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Moonburn33

You asked on 12 June 2004 :  

quote:having presented that hypothesis, i would like to ask what everyone thinks about the function these non-euclidian selves would ultimately serve.

They are part of what we call spiritual reality.

Jo.

Hi Thelou,

quote:Exactly. In JoWo's book, Understanding the Grand Design, he starts of our understanding by walking us through all four dimensions. He gives the example of what perspective a being in one dimension would be. If you drew dots on a piece of paper they are all one dimension. It does not matter the diameter of the dot. Big or small, they are still a flat dot living in a 1D Universe.

Thanks for explaining this dimensional relationship.  Just one comment to avoid confusion.  A dot with no expansion in any direction has zero dimensions, a line has one dimension, and an area has two. An expanded dot covers an area and has two dimensions: width and depth. So the imaginary circular creatures who live in 2D space have two dimensions; I called them "2Ds" A 3D sphere that penetrates the 2D world appears as a circle that changes its size. Your fingerprints on a 2D surface appear to the "2Ds" like five separate fellow 2D beings, even though they are just aspects of your 3D hand that the "2Ds" cannot see.

In the same manner, we 3D creatures perceive separate objects although they are actually one single item in 4D or higher dimensional environments. A typical example is how the electron appears in 3D space either as particle or as wave. Also, we think of space and time as separate items even though they are one unified 4D spacetime according to Einstein. And your body and mind appear as separate aspects of your self.

Thanks again for mentioning this subject.  It helps to visualize our position within the multi-dimensional cosmic reality.

Jo.

Hello Mustang,

On 09 June you wrote:

quote:The media are part of the problem, in every way. They will never support any concept that has anything to do with any truth whatsoever. The media has to tell people what they want to hear, and people want to hear lies, they want their bigotry and prejudices and delusions confirmed, and the media does that for them

I agree with you that this is so now. Yet we can never hope for a better state of affairs unless we do something about it. It begins with interested individuals communicating better alternatives. There is already an "underground" movement towards a new understanding of spirituality.  Several organizations are addressing the problems and a growing number of books are being published about a new view of spirituality. Some publishers already specialize in this field. I believe that we will be better off supporting this trend rather than giving up and watching the growing misery.

Jo.

Hi Adkha,

On 10 June you asked:

quote:On Astral Dynamics, Robert Bruce also talks about higher realms/dimensions. First realtime zone, then astral plane then..I'm not sure... anyway...
How does his vieuw of reality relate to all-entity?

The astral plane is one of the multi-dimensional levels of reality.  I would guess that the realtime zone is our physical reality.  Please remember that a 4-D reality has infinite possible 3-D "sub-realities".  A 5-D reality has infinite possible 4-D realities, and so on.  It is mind-boggling and any specific reality can be anywhere in this unfathomable system.  All-Entity is the unifying Whole of it all.  You can't imagine it, but you can understand the Holistic Logic, which pulls it all together in your mind.  It's like modern physics that can be understood only through mathematics.

quote:On this physical plane we experience consiousness.
You say consious have a far more greatness on a higher level/dimension/plane.
But how does this consiousness get experienced and by who?

This is an excellent question and I'll try to answer it as best as I can.  With multi-dimensional subjects, we can only use metaphors, highly simplified images to come close to an understanding.  These images never tell the whole story.  One possible way to picture consciousness at different levels of reality is to compare the universe with a large corporation.  The mail clerk at the bottom of the organization has his/her area of responsibility. On a higher level is a supervisor with responsibility over several clerks, and so on up to the CEO of the corporation.  The higher you go on the corporate ladder, the larger the scope of responsibility for the managers, and the larger the scope of their consciousness to cope with the responsibility.  A good manager has a good idea of what each of his people does, down to the lowest level.  However, the lowest level employees usually can't imagine the scope of a high level manager's activities and breadth of his conscious mind that's required.

Think of the group entities within the cosmic hierarchy as managers on different levels of multi-dimensional reality. But don't take this example too literally, because there is no way we can describe multi-dimensional reality.  You'll just have to wait until you get there yourself [].

