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#51
Quote from: Klaxen_2008 on March 20, 2014, 16:54:38
Just had an idea which I thought could possibly trick the body into having the vibrations to exit from. Tell me if you think its any good.

I thought before you went to bed you could attach 2 vibrating devices to the bottom of your feet before and don't have them turned on but have them set on a timer so they both start to vibrate around 6 or so hours later (when your asleep probably in REM stage) this way when your asleep you can feel the vibrations (very low and not high to prevent waking up) and you may be prompted subconsciously to think these are the real vibrations thus then the body would prompt itself to cause the real vibrations to start throughout the body. Then if you gain any form of lucidity you can use an exit technique to leave your body.

What do you guys think? not a bad idea or stupid? its tricking your body basically to think its the real vibrations and therefore would create its own.

I don't know because you're already aware that you have 2 vibraters at the end of your feet.
#52
Quote from: JesusGonzalez on April 19, 2014, 22:16:02
Ive been trying to astral project for about 4 1/2 months.Ive had some exeriences where i was more than half way out of my body.One time i actually did fly out of my body but i snapped back in.My difficulties are staying awake without falling asleep.What are some of your difficulties.It sounds like so far your on the right path tho . well as in if you focused hard enough you would leave your body instantly.

Mate, Honestly. Being aware while your body falls asleep is easy. You do not even have to make it go asleep. You just need to make your awareness to forget about your physical body. Concentrate on breathing get into a deep relaxation state then boom, State your intention and let your consciousness guide you.
#53
Quote from: Szaxx on April 20, 2014, 07:57:30
Strangely there are a few on site who could project from birth.
How would this fit into your being ready or never wanting to project?

As the art is in full swing from first memories the choice of being ready or not is forced upon them in essence.
These few had no choice and being totally innocent, why do you think the decision was made for them?
They accept the art as normal and later in life when they find out that no-one else can do it, their choice to stop is impossible to take.

I like the way you have said that. They are used to doing it becomes second nature to them. I do believe they do have a choice, But it a hard to put it into words on what I want to say about it really. Yes, We have free will, But there is also getting to the point where we spirit/god/people can make them choices for us? Over-all I am a bit confused on words.
#54
Hello and welcome to the site. We are glad to have you here.  :-)
#55
Quote from: kuurt on April 19, 2014, 22:45:29
Hi, Kurt here.  31 yr old from Indiana.  I have wanted to be able to consciously astral project since I was 18.  Around that time in my life I was avidly trying to project every single day.  Some days I would lie on my back for 3-4 hours at a time trying to make it happen.  Most of the time nothing would happen.  Some times my head would feel weird or like it was filling up with energy or something.  Occasionally I would feel the "vibrations" and feel like I'm on the verge of something happening.  My heart would speed up (or feel like it anyway) and it was always followed up by anticipatory fear.  It's like I knew something was about to happen, but I didn't know what exactly.  It's a scary feeling, and if it wasn't for the fear I probably would have achieved conscious astral projection a long time ago. 

When I say "conscious" astral projection, I mean my attempts to project during the day while I'm fully conscious.  I have experienced astral projection several times, but for me it has always been through the dream state or while I'm sleeping.  It's like I am dreaming or sleeping and I suddenly realize that I'm out of my body.  It's like I completely skip the vibrating and buzzing and the scary part where my hearts racing, and I'm hearing strong wind and feel like I'm caught up in it.  And I just find myself already out and somewhere else. 

I have tried many ways to astral project.  I have tried the astral projection audios created by the Monroe Institute.  I have tried hypnosis, binary beats, theta brainwave stuff.  I've tried them combined.  I've tried the drug salvia divinorum which is suppose to help.  It didn't do anything for me though. 

I use to find myself in that sleep paralysis state a lot while sleeping, where you can't move at all.  That use to happen to me all the time.  I heard somewhere that you can very easily project from that state just by thinking about being out of your body.  One time I had the chance to test that theory and it worked, although I didn't stay out for long.  But, it got me thinking that if I could get to this paralysis state while awake it would be easy to astral project.  Unfortunately, I have never been able to induce it while conscious.  I can lie there for 4 hours and I will not go into the paralysis state.  What is up with that?  Your body releases chemicals while you're sleeping to paralyze you so that you don't act out your dreams.  But, there's no way to fool the body into doing this while you're awake? 

On one hand, I hate how difficult it is to astral project and how scary it is, but on the other hand I am attracted by the many benefits of being able to do it.   

