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#51
When you hold it up to the light, can you see through it? If yes, then it is Obsidian. If no, it could be flint or chert.

There is also a rock that looks like that with the glamorous name of river rock. I have several of those.

Another test, hold a magnet near it. Is it magnetic?

You could try chipping a bit off of one end -- though it is already pretty small. The outer surface has obviously been rough-polished. There are some types of petrified wood that are black.

It might be a type of hematite. That stuff comes in red and black, and can look like everything from polished metal to a meteorite look-alike.
#52
Painterhypnogirl,

I have been told I am a bundle of contradictions.  :lol:

I firmly believe in metaphysical energy. We can see it, feel it, manipulate it -- it is as real as a breeze on your face. I don't disbelieve in psychokinesis, it's just that my jury is still out on the subject.

I have a strong skeptical side, even regarding the things I have experienced.

I watched orbs zipping around in a dark cave. I couldn't see them with closed eyes so they were a physical event. Some folks who also saw them said they were spirits. Ehhhh, maybe -- maybe not. All I am prepared to believe now is that they exist.

I was looking in a mirror one time when all of a sudden I was behind "me" and watching "me" looking into the mirror. Was it real? Ohhh, definitely! What does it mean? What can I do with it? Again, my jury is still out. But you can bet I am working on it!  :smile:

I was walking outside one evening and the gnats/mosquitos were driving me crazy. Without thinking I "tuned in" to the energy sea and told them to keep away. For the rest of my walk I could see them about a foot or two around me, but none came closer than that. That convinced me that such things can be done (like telekinesis), but I have been unable to do it again.

The reason I reccommend extreme caution with the metaphysical is that there is so much fraud and hokem. Shirley McClaine is a good example of someone who is totally gullible. I read her book and the folks she believed in were so patently yanking her chain it was pathetic. And yet, she spent no telling how many thousands of dollars supporting those frauds! Bah! :mad:

I believe the potential is there, the ability is there, but it is way not as common as folks would have us believe. I also believe that many people here on this forum are making good progress in exploring true energy mastery. If we can unlock that ability, then maybe we can wind up with that better world we all want. Meanwhile, we just have to keep an eye out for sharks!   :lol:
#53
Silent Shadow,

This is just one person's opinion, but I believe the aura and energy are pretty much the same thing.

When you say you see purple and blue I would guess you see the purple against a dark background and the blue (clear, sky blue?) against a white background. At least that's what happens with me.

Color blind folks usually have problems with red and green. It that you? If so, you will have no problem seeing most "auric phenomena."

At a workshop in Montana a few years back a group of us were trying to see auras. We got the basic energy field, then were able to see fluctuations in color and intensity as our "targets" manipulated energy between their hands. I also saw a brow chakra on one guy -- that blew my mind! Up to then I had paid no attention at all to chakras (still don't give it too much thought) so it was out of left field for me.

The only advice I could give is not to strain your eyes while practising. Take a break and rest your eyes every few minutes, then go again. It sounds like you are right on track.  :smile:
#54
For me, drugs would throw an uncertainty factor into the mix that I totally don't need. How hard is it already to distinguish what is "real" from what may be just a garden-variety dream, a delusion, or a case of wishful thinking. Why add another layer of confusion?

Besides, I don't need drugs to do what I can darn well do myself!  :exclamation: IMO using a drug crutch is the same as those idiots who get in a car to drive across the street. :roll: We were given certain mental and physical abilities in this life. We can choose to use and develop them, or we can blow it off and take the easy path.

CF Traveler, I also agree there are other reasons, and good ones, to avoid drugs as much as possible (recreational and otherwise), but like you, I am not going into that area here.
#55
Welcome to Magic! / magician in my dreams
May 05, 2006, 14:19:31
Generally, the dreams I have where a an advisor is present are really trying to tell me something. I would say your dream might be a message and not just a casual dream. However, I have found words to be extremely hard to retain.  

My suggestion would be, as you are falling asleep and when you have that floaty, tingly feeling, think to yourself "Explain please!" as strongly as you can. Then write down your dreams as soon as you wake up to be sure and capture as much as possible.

Hopefully this will give you a little more to work with.   :smile:
#56
Stookie,

Love your post! :lol: And you are right about the chicken.  :wink:

How about this:

Planaria worms are very tiny little creatures that humans can just barely see without a microscope. Scientists commonly use them in the lab. One reason is that if you cut one in half, it will grow into two separate, individual worms.