Jo.

Hello Thelou.

In your 10 June post you asked:

quote:I can respect that from a quantum metaphysic point of view. How does it resonate with you and your opinion/feeling from your personal point of view?

I would guess that the evolution of atomic elements would be equivalent to the evolution of organic life that started with a single cell and gradually evolved into more complex organisms.

Hi Red Dragon,

On June 8 you wrote:

quote:Many are the paths. I'm an M.Sc. myself so I'm familiar with the scientific method. One of the other members of the "vision quest" I'm in is a math/physics savant. We used the scientific method to validate, replicate our experiences.

Sounds interesting.  Have you ever considered working with an organization such as the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) or the Consciousness Research Laboratory (CRL)?  Obviously, you need a more sympathetic environment for your work.

quote:Positive belief systems have been proven to enhance psychic results in the 90's.

Of course, we create our reality through our beliefs [].

quote:Not only is North American society not satisfactory any more, its sliding into a fascist state as theorized for the last 20-30 years.

This and your other examples of general dysfunction are all part of the overall trend I mentioned before.  The answer can only be in a better understanding of how the universe works.  It's the motivation behind our discussion here.

quote:JoWo:

quote:I dare say that most people don't even understand the concept of spiritual awakening. I also think that ultimate spiritual awakening for a broad populace is neither feasible nor necessary.

Red Dragon:

It doesn't seem to be feasible in our increasing secular NA society. Unfortunately, despite my/our efforts, I haven't found any method that will avoid this spiritual awakening. Refusing to accept it, or accepting it incorrectly, leads to madness or worse. This is my reasoning behind the postulate that our brains are hard wired for this even though the brain's programming is generally variable.

Interesting how your and my views of differ. I see full spiritual awakening as the ultimate goal of our life experience, whereas you seem to perceive a problem with it.  I assume that the difference is in the approach to spirituality. Let me try this explanation:  I approach spiritual awakening as a natural outcome from thoughts and actions, supported with appropriate meditation, that are in complete harmony with the transcendent Whole of the universe (All-Entity).  This boils down to practicing unconditional love, which is All-Entity.  
If I understand your schamanic approach correctly, Red Dragon, you practice certain psychic exercises in order to modify physiological functions that enable you to experience psychic/spiritual reality.  

I leave the physiological modifications up to the spiritual guides that we all have, trusting their judgment of what's good for me.  You, Red Dragon, take matters more into your own hands, possibly speeding things up, but also taking the risk of potential missteps.  There are pros and cons for either approach, but I would like to hear your view before expanding on this subject.

quote:A shamanic awakening starts with the other dimensional or dark energy suddenly flowing into the head and then down through the body. Needless to say, shamanic awakenings have an unacceptably high failure rate, about one in 3 die according to the lore. Thankfully its very rare.

It may not be a failure from the dying person's point of view. Perhaps he/she likes it so much more on the other side?

quote:We are working on how to do this. But we can't seem to get around going through the "zones" of "omniscience and omnipresence" which is where screw ups occur. Its a poser allright. We even designed and built (based on my Kabbalistic drawings - I've decoded a lot of the ancient tech.) a combination kundalini/caduceus circuit that would activate one's crystalline brain structures. The same result of having to go through a spritual awakening occured.

Sounds to me like a rather delicate surgery requiring an antiseptic environment.  Doesn't this take completely purified mindsets of all participants to avoid mishaps?

Greetings!
Jo.

Hello Everyone,

You are already moving in the fourth dimension, right here and now, we all do.  In fact, we can't not do so because we already live in 4-dimsnional space.  Ever since Albert Einstein and Herman Minkowski, we know that we live in 4-dimensional space that is composed of our 3-D space and 1-D time.  However, while we perceive our space and time as two different aspects of reality, they are not separate in 4-D "spacetime", as it is called.  As Beavis wrote in his 25 May post, "All you have to do is sit and wait. You move in the time dimension."  You can move through 4-D space in any direction as you can now in 3-D space, and you are doing this all the time.  You are just not aware of it.  In other words, we don't need to learn how to move in four dimensions, we only have to become aware of how we are doing this already.

