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#51
I think the records he is talking about, are the records of the Cosmos, that are all imprinted in some kind of a Spiritual library in one of the Spiritual realms.  The records contain everything that has happened concerning anyone or anything from the point of creation to the present.  Anyone else have any thoughts on this that they can add.
#52
Hi everyone

    Maybe we all should start some kind of a fund, and send money to Robert or Nita to build and experiment with certain kinds of devices that can remove an attached neg from someone.  In other words not to many people are really involved in this field or trying to build a device that specifically removes "negs".  Maybe we should donate money to Nita or Robert for this very specific purpose so they can conduct research.  And when they need a research person to try the device on, we should have no problem finding someone on this forum who is trying to get free from an attached neg.  The person would probably volunteer, if there were no other people Robert or Nita could use where they are located.  Just a thought.  But I think if an affordable device is going to come into existence that works specifically for that purpose, even against strong negs, it may be up to us to build it, as we are few of the people who are even interested in such a thing or device.
#53
Welcome to Healing discussions! / Q-link
July 01, 2003, 15:58:04
Hi everyone

  I think the reason that many of these technologies are not real well known is because right now the world is real slow when it comes to catching up on the reality of the Spiritual realm.  Most doctors don't even believe there is a spiritual realm, let alone any type of entities in it.  Science and learning has affected a lot of their egos where they think it's nonsense that something exists to which they have not already known about themselves.

That is why any devices that in some way may work to help us on the spiritual level or on an energy type level is not looked into or considered by most doctors or researchers in many fields.

However, we are only in the year 2003.  As we make more advances, pretty soon it will be impossible for the so-called experts to ignore the realities of the spiritual realm and other life-forms, and at that time in the future the world will probably be flooded with all types of the devices you all have mentioned on this site.
#54
Hi Inguma

    So far I have only learned of one projecting technique.  I lie down and allow my body to go to sleep while barely keeping my mind awake.  Eventually my body becomes where I can't move it even though I'm still awake.  I also hear like some very clear vibrational humming noise as I'm close to my astral body being able to lift out of my physical body.  I then can usually either just sit up in my astral body and walk out of the physical body, or I will find myself floating horizontal above my physical body with my human mind then setting my astral body upright so that it can then move around.

I'm not really aware of any kind of projection techniqes besides that, but would be interested in knowing about other ways.  I know some people on this web page have been using some kind of music or devices to help projecting, but I don't know much about those devices or what they are all called.

Can you explain your technique up above a little bit better.
#55
First off, I didn't send that deranged and unbalanced woman above that message.  But it sounds like the person who did send it was probably right on track.  And in interpreting the message above it doesn't sound like anyone's stalking her, it sounds like the person whoever wrote it is telling her that if there is a God, that he hopes God gives her everything that she deserves.  I think the person is right on track there to.  Especially if he is someone that might have received a message from her like I did for no justifiable reason at all, and espectially if the person had never said anything about her at all.  Also if the person that sent her the message happened to recieve anykind of message like I received from her on that thread you closed, it actually sounds like that guy who sent her that message went light on her, compared to her messages.

Secondly if anyone needs to be kicked off the forum it needs to be goingslow, silva, alchimiste, and Nay.  These people enjoy running new members off the forum.  They tried to run Spirit gurl off the forum, along with quite a few others.  Everyone of them started something with Spirit gurl if you go back and look at the posts.

Look at the message that Nay said before you closed out that thread, and she said all that stuff to me, without me even ever saying one thing against her.  If anything, she is the one that is posting abusive messages, and she should be kicked off the site, or at least goingslow or alchimiste as those 2 are the starters of everything from the beginning.  If you look at my original posts on this forum, it was all about finding things that could help people who were being attacked by "negs".  That's when the pranksters Alchimiste and goingslow started trying to start things.

I would also like to ask, based upon that lovely message that Nay posted on that thread that you closed.  Could you also insure that the deranged woman cannot send me any e-mails.
#56
Hi ides315


    I liked the idea you mentioned about the ionizer.  However I don't agree with you concerning the comments of telling someone that is fighting a "neg" that they can't get free because they don't want to be.

