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Dino do I sense some irony? [|)]

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TruthSeeker

What's all this about danger and doom? Does not make any sense really at all! Why would God do all of this that is being said about slavery and all?
Oh and Mirador: What tragic result is that?
A bit confused [|)]

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TruthSeeker

Thanks for sharing this wonderful experience with us Jason.[]

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TruthSeeker

I suggest you read Astral Dynamics. It has what is a basic understanding, which is not such a bad thing to have

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TruthSeeker

I have experienced the same thing Psi, but I do not know what they are. Perhaps they are some ego, or perhaps they are astral beings. However when it comes to getting rid of them, one thing has helped tremendously. Every time before I try having and OBE, I ask God and all good creatures of love for help. I also create a shield around me, which I blow around the whole house. This shield has a purpose of blocking "entities who wish me, or my family any harm", and to cast out those who allready are inside it. I do not believe fully in all these things. To me, negs with a reason or personality(whatever degree) is far beyond what I have learnt here on earth, so I stay sceptic. But however as I said: It works [|)]

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TruthSeeker

Exellent Frank, exellent![]

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TruthSeeker

I see we can not get any further in this discussion, so I will retire[|)]
What you are saying is exactly what I am saying, or at least what I meant to say. We have the same opinion about it, only that we draw two seperate conclusions in words. Read my mind, and you will understand waht I am saying[].

Take care everyone,
TruthSeeker

If only everybody could see things as you do beav31is, the world would be a kinder place.[]

Have a nice afternoon everyone!
TruthSeeker

Hello
We insist dreams are different because they are. An OBE is an OBE, a dream is a dream. They exist on different "frequencies"/or "wavelengths". A dream is created by the subconcious, or by the conscious, depending on the degree og lucidity. An OBE however is something different. This is because an OBE is more real, by real I mean the fact that multiple persons can experience the same thing, much like we do here in the physical.
Just to note: People have reported "entering" another persons dreams, hence experiencing the same as the dreamer. This does not mean it is "real", only that the projector has successfully entered the dreamers thoughts, feelings etc. Much like I can play the same computer-game as everyone, without making it "real".

However just to make it clear. I am not fully a believer on this theory. Dreams may very well be "real", but at this time I, and lots of others believe the mentioned thoery makes more sense. To outline: I am not a believer, just a TruthSeeker like the great Sir Francis Bacon. [|)]

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TruthSeeker

"Read not to contradict and confute, no to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider." - Sir Francis Bacon

Hello everyone!
I just wanted to bring a bit of seriousness into this thread[]
We are afraid of the unknown, allways will be while still human. It's the thing that keeps us alive, and the thing that keeps us from harm. We should not fear fears, embrace them and take it as a gift. I.E a person who tries to AP and is afraid of demons taking over his body, will most likely not project, while this fear is still alive. If a person has fears, he will not be able to function wery well in the astral world, as he might be alone and attacked by a malicious being. This incident could make him mentally ill, hence harming him. Embrace the fears, work them out, solve them. It is your friend and it keeps you from harm.
When it comes to the aliens: Solve the fear for them, the unknown. Certainly I would be afraid of an elephant if I was one in my back yard, eating my price-roses[|)]

And then you lads should probably change your attitude towards the aliens. God\Him\the Creator created them, and they have a purpose. Do not fear them or hate them, when you do not know them. Act the way you know deep inside is right. If everyone could change their attitude towards them, maybe they would make themselves publically known, something we most probably would benefit greatly from. I pity us for being so mean towards both them and us. Be smart. Do not let the aliens become what we made of the blacks, we know that was wrong, and so is this..

Well this was quite serious wasn't it?[|)]

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TruthSeeker

Hello everyone!

-Thomas00
I have been trying, more or less active half a year I suppose. Thant means I have only tried a few times, but read a lot, and did mediation-practices etc.
Just a hint for you: Do not give up! Pick a night where you try extremely hard! Stay up all night trying if neccessary! [|)]

Kenny
What do you mean by "pull me out too", I have not had any other requests have I? [:I]
Take care!

Thanks for all the new replies everyone![]

Oh and just so you know: I will use it carefully and with wisdom(!) []

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TruthSeeker

Hello lads!

In reply to Tao's question: This is a hard question to answer really. I have never deliberately induced the vibrations. However when I first got them my "first time"(?), I kind of rememered everything, starting at the feeling of getting "ballooned" to the vibrations and sound. I do not know why exactly. This si the best answer I can give you at this time.