There is a lot more to this subject.  We are not even limited to 4-D.  In fact, we know of no limit to dimensions that exist beyond the ones we experience consciously.  And there is no reason to believe that we don't participate in an untold number of them subconsciously.  You, I, and everyone else are much more than the small ego that we experience consciously. Your soul, for instance, is conscious of many such egos who are all "you", meaning the greater you that you really are.  All these other egos of yours, all the different incarnations of your soul, co-exist in dimensions different from your present incarnation. There are people who can remember some of their other incarnations.  This means that they are aware of how they exist in many more dimensions than just the fourth dimension beyond our 3-D environment.

When you dream, you are getting glimpses of the other dimensions that you occupy.  And messages in other topics of this Astral Pulse Forum, discuss how individuals experience dimensions of reality that are beyond our 3-D space and time.  Those other dimensions are considered "spiritual" in contrast to our physical 3-D environment. Again, it is not a matter of moving into a higher dimension, but of becoming aware that you are already there.  How you do this is a matter of personal preference.  For instance, Red Dragon in the parallel topic "Who understands Quantum Metaphysics" is pursuing shamanism.  Others follow specific meditation routines. I personally prefer the more gentle approach of unconditional love. The trick is not to "strive" for spiritual awakening.  This sounds counter-productive but is important to understand.  Remember that you create your reality based on what you believe.  If you make a point of striving for spiritual awakening, then you state the belief that you are not living in these higher dimensions.  And since you create what you believe, you will not experience these higher dimensions.  In other words, you must think and act AS IF you are already spiritually aware.  Whole books have been written on this subject.

Bet wishes!
Jo.

Hello Everyone,

I may be off the air for a while because of computer problems.

Greetings!

Jo.

Hello Euphoric Sunrise!

quote:Hehe something is telling me to pick this book up as soon as i can.

Welcome to the club []!

Jo.

Hi Thelou,

quote:Hello JoWo and Adkha, In this topic I would like to throw out another theory that I have heard several times over the years. It is REALLY out there. But as difficult to believe, it is also just as difficult to deny as a possibility. I would be very interested to hear what you, or anyone else has to say.

It's an interesting concept. From a quantum metaphysic point of view, I could neither speak for nor against it.

Jo
P.S. If I'm slow answering messages, it's because I am battling computer problems.

Hi Adkha

quote:The whole is everything....it may have boundaries...but not as we see boundaries like the finish of a racecourse.

Let's just say that the whole of everything (All-Entity) is beyond any boundaries imaginable.

quote:The whole is everything so there is nothing more than the whole...so you can't set a bourder anywhere because in that case there must be more beyond that.

This is correct for the Whole of All that Is, All-Entity.

quote:But what about the bigbang theory? Does holistic logic interfere with it? And the theory that the physical universe will shrink again? What if it happens...?Will there be no more 3d universe? Well I know that interferes with holistic logic because the whole can only be the whole with all of its parts...

Remember that time does not exist in multi-dimensional reality.  Therefore, there is no beginning and no end.  What scientists perceive as the Big Bang beginning of the universe could well be a distorted view of All-Entity.  This would make sense in that no differentiation whatsoever exists in All-Entity, according to quantum metaphysics.  Therefore, there are no subatomic particles at the highest level of multi-dimensional reality, only a "field" of extraordinary energy.  In fact, at that level, it makes no sense to talk about dimensions at all, because the term 'dimension' implies that there are other dimensions to compare with.  This is not the case for the Whole of everything, because It is totally undifferentiated.

Repeated expansion and shrinking of the universe has been postulated through channeled sources as well as scientists.  We must again understand that time is only a human perception and that all events occur in the present NOW.  Thus, all phases of universal expansion and shrinking co-exist simultaneously.  Therefore, there will always be a 3-D universe somewhere in the grand scheme of things.

Jo.