Usually people will say that to someone in an unfortunate situation because their ego will not allow for the possibility that they were unable to help the person, and instead of seeing reality as it is and realizing they came upon a situation in which they couldn't help, they choose instead to try to put some kind of a guilt trip on the person who is fighting the "neg".  I feel that is both wrong and unethical to do.  Whether a person wants a neg off or not, there are certain techniques or substances that the "neg" cannot stand, and if someone applies those techniques or substances to that neg, it is going to leave whether the person wants it off or not.  So in other words, I think it is wrong to put a guilt trip on a person, because someones ego will not allow for the reality that they may not know everything about every situation.  

When a person sees that they are unable to help a person, they should just say to him, "I'm sorry I tried everything I know, but I'm unable to help you".  All I can do is refer you to some people who might know other techniques.

Now concerning your comment about other religions and philosophies and world views.  I've been studying the different world views and religions in the world for the past 18 years.  That area is one of my strong points.  I agree with you people would be more balanced if they studied all the different major religions.  They would even be further balanced if they studied the different cultures throughout the World, so that they are not restricted by just their American view.

I would be interested though in knowing any other information you have about ionizers or other type electrical devices that might be used as countermeasures against "negs".
#57
I understand what Julia was trying to say, and I see the points you are trying to make also, but I disagree with both of you in a few areas.  

Sometimes lifestyle might have been the cause of the possession, but many times lifestyle wasn't.  Many times it was just the unfortunate circumstance of being in a sometimes dangerous world, and being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Now concerning lifestyle in the sense that you and Julia are trying to use it.  I agree that most of the time lifestyle is one of the best defenses against getting attacked by negs.  But even someone with a good lifestyle could find themselves victim to being sometime in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Once a Neg is attached to someone, there are some types that the person can not remove themselves.  That is why you saw Jesus going around setting a lot of people free when he walked the earth.  Remember the man Legion that he set free.  No matter what that man did, he would not have been able to get free by himself.  Sometimes the situation may be where a person might eventually be able to find a way to detach a neg by themselves, sometimes the situtation is that they will have to hope they encounter someone who has knowledge for removal of "negs" and can help them get it off.

Hopefully people will continue to do a lot of research in developing techniques, approaches, and devices for neg removal.
#58
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / ,
June 30, 2003, 15:55:46
I am only as much as a contemporary voice as you or any other human being on this planet.  I would be careful about letting people's contemporary voices influence you.  Because there are others contemporary voices, and if you lived by the rule of letting contemporary voices influence you, you might choose to become a satanist.

I don't let others contemporary voices influence me, I look at all the different vehicles in the world, analyze them and make up my own mind on whether there is a God or not.  I have chosen to believe there is a God, and I have also chosen to believe in him.
#59
Hi saliva, I mean silva

    Have you ever heard the saying, "practice what you preach" you stupid grump.  But you are not your everyday "B's", as I can tell by your stupid butt comment, you are one of those engineer educated types.  You know how to build a real "B".  I bet you have a lot of guys calling you by that name in real life.  Do you know how I know that.  I know you think I'm a mind reader, and you are saying to yourself how did he know that.  I know that because only a ill mannered female would jump onto a forum site, and something like that be the first words out of her "nasty repulsive mouth".  It kind of reminds me of the "neg" that Kolanek encountered. Find the site authored by him, and see if that female matches your description.

So the question is does a person have the right to use "grump" on this forum, if another person is using words like "idiot" and "stupid".  I think they do because only a grump would go around starting things with somebody for no reason at all.  And on this forum there are both male bitches and female bitches.  I would classify them in the same category as Kolanek's "neg" that he encountered.

You last name shouldn't have been "dott" it should have been "duh".  You need to get over acting like a "you know what" not only in real life, but on the forums to.  The "you know what's" you can always recognize because they are real cold type females.  That gave you away instantly when you let everyone know that you were from Alaska.

There may not be alot of guys out there running dog sleds that you get an opportunity to hook up with, but don't try to take it out on us.  I know where you got the saying "over all idiot".  You got it out of anger when every time you tried to stop one of those dog sledder's they ignored you and scorned you in a way, your self-defensive reply to that was to call them "over all idiots".  If that will help your self-esteem, as your self defense mechanism, then do what you have to do to keep yourself out of the gutter.  

But in summary try to live by what you preach, get over it when someone gives you constructive criticism, and try to refrain from your self-defense mechanism stupid butt comments, and then you probably won't have a problem with anyone on these forums, if that was possible.  The above is my 3 cents worth.  But if you go around saying the stuff like you said above to some people, some of the things I have said to you are going to be light compared to some of the things certain others may say to you.

