hurt psychologically... well I see you don't like this expression and I understand it. After all, it is not quite accurate but it is a term people usually use. And sometimes I kinda forget who I am talking with here... people who unlike most of others think outside of the physical box and suddenly common words describing physical matters (ie psychological) don't apply anymore. And then there is Xanth, constantly and unwaveringly working on tearing apart labels which we put on stuff. LOL But don't worry, I know it is just a label and I take it as such.

So let's call it our true self, soul, our consciousness or whatever else you prefer. After all, it is just another label, isn't it? Anyway, I will set an example. You astral project... suddenly, you are jumped on by negs. Now, let's not bother with arguing whether they are real or not. If you are a person not quite ready for that kind of encounter, perhaps someone who has never experienced anything like this before, it might scare you badly and thus affect you later on. Especially if you are physically oriented and not believing what you just went through. You might create some strange belief systems which will drive you mad or you cen get mad straight away. Because you couldn't cope with your astral experience. And as some testimonilas from the retrievals, NDEs etc. suggest that these belief systems might drag on until after you have died here and create a very unpleasant after-death environment in which you can get stuck. You might not call it a process in which you get hurt but still... a physical life full of mental illness treatment and a very painful transition after death seem s like a big deal to me. I know, it sounds like the really worst case scenario but... can it not happen?

The only "potential" harm is that your spiritual development is delayed, because you've chosen to take a Fear-based perception into yourself.  ONLY delayed, never stopped.  Your spiritual development CAN be stopped though... although the only thing with the power to do that is yourself.  Nobody else has that power, that makes it a choice.  A non-permanent choice, thankfully.

You would be right if all the things you believe in were to apply. After all, the potential situation I described in the above article can be also a described as just a delay (in my opinion, it can still be painful, though). I am not implying that your beliefs are wrong. In fact, they make a lot of sense and I am inclined to think you might be just about right. I am all for the collective consciousness and it is undoubtedly this way as all the combined evidence of people involved in "spiritual" matters shows.
Yet you cannot be so sure about nothing being able to hurt you. I commend you for putting down labels and belief systems of people on this forum. It is actually very helpful to us all. But I cannot help it but to think that you have created a belief system of your own (and you people keep saying belief systems are no good) saying there are no bad things out there. It might be correct just as well it might be not. Surely this attitude is extremely helpful in the way that you are extremely unlikely to run into trouble. You believe there is nothing bad, you create a reality where there is nothing bad. Manifestation. Very good. But... This doesn't mean that you are the onlycreator of what the consciousness looks like. There is always this distinct possibility that the universe is even more complex than that and that we cannot know if everything adds up perfectly just as we imagine the way the universe works. We just cannot know until we join the consciousness and maybe even then we will find out we don't know as this consciusness might be just a part of yet another consciousness above it. What about that? LOL

And even if everything adds up perfectly, there might be something amiss. Imagine a theoretical situation when some entity  became dissociated from the consciousness becuase it created a belief system for itself and it got stuck in it. Now it cannot find its way back to consciousness and as it is baffled by what is going on, it is now attacking other beings (perhaps draining energy out of them, wishing them ill or whatever). And since this being is currently independent from the consciousness, it has its own will and it manifests events on its own. And when it manifests a situation where it wants someone else to be hurt, maybe it can happen even though the being that is being hurt didn't manifest a situation in which it gets hurt. It is then a matter of whose will and therefore manifestation is stronger, I guess? And even though I understand that this state of one being hurting other and a being being hurt is not permanent as eventually these beings eventually unite with the consciousness, it can still be a very significantly painful process. That is the risk of getting hurt I am talking about.

Simply put, we cannot know. And before we know we should be open to all possibilities. Just thinking one way doesn't make it so 100% as my above theoretical example is trying to show. So I think the most important thing is keeping a strong will and a positive attitude to eliminate all risks. But then I guess these potential risks are not something we should be worried too much about as I also think nothing like permanent damnation is included. LOL

BTW: Wow, I had no idea I wa going to make this post so long, sorry for that. I just felt like writing and writing... and writing. Sorry.

Nope.  Because anything you experience won't be "Area 51"... it'll be a mixture of everyone's Intent. 
When you project to somewhere "on Earth", you're not actually ON Earth.  You're experiencing a created reality being fueled by your (anyone's... everyones?) mind.

It's not as easy as taking your experience at face value and that's that. 

What about remote viewing? Btw I think someone from this forum actually tried to go to one such a place, maybe the White House? And he could not for it was somehow guarded. At least the person thought so.

If you are everything and everything is you... then what is a "neg"?

A negative aspect of yourself? Did I get it right? Did I get it right?!!!