If you were such a worm in a scientific experiment, would you know it? Would you have any idea that the world you inhabit was only a slide on a scientist's microscope? Would you have any concept of the scientist, much less the world he inhabits?

What if we are in actuality on a petri dish in some laboratory somewhere with no way to know about that "real world"? (Wonder if that scientist has a belief in "God"...

And Stookie, you are right again -- it's enough to give a body a roaring headache!  :smile:
#57
Garlic is good -- fresh if possible. Also exercise. The better physical shape you are in, the better your cholesterol level will be. That would be a "do as I say, not as I do" recommendation!  :lol:

Fish oil is problematic. The best way to get it is through canned, wild-caught salmon. I would avoid all the pills and such because of the contaminants in them. Otherwise it is an excellent suggestion.  :smile:

Niacin (a B-vitamin) will control cholesterol, as well as keeping your arteries clean and clear. However, the dosage needs to be about 1500 mg per day. At this level you should get your doctor's okay before starting, and make sure he checks your liver enzymes periodically. There should be no problem unless you are taking other drugs that are also hard on the liver.

Also, you will get what they call "Niacin flush" from it. Over time that should diminish, but it will be interesting for awhile! (he, he, he) (Where's the emoticon for mischievious imp?!)

I know nothing about the ionic minerals, but it sounds convoluted.

Garlic is much the easiest. Add exercise and you should see good results. The Niacin is almost a wonder drug, safe, but a bit of a pain in some ways.

Good luck!
#58
I can add to this a little bit.

A couple of years ago I attended Robert Bruce's workshop in Montana. Part of that experience was a trip to a cave (fairly small entrance and not "user friendly," but worth it.) There were 15 or 20 of us. The cave was moist, so any dust would have been minimal. We all sat down and all lights were turned off.

When my eyes adjusted, I could see several blue orbs drifting and zipping around somewhere in front of me. They were of various sizes. The smaller ones tended to scamper about, moving fast and erratically. The larger ones were inclined to drift, or just hover in place.

When I closed my eyes I couldn't see them, so they were a physical thing, not metaphysical. Several folks did capture them on film, and they look just like standard orb photos.

Some folks said they were dust particles and some folks said they were spirits. I have no idea what they were, but can say with certainty that you don't need a camera to see them.

The orbs were just one event among many. It was an interesting trip!
#59
What type of emotion did the experience bring? Anger, fear, sadness..?

Obviously this is resonating with you somewhere, but it could relate to something in life. Have you watched Lord of the Rings where the Ring Bearer fell into the bog? That sounds very much like what you are describing. Your mind could be using that scene to try and convey a message.

As to meaning, I can only guess. It seems like a kind of sensory deprivation. Being underwater blocks your nose (breathing or smelling things); restricting your hands blocks feeling, eyes (sight) and mouth (speech) This could mean that someone or something wants you to concentrate on listening. Maybe next time try and concentrate on listening and see what happens. But again, this is just a guess
#60
You raise an interesting point. I have a problem in the physical with tending toward "potty mouth." In my opinion that habit just shows a person's ignorance -- therefore I am trying to kick it, but habits die hard!  :roll:

However, I can't recall a single instance in my dream/nonphysical experience where I even thought of cussing. I have been scared and I have been mad, but so far as I know, never swear. When I think about it, that is strange!

Ummm, this sounds like you may had one of those dreams recently...? (grin!) So was it fear or anger? My cussing career started with a horse standing on my foot with great enjoyment. Horses are marvelous animals but they could make a saint cuss!  :wink:

By the way, I have a cousin who wouldn't say crap if she was standing in it. Welll, one night we were fishing and I spotted a rather large snake on the edge of the dock. I called her over and pointed it out. Hoo, boy, what a reaction -- set her non-cussing record back a few years!  :smile:
#61
Major Tom wrote:
QuoteLike let's say you have afterlife communication and learn from what appears a deceased person certain things you could not know. Does that mean the person survived death?
That would certainly be proof that something survives physical death. I have had dreams involving friends or family that had died at the time of the dream. In one the deceased was tellilng me things that he said were very important and that I should remember them. Of course, when I woke up, I could remember none of it!  :roll: I have never had any of them give me verifiable information -- yet!  :wink:

Here are the things I know are "real":

Mental telepathy (though about 99% of practitioners are fakes)
OBE (been there, done that)
Magic (manipulation of the Energy Sea)

This is a short list, but there are worlds of possibility in them.

