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quote:A lot, if not all people, have a shield, whether they're psion or not

There. So it's not you, they all have a shield. And as I said, don't look for just shields, but look for the more complicated ones. [^]

quote:Originally posted by Silocon

quote:Originally posted by Kato

Some demons are evil and some are not. Never temp demons because as a master of fighting demons will chalenge you.

So in otherwords your saying don't 'tic' them off?Well I just need to get this out,so I can understand it more:Demons can not be seen yet they can still harm you?And one more thing how do I 'tic' off a demon,I mean why would I want to bother a demon,I just want to understand life more and how it works not to fight,and how can you fight something that can only be seen with your third eye?Thanks in return.[]

No, you cannot see them, unless you go to the astral plane or something, but they are still able to harm you, and you are still able to harm them, even if you can't see them. How? Psionically. A lot of demons, if not all, have strong Psionic abilities.
But be careful. They may be not 'evil' but a lot have a short temper.

Sargon, you are aiming at the Demons from the Bible there, not the Astral ones. I don't know why they called the Astral ones demons, maybe because some of them look rather.. eh, unpleasant.

Silocon, why would we need to fight demons? If it ever comes to a fight, you will only be able to fight one with some strong willpower and psionic skills.

We are not chosen to fight them, or, there's no proof for that yet. I don't see why we should be fighting demons, since God created them as good as He created us. There are a lot of 'dimensions', 'planes', whatever you want to call them. On the Astral plane, you can find demons. On this plane here, you can find humans, etc. I don't think God created the Astral and it's habitants so that we can kill them.

Did I say I believe everything I read? You apparently do, since you claim you read prophecies about the demonwar. Also, you have read about all sort of kiblasts and such, and you believed them, that is clear, or else you wouldn't be 'training' them.
I have done this research to find out more about it instead of drawing random conclusions.

Oh, shut up you. You're *very* annoying, you know that, don't you?

Anyhow. General-Army, join the club. []
I had the same problem with shielding. And still sometimes have.

It took me half an year, if it wasn't more, before I could do a decent shield without feeling the need to lie down and sleep till the end of time. I started taking it reaaaaaally slowly. Not only did shielding completely drain me, I also sucked at it. I just made small shields, very small, with very few energy, and started building that up; that way I was sure I wasn't pumping all energy in my shield.

Try to make really small psiballs, with very few energy. The next day, use some more energy, etc. See if that works. It may take time, but worth it. Constructbuilding is fun. Don't let those psiballs prevent you from some other training though, like I don't know, Telepathy or whatever you are interested in, but don't overdo it too much either.

A lot of people find it easier to keep their hands near the object that should be moved. I'm not one of them, for me it does not matter. I don't know why it is, but try putting your psiwheel under a glassjar and try it again, without putting your finger/hands there. Then try with your hand/finger near and see if there's any difference and what you find the easiest to do.

Psions are hard to notice. I'm experiencing the same thing as you. It has only happened once or twice that I knew absolutely for sure that a guy/girl was practising Psionics. Why or how I knew that, I really don't know.

I usually do this to try and figure out if somebody is a Psion, though even then I'm never sure about it:
I start looking for shields. A lot, if not all people, have a shield, whether they're psion or not, so look for the more stronger and complicated shield. Of course, even then you'll never know for sure, but you may bump into something interesting. Also, bored Psions like to play with constructs at school. Most Psions I know have told me that and I am one of those persons who create random constructs in class. Try searching for constructs in your school, and retrieve the psisig. Then start looking for the person with that psisig. In a bored class, I like to practice shielding or Telepathy. Last day I tried to cloak myself, or I start pinging random person, or broadcast that there's an horrible evil alien sitting next to me (nobody then will sit next to me, though they don't know why they don't want to. I love that, and it's handy too, since my class consist of the biggest morons this planet has ever had the honor to know). Try to find some of those thingies, like telepathic broadcasts, etc. Scan random people, and see if they react on it, maybe by looking around and shielding. There are 1001 possibilities to try and find out if somebody is practising psionics or not.