Have a good day

Bye
#60
Hi Kalonek

    I believe when you are astral projecting, you know it beyond all doubts.  If you have any doubts at all as to whether you were astral projecting or not, then you probably weren't. In that case it was probably just a dream or lucid dream.

    However, if you prepared for the OBE state like you always did, and you know that it was a consciousness out of the body experience, then most likely you encountered some kind of "neg" entity.

    I'm suprised though that you followed it into the other room knowing that it had a dark presence to it.  Maybe it wanted to attack you but it knew if you saw what it looked like before it got close to you that you would quickly escape back into your body.  But by hiding behind a curtain it drew on your curiosity so that when you pulled back that curtain, it was to late, you were in range for an attack.

    In the future I wouldn't pull back any curtains if you know or believe some dark presence has run behind it before you had a good chance to get a look at it.

People need to come up with some good countermeasures or techniques a person can use in the astral realm when encountering a "neg" to possibly avoid any spiritual body to spiritual body fighting.  Right now one of the best techniques would be just to shake you spirit mind connection real hard as to quickly put you back in your physical body again.

Maybe one of these days it will be safe in the astral realm for humans to project all the time.  However I believe that is in the far distant future.
#61
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / ,
June 29, 2003, 15:04:25
Hi Frank

    Imagine you're best friend's spirit leaving his body and entering your body, and into your spirit with you.  Do you think he could communicate with you spirit to spirit with thoughts in that situations since both of you occupied the same body.  You're situation would be a situation where 2 entites were occupying the same body.  You would be able to feel the other entity in your body and spirit with you, and you could also communicate with each other very easily, if you were open to each other and the double residency was mutual.  That is the kind of spirit mind to spirit mind communication that I'm talking about.

Now replace your best friend's being and entity with God's being and entity moving into you.  It would be more than a communication, it would be a relationship with the Creator, God.  How God would possibly do this I have mentioned in an earlier post.  I think you just misinterpreted what I was trying to say about the communication aspect.
#62
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / ,
June 29, 2003, 14:53:43
In the vehicle in the World called "Christianity" which in a way is still learning and growing in many ways as a vehicle with a lot of hang ups and certain habits that it needs to get rid of.  In such a vehicle they believe that God is a Trinity.  So in that vehicle, the philosophy of whether a father needs a son is totally different from the belief mentioned above from another.  In the Trinity the father needs the son, the son needs the father, and the Holy Spirit needs the father and the son, and the father and son need the Holy Spirit.  There are different belief systems out in the world. Hopefully one day we will find all the correct answers.  Until then all we can keep doing is keep analyzing, searching and looking for the answers.
#63
Hi Alpine9

    Do you know how the "neg" got on you in the first place.  Do you know how long it has been attached to you.  I've heard some people on the site say that kava kava can help weaken a "neg" that is attached to the person and give the person some relief.  It can't detach the "neg" but it's suppose to be able to weaken "negs" or activate certan centers in your mind that in a way kind of block the torment of the possession a little bit.

Keep in touch because I have a couple of friends of mine that I'm trying to help to, and I'm doing a lot of research to try to find counter measures against negs.  You can look at my profile and get my e-mail address.  Also under "Psychic self-defense" find the site that is authored by "neg removal5", the site mentions a number of techniques that still need to be explored.  I myself would like to know where there is a strong underground stream, like the type that helped Robert Bruce break free from that situation that he was in.  Please feel free to ask any questions on this topic site that you've drawn up, or by emailing me.

You are right it's very difficult to survive and try to make a living, while at the same time you are fighting a neg.  One of these days we will come up with some easy sure way techniques for detaching those son-of-a-bitches when they are messing with somebody.
#64
Welcome to Metaphysics! / anti Christ
June 28, 2003, 15:24:49
In reference to the Antichrist

    I believe their are entities in the Spiritual realm, who once existed with God and the other Holy Angels in a particular kind of home in the Spritual realm, created by God.  One day some of these Angels got the idea that they could take over the place because the place was a peaceful place and non-warlike, where entities who were mostly peaceful in nature just enjoyed life.  Well anyway some of these Angels got the big-head thinking we can take over these meek fun loving entities up her.  They probably were even stupid enough to think they could take over God.

    I believe these Angels made their moves, and war broke out suddenly, and the lines were drawn suddenly.  I believe the fallen angels (the ones who thought they could take over everything) we're kind of in shock when they saw and experienced that these other fun loving, Angels were actually capable of fighting not only at the same level of them but even possibly a higher level, because they generated their fighting power from love, not evil or ego.

