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#51
I believe no one can say whit certainty that the bible is the word of god, for the simple reason there is no proof of that, it could have been written by a few intelligent men. Still it could be partly true or who knows maybe it was inspired by a "god", there is enough between heaven and earth for the possibility that it was influenced by an outside source.

I think there is a real possibly Jesus existed, but I doubt it was the person who died on the cross described in the bible, I think he was a wise person trying to help others. I think your right to think the story of Jesus the person is probable changed a lot and used by Church for their own benefit.

I think a god could exist, it hasn't god anything to do whit the bible, Christianity doesn't have monopoly on god, but I think the term god has been misused a lot. Would you call life force (the driving force behind all life) god or is god the being who created the universe, should these two have the same name?
#52
OMG! I totally didn't notice! What a waste of time! [:O]
#53
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Tell me...would you be so willing to step into a physical alien spacecraft on trust alone?

Perhaps. Probably not though.

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And in a more down to Earth sense, would you be willing to leave you front door open and let any stranger in off the street?

No, because unlike whit the aliens ill know what the strangers will do, they will robe my of everything in my house! [:P]
#54
I really want to hear an opinion of a woman about this, this should be interesting. [:D]

[EDIT: Ah nay already posted, so I was not wrong in thinking this was ridiculous advice? I thought so, but a man should never presume he knows the ladies, so you never know it could have been true [;)]]
#55
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Originally posted by Gwathren

I guess everyone has an opinion...



Yes and if you don't want to hear them you (This in a general sense, but it reads easier when "you" is "he") shouldn't ask for it, so what's your point?


I agree whit rantboi. When you have the right state of conscious, intention, skill (techniques, control and experience) you can make changes in reality, the right use of words and the way to pronounce them can help you to achieve this, but words have no power on their own.

I'm not going to grade the site as it would surely disappoint you, but I hope he takes rantboi advice and investigate what magic really is, I might bring him many new things of interest.
#56
I don't think your definition of immortality is possible, we are from flesh and blood and if the body is wounded to the point it can no longer sub stain life, I find it hard to belief you can focus so much energy to heal it almost instantly without losing the bond between you soul (astral body, spirit etc, the part of you that incarnates) and body.

I do however believe you MIGHT be able to stop the aging process, to do this you would have to keep the body in prime health were the body regenerates fast enough to stop the aging process.

The question is how you can accomplish this. We know that there are techniques for longevity, so that would be a good starting point.  

A few thoughts on how to accomplish immortality.

If every cell in the body is somehow kept in life because of energy (what I suspect) is it possible to manipulate energy on such a deep level? If so do you need to instruct the flow precisely to every cell, can someone even accomplish such focus? And would you have to keep this focus up the continuously, would this be possible?

The body has many chemicals working to keep it healthy, would it be needed to control these and which ones? Could herbal alchemy help whit this?

And most important question is, is there anything known on how to accomplish immortality?

(Be aware I'm working on  a lot of assumptions!)  
#57
Ha! I bet you didn't use the search did ya, no worry, I know the post that would answer most of the questions you could have!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1832
#58
I went thru this myself; you begin to have heavy doubts and don't really know what you should belief. I remember before it I ran in circles replacing belief whit belief, although there were times when I didn't even realize I did, it kinda sneaked in sometimes and I didn't want to admit it. (As I believed in knowing and not believing.) After awhile I began to be very confused about what I should belief, and at the same time I realized that all kind of beliefs had sneaked into my mind. I think after my heavy confusion returned me to a point were I regained (perhaps truly for the first time) a more open-minded neutral stance on things.  

I'm sure Ill have to stay alert not to have beliefs sneak into my mind again, but I think this process of change towards knowing over believing is a good thing.

James already recommended you read the catch basket concept, I advice you to put some thought into this concept, because ultimately it leads to more freedom and peace, and without building up the weight of belief you have a greater opportunity to grow spiritually.

From this point you can make investigate into whatever topic/system you think will benefit your growth and sounds logical enough to warrant your effort to finding out its value.
#59
Perhaps to post it in public was not the most polite thing to do, but I'm glad you did, the post had a lot of value both in what it said and the reaction it provoked. For this reason I'm generally in favor to have things in the open, even at the risk of having thing getting out of hand. Although I can think of situations where it would be better to handle things in private, but I don't think that was case this time, as your post said what a lot of us are thinking.
#60
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The forums are like a training ground to learn and share experiences, while attempting to keep a un-biased and skeptical outlook on things. For me however it is difficult now too determine the true limits of what is humanly possible, and also makes my skepticism shrivle into near nothingness (which I hear is the path towards everlasting enlightenment)(that and being a wordsmith).


