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yes i agree, it is another excellent choice. i hope to someday be there myself. keep up the good work adrian.

welcome back,

    i was gone awhile myself.i look forward to seeing your posts. they are always insightful.

cool..........thanks again frank.

i am sure there is some footage somewhere but i am not sure where. i have never heard of anyone being harmed in any way during an obe and i have read many, many accounts of this. robert monroe has started a scientific institute on the subject and others related to this. you might find some footage there. but i think it would be pretty boring as the person would just look like they are sleeping. it might be more interesting to see footage of scientific measuring devices during an obe, but thats just my opinion.

hey clandestino............nope thats not me......nick found a super cool free avatar website and i have been going a little nuts downloading things from there. if your interested go into astral chat and you will see nicks post.  


and besides all that, how did you know i have issues?[]lol

im looking forward to a lot of fun times with learning more of thje subjects i have questions abnout.

i understand that no leaf clover but i think that you are also too young to understand certain aspects of life. dont take offense at that, its just one has to experience things first hand to be able to talk about them. for example the subject of having kids. someone of your age cannot undrstand certain complexities of being a parent.

before i start offending all sorts of people here, i dont think it hurts to feed her sense of self need. i would do it for others as well. everyone wants to be a part of something and nobody likes being shunned. i think we should all use our maturity and deal with people on their respective levels.

with spirit gurl i will be a little more understanding.
with you or other teen guys i can be a little harsh or jokey.
with tisha i can be a little flirty.(I love her picture.)
with the guys that seem harsh in most of their posts i will be harsh back at them.

the point is give each their own consideration. so she is looking for a little attention. arent we all at some point?   i know i do.

and no offense is meant to any one here. i am starting to think of everyone her as a new group of friends. i couldnt take advice from people i didnt respect in some way or other.

like frank.......the man always has helpful input for everyone new and old on this site. i havent read everything ,but i had a topic he gave really good advice for.
then i stumbled upon in a different area the same issue i brought up before and was answeredby frank in an extremely helpful and informative way.
frank doesnot take offence that he is teaching the same things to peo[pleover different time spans, and he doesnt tire out with his helpful nature

you are entering a thought controlled realm.  if you keep thinking and focusing on big scary things......you can be sure to run into them.so try to work on your focus of other things.

heh heh.........it sounds funny but i am going to try it. thanks. at the least it will give me a good laugh.

dino


i also want and need some help from the guides. i have never received help yet even though i call for them. i am beginning to suspect they are some part of my own consciousness and i wont see him or them until i get over some other issues i have. what those are i dont know.sorry i couldnt help more.

and by the way.....you might want to lay off the capitals. i got chewed out for this before. some of the others dont seem to like that very much. sorry.

imogen


i wish i could help you there but i have never experienced pain. and i wear jewelery. i think someone else will input soon so dont give up the question yet.

spirit girl

 i am sorry for the way others have treated you here. i love this site as it helps answer many of my questions. there are a lot of rude people out there who dont realize that their words are hurting. i would assume they are trying to be funny or they are trying to look cool to the others on here with their witty remarks. i for one wish you would stay as i have read many of your questions and have received some of the answers i was looking for myself. i think you are an extremely intelligent young girl but you need to grow thicker skin so the bad things said here will just bounce off you. i am also new and have many questions that are ignored. but i dont think people are being mean, i just think we are going over areas already covered by other peoples questions before we got here. i have noticed some people dont like to repeat themselves and they make fun of us for being new to these kinds of things. just ignore them as some of them are just immature young guys themselves. and if you havent noticed most of them like to think they already have all of lifes answers. what fools. i am 33 and i am just beginning to see that with as much knoweledge that i have accumulated up til now, i dont know crap. all i do know is that i dont know.

so as far as i am concerned, we are a minority that believe the way we do here at this website and others like this. we need to stick together and help each other out. there are enough people out there that think we are all nuts or are dabbling in satanic stuff. we all should be dissappointed that you are leaving as there will be one less of us for support.