In Summary the evil angels lost the battle, and retreated from trying to take over the heavens.  I feel that in their retreat while the battle was still raging a little bit, that they attacked mankind in a certain way and got mankind to sin, so that God with the Holy Angels had to find a way to redeem mankind back.  It was the fallen angels that started the things up in heaven, not mankind, and that is why God made a way for them back to him.

The evil angels who lost and have chosen not to repent or change their character is the Antichrist, and their leader in particluar is the antichrist.  The Spirit of that antichrist is going to find an ignorant stupid egotistical human somewhere in the world, and try to work it's evil through that person.  

But in the end, however it turns out or plays out, evil will lose.
#65
Hi Clandestino

    Yes I do, and so do millions of other people.
#66
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / ,
June 25, 2003, 23:32:56
Hi everyone

   I've been looking at how God exists in reality from a couple of angles.  I believe God is not growing in essence.  His present essence has always existed and always will exist. What is possibly growing with God is the number of worlds and cosmos he is continuing to create.  God needs something to occupy his time, and to express his love and his creative nature.  

So God is not growing in essence, but he is growing in the sense, that each time He creates another cosmos, that's one more cosmos that didn't exist before.  I believe God is capable of either contracting or expanding his essence.  He could expand his essence infinitely, or he could contract his essence if he wanted.  This is a great attribute of God, because it means whenever he creates a new cosmos, He can easily expand his essence to fill the entirety of the new cosmos he has created.  

I believe one of God's first goals and priorities after he has created new worlds and new offsprings is to set up some kind of vehicle in each of those worlds through which he can introduce himself to his offspring, and then with their permission enter into them in an entity fashion.  I believe he does this by duplicating his essence and then contracting his essence to fit into our bodily forms with our spirit.  There would then be two spirits occupying the same body, the human's spirit, and God's entity being, both in the same body together sharing love with each other and sharing life together.

So can you talk to God.  There are presently two way you can talk to God.  God's essence fills our entire cosmos, so if you just say something to him from anywhere you may be, he hears you, and he is also there, just like he is everywhere else in the entire cosmos.  The second way you can talk to God is if you are able to find the vehicle that he has set up in the world which he uses to personally try to introduce himself to each and every human being.  Once he introduces himself, and you give him permission to, he will duplicate himself from his essence in the cosmos, and contract his essence to the size of your bodily form and enter into you as an entity taking up residence in you.  If that ever happens to you, you can talk to God directly in your spirit, and he will talk back to you from within your spirit.  It would be direct spirit mind to spirit mind communication.

Can you talk to God, you better believe it!
#67
Hey KP

    You have researched some of the vehicles that are out in the world, and the vehicle that you have chosen to believe is a "thought" and "way of thinking" vehicle.  In that kind of a vehicle, it's possible, that a person may close himself off to another "vehicle" out in the world which says that God can come and live in your spirit with your permission.  And it would be a reality, not just a "thought" vehicle or a "way of thinking" vehicle.  You would have a Being inside of you who is actually God's Spirit, personality, and perfection of Being.

It's a "vehicle" which believes in the reality that two beings can live in the same body.  Just like you would know and be able to recognize and communicate with your best friend if his spirit entered into your body with your spirit, so is there a "vehicle" out in the world that says a Being called "God" can enter into your spirit with you to, just like your best friend.  You will know that you are not alone in your spirit, and that something else has taken up residency with you.  What has taken up residency with you won't be the vehicle out in the world called "knowledge" or "way of thinking" vehicle, as those vehicle do not lead to another entity living inside of you with your own entity.  

Now even though God is capable of doing what I just said, even though he has some how duplicated himself and entered into one of his beings in an entity fashion way, does not mean that he is no longer everywhere in the universe.  Even though he has refined into an entity presence to take up personal relations and residency with you does not mean that he is still not everywhere filling all the different Cosmos.  The two ideas are not contradictory, and they are both capable of existing side by side.
#68
Hi Nay

    I think you could probably fix that situation with your husband.  Have you ever heard of de-snore.  It comes in a little squirt bottle, and you spray some in your spouses mouth at night before they go to sleep.  they say it works.  You can probably type de-snore under a search engine, and possibly find something on it.  It sounds like if you can just get past the snoring, you will be on your way sailing.  Have a good one
#69
Hey Ramakrishna

It's not possible to ask God where he is not.  It's not possible to ask him that because He's everywhere.  He fills this Cosmos, and he fills every other Cosmos he has ever created whether it's a Cosmos adjacent to our Cosmsos, or a Cosmos that is separated from all Cosmos all together.