Anyway, assuming this is true, it doesn't mean it is necessarily harmless. For also in everyday lifea negative thought can do you a harm: first psychologically, then physically. And if you encounter a neg = your negative thoughts and your negative you in NP reality, it can harm you as well, although not physically, at least not primarily. It can affect you mentally if you are not ready for it. I believe many people considered mentally ill just couldn't handle a NP experience or cannot still handle an ongoing experience because they were mentally prepared and thus their illness. And that is why your state of mind decides if it is dangerous or not.

And about the physical damage... even Robert Monroe mentions physical effects of NP on this reality. I think it is always a matter of amount of energy you put into believing thing and thus materialising them. Let's not underestimate that.

And there is still a possibility it is not true. There is still much to understand and surely our perception of NP is wrong or incomplete. The question is: how much wrong and incomplete is it? My point being, until you know it for sure, you cannot say that nothing can happen to you there because you simply do not know. And you are mostly operating with a theory that is backed up with your own experiences and that is very plausible and I am inclined to think it is close to being spot on, yet it is just a theory and also just your own personal truth.

But there actually might be something sinister with an existence on its own and just because we do not believe in it does not make it non-existent.

Be it as it may, I am sure about one rule which applies all the time. That is the law of attraction. You cannot generate a dangerous situation if your mind is positive and thus you are safe.

At the moment I don't think it has any effect on the science community if you provide even the most infallible evidence. They will just decide your methodology was flawed or you are a hoaxer.

I also don't think it matters who does the experiment. You see noted scientists try to investigate this stuff and as soon as they find out for themselves that it is real they lose all credibility in the scientific community and they just become another woo woo crackpot.

Yes, exactly. This is what I hate about science. It claims to be striving for new knowledge, breaking dogmas and explaining things, but it very often creates its own silly dogmas, which it sticks to no matter what and then it takes a hell lot of energy to shatter these dogmas and to move forward with the knowledge (many scientists throughout the history were laughed at and are now praised). But it only leads to a creation of a new dogma and the cycle can be then merrily repeated. Unfortunately, this applies not only to spiritual, but also to findings that can cause money losses to certain groups, which then supress them.
But if you want to research these things for let's say your own knowledge and to make things clearer to yourself and to people who are open-minded, it might still be a good idea to use a proper scientific methodology. Critical thinking, statistical evidence and so on still have their merit, even though your audience is not academic.

The research is looking into the vibrational relation of etheric and physical materials. I'm looking for someone to tell me the physical materials that are more dense when felt while on the etheric plane obviously to find out which physical materials have the highest vibration.

I think it would be absolutely fabulous to get done an unbiased scientific project dealing with NP reality, which would clarify a bit more what NP is about. However, you need to understand that today's science is absolutely closed-minded in such matters. If you intend to do an actual project including presentation of results to an audience (which I somehow got an impression you might be considering, perhaps because of the phrasing "scientific research"), you will have to think about what audience to choose. More likely than not, you will be laughed at and your findings will be disregarded. An example is the Monroe Institute: no-one takes them seriously, except for people like us, who do not form an academic but rather a spiritual community.Eeven though some of us do have an academic background in a different area, but then we usually do not present our NP experiences to our academic community, for it would accomplish nothing. In my opinion, the scientific community must evolve a bit further in order to be able to acknowledge these things in an unbiased manner and this will surely take some more time. Currently, lucid dreams as a product of mere brain activity are as far as they are willing to go.

However, if this is not the case and you intend to conduct the research for yourself, then go ahead. However, you will find that the way people perceive NP reality is very different and individual. Therefore, I am not sure this is the right topic to research. You can learn the art and seek your answer on your own but then others may come to different conclusions. Maybe I misunderstood you about what exactly you want to find out and I am sorry if I did (would you mind elaborating?) but if you want to look into vibrations of physical materials, then there are perhaps better ways to get the answer than going NP. Have you considered using conventional scientific methods?

Anyway, good luck with learning to go NP. I have yet to learn the art to go out there on purpose, but so far, I have been concentrating on other things and lacking the determination to do this, which is crucial, as Xanth has pointed out. But I know I will get it done eventually and you will too, if you really want!

Hi all,

Hoping someone can shed some light on a feeling I occasionally get, when trying to AP. I'll get pretty relaxed, into the mind awake/body asleep state and then it'll feel like I'm turning - even thought I'm lying in bed and still. I did think this was perhaps some sort of unconscious attempt at separation but I've tried letting it do it's thing but to no avail. It just becomes uncomfortable and I'll get up.

Any ideas?

Hi.
This is a very common feeling for me when I meditate and/or try to project. For me it is a sign of being in a state of deep relaxation where I lose my proper perception of the physical world. Added to the feeling of rotations I get other funny perceptions like my nose or my belly growing to a monstrous size or  hanging upside down. This is as far as I have ever got so far, though. As well as you, probably, I get too excited as it gets stronger and stronger and even though I try to calm down, not to think too much and concentrate on my mediation practice instead, eventually I lose it and the sensation ceases. Positive thing is that with practise I manage to hold on to this feeling longer and longer to a point where it gets more and more non-physical.