to everyone else reading this, remember that you were young once too. how did you like being ignored or made to feel like your opinions meant nothing because of your age? lets give spirit girl our support.

hello finn


im fairly new myself and i feel like i found just the right place for the weird things going on in my own life. people here are great and extremely helpful. i doubt you will have a question that isnt covered here somewhere. but again hello and nice to meet you.

and by the way tisha........you have probably already seen it but there is a good topic under astral chat for the new avatar thing.


not that i am complaining about the one you have.........please by all means keep up the good work.

adrian i think those are great ideas. and i had the same thought about the vibrations as tisha but since im a NEWBIE, i didnt think my input would be valued. we all see what squeek thinks of us.lol.

i have also seen a couple of minor subject ideas about group efforts. maybe a forum dedicated to this kind of thing would help people get coordinated together.

man i have been looking for a site like that since i started here. those were just about the coolest things i have seen yet............thanks a bunch.

and again well done no leaf clover. i think i am going to print that out and start carrying it around with me to wake people up.

no leaf clover...........way to go! that was extremely impressive and well researched. yes in some instances you were taking some things out of context but you do apparently know your subject matter. []

and to timmerdogg, yes it is understandable to stand up for what you believe in, but at the same time use your intelligence. to just blindly follow something is foolish. i am a christian also and was where you are at a few years ago. the contradictions in the bible affected me greatly and i started to research the subjects. i talked to various religions pastors, i read numerous books on the histories of the periods and archeological findings, looked into the dead sea scrolls, etc. and it has all led me to the here and now that shows me nobody, and i mean nobody has any significant answers and or proof about the bibles claims. everything came down to sombodys opinion and personal strength of belief. it is just too hard to put my faith in a god that puts us here and then tells us no to everything. we cant do this, we cant do that, we cant indulge ourselves in anything or it is being unspiritual. which means automatic sin. well screw that. we are fallable and sinful.(by the great love of god)  we are blamed not only for our own sins but for the sins of our fathers. what kind of crappy deal is that? its like He is making sure that we are going to be sinful for something and have no choice but to turn to him for forgiveness. well what about us forgiving Him? picking a certain race of people over others, letting our little children get cancer or even kidnapped ands raped and killed by some depraved sicko, and other atrocities like those. how about a life filled with the worship and love and devotion to god and then you get to spend your last years on this earth while your body breaks down, you cant remember any of your loved ones, you are crapping all over yourself, and you cant even have the dignity of enjoying your retirement years because all your money is going to the upkeep of yourself so you dont croak. where is this loving god that i keep hearing about? because i sure dont see him! i see this big neutral being that cares about as much for me as he does the slime slug that lives at the bottom of the ocean.

ok i do agree that we are not traveling at the speed of light. but we are cruising pretty fast.

hello tao,

   i am not sure if the vibrations are needed to have an obe or not. all i do know is that when you do get them there will be no mistaking it. from what i have been reading from our friends on here, most beginners have intense vibrations. mine personally feel like i am being electrocuted. THEY ARE INTENSE. for the first 10 - 20 times i really thought i was dying. but after this happening many times and i was still alive i just started to ignore them as some weird dream. but after i stumbled upon books about astral traveling and reading about these sensations with so many other people and sources, i started to delve into the world of astral projection. and thus here i am today. so good luck and happy projecting.

cool, thanks lapsilap

2880..........come on........like this matters to us.

it wont even matter to my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandkids.

wait........i think i put one too many greats in there.

hello GTP and welcome.

i love to fly while lucid also. actually im kind of stuck flying, as whenever i go lucid, its all i can seem to want to do.

anyway, glad to meet ya and hope to read more from you soon.

if i ever get there i will use energy weapons. lasers out of my eyes. darts out of each hand. both hands together would be a laser cannon.