But that is a very interesting question.  That is actually a very creative question.  I give you 200 points out of a possible 100 for that one.   You just caused me to think of a new idea about God.  God has been growing! Not in his essence because his essence has always existed and always will exist, but where He has been growing is in the increase in the number of worlds and cosmos that He is continuing to create.  

So let's look at your question again. Where is God not?  The answer to that question is He is not where he has not created a cosmos yet.  but soon as He does create that Cosmos then He will be there to.
#70
Okay now that we have all had a good laugh and have lightened our load, I would like to clarify some things from my more serious post.

I think Link shadow knows what I was trying to say in the post about the Holy Spirit.

To me it's not about Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Budhism, of Judaism.  To me it's about searching and trying to find answers.

The first questions at the top of my agenda is: Is there a God or Gods, or is it all about a big bang and evolution.  That's the first answer I'm searching for in my search for truth.  Where that answer may lead me I do not care.  If it leads me to Buddhism, then great.  If it leads me into Judaism, then that's great to.  If it leads me to evolution then that's fine.  If it leads me to the knowledge that there is more than one God, then that is what I might choose to believe.  To me it's not about religion, it's about searching for truth, and meaning in this life, and in this world.

However, I don't stop there, I actually believe through trial and error that someone can find the answer to the first question.  All they have to do is read up on everything that is presently out there in the world, and start trying things.  

Concerning the hypothesis of God.  If God really does exist and really did create us, then that makes me tend to believe certain things about God.  I figure God can't give us something that He himself doesn't have.  So I figure our ability of emotions and feelings must have came from him and be similiar to him. I then tend to believe based upon my own makeup that if their is a God He must be a sociable God who likes interactions with others and like's companionship, because those are characteristics we have in each of us.  That makes me tend to believe that if He exists, that one of the structures or mechanisms out in the world right now were put there by Him, as his vehicle, by which he can introduce himself to us.  

So then my next quest is to look out into the world and locate all the vehicles that exist.  I'm not going to give them a name, whether it be Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, or Budhism, because names are not what I'm looking for.  What I'm looking for is something that is most likely to be God's vehicle in the world that God himself has worked to set up so as to have a mechanism and structure in the world by which he can introduce himself to his offspring before he enters into a relation with them, in the type of relation that I mentioned earlier in the post discussing the Holy Spirit.

From looking at the different vehicles out in the world, what I've noticed about most of the vehicles is that they are only set up as 1) a form of knowledge, or  2) as way to think with our mind (a lot of vehicle options in this area), or  3)as a belief structure that consists of higher entities but with no way to actually have a one on one personal relationship with those so called higher entities (a lot of vehicle options in this category to),  4) and then I noticed an unusual vehicle - this vehicle claimed that an actual Being called the Holy Spirit was not only God, but it was a God who wanted to have a personal one on one spirit to spirit relationship with you not just in words or in a way of thinking but in a feeling, touching, merging, loving, comforting, and communicating way. It's a vehicle that allows you to have your best friend's spirit living in you with your spirit in the same body.  And it's a forever union.  If this one particular vehicle is real, the implications of it are that a person or offspring will now have another Being who both loves him and created him that will be with him loving him forever.


One last thing to keep in mind which explains why God must have a vehicle or mechanism.  God needs a vehicle or mechanism because he values our free will, and will not just go around jumping around into his offspring and entering into their spirit without any kind of permission from them.  And it's going to be difficult for God to get permission from us if he first doesn't find a way to introduce himself to us.  He can't just introduce himself to us in the same way that another human being introduces himself to another human being.  The only way God has of really introducing himself to us is through some kind of a revelation that he sends into the world, and to organize that revelation into some kind of a vehicle or mechanism which can achieve the objects that God is seeking.

The only other option God has, if he chooses not to form such a vechicle in this world, is to just watch each and everyone of us from a distance, as He will in no wise go around jumping in our spirits without our permission.  I believe God has opted to establish a vehicle, all those searching for the truth and answers need now is to find that vehicle whatever it may be called.