That's what I do.. Hope it works as good for you as for me. Note that, even if I was absolutely sure that somebody was a Psion, I never asked him/her about it. Don't ask why, I don't even know myself. ^.^"

Nobody can really go slow or fast in training. The trainingtime depends on every person. The first time I tried to make a Psiball, I did it the very first time succesfully. However, I've been practising Astral Projection for over a year now, and I still can't really do it. I *can* do it occasionaly, mostly when my boyfriend is with me (weird.. [XX(] ) It took me two months before I succeeded in Telekinesis, but two days for Aerokinesis. I never managed to do Pyrokinesis, though I can do a bit of Cryokinesis. I have never really had a hard time with programming a construct, except shelling. It took me 3-4 months before I succeeded in shelling a construct.

Go compare this with somebody else. You will see how many differences there are in trainingtime to succeed. Just take your time, and take it easy. Try to meditate before trying to do an exercise, it helps to calm and focus your mind. Before trying to create that Chiball, try Grounding, that may help as well. Take your time and don't get frustrated or irritated when something doesn't work out as you wanted it to.

Good luck.

quote:Originally posted by Follower of the Khuli

Thank you kakkarot and vikram you guys truly know what is happening to the species.

Although I must say that actually we are no smarter than our ancestors.  Our IQs are no larger. The only difference is that we have organized education for the masses, which I might add is very selective in its teaching.  Their is a difference between ignorance and stupidity.  Actually, their were more literate people in the 1800's then there are today (History Channel).  If you brought a child from 5,000 years ago to present when he was still an infant and put him in school like all the other kids than he would be typing up posts and listening to the latest Bow Wow cd... sorry, I don't know what came over me.

People think they are so tough now.  How about you guys try working on a farm.  You know doing some actually challenging work and see how strong you feel (disregard that statement to those of you that actually work on a farm, I'm just talking to the majority of people).

Kakkarot is right, there is no adversity in society today.  There is no character defining experiences.  Most people are just lazy punks who dream a whole lot and then do nothing or they do something and make a fish tale out of it.

Spiritually advance, hah!!  Just because you do a couple ki balls, meditate once a week, and try to open your third eye doesn't make you strong.  Oh, and that limit break crack with the 1940's people and the germans, what the hell was that.  I think a couple limit breaks aren't going to make a difference when it comes to someone blowing your guts out the back of your butt.  Ki is not some almighty tool that prevents people from dying horrible deaths in times of strife.  It is a practice, a lifestyle, a commitment for improvement of one's own self.  It is not a ticket to immortality, to invinciblity, and to a absolutely easy existance.  What did you expect the people to do, just throw off their weighted clothes and fly away.  Not everyone has the time to train in the art of ki.  Some people actually have to grow food, and make clothes, and build houses, so you can have the time to practice such things.

Sorry about that, that statement just really made me angry.

Finally, there is no argument left here.  Once you guys grow up and become an adult and actually have to get a job, get kids, and all the other responsiblities, then you will see what I am talking about.  Soon your limitless time pool will dry up and you will have to wake from your dream of might is right.  You will actually witness the unfiltered existance that is mankind and you will see how weak we have become.

*bows* Thank you so much. I did not have the courage or patience to tell them that for the 217821782791 time.