Unlike you, however, I find this experience both cool and positive, for it is a sign I am onthe right track. At least I think so. Many people say this is the turning point where you start to perceive NP reality or that the spinning sensation means that your NP body actually spins. I have even heard it is a sign of the root chakra being opened. Dunno. But I would say keep at it.

BTW It has been a long time since I last wrotehere so hi to everyone again.

Hello! Thank you for your reply. I read about zappers and their effects long ago, but I don't know where to buy them/how to build them on my own. Any ideas?

Hi, sorry for the late reply.

Constructing your own zapper or buying just the first device you come across is probably not a good idea. If you want it to be effective, you should buy a device that can generate accurate frequencies. Every pathogen has got a specific frequency it vibrates on and therefore a specific frequency it resonates with, which causes its death. See: http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/CAFL.htm

So obviously if the frequency you are zapping yourself with is not accurate, you don't kill the right pathogen and it doesn't work. I would recommend reading some reviews on specific devices so you don't buy useless crap. If you want to, I can send you a PM with my personal tip (I don't want to advertise here).

There is also plasma generator which works on the same principle and is more user-friendly in terms of you don't have to hold anything in your hands, it just transmits the frequency to the surrounding environment. I have had a chance to test one of them recently and I got rid of a flu with it. However, these are rather expensive to buy so it is better to know someone who has it, as in my case.

If you want to know more about the principle, buy some of Clark's books.

Hello everyone i was dreaming last night and i saw a person with black eyes. He was almost like a cyborg he said his name was Agent Orange but i have never had a dream that introduced itself anyone ever seen anything like this? Almost like he was talking right to me?

Yeah, Agent Orange, I meet him, too. You be glad you didn't stumble across Agent Banana, he is a badass.

Now seriously, sometimes dreams are not just dreams, they can have a hidden meaning, especially the ones that seem weird and vivid. But I guess it is just up to you to find out what this one was.

[practical explanation]

so you mean im still wrong after explaining practical explanation and you are right without any explanation ? because you are expert at imposing your cheap opinions and personal experience ?

and now if you will not give me some more verifiable and tangible explanation instead of that if you will give me your cheap opinon or personal expierence then you have to keep them to yourself and to your fellows because it is what ? an fools paradise.

Yep, confirmed. You are trolling.
You can't mean that seriously.

Intelligence has to do with the soul, not simply with the brain.

Take electricity, for example. Electricity moves between gross elements and through a gross wire. But the electricity itself -- it is not those elements, not that wire. It is subtle.
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all right for what you are waiting for ? why don't you define what is Conscious on the medical language or scientific basics ? explain it now.

and the first step is to know the difference between a living body and a dead body. What is the difference?

and then next Question is Why a dead child born does not grow, does not change body? The body is a lump of matter. Analyze the body. Where is life?

explain about these points which i have written upside ^. go ahead and do it now. ( and don't give me anytype of link because that is not an argument and i didn't gave any link in my argument )
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Special Note :- and if you are not able to define what is conscious on the basics of medical language or scientific basics then i will say only two words ** Fools Paradise.**
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that is all.

LOL, you probably were not paying attention to what I wrote.
What exactly led you to think that I am one of those sceptical "scientists" who deny everything "non-scientific." If I were, I would not be on this forum in the first place.

Sorry, but I am just beginning to think you are just trolling.

Hello, I don't want to seem like an advertiser of it (I have already mentioned it a couple of times), but this really works. Try zapper, since it is likely that your illness is caused by a parasite. I know, your doctor will probably not agree, but then he was conditioned to believe in only what he was taught. All I can ask you is to be open-minded.

One of the links about zapper:
http://www.drclark.net/products-devices-a-techniques/zapper-basics/zapping

And I will just now try to send you some energy. It would be cool if you wrote if you felt something.

I would like to share an interesting experience I had a few days past. First, I need to say that I, too, prefer meditating in silence or rather in the woods (the sound of leaves and birds singing is even better than just silence, I find ). I usually try to meditate in noisy environment, too, but until a few days ago I was only able to get into the right meditative state when alone.
But last week I was sitting in a noisy room with people talking around me. Our dog was to have a back surgery that day and I didn't want to just sit idle there and feel absolutely helpless, so I decided to try to give him some "remote support." I closed my eyes and visualised him being close to me. After moment I felt like there was actually some kind of connection and energy flowing from me to him. Not just sure if it was for real or just my imagination (I hope it was the first ).
Well, the point is I obtained a strong dissociation from my surroundigs and felt myself rotating in the blackness of my closed eyelids. Now this is a state I had never been able to reach unless completely alone and undisturbed. And also while I was doing this I was able to hear the people around me very clearly and yet my concentration on the meditation or the rotation didn't waver. I could be part of the both scenes at the same time. Cool, huh?
BTW our dog should be fine.