Here are my "what if's" about life after death:

If the Christian premise is true, then this physical world we are in could very well be Hell. In that case, it is quite likely we will come back in another physical form each time we die because the bible promises eternal damnation. (If this one's right I must have been a real stinker at some point!)  :razz:

If the Buddhist, New Age, etc. premises are true, then we are here to either learn lessons, reach enlightenment, or both. That being the case, the physical is just one stop on the road to wherever we are actually traveling. (If this one is right, where do I go to graduate?!!)

If the Atheists are right and the physical is all we have, then we should learn and do all we can in the astral while we have the chance, because when we die, it stops! (If this is true, then obviously I won't care once I die.

Last, my own semi-philosophy: our consciousness, abilities, etc., could be the result of random combinations of atoms and energy. There is no reason for being and no certainty of an afterlife. When we die our energy is dumped back into the communal pool. Sort of like that now-famous box of chocolates -- you never know what you will get.  :wink:

QuoteRegardless, and for what it's worth, intuitively, this idea as the brain as responsible for everything does have ridiculous ring to it at times, not?
I sort of hope you are right about this. My curiosity makes me want there to be an afterlife (other than the Christian Hell thing!).  :shock: But a part of me would also be rather relieved just to have things over and done! (Never mind, just a down day apparently.)

By the way, if this link comes through, here's a neat cartoon about Karma: http://billyblob.com/cartoons/karma-ghost/. If you can't click it, maybe try cut and paste.
#62
What a neat thread! I am only too glad to add my two-cents!  :wink:

It is undeniable that many of our astral experiences are similar. This could mean a couple of things. Perhaps we are experiencing a valid alternative reality (the astral). Or, maybe the human brain is wired in such a way that when particular synapses are "tweaked," then a particular response is invoked. Or it could be both of these.

Token, you seem to be saying there are things in the astral with no correlation in physical (RTZ) reality. I don't know, but it is interesting.  My belief is that we cannot imagine what we have not experienced. If that is true, then everything in the astral must be a reflection of some physical reality. When I consider your statement I wonder about the chicken and the egg.  Could it be that our physical reality is a reflection of our astral world? Or is it the other way around?  :confused:

In my lucid dreams I have been in the form of a bird several times. I can tell you exactly what it feels like to be that bird. In my "real" memory, I have never been a bird. I have assumed that this astral experience was a reflection of another life, if reincarnation is true. Could that memory have been born in the astral and just carried back to the physical with me?

It pleases me to see how much the hard-core physicists have been turned on their ears! And with each new discovery of ever smaller particles, the confusion grows -- lovely!  :smile:

As to quantum physics, I won't begin to pretend I have any answers. But one theory is pretty interesting. It is thought now that all physical matter is about 90% empty space, filled only with electrically charged particles whirling in orbits around larger bodies. Thus, it is possible, given sufficient control of the rates of particular orbits (vibrational levels?), for humans to pass through. say, a brick wall, with no harm to either. That premise could also explain the multi-dimensional universe theories we hear about. That's a pretty cool thought!  :grin:

Major-Tom, as to life-after-death, even if the astral is real, it doesn't mean there is an afterlife. Everything we experience, physical or astral, could be nothing more than electrical impulses zipping through our brains -- ceasing to zip when we die. As I said earlier, it could well be that all our similarities arise simply because our brains are similar. On any given day I come down on both sides of that question.  Shoot, I can't even say for sure which premise I prefer!  :roll:
#63
One other time I had an OBE while fully awake. Just very suddenly I was out of my physical body, existing only as a point of reference a bit behind and above my physical body. It only lasted a few seconds. When I became aware of what was going on I was startled (oh yeah!) and popped back into my body.

So, last night I was brushing my teeth and just sort of zoning out. All of a sudden I became aware that "I" was shifting, very gradually, out of my physical body. I could feel my awareness shifting and in the mirror I could see a sort of double-image sliding to the side of the physical "me."

As usual, as soon as I became consciously aware of what was going on, it stopped.  I popped back into my body and that was the end of it.  :sad:

These incidents have shown me that a person doesn't have to be asleep, or anywhere near it, to OBE. It also makes me wonder about people who seem to be "daydreaming." Maybe they are actually having an OBE but just don't realize or remember it!

This one was not quite as intense a shock as the first, but still was pretty neat -- I had to share!  :grin:
#64
Sounds pretty neat!  :cool:

Wonder if the fish was experiencing things from your perspective?!
#65
The AlphaOmega,

You pretty well share my philosophy. The energy in our world is there for our use, for either good or evil. In itself, it is neither.