Neo, we are not forcing our opinions on you. Absolutely not. In fact, it's more than an opinion, it seems everybody here has proof for what he/she is saying, except for you. I did a lot of research on those prophecies and believe me, no word says something about demons. Not even the Bible. And if you decide not to believe me on that one, then get your butt in the library (library! not internet!), and get some books about, for example Muhliasl and Nostradamus, and read the Bible (or re-read it, if you already read it). You will see what I mean. I'm not saying the prophecies are so friendly towards the future, hell according to Muhliasl there will be, in 2012, a big battlefield near a river, where a lonely tree stands, so he says, and fire from the sky, etc etc. I can fit everything that he says in the technology humans have; fire from the sky could easily be bombs, for example. Yes, I am convinced that there IS a war coming, whatever everybody or the prophecies say. I am convinced that there will be a war, between humans, and possibly WWIII. I see the world as it is now and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm right.
Please care for that instead of some stupid demonwar. Please care for the people who have died and will probably die because of human's idiocy. Care for the problems in the world you are living in.

Oh, shut up Neo, for once. My patience ends _here_ *points at limitline*. I thought we talked and I thought you believed me. You had absolutely no argument for your demon war, and now you're saying 'our generation' is 'strong' because of the bonking demon war. My friend, if God would have granted us 'this power' you speak of to beat demons' asses, may I please remind you that in that case it would be demons from Hell, and that in this case we are talking about ASTRAL demons. You can say whatever you want, but you ARE talking about the astral ones. Every demonwarbeliever is and is actually acknowledging it. Plus, damnit, God created everything. EVERYTHING. Including every single Bible-and-Astral-demon existing. Maybe not directly, but He did. AND, he's almighty, so says the Bible, so if he is, I am sure He's able to take out some assy demons Himself. As if He would use kids like you to whipe demons' asses.
Now, on to the 'strength' of 'our generation'. 'Our generation' is compared to the old generations, and I'm talking about the very old generation, bonking weak. Most knowledge that was once known has been lost. We are children, children playing with fire. Especially guys like YOU, Neo, you can't do excrement, know nothing, and have absolutely no sense of logic or objectivity. You and many others. And you just proved that AGAIN by creating this bonking thread.

And yes, I AM in a bad mood.

quote:Originally posted by Mustardseed

In my humble "belieforiented" opinion........watch out whose advice you follow!!!! . Many people come across very cocky and selfconfident and pontificate about things they have not got the faintest idea about. No offence to anybody, but a lot is second hand knowledge. It stands to reason that if you are not sure .....be careful. I will tell you what I have experienced based on my reality and experience, that is, if you are interested.
Regards Mustardseed

I am sincerely hoping you are not aiming this post to me. If you are, then it might be a good idea to tell you that all the information I post are my own experience, and if it isn't, I always say that.
But in general, I entirely agree with you. ^.^

I do not really know how comes. Maybe it's like a mental block; you believing you can't manipulate as much energy as you used to could be the cause. Try starting from scratch. Just pretend you haven't been training for 2,5 years, and start doing the basic thingies again. Perhaps after three, four weeks of doing basic stuff, you will get your 'abilities' 'back'.. I don't know if it will work, but it's worth the try though..

After 3 months you're still a newbie. Hell, people who are practising for over a year are still considered newbie's. It is possible that you are having a burn-out. In any case, stop practising for awhile. Really, or else you will regret. It will not get better if you do not rest, it will only get worse; whether it's due to your training, a burn-out or because an illness is of none importance.

If you don't want to take my advice, fine, go ahead. But do not tell us we did not warn you afterwards, or blame us for the consequences.

How Fat_Turkey knows that the whole world used to know about it? Because it is that way. If you go look through the history of ancient cultures, old manuscripts, etc etc, you will find your proof. As a start point, try the ancient Egyptians. Or simply the Bible; in there you will find thousand and one things that can be related to, for example, Magic. The western world decided that everything that cannot be seen or exactly been calculated with a formula is not true, not real. If you think we, in this age, are the ones who found out about it, you're sadly wrong.
Furthermore, the power that what-its-name is seeking = corruption. He wants, like many others, be able to do destructive things with 'mega ki blasts'.
I would love to write more but I have to go to school. I will continue when I get back.

Why don't you ask the webmaster about it, maybe he thinks it's a good idea as well and will upload the program.