While it may be possible there isn't much that isn't possible, there are limits to what we can accomplish in this moment, in the future people may be able to fly, but it's not probable that anyone could at this very moment in time. Then there are sure to be universal laws limits of some sort, a kind of order, it's for us to find out what it is and how it affects us. It is of vital important you remain skeptical as not to get stuck in delusion, but at the same time we should stay open-minded, not an easy task. Life is a learning experience, what we need to learn may seem to be have no orderly thought behind it, why are some drawn to spiritual enlightment, while others are not, but it think ultimately when people are ready spiritually to maturity, they are drawn to it, just as you are.

This site gives many things to many people, for me it has lend itself to me to learn a lot about belief, I learned from the advice people gave me and the discussions I took part and especially learned from the mistakes I made in them.

I'm glad to hear the forum is a valuable place for you. I agree it is kinda like a prayer of good fortune, because a post like yours is not such a common thing.
#61
The best lie is the one closest to the truth, this is how Mayatnik works. Whit a little exaggeration and subtle manipulation of the facts he makes it look like a great injustice has been done to him and his partners. It sounds very reasonable for people who are not fully aware of the facts or have the desire to belief him.

It does make you think why such a person is channeling, why he is chosen. This doesn't mean what he does is a hoax, he could just be a human being caught up in his faults without realizing it, but it is something to take into consideration.

And nay, I want to say you had every right to say what you did, you said in all honesty and it is not Mayatnik's place to judge you.

Akensain Love and Light, just from me, [;)]
Akensai  
#62
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Yeah, they set up a thread to help people understand the bigger picture by answering people's questions, whether it was real or not is irrelavant, they just wanted to help with whatever info they could give out in hopes that open-minded folk would listen, or enjoy the story, then they get attacked over and over by paranoid folk for no real good reason other then to be annoying, or beat their hairy simian chests in some stupid immature proving grounds of trying to debunk some paranoid neg belief, (entirely off-topic, and no one really cared, so stfu please), then of which like half of the posts weren't even serious or on-topic, then they leave because you guys insist on being so negative, rude, and trying to prove whatever so and so, then you guys whine like babies because they left....yeah, I don't blame them for getting ticked and leaving......


I do blame them for not being honest!

And I blame you for having a black and white view and in this case only black!
#63
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"The site that, on the wishes of our guides, we were channelling on was controlled by a large majority following of Robert Bruce the writer of 'Psychic Defence' and other books, and Bruce was the founder of the that site, the Astral Pulse. There was massive, rampant negativity on that site and fear underlined everything in the way that members thought there, fear of 'negs', fear of 'spirits' in general, mistrust of all that would seem to challenge the beliefs of Robert Bruce's teachings. So, it became obvious to us that those attacks would continue unabated – and for that reason our guides told us that channelling was to be withdrawn from that site. There was no more we could do there, since our guides' message of Love was not being listened to. Channeling is for <information>, not to be 'believed' but to be openly and positively discussed to gain a higher perception of the reality of things. When minds are closed then there can be no growth. So, it was that we were brought to this site here, the Spiritual Oracle."



OMG! What a generalization!    I'm sure in fact that they got a lot of support and reasonable questions here - that didn't necessary came influenced by Robert Bruce belief system (Did he even gave us a belief system?!?) - , but now they are putting down the whole astral pulse, I feel betrayed!

And they didn't even let us know they left or why, we had to hear it read on another forum, while they were putting us down! Such impoliteness!
#64
Well that's just weak, enough people supporting them to continue, but I guess whiteout the total devotion of the entire astral pulse they won't go on.  

I think at times to there was indeed too much complaining about this channeling's, but now they are making it sound that everyone was against them. I guess they just couldn't take the heat and ran out of the kitchen.
#65
I think most people do not so much disagree if god exist, but more on what god wants us to do.
#66
There is something that supports all existence, I'm sure of that, so if you call that god than yes I belief in it. If you mean the Christian Created; (Creator) God then I'm not sure, there could be a god(or beings) that made us, very likely I think, but I doubt it is the way (at the very least not exactly) how the bible says it is.