However, when you make a choice in the use of that energy, at that point you create good or evil.

A friend is not big on the words "good" and "evil." She believes we are here in the physical to learn and evolve, and if we fail, then we regress and, basically, have to repeat the course. She says if we make choices that help us evolve, then we are choosing "good." If we choose something that impedes us, that is "evil."

For myself, call it "high or low road", or "light or dark path," if you choose actions that cause unnecessary harm, then you have chosen evil.

A good example is a news story I read not too long back about a guy who caught a cat, tied it up, and put it on a charcoal grill. Neither good nor evil?

Jaclyn, you are priceless!!!!!  :lol:
#66
Runlola,

Thanks for that post -- much appreciated!  You just made my day! :grin:

Painterhypnogirl,

I actuallywas putting the shoe on your other foot when I asked if you were related to Barnum.  :lol:

Two things:

First, I meant it when I said my post was not intended to offend. I love a good discussion -- that's how you learn. If my battle flags are up (rare) you will have no doubt about it.

Second, I will not say anything on this forum I would not say if we were face to face. One of the supremely good things about this group is that we can discuss, and even disagree, and not feel "picked on."  :cool:

As to some of your other thoughts: I make no claims to be an expert, but I have assuredly tried this stuff myself. Like most on this board, I see huge possibilities and small successes. I take em as I find em!  :wink:

I need to make a distinction here, between healing and the telekinesis trick originally mentioned. Telekinesis would be involved in my broken leg example -- someone's mind would by causing the bone and muscle to move into proper alignment so healing could occur.

There is a whole broader range of healing that doesn't require telekinesis to achieve. But yet, maybe the two are intertwined somehow. (Okay, I'm rambling, sorry).

Again, I think it is great that you were able to overcome your illness. I will give you greater credit when you are able to heal others with even more serious problems, like the MS sufferer. If you have verifiable results in that arena I would seriously like to hear about it -- there is someone waiting for a cure!  :exclamation:

Lastly, I am on this board because I am an explorer. There is an excellent thread called "Agnosticism and Atheism" that is well worth visiting! You will find a bit of my philosophy there, along with many others!

In conclusion, and just IMO, I think the paper twirling deal is a trick. Others are welcome to think otherwise. In any event, have fun with it!
#67
It occurs to me I may not have paid proper attention to trees! They, too, can lift my spirits mightily. Great, grand, tall, ancient, old-growth trees! And a pox on those in our nation who are so determined to cut them all down!  :mad:
#68
Kiwibonga and James,

You sound like my kind of people. "Peace," for me, is pretty much anything in nature. Yes, the wind is lovely and can raise my spirits! Water can do the same thing, especially if it is a running stream with sand or gravel bars you can walk on. It makes me smile when I have the time and opportunity to get out in the country and watch a horse crop grass. The sight of a bird close-up, or a little furry varmint -- yep, any of those will do!

But of all things I can think of, the best by far was my visit to Muir Woods a couple of years ago. It was about this time of year. There were, of course, huge trees. But there was also running streams, lovelye ferns and mosses, sunlight filtered by mist that made the place seem like the grandest cathedral in the world. At that place and time I was so happy it was almost overwhelming.

I wonder if anyone else has been there and had that experience?

Anyway, those are my "happy triggers."  :lol:
#69
Painterhypnogirl,

No offense intended, but would you happen to be a relative of P.T. Barnum? He had a very famous quote that pretty well covers things.  :lol:

Congratulations on your asthma clearing, but that is not proof of anything. Doctors cannot say with certainty what causes it, and it is not uncommon for it to resolve on its own as a person matures.

If you could heal yourself of, say, congestive heart failure, a broken bone, or even near-sightedness, then I would pay attention. As to other claims of healing, so far as I know, there have been precious few, if any, where medical evidence existed before the cure and did not exist after.

You may want to try this.

Take a small cereal bowl and fill it about half full of water. Set the bowl on a very solid surface, like a countertop. Now take a magnetized sewing needle and spread a thin layer of Vasoline on it. Carefully float the needle onto the water in the bowl. Then take a piece of clear plastic wrap, like Cling Wrap) and put it tightly over the top of the bowl. Now, wait for the floating needle to settle into stilllness. Now, without touching any surface of bowl or countertop, "will" the needle to switch directions, either a 45 or 90 degree angle -- doesn't matter.

Needless to say, while doing the above, keep all magnets well away from the bowl and off of your person, clothes, etc.. Other than that, this one is pretty hard (not impossible) to fake.