Seriously Foas, you tell the guy to stop the dbz? I think he's one of the few here who started out correctly. Meditation is not absolutely needed for training, it only helps with calming your mind. With a calm mind it's easier to achieve something. That's why some people like to meditate before training. I'm not very fond of meditation, and only do it when I really feel to. And that's probably less than once a month. And I'm still alive.

Faithkinesis, from what you told us, it sounds like you're having the what people call 'newbie burnout'. Stop training for a week of 2, continueing training won't do you anything good. If you want, you could meditate as Foas suggested.

Did I miss something again? O.o

Maybe... But I know guys who create viruses and spread them via kazaa and stuff... They do it for the kick.. Just like most hackers and crackers hack/crack for the kick.. ^.^

The fish who lives deep under water cannot go to the surface because they are built to live under high pressure with few O2. Their way to get food are all build on where they live. They would not survive at the surface. The fish deep down are strange built because that's the only way to survive.
The fish at the surface cannot live deeper, because they are built to survive with less pressure than can be found deeper in the ocean and need more O2 than can be found deep. There's no 'barrier'; it's they way they are built that creates the 'barrier'.

We humans cannot live in water, because we simply are not built for it. Nor can we live high up the sky, because we cannot handle the cold, we cannot get food, we cannot breath there. Same goes for the fish.

Demons in legends, myths and the Bible are banned to the depts of the ocean because humans knows less about the bottom of the ocean than the moon or any other planet in our solarsystem. It's something unknown: and what is the best place to ban something we are afraid of to somewhere we do not know about?

Scorpio here. *hugs all scorpio's* []

Exorcism? I'm no 'exorcist' but I have had experiences with 'possesions', and demon-related problems. I personally, from what you said till now, don't believe she is possesed. I would love to hear more about it.. Any other symptoms? Does this feeling happen when it's light or dark? Or if she's alone? Where is this pressure-like feeling, all over the body or on a certain place? Please tell everything you can come up with. I would love to help, but I first have to see what it is and if I'm able to help.

Lol, thanks. ^.^ I know those, I have read them at Psipog too... Thanks anyway. [:X]

I consider three of my friends as my best friends. I can share everything with them. Two of them are male, one is female. I am a girl, btw.

I have never had any feelings for both of my male best friends, and they have neither. And we will probably never have either. When friendship gives birth to a relationship, the friendship will fade, even when the relationship has been broken up. 'We will still be friends'. Everybody knows that's bovine excrement. A girl cannot stay the good friends with a guy like before the relationship, nor can vice versa. That's why a choice has to be made when building up a friendship with somebody from another gender than your own.

But, a girl cannot talk about things with a guy as she can with guys and I assume that it is the same vice versa. The conversations I've had with female friends of mine will never be the subject of the conversation with a male friend. That may be problematic, but doesn't have to be. I have been growing up with male friends, and you can sort of say that I'm used to guys and their habits. In fact I feel more comfortable with a guy as friend than a girl. It all depends on your lifesituation, your surroundings, religion, tolerance, and decisions.

Now let's assume that I fall in love with one of my male friends. He doesn't feel the same for me as I do for him. I can, btw, impossibly deny that this has never happened to me. I just continued to hang around with him, have fun, and after awhile I realized it was better to keep him as a friend than have him as my boyfriend.. I knew that if he would become my boyfriend things would never be the same again. And I didn't want to lose him. So I eventually got over him and he's still one of the best friends I've ever had.

Welcome, Vitae. ^.^ Would you like to share what you practice?

*hugs Links Shadow* I feel sorry to hear that, my friend.

Tenacious, very nice said. *hugs him too*

Nice point. It depends on your morals, ethics and principes. One is not able to make big changes with Biokinesis, like changing hair color, just little adjustments, but that's still no excuse. You should make up your own mind about this; this is a matter of opinion. I have never done Biokinesis before and never plan to do it either.