And think we have the tools to find out the reality of the universe and or if god exist, and whit the right effort we can find out the truth about god, but I'm sure its not easy, at least not as easy as just having blind belief in the bible.
#67
I'm also wondering what Robert is up to lately (well we know he has a workshop coming up, in the USA unfortunately though), would be nice if he would show his face a bit more often in the forums and tell us what he is up to. [:)]  

#68
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Confusion.
March 08, 2004, 10:00:53
I think part of my problem is I would want to follow an ultimate teaching and work at that, but it doesn't work that way. That's why I'm going to try to take my life one step at a time, no grant plan, but verify things step by step. Not that easy, because when the next truth of the day comes around I'm always tempted, and think: what if this true, what if it really is like this then I should prepare myself for...... or else ....... This has happened a few times now, but I always begin doubting it and after awhile I get disappointed whit it altogether, because it can't be proven and is conflicting whit the new truth of the day.

Another thing I'm sometimes afraid to try things for myself for the implied dangers something's have, take these changelings for example, I would love to try and get one myself, to see if it is really the way it is portrait, but when I hear it can go really wrong I think never mind, and then I'm still stuck whit believing or not whiteout knowing.

Then what should I do? Who should I trust? My feelings, but how are they right? My "intuition", but where does that come from?      

I know there are always risks and I should really just overcome this fear and have a little courage in life. I'm trying!
#69
I think the problem is you won't find many more people than those who are already concerned whit this. I simply think most people are not ready for this kind of commitment, because they are still to much caught up in the game of the masses.

You try to learn people moral virtue, but if they won't listen nothing will happen. That's why I think it is better to make a strong argument to people why they need to change their life on a personal bases, because when they immediately benefit from your teachings personally, by leading a moral and spiritual life, they automatically become aware of the futility of war and human suffering on the planet.  

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"Give a person a loaf of bread and you feed that person for a day. Teach the person how to make bread and you feed that person for life."

Wasn't this fish and fishing ? [:)]
#70
I still think people are exaggerating this, and I also think this is this is part of the reason why this forum has problems. When some one start yelling that the forum is gone downhill he is sure to find some support making it seem like almost everyone thinks so, and thereby ruining the mood of the forum.

I don't deny there are problems here that were not here in the past, but things change you can't go back to what it was, things have gotten bigger, and it is because people have a need for a place to discus things, all "un-worldly" things. I'm sure you all know forums where you post something and no one replies, because no one there to reply, because the forum is complete disserted. This is place is great because you can discus anything and know that you get response to it to. You get a great variance of post, some cleaver, some funny, some provoking, but in the end it does give you something to think about. When this forum losses this, it becomes a rather useless place.

I'm of the opinion when someone doesn't like a forum (religion, channeling etc) he just stays out of it. This way you don't have complained about those "stupid" (matter of opinion) ki, channeling, and demon war topics. This would solve part of the problem.    

There are however some problems that need to be addressed.

1)   The attitude of the people on this forum being very offensive at times (on parts of the site)
2)   Useless topics.
3)   Lack of debt in some post.

These problems whit the exception from the last can be solved whit stricter moderating.

The last is a problem that should be solved by ourselves, by giving a good example.  

An interesting discussion would be how strict the moderation of the forum has to be, and which other things can the moderators do to improve the situation on the forum. (For example: FAQ topics?)  

quote:
Rather then just complain and theorize about why things have gone bad, I'm going to try and find the time to do more metaphysical study and post some new and hopefully interesting things. And I think that if everybody who thinks the forum has gone downhill does the same things will improve a lot.

Exactly!!
#71
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 05, 2004, 15:21:03
You seem to think I 'm against your channeling, but I'm not. I have my doubts and sometimes I try to give some logical criticism, but you don't seem to respond well to it or perhaps it was because my earlier commends being unpleasant(?), I don't remember them anymore, and my opinion is liable to change quick. [:)]

Oh and apologies accepted! [;)]
#72
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Confusion.
March 05, 2004, 14:46:40
Thanks for the advice guys, I feel better now.

Nothing more to do than move on I guess.

quote:
The Lazy man's Guide to Enlightment

Perfect for me! [:D]


#73
I'm not a Christian myself, but I will try to find so common ground between us, so I can answer your question.

God is the highest existence, as a Christian you would agree on that. There is nothing higher, nothing more than god. Then "we are god" simply means we are PART of god. If god was a large sea and we are but one wave on that sea, the wave is part of the sea, but different also, this is us, a wave on the sea of existence. Perhaps we are not even the wave, but only the very top of it and what lies between the deep sea of existence and the very top of this wave? What leis between haven and earth? I don't know. Can any on earth really know?