Hi Red Dragon,

Good to hear your point of view.  You wrote on May 31:

quote:Reading and understanding Jo's book was pretty easy, its just a different reasoning semantic for what shamans do, i.e access these other dimensions.

I know little about shamanism, so it is so much more satisfying to see the agreement between our views of reality, coming from opposite directions, so to speak.  I pursued a scientifically supported, rational approach in my book.  Using easily observable phenomena in our environment plus results of modern physics, I formulated a set of facts that together form a "Holistic Logic" that naturally leads to a worldview of multiple dimensions, most of which are invisible to us "ordinary citizens".  IOW, using scientific facts and rational thought, it is possible to postulate a cosmic system that agrees closely with age-old spiritual wisdom.

For you, Red Dragon, the multi-dimensional concept developed in my book may be "old hat", but most western people are still rooted in the mechanistic, anti-psychics view.  For many, a shaman is a throwback to "primitive cultures", not to be taken seriously.  You must have encountered this attitude, Red Dragon.  

quote:I'm involved in a vision quest with 2 other shamans. The only vision of the future we had that held out hope for the monkeyplanet's survival was that we should develop these abilities that were previously relegated to the province of mystics and psychics. Not only does this entail achieving a sort of "supra-consciousness", but some pretty neat abilities come with it, i.e. levitation, flight, passing through solid objects, etc.

So, just how to bring about this awareness seems to be the critical problem in addition to determining the mechanics involved.

It is impossible for individuals to develop mystic and psychic abilities unless they first accept that they are for real.  The prevailing western opinion is that they are hocus-pocus.  Therefore it is so important to inform the public about how science supports these phenomena.

quote:Anyway, my theory is that using the brain's crystalline structures via one's thought process causes not only these physical effects, but enables perceptive access and depending on the dimension, actual interaction. So far, there doesn't seem to be any way of avoiding a corresponding "spiritual awakening".

The latter seems to be the biggest hurdle to overcome and is potentially the most debilitating to the individual. Whether we're therefor "wired" for a belief in deity or an "All Consciousness" is a point in question, and thus concepts of "the whole" and its different dimensions simply seek to rationalize this belief.

We are dealing with semantics here.  I have used the word "Whole" to avoid the emotional baggage of existing spiritual terms. Words such as 'spiritual awakening', 'deity', 'All Consciousness' have different connotations for different individuals.  I dare say that most people don't even understand the concept of spiritual awakening.  I also think that ultimate spiritual awakening for a broad populace is neither feasible nor necessary. All that is necessary is for a large sector of humanity to accept the reality of universal "wholeness" including its logical consequences.  We are talking about a "critical mass" of people who see the light.  Once the media support such concepts, we could hope for a change in humanity's direction.

quote: . . . We're a little behind in our appreciation and integration of "The Grand Design", so to speak and our corresponding evolution into humane beings. In the meantime, as was pointed out, the planet and life on it heading for deep doo doo!

 

It's never too late to soften the blow, I hope.

Jo.

Hello again, Adkha,

quote:But that means you have a unlimited of choises...thus a unlimited happenings that are set right? But the Universe...the whole...the all entity...must be unlimited too right? Or even bigger (what's impossible) But does that include mass and energy? That just can't be because it must be constant and not inconstant.

You can have unlimited uses of mass and energy even though the total of mass and energy might be limited. However, we must be careful how we apply our limited human concepts to the multi-dimensional universe.  Relativity Theory, for instance, tells us that our unlimited 3-D space may actually run back into itself, like a circle, so that we could see the same star by looking into opposite directions. In other words, the multi-dimensional universe could be limited as our Eath is limited, even though you can travel the Earth without ever hitting a limit.
I personally believe, though, that All-Entity is unlimited in all aspects that we can imagine, perhaps similar to what I just described for 3-D space - I don't know.

Jo.

Hello Adkha,

Sorry I'm so late answering your post.  I was away from home a few days.
In your 30 May message you asked:

quote:Everything is a part of a design..THE GRAND DESIGN...so every happening every moment is..designed. But where's free will?
How can there be a design if you actually do pick your own decissions?