#71
Links shadow

    That was spoken with wisdom.  It reminds me of a movie I saw one time.  This guy came up to his buddies and told them that he had found this girl, and that he was for sure that she was the one.  Some time went by, and the next thing you know he was no longer interacting with that female.  Not only was he no longer interacting with her, but he noticed another good looking female at a table at a restaurant.  He then started about talking about how nice she looked and how he wondered if she was single along with other things.  Then one of the buddies looked at him and said "wait a second", I thought you were telling us that the other woman you were seeing was the "one".  He then replied, "she was, she was the last "one", and that women over there is the next "one".  I hope this helps break the ice a little bit.

It would be kind of difficult to top Links shadows.  But what the hell.  Whether hell freezes over or breaks out, I sure the Hell don't want to go there, I wouldn't even want to go visit there. Paradise sounds so much better.  Paradise sounds so good that if you throw a couple of women in there, some guys over in the middle east are even willing to blow themselves up.  I tell you the only way we are ever going to get rid of suicide bombers is to take the harlem of virgins out of paradise.  Somebody needs to convince those guys that somebody wasn't telling them the truth.
#72
Hi everyone

    I'm going to use Links shadow and jilola to express the point I'm trying to get across about the Being called the Holy Spirit.  Let's say Jilola is a human entity and Links shadow is God the Creator.  So Links shadow is God and has all the emotions and feelings that are also part of the spirit nature of God the Creator.  Links shadow then creates human offspring, Jilola.

However, something goes wrong in creation and mankind begins to multiply on the earth but they do it separate from their Creator.  So the Creator, Links shadow loves her offspring Jilola and wants to find a way to establish direct communion and relations with Jilola again.

Now the Creator can do something that Jilola can't do, the Creator can divide himself and enter into as many of his human offspring who want personal relations with him.  This type of relationship is not an impersonal type of relationship such as with Zeus, or Allah, or the Egyptian Gods, or other Beliefs.

In those relationships the human offspring could love Zeus, Allah, or their Egyptian God, but none of those Gods actually duplicated and entered into their spirit with them.  Not only did that not happen, but even their religions did not teach or show that something like that could happen.  Something unusal like that happening was not part of any of those religions, nor is it part of any known religion today, except for ONE.  That one, is Christianity. I'm not espousing Christianity here, I'm espousing finding where God has set up a mechanism by which he uses to introduce himself to his offspring and enter into direct personal relations with them.

If there is one God and he exists, first he would have to bring a religion into existence that even allowed for a personal relationship, where the God Being duplicates and enters into each human being that desires him.  In other words Links shadow as the Creator God would actually enter into jilola with jilola's spirit.  At that moment in time Jilola would know that another entity had entered into her, and she would also know that the entity that entered into her was God, the Creator.  From then on out Jilola would never be alone in her body by herself again for eternity.  The God being would also now be inside of her and her body talking to her, loving her, leading her, and guiding her.  The Creator found a way back to one of his human offspring.

Whether all humans on the earth will come to know God in the way God most prefers them to know him, and that He most prefers to know them is not likely.  The reason for this is that something has gone wrong in the world, and there is to much confusion and mixed signals in the world.  

I would like to leave everyone with this final question.  Do you think a human being would feel it if one of their best friends spirits came and entered into them in their spirit with them?  While there best friend was in their spirit with them, do you think the two spirits could communicate with each other and know and realize that they both were occupying the same body, and that they both were distinctly two different beings inertwining in communion in one body?  If you answer yes to that question, then you have answered yes to everything I have been trying to say on this forum.  Now replace that best friend with God the Creator's Being entering your spirit and body.

Here is the final question?  If you could feel your best friend's spirit enter your body, do you think you could feel and recognize God the Creator of the universe if he was to enter your body?

The thing about the Bible is that it gets you ready for that encounter.  It's a way of believing that the Creator has used to let you know something about him, and he uses God the Son as his door to enter into you in the description that I have described above.

In other words God needed to make an introduction for himself to prepare us before he entered into us.  Without any kind of introduction we may not know what being has entered into us, or where he came from or why he is here.  The knowledge in the Bible is God's way (mechanism) to introduce himself to us, and it's our way to let God know that our free wills accept his introduction and allow him to come in if He chooses.