I dare say no one can! We know only very little, some more than other. Here I think it's helpful if you read Robert Bruce - <Ahttp://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_44.htm> The Catch Basket Concept. In short belief in what you actually know.

Do you know god, you don't. What do you know of the bible? This is a most important question. If you belief in the bible you need to know why. I'm not going to attack any of your beliefs and I won't mention what I think of the bible either, but I want to say that when you belief something you have to come to know what you belief or it will be just blind belief. Your belief in the bible should only be if you know that every word it contains can indeed be tested for truth.

The bible contains much wisdom on how to lead you life, do you live by these words. If you do, have they brought you what they said they would. IF so then you already tested part of the bible.

I think there are 3 parts of the bible.

1)   History.
2)   Rules and advice on how to live.
3)   Prophesy.

History you cannot test, agrological and historical research is not reliable enough to take it as a fact.

The second you can test! By living by the rules and advice the bible brings. "By their fruits you shall know them" Do the rules and advice in the bible brings you good fruits, does it bring you a joyful living, does it bring you fulfillment?  I can not answer this for you, but this is a question you should ask yourself in all honesty.

Prophesy. This is where things get complicated; you cannot test this just like history, but is far more important as deals whit YOUR future. You follow the bible, because what it says about the god and the future. It tell you what the future brings you when you follow its words, but you cannot test them, it is faith. Again nothing wrong whit faith, but you must ask yourself; does the bible answer my question about life in a satisfying way? I cannot answer this for you, but this too is a question you should ask yourself in all honesty.  

When you have answered your questions, you will know if you rightfully doubted your religion or not.

Regarding astral travel and focus level, Belief System Territory.

The same goes for these things as for the bible, you have test them. Don't belief any of it just because it is written in a book. However there is reason to belief it could be true? IF you think so you go and test them. Astral travel you can learn (guides and books enough about it), if you made this step and you confirmed that astral is true you can test the focus level, Belief System Territory. This will indeed take some time, but should not be impossible. (if so than you have answer to your question none the less)

First you take knowledge > then you logically think about it, you see if it is logical in reference whit what you already know Then when you think something is possible.(You take in account the possible dangers whit testing)  > you test it. If it holds true than you truly know.

This is your tool for finding out the answers to your questions.

The last thing I want to say is; "seek and ye shall find", is absolutely true, you have make effort to find the answers and the will come. (But don't have to much expectation on when, these things don't come over night.)
#74
QuoteOriginally posted by Mustardseed

Only a few comments.....would you mind to make your comments in another colour, not to confuse things. I will, but you must understand i didn't choose blue to make it look like your god channeling, but i can see now how this could look like that. I see no need to answer your post. In all honesty I think you would jump on any bandwagon as long as it would be against me.........so be my guest, come on my friend give it your best shot. What a strange thing to say, I have nothing against you! I let you know my view on things, as is my right, that is all! IMHO This thread is silly in its entirety, I think even you can see that.....so I will let you discuss on without me. Perhaps not that silly, but do as you wish.
#75
QuoteOriginally posted by Mustardseed



(1) The texts in the Bible need interpretation all the time. says who?  Me! Every age is different, we need to see what is written in the context of when it was written and by whom and in what context he meant it. This is not only hard I would say impossible, but that is a matter of opinion. It is also possible this is already done in the past, and then it's even harder as we are doing an interpretation of an interpretation.  
Even if it is written "to be put to death", it is not written who is carrying out the sentence.yes it was, the congregation was clearly expected to do this
I view things as God would take care of everything and of the sentence too.
ok that's your opinion but not the old testament, they had judges and executioners  The old testament is no longer valid except as history, this is what is written in the bible is it not? Then it seems strange to me you make use of it for an argument.
Now also to be put to death does not need to be a physical death, it could be a spiritual death where the person does not evolve to the upper spiritual plane, but rather stagnates at the same or lower level
makes no sense at all, it is a punishment, not self imposed I agree that would seem strange indeed, but not for the reason mustardseed holds. It is strange that god would hold anyone back to better himself.