Hello, and welcome to Astral-Pulse. We are glad to have you here. I Would of said, if you would of stuck to it at the age of 18 you would of had a lot of experience by now. But, as I have learned. These things take time and practice. I recently started learning to project consciously, So far it is going good. I would like to say, Try not to force it to happen because that is not going to get you anywhere. Go with the flow, Be one with your consciousness. I have recently got over the fear. But always remember my friend. Fear is a choice.
#56
Once I get more experienced, I want to test an experiment.

2 people would astral project and meet up in the astral plane. I would try and go into the other people's physical body and they shall go in mine. I am wondering what the result would be.

Have you thought about that before?
#57
So, last night i tried another attempt to have an out of body experience. So, I was really relaxed, It was about 1-3 in the morning. My breathing was terrible and I had a upset stomach, So, I am even surpised I ahd this experience. I focused on my breathing, My awareness was not on my physical body, The blackness when you close your eyes started to get bigger and bigger, I seen a few colours. The color that stud out was "purple".  My head started to shake, Got dizzy, I was going to stop but I knew lion would of wanted me to just let it happen, So, I just went with the feeling. Suddenly, I some sort of vibrations on my body, I could feel them filling the whole of my body, Then that's where it went terrible... +-+ My I lost focus and the vibrations started faiding, I was really dissapointed in myself. Until, I was really tired. So, I closed my eyes and sank into a deeper relaxation state. I got the feeling my head was trying to roll over, I stayed like this for a few minutes. It was rather annoying. as I knew my head was physically still..... I just decided to go to sleep then.

What are your opinions on this?
#58
Congrats
#59
Quote from: Xanth on April 19, 2014, 21:05:19
You'd be surprised how many people fight against that idea.  :)

True. but what do you think about it?
#60
Quote from: Xanth on April 19, 2014, 20:47:53
What if I told you... you were god?

That is the thing though, I am god. as you are god.
#61
Quote from: JesusGonzalez on April 19, 2014, 20:32:22
Hell yeah that was ast it takes me ateast 45 minutes to even feel anything.When i say "anything" i mean any "symptoms" or reactions pertaining to almost astral projecting. For example Vibrations,Sounds,Any voices etc.So i should say either your really lucky or have been doing this for a long time.But i have a friend who can fully astral project (leave his Body) within 5 seconds :/ while i myself have yet to have a full astral projection (OBE).

I have been trying to AP for a couple of days, I started on Thursday, I think. I have reached the virbational stage already. I guess it is just the matter of letting it happen.
#62
Quote from: JesusGonzalez on April 01, 2014, 20:15:26
Ive heard of individuals who are able to speak to theire guides without AP.WHile meditating ,while dreaming etc. I was never able to do it.But i guess i just never really tried it or put my intent clear enough.

As, I am a medium. I speak to my guides consciously, He speaks to me back. He is a shaman, Asian. He is like a father to me. Wears a yellow robe. Very wise.
#63
Quote from: Xanth on April 19, 2014, 20:12:43
And there you have the illusion of separation.  :)

How weird, I was discussing about god with someone and they said the exact same thing o.o
#64
Quote from: Lionheart on April 19, 2014, 18:30:57
Lily means you need to "grin and bear it" or "passively observe" it.

It sounds like your focus is too much on your physical vessel still. Try to put your focus outside of you. Try perhaps a barrier 5 ft. away.

The pain is showing you that you need to lose your NP focus more than you are doing. It's challenging, but can be done. You are talking right now with someone that experiences "chronic pain" everyday, almost all the time. I use a good NP focus to rid myself temporarily of it. I also learned to defer it to a later time. Especially when I am working.

I find that you're right. One thing I have learned from my experiences is that "being one" with your consciousness kind of takes your focus off your physical body. I know it does not make sense to you, But it works for me. Kind of letting your consciousness guide you on your journey.

It is like you are running. "Your physical body is chasing after you", You loose focus of the running because your being chased. Don't let that bother you, Focus and your physical body will loose track of you.
#65
Quote from: Lionheart on April 19, 2014, 18:25:48
Not always. I have had some very bizarre locations. Like for instance becoming consciously aware with breaking in the water trying to break a whole in the ice above me, then climbing out of it. That was a doozy and definitely was not my intended destination. But it did teach me something, as all of my NP visits do!  :-)

Let's be honest though, It's different for everyone. I just believe Intent is the most crucial part of preparation.
#66
Quote from: Markus.C on April 19, 2014, 15:57:47
Well, the problem is that I don't understand what's happening really. I can get into some kind of vibrational state fairly easy, but I don't know where to go from there. I get these kind of electric "shocks" in my head, that I am able to enhance so that they appear more frequently. After a while it's not electric shocks anymore, it's just an extremely intense electric buzz in my body and head. But where do I go from there? And also, what's up with the pain? I mean, this state is quite painful to my head and teeth.