Good question! Think of the roadmap around your home.  It is a design, but you have the free will to choose wherever you want to go and whatever route you want to take.  So does Quantum Metaphysics provide a map of universal reality and you can choose your own path.  

quote:You (JoWo and thelou)say that every choise you make, there is "another you" who chooses the other option. So when I will ask wich one am I? You will say...both. So no matter what I choose...everything is allready there and there is nothing that actually is caused by me.

Ask yourself, Adkha, "who am I ?".  Are you your body, are you your Self that is the whole of body and mind, or are you your soul?  Or are you even the very source of life within you?  The answer is that you are all of these, depending on what you want to identify with.

Now, when you think of  "another you" who chooses the other option", it belongs to the same soul, "your" soul, even though you might think that it is different from you.  As I pointed out in my book, we must keep our point of view in mind.  Everything is relative.  From the viewpoint of your self, the "other you" seems to be another self.  But from your soul's viewpoint, all these different selves are just different aspects of the same soul, like different surface planes of the same crystal.  

Please let me know, Adkha, if this clarifies your question about free will.  It may take some more discussion.

Greetings!
Jo.

Hello Mark,

Thank you for your interesting contribution to our discussion. You wrote:

quote:I think we all agree that horrible things are going on in the world. And the question is, what to do? What to do? I think it's important to note that human beings move through stages of consciousness. The general trend, supported by a vast amount of research, is a person's consciousness moving from egocentric, to ethno-centric, to world-centric. This is a slow process.

Yes, so it is, and I have a few additional thoughts.  Before we decide exactly what to do, we need to have a clear idea of what needs to be done, what needs to be changed.  What is the root cause of humanity's impasse? IMO, the root cause is a misunderstanding of how the universe works.  Religions as well as science have implanted belief systems that contradict reality, and this led to erroneous behavior.

In religion, metaphorical images of a universal deity have been misinterpreted as an omnipotent and human-like but perfect God who created us. Yet, in spite of the creator's perfection, we somehow ended up being imperfect.  We were made to believe that we were sinners that needed to be punished, and that were far removed from God.  And since we consider ourselves separated from God, we also feel separated from each other.

Reality is the exactly opposite.  The transcendent Whole of the universe is one with us all.  In ultimate reality, there is no separation between us.  Science has enhanced our feeling of separation through its scientific materialism that is still the mainstream scientific paradigm.  

Imagine, instead, that all people in the world would be convinced that we are all one, that we are but cells in one cosmic unit.  Imagine all humans being convinced of their one-ness with the All and with everyone else.  Picture how they would identify themselves with this cosmic One as their own inner self.  People would instantaneously think and act according to the welfare of all, because they would know that the welfare of all is their own welfare.  Then they won't need any "morals" to foster moral behavior because they won't want to hurt themselves.

In this sense, Mark, I believe that ideas are not only a start, but they are the essential moving force.  Once you have instilled the right ideas, the appropriate action follows automatically.  The needed action is to educate as many people as possible, as soon as possible, about the true nature of reality.  I believe that this is the anwer to "what to do?".  And I agree with you, Mark, that practices like meditation, performed with dedication and perseverance, are required in order to secure the new ideas in peoples' minds. I also believe that the belief-change is very urgent.  True, the human evolutionary pattern evolves from egocentric, to ethno-centric, to world-centric, similar to how a person passes through childhood, adolescence, and maturity.  However, we are not satisfied with this detached view of events if our teenage daughter has AIDS, or our son is a drug addict.  I believe that humanity's present state of affairs is more an emergency than a normal evolutionary phase.

Greetings!
Jo.

Thank you, Mustang, for your important contribution.  You wrote:

quote:Let me repeat, I am only hinting at something here. Something far more terrible than any of you can even begin to imagine is going on, a FIASCO unprecedented in the history of medicine and even science.