Links shadow if you were God the Creator would you just go jump on jilola and enter into her without any kind of a way of introducing yourself to her?  Or would you try to create some kind of a mechanism by which to reach your human offspring, and then use that mechanism or structure you set up in the world to inform them of who you are, and show them how they can let you in if they choose to. God will never violate our free wills, so He had to set up some kind of mechanism in the world by which he Could introduce Himself to us.
Call that mechanism or structure whatever you will but God had to establish it.  After he established it, it's up to us to go the other half of the distance.

Everyone good luck with your journies in life.  If there is a truth and a God, I hope we all one day find Him.
#73
Hi James

    I agree with you, the EM field generator things is a topic that is still wide open to discussion.  We just need to find a lot of rich people, who are sincerely interested in the spiritual realm and in helping others who can make these devices and then sell them to others at an affordable price.  That is once that have been field tested and have been shown to work.

The world still has a lot of un-earthed ideas out there, and plenty of different kinds of technology to work with, to hopefully in the near future come up with an array of different kinds of devices that turn the tables on the negs.  As it is now they are invisible, and are out attacking people who cannot see them.  They have an advantage in that area right now, but hopefully soon, devices will be invented that will render obsolete their advantage in that area.  

With creativity and imagination, we will come up with something as a race of people (humans), that will give these "negs" some suprises they have never seen and encountered before.  Maybe we can eventually come up with something that will zap them with such force that it will distort their own vibrational frequencies in an irreversible way where they can never attempt to possess a person again.
#74
What would the site be if there was not at least one Alchimiste moron on it

   First off Alchimiste.  Yes I do believe God created Man in his own Image.  Secondly, I believe that He has probably created a million other types of offsprings of His in other worlds, in his own image also, and probably in other Cosmos not even connected to ours or reachable from this Cosmos.  Sorry there, Alchimiste I know I just stretched your ignorant, idiotic head like a rubber band to a new idea it had never comprehended before.  The concept of a Cosmos that is not connected to another Cosmos, but still both these Cosmos and probably no telling how many more were created by the Creator, even though they are not connected in any way.


If there is anyone riding a biggoted high horse and shooting first and asking questions later like an idiot, it's none other than you Alchimisto.  Before asking me whether I believed God created other offspring "lifeforms" in other worlds, you shot first assuming that I didn't.  Who is the horse riding idiot here with a pistol, it definately isn't me, it's none other than the speaker and shooter himself, Alchimisto.   You ate your own words on that one buddy.

Also if anyone is on a one man crusade to do something, it appears that you are on a one man crusade to try to insult and offend as many people as you can on Robert Bruce's web pages and forums.

If I was on a one man crusade to find techniques against "negs", which I'm not, I wouldn't have come to the different forums talking to other people about different techniques and methods for "neg" removal.

And the only one trying to fit any facts to any theories is you with your interpretation of the Karmic theory, which would have a person watch a poor little child be eaten by a wild animal, that attacked him, chewed him up, and tour his insides out.  In your karmic interpretation no one should do anything to help the child let alone anyone else from any harm that may befall them, because it's their Karmic distribution for it to happen.

I hope no one has the unfortunate opportunity of being in a dangerous situation and you are the only human close by that could possibly help them.  With your karmic beliefs it would be as if there were no humans close by that could help them.

I also hope that no one has the unfortunate opportunity of having to hear your smart butt comments and remarks, but unfortunately I know that is not going to happen, because it's your one man crusade to try to insult and offend as many people as you can on these forums.

  Now concerning some other things you said in your narrow minded reply above. Concerning your remark in his "image".  Apparently your mind is to dam narrow to comprehend what that is saying so let me try to explain it to you.  In his image doesn't mean some kind of a physical form or physical body.  In his "image" means with the same feelings and  emotions that make up his Being.  It also means in a family structure.  God is a family within himself.  So he has created all his offsprings throughout the worlds in a certain kind of family type structure to.   Alright do you comprehend all of that.

Now what I would like you to do is list all the people that Jesus, the Son of God killed by removing "negs" out of those that were possessed.  How about "Legion" do you remember him.  He had more "negs" in him than anyone could count.  Did he die when Jesus just removed all of them out of him, instantly.  No he didn't.  What we read was that the guy then had an instant peace, and was automatically sane again and in his right mind.

Alchimiste if you would begin to listen more on these forums, instead of attacking and trying to smart off to people for no reason at all, you might actually learn something.
#75
Hi everyone

  I'm going to kind of throw a wrench into everything here, and really get us thinking about some different possible concepts.  