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TruthSeeker

"The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step."- Lao Tzu

Hello everyone!
Thanks for the huge response to my "little" experience! It really warms my little newly found astral heart! []

In reply to the questions asked:
-Tisha
When I moved my rtz-body straight after exit I felt like moving my physical body, only i did not strain a single muscle. I moved with ease and it most certainly did not hurt [^]
However if you are referring to the wake-up process, I did have serious problems moving my physical body. It would not respond, and when I finally managed to move my arm it was extremely heavy! No feeling of pain though. Hope this answeres the question!

-Lasher
Well this requires a bit of a long answer. Last weekend I read Astral Dynamics(by RB, offcourse). This was a very informative and exiting book, and it gave me a lot of new ideas and sure gave me quite a much stronger "I want to do this!"-feeling. What I did different this time was this: During the day I took a nap(a thing I normally don't do) and I stayed up very late(watching a movie). All the relaxing during the day made my body easily relaxed as well as I felt a bit tired, allthough I could stay awake without straining myself. Now here comes the part that I think really made the difference: I usually try untill I get really "fed up", then I turn around and go to sleep. However this time I did not give up. I tried so hard so long that I wanted to give up several times, but I said to myself "No way, come hell or high water..I WILL PROJECT!!" I kept trying and trying to a point where I think I just "stopped thinking"(This has been added after I originally posted:"Often I'll experience a little lapse in consciousness immediately prior to the vibrational state" Frank said this in a thread I just read, and that could explain why I am not sure what I did just before the vibrations kicked in). I was just lying there when the huge vibrations came rushing over me(I must say once more: It was awesome!).
And then there is the possability that I might have projected before, but forgot upon returning to my body(this could explain why I remembered the "balloon-feeling"). This is explained in Astral Dynamics(shadow-memory, failed memory download).
I hope this should answer this question as well.

Thanks for the kind congratulations again, it really means something to me! [|)]

Sincerely,
TruthSeeker

"The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step."- Lao Tzu

I get this feeling every time I try reaching focus 10(body asleep, mind awake). It might be the etheric body moving around, but I'm not sure. But I projected consciously for the first time this morning(!!!), and I found that the spinning was pretty seperate from the projection-process. I suggest you read my post at the "experiences" forum-header. There you will see what I mean, as I did feel the spinning sensations just after going to bed and trying to induce focus 10.

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TruthSeeker

"Yes, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."   (Psalms 23:4)

Well heres some of my experiences when it comes to time:

I have only had one concious projection that I remember(and this was this morning!) While trying to get "out", time went really slow. I had put my alarm on one hour, but when I got back in my physical body, thee still was about half an hour before the alarm went off. I was trying for AGES it seemed, but I guess my alarm-clock knows [|)]

When it comes to dreams the same thing basicly happens. I go for a nap and I enter this really long dream. A whole day can pass by within this dream, feeling like it actually does. However when I wake up, only a couple of hours have gone by! I guess my brain must be working INCREDIBLY fast, or there is more to us than our brain[:O]

Well thats all I can contribute with [:I]

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TruthSeeker

"Yes, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."   (Psalms 23:4)

Hello Nay,

Is the goal of your meditation(if I may call it that) to project?
I have spent some time trying things out now, and today(erhm it was rather late..about 2 o'clock in the morning []) I had my first successful projection!

What I did was just going to sleep, but remaining awake(that is roughly what I did I think, but you can read more about it in the "experiences" forum-header.). This was very effective and I have now "drastically" changed from doing meditation(that is meditatin with a goal of projecting) to just "falling asleep". I believe the trick is to just keep trying no matter how badly you just want to give up and fall asleep. I have not tried this anymore but that one successful time, but tonight I will give it another go. I will let you know what happens[:I]

Hope this is helpful in some way or another, cause I just can't stop talking about(it was so GREAT!)it, so I hope someone can benefit from my euphoria [|)]

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TruthSeeker

Thank you for your kind reply Frank. Thank you for being here and posting your posts, it has helped me a lot![]
And thank you for the encouraging words! []

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TruthSeeker

"Yes, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."   (Psalms 23:4)

Hello everyone!

Sorry for my late participation in this matter, but I have had a small vacation up in the Norwegian mountains at my cabin.