Your description of a major breakdown in medicine is only one example of a general trend in humanity's toying with disaster.  It is brought about by a decrease of consideration for others. The behavior of children is a good barometer of society's psychological climate.  Who would have ever dreamed of school children gunning down their teachers and classmates?  Only an emotional disconnect from other people makes this possible.  But we can't blame the children.  Adults are even worse.  For decades, nations have developed terrible weapons of mass destruction – napalm, massive nuclear arsenals, poison gas, and biological weapons.  Any one of these is capable of killing vast numbers of innocent people.  Terrorism is only the visible indicator of how much humans have lost contact with their inner source and with each other.

On the industrial front, powerful corporations exploit and deplete natural resources. In 1998, the oil industry projected "optimistically" that the world's natural oil reserves would last about 40 years at present rates of consumption, according to Thom Hartman's well-researched book, "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight".  However, world oil consumption is rapidly increasing with the population growth and industrialization of Eastern countries.  China is now the number two oil consumer after the USA.  Yet, no credible effort is being made to solve this problem.  Imagine society running out of crude oil, our main energy source and the basis of vital products such as plastics!  Can you picture the havoc in our world economy when oil prices skyrocket as oil reserves are exhausted?  The present oil prices are nothing compared with what's ahead. And don't assume that corporate leaders won't let this happen!

Another well known trend is global warming and the loss of the protective ozone layer.  In a January 2001 United Nations conference in Shanghai, hundreds of scientists from around the world unanimously agreed that man-made pollutants cause global warming.  Their report predict widespread drought, floods, and violent storms caused by a rapid temperature increase. The Earth's average temperature could rise as much as 10.4 degrees in 100 years – the most rapid change in 10 millennia. Advanced computer models predict melting of the ice caps and the rise of sea levels up to 34 inches!  The resulting floods will displace tens of millions of people in low-lying areas.  Worldwide drought will lead to extended wildfires and will scorch farmlands, resulting in unprecedented famine.

Another reckless activity that directly threatens our survival is the unscrupulous elimination of the rain forests that produce the oxygen we all need to breathe. Thom Hartmann reports that 38 million acres are being destroyed every year.  At this pace, rain forests will not survive in our children's lifetimes.

The gap between the rich and the poor has increased dramatically.  ABCNEWS.com reported that the world's three richest families own more than the 43 poorest nations combined while tens of thousands of people die every day of starvation and related diseases.  On the medical front, antibiotics are being used with careless abandon, for livestock as well as for humans.  As a result, bacteria are being groomed that are increasingly immune to antibiotics.  

The Parents Television Council reports that "filthy language, graphic sexual raunch and mindless violence on prime time TV has tripled in the last decade."  The Council considers TV shows sleazy, violent and anti-family and feels that this influence will lead our nation's children "down a moral sewer."  The list goes on and on: overpopulation, mass starvations, extinction of animal species, fish stock depletion from over-fishing, uncontrolled dissemination of nuclear material etc., etc.

The trend is clear and pervasive.  We will continue down this road unless we make a conscious effort to change direction.  We claim to be an advanced civilization because of our technological achievements, but we are spiritually under-developed.  Humankind is like an immature teenager who is speeding down the highway without a driver's license.  The root cause of society's unfortunate behavior is ignorance.  If we would understand how we hurt ourselves as we hurt others in pursuit of our own advantage, we would think twice.  

Quantum Metaphysics provides a clear, logical explanation of how we are all tied together in multi-dimensional reality, and how we hurt ourselves if we hurt others.  Unless there is a general awakening and understanding of this automatic feedback, we'll keep roaring down the path to disaster.

Jo.

Hello Thelou,

quote:How do I affect what my thoughts/beliefs are so that I can live in the parallel universe that I want. It is interesting to note here that none of the other things in my life changed such as people or what not. I feel the giant rock was there as a symbol for me to learn what I did.

The "Rock Experience" you described in your 27 May post is indeed fascinating.  It was probably a pointer from your inner/higher Self to familiarize you with the multiple universe concept.  It demonstrated very effectively how your mindset influences your reality.  Apparently, you clearly understood how your environment changed depending on whatever belief you held in your mind.