First off in reply to imora, if a person doesn't have the Holy Spirit in them from the Christian's perspective that is not necessarily good or bad.  And I did not specifically say whether I had the Holy Spirit being in me or not.  The main point I was trying to get across was that I honestly believe that if there is a God, He is going to earnestly and sincerely try to find a way to establish personal to personal communion with His offspring.  He is going to try to do this through some kind of supernatural, over time, revelation of Himself to mankind (such as Christianity), and kind of throw out a net and hopefully seek to find and establish personal relations with as many of his human offpring as He can in this confused world, whether some of the other human offspring ever perceive His revelation or not.

God wishes they all would, but the facts are that some, because this world is so confusing, will not find the spirit to spirit indwelling communion with Him (Christian perspective, Holy Spirit) while they are living their lives on the Earth, but will only eventually find it after they pass away and enter the spiritual realm, and escape the confusion of this world, and for the first time encounter their Creator face to face with no confusion around them.

Now in reply to Kuhl.  I hold a unique view in response to energy and spiritual guides, and how the knowledge of that information is going to come into play with Christians.  I actually believe there are Holy Angels who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit, just like some humans are.  I also believe there are the Fallen Angels and that they have an entire network and organization that extends throughout the spiritual realm and astral planes.  There is only one way a human being who is astral projecting can know for sure whether some of the Angels (guides) he is encountering are of God or not, and that is by that human being having the Holy Spirit Being in them, and the Holy Spirit telling that human being which entities are with God and which entities are not with God, but may be masquerading as good entities when they are not.  If a human being does not have the Holy Spirit being in him, he can only guess and hope that certain entities may be of God but not know absolutely for sure.  He or she can only go on her intuition in that situation, but intuition can sometimes be wrong.  It's not always right all of the time.  

I believe in the future that there will start to be many Holy Spirit filled Christians astral projecting and exploring the spiritual and astral realms, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit being, for the benefit and protection of other humans.  Right now that is not really going on, as most Christians are still behind on the times when it comes to the astral realms and spiritual realms, and many think it is to new age to be checked out.  But that is where the Christians are incorrect, because the world is going to keep moving forward every day and learning newer and newer things.  Christians must keep up with the pace of technology and the advancements of the world.

Right now there are probably few Holy Spirit filled Christians who have ever astral projected intentionally.  But in the future that is going to change.  Christians are also going to begin to learn a lot more about "negs" and how to counter them, and techniques for forcing them out of humans that they may be trying to harm.

In a way if Christians really do have the one true God of the Universe living in them (Holy Spirit being), then in the future the Christians are going to move into a new role for the benefit of mankind.  That new role is helping all humans map out the astral planes and spiritual planes, and once for all reveal the entities that are in those realms that are of God and doing God's work, from the entities that masquerade as Good entities or God's angels, but in really they are part of the organization of the fallen angels.  

There is no better guide for human kind in the spiritual realm than a human being in communion with God the Holy Spirit who is helping map out the Spiritual realms for the benefit of all mankind.  Ask yourself if certain humans had the task of mapping out the astral and spiritual planes for the benefit of the rest of mankind, would you rather those humans have God's spirit actually indwelling them in communion with them, or would you rather it be humans who just have their spirit alone in them, and do not have the entity Being God in their spirit indwelling them also.

Right now most of the humans that are exploring the astral planes and spiritual planes only have their spirit in them.  This is neither good or bad.  Were not trying to determine whether something is good or bad.  We are trying to find out the "Truth", is there a God?  If so is there actually a way that we can come to know Him while on this Earth in a personal, indwelling, communion way,  Where his entity and being merges with our entity and being and we can share love with each other and even share our separate thoughts with each other while our two spirits are merged together.

Leaf Clover you are seeking proof.  Well the Bible says seek and you will find.  You already know how much God respects our free will.  If there is a Being called God who is capable of duplicating himself (Holy Spirit) and enter into each human who is ready for him and wants him, and it's going to be up to you to find him.  Each journey is up to each individual human being to make.  The journey to God.  In this confusing world God has already tried to get his revelation to as many of us as possible, he's gone his distance.  It now remains to be seen how many of us in this confusing world, can go the other half of the distance and find a personal encounter with God while still living on this earth.  One thing is for sure, and I will say this in closing.  When the Creator of the enitre universe moves into your spirit, you will feel it, you will know it, and you will know it is God.  At that point in time every man and woman will find the proof they need and have been looking for.