Any advice?

I know what you mean, All you've got to do is go with the flow.
#67
Quote from: Astralsuzy on April 19, 2014, 11:45:38
All the time.   I can be underwater, parks, buildings or beautiful landscapes.    I must try to improve on the location where I want to go to.

It's all about intent.
#68
Quote from: Aaron330 on April 19, 2014, 01:56:49
I've always thought that there was no way these guided meditations could work, because how could you focus on projecting with someone talking to you? But do these actually help? I wonder what the experienced guys here think.

Yes they do work, I always meditate to a guided one. But that's just me, People might think differ.
#69
I was nice and relaxed in bed, Stuck on some nice music, intended to astral project and within 10 seconds my head started vibrating/shaking o.o that was fast don't you think........
#70
I highly recommend this guided meditation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-0zGJhiDPY
#71
Quote from: DanishGuy on March 31, 2014, 15:34:52
I have now been meditating daily for about 8 months with a few exceptions because of a life with small kids.
I don't get the strange sensations as in the start anymore. I use a mantra to meditate and mostly after about 15-20 minutes I feel a slight shift away from this reality (sensory input feels a less significant).
I believe this is the mind awake body asleep state or focus 10? - also when I stay in this state for a while it refreshes my energy better than a nap.

While in this state I sometimes see a short video sequence of something random like about 2 seconds. I have found that if I log on to this in a kind of soft and not to forcefull way I can prolong it, and it feels at the same time, that I slip away from this reality very fast.
Is this a way to conscious project?

Thanks for your time.

Regards

DanishGuy

Hey man. For the most important part for conscious projecting is being able to set your intent in pure detail. Let yourself relax, I would say getting into a deep relaxation&deep state of mind before you even attempt. This is what I do. Once You have done that completely, State your intent. Don't focus on your physical body. Keep a clear mind. I don't know how I do it, It just happens. Ok, I got it. "Be one with your consciousness". Meaning that, Just go with the flow. Let your consciousness guide you. Somewhat. If you can get up to this stage you are doing great. Now, Just feel it, Now, you would be feeling like your dropping into a more deeper state of relaxation, Let it relax you, For me, When, I go deeper My mind goes with my body, as if it is fall, this might not be the same with you. Once you are ready, You may started to feel vibrations, I only got vibrations last night and it is scary for the time. always remember man, Fear is a choice.

Good luck on your journey.
#72
Quote from: Fusions on April 18, 2014, 20:18:49
This video actually explains why you are one with all that is, atleast this is one way to understand it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0YybCACQU

No offense, but in my opinion, The understanding is different for everyone.
#73
Quote from: Lionheart on April 18, 2014, 20:06:41
Yes there are! That's why we can show people how to achieve, but in the end, they are the ones that have to decide what is right for them.

Very true, lion. :-)
#74
Quote from: Lionheart on April 18, 2014, 19:47:30
I think their decision is based on more of a subconscious level though. Something beyond their conscious control.

Perhaps they had a astral projection experience in there past life and it's stored in the sub-conscious mind without them being aware of the experience? Which is why they don't want to do it because there is "something" that is not "right". There is a bunch of possibilities.
#75
Over the last couple of days I have been doing the same exercise every-night before bed.

Wait till 1-2 O-clock in the morning.
Feeling tired
body is nice and relaxed
Now, Even though I have not had a successful out of body experience, I believe intent is most crucial step. You're telling yourself what is going to happen. Without the intent how on earth are you going to have one? But that is just me, I believe everyone has there way. My mind set's that goal and when The chance is golden, I start to get symptoms for having an OBE. Because Of my Intent. I maybe wrong, I maybe right. Just a heads up that's all.

It is a simply exercise. Though, I would say it is quite hard for people who have hard time trying to not be aware of there physical body. somewhat. Don't worry about your physical body, for me it's all about getting my body into a deep relaxation state which then starts to take the feeling off the  that is where I can then actually start to have an OBE.

Have a Go My way. last night it took like 15-30 minutes. Give it a go, It might work for you.