Now you are asking how you can control your mindset so that you experience the reality (universe) you want.  I believe that I have answered this question already in my 24 May post above.  You have read my "Understanding the Grand Design" book.  Read again Chapter 10, Creating Your Own Reality, specifically pages 139 - 143.  This is how you choose between different universes, which is just another way of saying how you create your desired reality.

Let me know, please, if this answers your question. Best wishes!
Jo.

Thank you for your book reference, Ryu-Kanjin.  It sure sounds interesting!

Jo.

Hi Thelou,

The scenario of branching life histories for the same person whenever he/she decides between alternate possible actions is described in much detail by Jane Roberts in her channeled Seth book "The Nature of Personal Reality".  For us this concept seems to be so mind boggling as to be virtually unacceptable.  Every time you decide between different options, you start a parallel universe that plays out the option that you did not choose.

However, from a quantum metaphysics point of view, this makes perfect sense, because all these myriad parallel universes already exist potentially in multi-dimensional reality. If you remember, I compared this situation in my book with taking pictures of a tree.  The tree is three-dimensional whereas the pictures have only two dimensions.  By viewing the tree from different directions, you literally can choose from an infinite number of different views from which to take pictures. You need only one single tree in 3-D, yet there is no limit to how many 2-D aspects you can "create".  Quantum Metaphysics postulates that we live in an environment with many more dimensions than three and that this multi-dimensional (M-D) reality is full of M-D phenomena that we do not perceive directly because our senses are only suited for 3-D.  We see only one 3-D aspect at a time.

I can imagine that our physical body is one such specific aspect of a higher-dimensional "astral body", or whatever we want to call it.  From a higher viewpoint, the different physical bodies would be like shadows of one "real" M-D body.  We already know that the seemingly solid appearance of our physical body is an illusion when you consider that most space is empty between subatomic particles.  And the different bodies could not see each other because they occupy different dimensions.

You mentioned the desirability of the One (God) to experience all possible variations of a situation.  Don't forget that you are just as interested in knowing the different outcomes of your possible decisions.  Wouldn't you like to know what would have occurred if you had married your other girlfriend?  According to Seth, this sort of thing actually occurs for our own higher self.

I also agree with you, Thelou, that we would welcome comments from the other members who read my book or my "Revolution in Common Sense" essay.

Greetings!
Jo.

Hello Mustang,

Thank you for your very informative post about "scientific objectivity".  The very concept of objectivity pre-assumes that a reality of objects exists outside and independent of the human mind.  Yet, this basic belief is being contested by quantum physics.  True, other scientific branches have not followed yet, however it is a scientific axiom that a single proven contradiction to a prevailing assumption requires a revision of that assumption.

Collaborating your many examples of lacking objectivity in science is a postscript in Michael Crichton's book "Travels", where he describes many cases of scientific prejudice. For instance, geology experts rejected Alfred Wegener's theory of continental drift for forty years until it was finally accepted.  Also, hypnotism was discredited for more than two hundred years.

Hello Thelou,

You are asking two questions:
1.)   How do our subconscious thoughts affect our environment?
2.)   How can I control my thoughts to create the experiences I want?

One of the multi-dimensional (spiritual) laws is the law of attraction, which simply states that like attracts like. We know that no physical distance exists in the multi-dimensional environment.  Physicists call this "nonlocality".  So it is relatively easy for wide-spread situations to pop into your experience when they correspond to your mindset.

We need to understand that we actually live in an environment that has many more dimensions than our three space dimensions. Our eyes, and therefore our daytime conscious mind, do not perceive the many dimensions beyond our three.  This is our human limitation. In the "real" multi-dimensional reality, all imaginable and unimaginable situations exist already potentially as possible events in our space and time.  Your unconscious mindset "looks" into this vast selection of possible but yet unrealized events and automatically tunes into those that resonate with your mindset. In doing so, you activate these events in your space and time.  It's like having a camera with a color filter, say red, and you take a picture of a colorful scene.  You end up having only the red items on your picture.  Thus, you convert the multi-color (multi-dimensional) scene into a single color (3-D) reality.