(2) I have also chosen texts from the Bible since the way MS expresses his channeling is very much the same, this is why I have brought back these texts, as they are quite similar in their form to the texts of MS. MS has added some more eastern views please explain this further, this seems like an allegation, and you might want to remember that the Bible was not written in USA but in the middle east and does not stand for western views  This could also be explained by the coloring the channel does whit the received message, in this case mustardseeds study of the bible could give "gods" message somewhat the same style. too such as the "lost of ego" to find God, together with the NDE view of Pure Love, which is also one of the eastern tradition which is reached by meditation. All what is in the Bible goes back to the same "do not do to others what you don't want others to do to you".that quote is not in the bible but is accredited to Confucsious, the Bible says "DO unto others what you would want them to DO unto you" a subtle but clear difference There is a difference, but this could easily have been caused by play of words. (early translations, interpretations)
It is also that same attitude that meditative enlightment (again in the east) reaches for. I see all Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed,... as enlightened people who had reached a higher spirituality and all of them chose their way to "transmit" (or "channel" if you prefer) their spiritual learning one way or another with different text, tradition, cults, practices...I never said that, nor claimed that nor did I ever indicate I have reached any such "higher level", you are putting words in my mouth  This however doesn't go whit how the bible current teachings as some of those tradition do have some big differences whit the bible! So it would be strange for mustard seed to claim any of such.

(3) Let the one who never sinned throw the first stone.
my point exactly so remember you were the one to threaten with the stoning and I merely questioned that attitude and asked if you were without sin, anyway you are mixing up the new and old testament
So you can wait quite a long to be lapidated, as new borns are pretty bad at throwing stones..........? I do quote other things on different threatsthreads I think it must be[;)]... but here I thought that the Old Testament would suit rather well to the situation. As I wrote in (1) : it all needs interpertation.

Kerrblur, you are having pleasure in mocking me... it seemed that you were actually taking pleasure in mocking ME, maybe you were just trying to be helpful?

My simple concern was (and stil is, even if I am going to stop debating about it) that on these forum, it is very easy to write anything and you will always have some people believing in that. It is like the aliens thing... you started the thread[:)]  Nothing wrong whit people believing things, just as you are entitled to make a counter argument against what happens on these forums. This should be in balance. As long as both views of things both remain visible for everyone to see, everyone can make a fairly informed decision about things.

For my part, I am like St Thomas, who believes only in what he sees (or what he sens)wrong again it is only seeing if you allow yourself to be led by other senses, you are by definition "spirituallt inclined". I am rational, extremely rational. [:P].......uhhh....ok if you say so  Part of seeing things is knowing where to look.
And so far on this whole forum with its thousands of posts, I haven't seen any evidence of anything, except the "law of the bla-bla-blah", to which I am hapily taking part ! in this actual moment.  The thing is, it's for you to find out, no one is obligated to give you any evidence, and furthermore these things are not easily proven this is how it goes for thousand of years now.

So, can you view me here going around in this forum and being extremely skeptical of everything, being rational, being scientist,.... Who is burning, really? I am completely translucid and at most I get in hoter discussions only invovling politics rather than involving Religion or the paranormal... Haven't you noticed yet?  Because, also, after all, that is the only way you can go around in that kind of forum, it is not to get personnaly involved and not to take anything personnally. [:)]odd statement......you seem to take most things very personaal. Your thoughts also seem to be very confused and slightley muddled up.....  You on the other hand Mustardseed seem to be very relaxed lately. [:)]  Everything is always personal, well that's what I personally think, you can attack me on this personally to! [;)]

No, MS I am not a fool to give you my email address... Do you think I am that dum?! I already get enought junk mail and viruses here. Didn't you have also a post asking how one can access the site as "anonymous"? Why did you ask that? Do you think I belong to the people who are most of them teenagers? Is that what you think I am and that you can address me and convince me in the same manner? and your sense of humour is pretty badly shot......you dumbfound me[;)]  This wasn't meant as humor or was it [?] Anyway there are pretty good spam filters nowadays, you should think about getting one!

Don't worry, I will not take your "show" away from you, not steal your show or anything like that. I just a visitor here, passing by, not intending to take roots here or to impose anything on anyone. not "my show" but feel free, however my observation would be that you would have a hard time "stealing the show" as you put it, seeing you misunderstand so many things  Don't go away if you think you still have something to say, take roots here if you want, it's a nice place to do so! And your stealing no ones show, there is no show!

LIfe is elsewhere, not on the web... life is there in the street, at home, at school, ahhhhh...now that makes sense[;)]at work,... but not here. Here it is a virtual reality! only virtual.... Still a reality none the less, and no less important either. Key word is moderation of course; keep every aspect of life in balance whit each other.

SO long !

ok so long Shaman have a nice day my friend, and work on that sense of humour a bit......[;)]......sometimes reading something funny will help, jokes articles and even some threads on the AP....like this one[:)]  Are you really the one to talk ? [:P]

So long !