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It might just be that temperance is the answer. If one is unable to focus on phasing, is it because of the indulgence in other stimulus in regular life? If one could become sober, one could focus, and then the positive aspects of a dopamine disorder can be harnessed, the motivation to achieve.

So in other words, dopamine receptor upregulation. I've kind of tried that but to have a noticeable impact you'd have to quit all high dopamine activities which isn't really an option. An alternative is to use a dopamine reuptake inhibitor such as methylphenidate which I've started taking today, will be interesting to see how it affect my meditation ability. I'm only guessing but I think meditation could result in upregulation as the brain would eventually adapt to the low level of stimulus, however for me, so far meditation has only resulted in my mind coming up with ways to stimulate itself.

I have always felt that my access to conscious projection is deliberately limited because the experience is too addictive for me.

I've had this feeling too. One would think that after all those attempts something would've happened even if by accident but no. All I got was some LDs which I can't choose to have and happen from luck. Almost like having the ability to project at will suppressed. The scary part is that this kind of makes sense as I definitely would be addicted. However, Tom Campbell disagrees with this so I don't know what to think.

Thanks Kree for adding some insight into ADHD. For some I do believe it is a label, for others simply a fact of life. Part of what you said resonates with me,

"if I'm talking to someone about a low interest topic I will have internal dialogue with myself about something more interesting, this causes me to miss out on what they say and it's not something I do on purpose."

Totally get you on that. So here is an idea that might help but it's only an idea. It's worked for me so it might work for you. You have more options than just visualization. You said it here,

"Most of the time I'd just start having conversations with dream characters about how I'm supposed to be meditating right now."

That's it, that's your ticket or at least give it a try. Focus on an interesting conversation, doesn't matter if it makes sense and you don't need to visualize anything. Use your other senses, in this case hearing. If visuals do come it's okay.

Hope this makes sense and helps.

Thanks, that actually does help, haven't thought of that. I'll try it, hopefully the drowsiness won't affect it too much.

I'm 110% with Phildan on this... ADHD doesn't exist.  It's an excuse for big pharma to sell you medication and make BILLIONS of $$$.
First, stop identifying yourself with ADHD... you'll NEVER get past it unless you do this.  Second, focus yourself when you're working on tasks.

"BUT I CAN'T FOCUS!" people say...

BS... you can, you CHOOSE not to.  Stop TRYING to focus, and FOCUS!!  

My god, humanity has fallen so far...

wow, that might be the one thing I disagree with you on. I think of it like this, some people have minds which are organised or low entropy, such people are good at logic, math and getting stuff done, and some people have less organised minds which is useful for getting lots of ideas and being creative, it's a spectrum, someone diagnosed with adhd is just someone whose mind is so unorganized that it negatively impacts life.

People who say it's not real think so because everyone has issues focusing sometimes. adhd isn't an issue about focusing, that's just one of the symptoms. It's a chronic shortage of dopamine which causes people to seek out stimulation all the time, this often comes out in behavior such as fidgeting, non stop talking, desire to run or climb, walking in circles. If something doesn't offer enough dopamine another source will be looked for, for example, if I'm talking to someone about a low interest topic I will have internal dialogue with myself about something more interesting, this causes me to miss out on what they say and it's not something I do on purpose. Most movies don't provide enough stimulus so I have to take breaks to listen to music. Reading text longer than a few sentences is difficult as that's not a very stimulating activity, I've even had to reread your comment maybe 6 times. My mind works significantly better while I'm walking in a circle, that's not normal, but the added stimulus from motion provides me with a bit more dopamine which makes me closer to normal.

If autism wasn't as obvious to other people, you wouldn't believe it either. "Stop TRYING to be normal, and be normal!!"
There's so much research on this, there are physical brain differences which can be seen on brain scans.

BS... you can, you CHOOSE not to.  Stop TRYING to focus, and FOCUS!!  

Literally, my eyes are forcing shut and I feel like I'm falling asleep within 1 minute, and that's as good as it gets. Most of the time I'd just start having conversations with dream characters about how I'm supposed to be meditating right now.

Our minds wander when we are bored that's totally natural and happens to those without the label too.

You say you can't focus on something that is not stimulating. Wrong focus. Focus on whatever takes you away.

Then focusing on the breath, a mantra, sounds, blackness in the eyelids, etc. are the wrong focus.
All that's left is visualization, but so much effort is required just to visualize and think of what to visualize. I've tried it many times for as long as an hour. Kind of hard to relax into it with all that effort.
A simple visualization of just free-falling (I think szaxx mentioned it) would seem ideal but constantly imagining the sensation also gets tiring and the monotony makes it boring, and that's more of a phasing technique than a meditation.
Damn, out of options.

I've been trying to phase for about 5 years with no success, only a few LDs. I think the reason is because I have adhd and it feels like I'll never be able to phase because of it. I used to be obsessed with it but have almost given up as I can't focus on something that isn't stimulating. I mean, even video games and movies aren't stimulating enough for me anymore so how can I be content with focusing on the breath?

Wondering if it's even possible with the condition.

I've felt it a few times, best feeling ever. I usually get it when I meet someone in a dream or am in another world in a dream which is just so amazing that I couldn't be happier. I've also gotten a similar feeling from going to sleep while on lsd, throughout the whole night I can feel that feeling.

Thanks for the replies guys, I just tried daydreaming and visualizing whatever came to mind while seated without doing any relaxation, about 10 minutes in I felt like I'm suddenly going into unconsciousness and snapped back and started breathing heavier, I'm wondering if this was just me starting to sleep or if this is what phasing feels like assuming you manage to keep the focus on the NP. Also, even though I felt like a had a good focus on the NP I was still having thoughts about random things not related to my visualization which feels like it's taking away focus from the goal, is it okay to be aware of the physical and be thinking about it while daydreaming and it's just a matter of time until you phase or is it necessary to have 100% of the focus in the NP?

Actually you are un-focusing. Have you ever been doing something so boring you don't need to think about it? After a while you start day-dreaming and usually you aren't aware you were day-dreaming till you snap out of it.

If you have then that was phasing. So if you have done that then you can consciously phase. What you need to do now is learn to maintain your awareness while in that state. If you have not ever done this then go set a really boring yet simple task for yourself.

That sounds like a really good idea but whenever I'm daydreaming, I'm not really seeing anything, I'm mostly just zoned out or lost in my thoughts. Maybe It's it's because visualizing takes too much effort or it's some kind of a mechanism I have so I don't stop seeing what's in front of me as that could cause problems, but I only see things if I'm actively visualizing something or am very tired, maybe tiredness lowers my guard and allows me to let go of this. Also, maybe seeing isn't mandatory, if I could somehow become engaged in my thoughts or music.

You can phase in any position even while standing doing menial tasks. As a matter of fact doing a repetitive task that does not need your brain engaged is an excellent way to focus. I can do it while washing a boat load of dishes.

It's possible if you're already good at focusing, but is it not easier to phase (especially for beginners) by relaxing everything there is to relax first? Or does relaxing not matter because that's not something you think about?

I think most people lie on their back or sit reclined but I have a problem with this, on the back, if I completely relax my tongue i experience discomfort as the airway becomes obstructed. Reclined, letting my head fall forward eventually hurts me neck and causes my teeth to touch which is distracting. Letting my head fall back while seated is also problematic as when I eventually need to swallow saliva I will have to tilt my head forward a bit. Yet this is how everyone seems to do it. The only position I can sleep in is on the front, but for some reason this I never get very far in this position nor do I hear of others' success in it.

primary limiting mechanic is rate of brain wave change

Does this mean binaural beats would be the solution?