The color filter represents your mindset that is composed of all your thoughts, beliefs, opinions, desires, intentions, and phobias.  At any one moment, you have only one thought in your conscious mind.  All other contents of your mindset are in the background and seem to be hidden, perhaps so much that you think they are beyond your reach.  You are so accustomed to this mindset that you tend to ignore it and you call it "subconscious".  Yet, it is there alive, below your present awareness, and it does its job of filtering out your personal share of the infinite multi-dimensional reality.  As a result, your personal environment is a physical reflection of your inner mindset. You can use this reflection as a mirror, so to speak, to give you clues about what is really in your mind and changes you may want to make.

I have described how to change your mindset in Chapter 10 of my book, and it would be too much to repeat here. Suffice it to say that you can sort out your personal beliefs, opinions, etc. by writing them down, one at a time.  Then you decide which ones cause experiences that you dislike.  After that, you formulate new beliefs that you want to adopt instead of the undesirable ones.  Finally, you use autosuggestion to permanently implant these new beliefs in your mindset.  It is not a matter of "overriding subconscious thoughts" but of replacing undesirable thought patterns with desirable ones.

This process requires some self-discipline, which could well be one of the new beliefs to be adopted.  I can tell you from my own experience, Thelou, that this process is very advantageous.  You clear your mind of clutter and you know much better "what you want".  Most importantly, you get much more out of your life.  You literally can create "paradise" for yourself.  It did so for us, my wife and me.

I wish you good luck with creating your own reality, Thelou []

Jo.

Thank you very much for your ringing endorsement, Thelou!
When I sent you my book in exchange for your participation in its discussion, I expected your questions about its content and my subsequent effort to get my points across. Yet, you are very kindly responding with an overwhelming praise not only in this forum but also in amazon! I certainly appreciate your surprising review [].

Now, are you sure that everything is so crystal-clear in my book that we don't need to talk about it any more?

My best wishes to you, thelou,

Jo.

mactombs,

Apparently, you have some catching up to do.  I suggest that you get better informed about this forum.

Hello matcombs,

Referring to your 14 May post, I believe that you misunderstood my prior posts.  I was talking about quantum-metaphysics, not quantum mechanics.  I was emphasizing the urgent need to understand spiritual reality in order to halt humankind's slide toward anarchy. Since spiritual reality is still denied by many scientists, quantum-metaphysics provides a desirable means to reverse this trend.

Hello mustang,

Mactombs' quote at the beginning of your 17 May post may misinterpret my own opinion.  I agree with you that knowledge of quantum mechanics is not necessary for understanding spiritual reality.  However, in today's society, where scientific opinion is still biased against a holistic world-view, it is advantageous to understand the intimate relationship between modern physics and spiritual reality.  This is the purpose of what I call "quantum-metaphysics", described in my website www.quantum-metahysics.com and in my book "Understanding the Grand Design, Spiritual reality's Inner Logic".

Greetings!
Jo.

Hello volcomstone,

There must be better sites in the Astral Forum that deal with healing.  Perhaps you ask one of the forum moderators.  It also depends on what kind of healing you need.  You may want to use private e-mail.  In any case, I can tell you that there is nothing wrong with asking for help if you feel the need for it.  'No man is and island', and we all need help sometime in our lives.  Don't worry about being selfish, you may do more harm, or you may inconvenience others more, if you don't get needed help.  And yes, many people will be glad to give help without expecting anything in return.  They understand that unselfish giving enriches their heart.  

You mentioned 'balance', volcomstone, and I assume that you mean compensation for good deeds.  In the end, everything balances out automatically.  If you feel the urge, you can speed up the balancing by helping others when the occasion arises.

I don't understand your next paragraph that starts with "Which brings me to another point".  Could you please elaborate?  The rest of your post opens up deep questions that require many pages to be answered adequately.  I have explained these matters in my book "Understanding the Grand Design", but I don't want to sound like I am trying to peddle it to you.

I send you my best wishes, volcomstone, and I hope that you put away your qualms about getting help.

Jo.