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.

Nope. This only proves that there might  be a next life (and I am also inclined to think so), but not that there really is one. And certainly that is absolutely no proof of your Supreme Lord's existence. BTW: How do you know for sure Krishna is his name? Could it not be Ben for example?

Well, drugs do usually have side effects so don't be surprised. I have never tried any shrooms or anything (and I really don't want to) because
1) I don't want to mess up my metabolism and
2) I don't need to. People around me usually drink a lot to have more fun but they don't realise they can have even greater fun without drinking at all, if it comes from their minset, from within. Just a few days ago I was hanging out with some friends. They were all drinking beer while I was having a tea (BTW it is so refreshing sometimes to step out of line, to behave in the opposite way than everyone around you. You are indeed your own master then. Just saying ). Well, they kept telling me there had to be something in the tea since I was apparently the most drunk and most laughing person around. And yes, I was having a great time and no, there was nothing wrong with tea. So, you see, no alcohol needed. And what is more, no hangover the folowing day.

As I am not hat experienced in the NP, I can't say for sure but IMHO this is also true for astral. When you take psychedelics, then you might have an interesting experience. If you don't, it will most likely be harder to achieve this state of mind but when you finally are there, you will know it was just you who accomlished this with no help from outside, you will be in control of the whole experience and also you will see a better progress in your personal development. And this will make your experience that much more valuable!

If you feel like your symptoms are not onlly connected with "taking shrooms," consider taking up  a sport ( for example swimming is good for issues with back ) and living more vitally.

[but being regular is a challenge, I have to admit.. But I WILL keep at it.]

Hi All!
Thank you very much for your help. Those are all very interesting suggestions and i will absolutely delve into them.  But forgiveness... Such a hard one, yet I have to say that the nail has been hit right on its head! This has also been on my mind for a long time. I am moving to Sydney pretty soon and will defo meet with Robert Bruce and get help from him and will read his book beforehand.
I have started meditation for the purpose of moral relief, equanimity, love growth, forgiveness, OOBE and all the other good things but being regular is a challenge, I have to admit.. But I WILL keep at it.
And, Seapony, I have loved reading your story: knowing that the whole time you were and are not alone is so comforting. Yes, a I could do with a "huge hug".
Again, thank you all very much.
LaserKitty

You don't need the devotion of... let's say a buddhist monk. 30 minutes a day are enough, if you don't have time. It can be anytime in the course of the day, for example before going to sleep or when you wake up as a part of getting ready for  the ay to come. It is not hard to sacrifice as little time as this to something that has so many positive effects. I mean, everyone is able to find that time, it is just a little longer than watching one sitcom episode... and many people seem to be able to catch up with their favourite series even though they claim to be very busy.

So it is not a big deal. Let's get to it!

I don't know how serious your issues are but... sometimes just a meditation helps a lot. It is really that simple but if you practice on regular basis you will soon start noticing how much more emotionally stable you are becoming. And others will notice that, too.

Can't say about your original question, though. But I hear this kind of thing really does work.

I found a way to maybe kill fluoride. Somebody would have to test this but my water tastes incredible after I do it. I fill a HUUUUGE jug of water that I use all day to drink. I live in nature basically so my backyard is a state park pretty much. I set the water down in the dirt to receive earths energy. I let the moon shine on it all night. I then let the sun hit it for hours as it comes up. By the time I am up I go out and taste it and it's incredible. If I leave my water on my desk I can practically taste the metals. Someone should try this and let me know! I do it everynight now.

Check this:
http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/index.html

Your findings are in accord with it. And the intent factor is also a key player, I agree. That and the environment you set your water in both affect the quality of the water, I think.

[Moldavite]

Officially, the only Moldavite on Earth stems from that meteorite that hit the Earth a few billion years ago on what is today the Czech Rep. All moldavites are sold from this area / meteorite hit. The name also comes from the city of Moldautein where supposedly the first pieces were found. If not from this area then they a fake. Of course there are fake moldavites being sold - as with many other stones.

The glassification (of sand) is indeed a phenomenon of nuclear explosions and some researchers and ancient alien astronaut theorists speculate on ancient warfare. But I have not heard that this 'glass' is called Moldavite.

It is called Vltavín!
Now seriously. I have never really been into stones. Not even into Vltavín/Moldavite, even though I come from this area and it is relatively cheap to buy here (if you are not looking for the extra quality). But this really got my attention. Could you please describe what experience you guys have with this stone? I guess there is lot of stuff on this topic out there on the internet but a personal experience is always more trustworthy than these. Cheers

The thing is, I am not afraid anymore. At least I don't think so. Maybe I will be proven otherwise. But still we know nothing for sure. That was my point.