You posts tell me two things: either someone is fooling you (shame on them), or you are trying to fool others (shame on you).

Like I said, this isn't meant as offensive or hostile. It's just one person's opinion.
#70
I am not sure what you mean by "lower your frequency." How do you do this?  :confused:
#71
Nope. What I am talking about would be an objective, quantifiable, repair of a physical problem.

I am not saying I don't believe Reiki is beneficial in some areas. But it has not been verified. These TV evangelists who claim magic healing are similar. It may make folks feel better for awhile, but in cases of genuine physical problems, it does not work.

When I was in Montana in 2004 I ran into good examples of the difference.

I have migraine or stress headaches that can really lay me out. Twice during that workshop I had them start up and two people were able to do a healing and get rid of them. Okay, so I know the healing worked. But it was subjective, not objective. I may have just been stressed and the healing calmed me.

Bottom line, we had a lady in Montana with MS and she still had it when she left. Many people there did their best to heal her. If telekinesis or Reiki, or any other healing method, were a reality, that lady would have gone home healthy! That would have been a verified result.

My hope is that all of us who are exploring these paths are on the way to better abilities. Perhaps we will get there when we attain the ethical sense to know how to use them!  :confused:
#72
Jimi,

First off, congratulations on what sounds like a really neat experience!  :smile:  Don't analyze it too closely. Just try and recreate it!

As to your wind being "astral wind," I would have to say probably not, at least as it has been described by Robert Bruce (or was it Monroe?). Anyway, that description seemed to be not so much a sound as a force that just grabbed them while they were in the astral. RB said it was said it was an irrestible pull that grabbed everyone in the astral at the time and they could do nothing about it. He went on to describe what happened, but that is the part about the wind.

I am pretty sure the description is in Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics book, but I can't recall if he is describing his experience or quoting Monroe.
#73
Beth, I have a question.

In your post you keep talking about the Hebrew Bible. What are you referring to? The "Hebrew Bible" is the Torah, I thought. And that document (book, whatever) predates the Bible by a few thousand years as I understand it. Christianity's Bible took much of the Jewish material, which is only natural. Whether Judaism incorporated any Pagan rituals into their belief system I can't say. Does anyone have any examples of this?

As to Christianity, it is unarguable that many of the holidays and such are rooted in the Pagan belief system. That was done in an effort to stamp out those earlier religions.

Did you know that the Romans, Greeks, etc. did exactly the same thing, with total success, to the Druid religion? What rituals the Druids practiced were overwritten by Pagan (Roman) rituals. Their efforts were so successful that no one today has any genuine idea of what the Druids were all about. We have only what has been created by the New Age folks and what small snippets leak through from early Roman historians.

If I recall correctly, Judaism is among the first religions, though not absolutely the earliest. I think the teachings of Zoroaster hold that title. By the way, Zoroaster taught the existence of just one God, and the other precepts of that faith are remarkably similar to Christianity's core belief.

I am not picking on you. This is just a subject I love to discuss. I don't think anyone will ever get it exactly right, but we can only profit by exploring the views of others.

By the way, an interesting quote from the Genesis creation story: And "God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." Note the use of the plural, which is consistent through most of the Bible translations I have seen. So that means the Trinity existed before time. Or that means that there is more than one God. Or we don't have a clue what it really means!  :wink:

As to Mormonism, I can't say I care for their efforts to deify the human physical body. We are, or should be, so much more than that!
#74
Jeff, you nailed it!  :lol:

People, if telekinesis were real, do you realize we could cure cancer, heart disease, set broken bones, straighten crooked spines, cure blindness, etc.!

I am not saying we won't be able to do these things one day, but it hasn't happened yet (Bible notwithstanding)!  :wink:
#75
Catmeow, In addition to Skropenfield's examples, I believe there have been other occurrences as well. According to articles I've read in the past couple of years. Scientists are just beginning to study this kind of thing.

Did you know that, by stimulating certain parts of the brain with electrodes, scientists have caused rats to eat themselves to death? Or, in the reverse, they have shut off the hunger signal and the mice won't eat at all. If memory serves, use of magnets on particular areas of the brain has caused temporary blindness.

My point is that this study comes closer to proving OBE exists than otherwise. Everything we experience, including sight, speech, dreaming, mobility, etc. is caused by impulses from some area of the brain. Therefore, this result goes far toward showing OBE is a real event.

TVoS, you have done it again. Nice post and keep up the good work!