Well, back to the subject to be discussed. I would really like to participate in this project.  It is a great idea I have had for a long time, but just seemed to me like to big of a task to be done. Now that I see the response to the idea, I feel quite optimistic []

The idea of this project is simple and is very much likely "do-able". Allthough there are some obstacles we must remember:

-How we are supposed to get there:
Phasing is one way, entering it through a visual picture(RB's way of "VRP"). One thing that we must remember is that the VRP is a pretty easy bethod as long as we "enter" the picture properly.
Bet this is a problem of those who visualize to get themselves there: It is very hard to vividly visualize a picture in its enirety. If you do get there by visualization it might be that you are the only one there, as your subconcious filled the "holes" left of your memory of the picture. Other times the visualiser might offcourse "get lucky" and enter the actual place. However this gives a lot of "if"s.
One way of trying to project there is by a symbol, a symbol that we create without allowing it to be influenced by other symbols. This makes a special thing to focus on, as well as it is easy to visualize. For the projector going there "VRP" the symbol must be clearly shown at the picture. This offcourse remains to be proven and tested, but it is an idea/theory at least.

When it comes to the location: Very experienced projectors say that it takes time(or a high quantity of will/"willers") before a "thought" is properly manifested "solidely" in the astral. There is one way of solving this problem that I can thing of. Those who are experienced here should "prepare" the location: Travelling there, creating, manifesting and making all the preparations for the less experienced to follow when the location is more or less "solid". As things start to manifest, others should join in and think of a picture that has been created of the location.

The "creators" can create whatever they like, no matter how much detail they "imprint". The thing that matters is that they are a ble to manifest it properly.

Just my early ideas about this project.

P.S We should do a little research about the hazards that might occur(like mentioned earlier). HOWEVER I believe there are no hazards, only hazards that are "created" by malicious projectors or projectors that does not know any better and imprints their unsecurity and fears upon others. Just an opinion that most surely can be wrong as I do not possess quite enough information on the subject.

Sicerely,
TruthSeeker

Thanks a lot for your kind advises! I have actually become a lot better these last days..
Thanks again!

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TruthSeeker

Where is this group effort thread?
And when it comes to feeling only some parts have loosened, there are several persons who has experienced this. People explain how a part is "stuck", mostly the head regian. They have to "rip" it out of the physical. However this does not sound like the thing you are experiencing.
I have a similar thing, as only my finger raises(feels like the physical counterpart, and I can feel it slam back down again). Just today both my legs raised, and every now and then, my body seemed to be taking all sorts of strange positions(like being in a mixmaster I guess[]) I did not get a chance to get out, because my dog came bursting into my bed(he really does not want me to leave[])

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TruthSeeker

"The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step."- Lao Tzu

I did not quite get the reason for this being impossible, as I have indeed heard of such experiments before. As an example, the gnostic movement has done this kind of research before, and they came out positive. This experiment was made like this: Students were in a room, and a wall/cover was placed there as well. Behind this wall/cover a thing they were to read(do not remember what they were supposed to find). Students projected there and came back with positive results, exact results. The same thing happened when they put this note in the next room, adn the students projected there. What makes this a fraud?
If you would care to explain a bit further I would be MOST thankful.

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TruthSeeker

"The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step."- Lao Tzu

Well here is my story about telling people around me:

Friends: I have only one friend that is open-minded enough to believe in something like astral projection, mataphysics, psionics etc. This friend I can share everything with and he shares everything with me. This really helps! I have lots of other friends, but I have never told them my or my friends interest in the "supernatural"(never did like that word). My advise is to tell the fiend you know can handle it, tell it to a friend you know very well.

Family: I have not told anyone in my family. My mother knows something is "strange" and I might haveto tell her and my father soon. My mother has allthough the few times she has caught me meditating or phasing, made jokes about me meditating. My brother I have not yet told, as he seems to be very bound to the physical world, just as my parents are. I plan to tell my family one day, when I have gathered enough skills to prove it to them. I feel like I owe them that much, or at least I think it would be the right thing to do.

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TruthSeeker

"Yes, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."   (Psalms 23:4)

As a small hint when it comes to Hemi-Sync "tapes":
They are spread all over the net as ".mp3". I find them by using a download-client called Kazaa(download it at www.kazaa.com). This program is easy to use, as you search for "hemi-sync" and all "tapes" are shown. Download what you want for free. This is not illegal, as long as you use them for own practise only.

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TruthSeeer
"Yes, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."   (Psalms 23:4)

Could anyone explain me what WILD and MILD is? Some techniques I could try? Been trying all sorts of hard methods to start having lucid dreams, getting nowhere.
I would really appretiate it!

Thanks,
TruthSeeker

Pod3 explain: "it may have nothing to do with the plant at all". Are you referring to the color I see?
When I look at the same green plant in front of some dark background no aura is shown. To me it seems like the only thing I am seeing(color BEHIND,around the object manifested on the background, not eh object) is some weird interpretation done by my brain. Like the red bokk is somehow doing something with my brain/eyes that makes one of them, or both crate some sort of illusion? Mabe I just have a really bad eyesight