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So, this DarrelWhitewolf is associated with  The Galactic Confederation of Light, the Spiritual Hierarchy, etc ? (see: http://209.238.207.146/vital_message_from_galactic_conf.htm)

So is Sheldan Nidle (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sheldannidleupdate15may04.shtml)

A few years ago, I spent a while reading messages from people associated with such (alien?) organizations. I never got anything positive, constructive out of it, nor did I become a more mature, spiritually evolved person.
In my opinion these people just try to distract people who are spiritually interested, from seeing what is really happening on a global level, and/or trying to distract people from developing extrasensory abilities of their own. ( just wait until we ascend into the 4th dimension, etc... no need to spend time developing your own abilities)

I am more concerned with the newsfakers NEVER asking deeper questions to the events they are reporting on, than messages from some "light and love" organizations with fancy names.

That being said, I also feel that there is something big coming up, and I am preparing towards it.

I have enjoyed reading your posts. Just last night I tried your triangle method - it was a nice experience.

I think a break is good, once in a while, to focus on what really matters.

Please correct me on the following, if I am mistaken.
I would assume that a person under strong neg influence could, without really being aware of it, attack someone else this way. If two persons are logged in at the same time, the attacker and the attacked, I would also assume it to be easier to establish a connection - since their minds are focused on the same object, the forum.
Attacking through a picture, perhaps with the aid of some more personal details, would make it a bit easier.

Again, what does it feel like when a strong cord is established ? (not necessarily through a forum)

I was not asking the question to gain some insight on how to attack a person, if anyone should wonder, rather the opposite (if attacked, matters could change)

Aaahhh, there is nothing like the emotional game unrolling. I think I'll just sit back, and play "Let it be".

Please ignore my post.

And what I am just writing now is just imaginary, right ?.
I did not exclude the possibility of me being a nutcase, however it isn't in any way helpful to any kind of understanding just to call someone a nutcase, etc.
Look, if you want to attack everyone, go somewhere else.

You are thinking about committing suicide ?

I have been that route many times in my life, where I thought that life was not worth living. The most serious time was when that "fake memory" was implanted in my mind somehow, possibly by a negative entity.

Are you sure that you are not influenced by a negative entity ?

Have you read "Practical psychic self-defense" by Robert Bruce ? - If not, then I would highly recommend that you get it (just in case of a neg influencing you), before you do something which you might later regret. I am not saying this to scare you, it's just that to the best of my knowledge, your 're still the same when you have died, and you would still have to live with the consequences of your actions.

If you could be a bit more specific about your thoughts, feelings, etc., there might be someone here who can help in case of a negative entity (there might already be someone who can help). To learn how to astral travel is a matter which you have to help yourself with, to get rid of a negative entity is another matter where there might be someone who can help you.

Last but not least, have you spoken to a psychiatrist yet ?
Just lifting the sorrow off your shoulders to someone understanding, might be a turning point. He might also be able to help you to change the emotional pattern which you seem stuck in.

I am glad that I am still here, despite much hardship in my life.

fallnangel77,
No, we aren't.
I could have written something with a lot more nuances in my topic, but I doubt that it would have led to a discussion.
The popular topics, are in many cases, the emotional topics - as far as I have been able to ascertain. That fact, I also find quite interesting.
In order for something to be (or become) popular, it has to have an emotional content. Look at advertisements, when was the last time that an advertisement actually informed you about something ? If they want you to buy a product, they'll appeal to emotions (this I could have said with a lot more nuances, but I won't, as describing something stereotypically is a fast way of expressing an overall view)

Personally, I had an overdose of reality, and as any qualified doctor
can tell you [], too much reality is no good.

James S,
I'm going to tell you something which you will surely envy: I have 5 different hardware stores available to me !
I find the word "consumer" a bit odd, it sounds a bit like something mechanical and controlled in a big machinery, whose only function is to spend, and who, given the right circumstances and the right amount of subtle influence, will do as predicted.

Squeek,
One day, a few of your tormentors will probably grow up, while the rest just get older. A few are probably acting as they do, because they see it as a viable way of surviving among predators, not because they want to - deep inside. That is what I have observed anyway.

Xander,
In my country, children are one of the biggest targets of the advertisement industry, since they usually have a good amount of money to spend (given to them by their parents, and/or earnt by spare time jobs). Material luxury goods are to a great extent considered necessary, not a privilege - like they were not so many years ago.

The rest of you,
Thanks for your replies, I hope more will comment on their situation, in their country, and with their perspective (while still respecting the topic)

Kamil:
It's good to hear from you. Best of luck to you in your endeavour.

TheWanderer:
If you have had some good experiences with mysticweb.org, why don't you tell us (more) about them in your own topic ?

I am not going to say anything more, since this is not the topic to do it.

To Kamil, I am sorry to have gone a bit off-topic with this post, when what is (or should) really be of concern, is your topic. My apologies.

TheWanderer:
I don't know what game you are playing (if you are playing, that is). But I find it a bit odd that you as a new member have mentioned mysticweb.org in 5 of your 7 posts (and it isn't part of your signature). I realize that there are people trying to promote what they believe is right, and I don't blame them, if they had some experiences which made them believe so.

quote:Originally posted by TheWanderer
Mark Pritchard has talked about this in his lessons, and is light years ahead of any of you as far as progress is concerned. Don't believe me? Enroll at mysticweb.org and prove it to yourself.

quote:from http://www.mysticweb.org/phps/netclasses/
The teachings given throughout the courses on Mysticweb come from VM Beelzebub's own experience.

Have you ever opened a book on black magic ?, if so you will know what "Beelzebub" is. Whoever needs to call himself anything to do with "beelzebub", whether a real entity or not, is in my mind discredited by his name.

TheWanderer, if you have any disagreements, I would very much appreciate that you make your own topic.

I have had what I can only describe as a fake memory implanted some years ago. Because I believed this fake memory, I almost killed myself. It took me some time to come to my senses, and realize that what I thought was a real memory, was not. Whether it was  caused by a neg, or not, I do not know.

I wish you better, Kamil.

My one climatic experience was when I, for a short while in the real-time zone, experienced being another of my Higher Self's incarnations in the current timeframe (see one of my earliest posts). Though that experience was brought about more because of my Higher Self's intervention, than my own effort. That experience blew apart my remaining new-age beliefs (re-incarnation, karma). It made me an experiencer, instead of a believer.

My goal in the out-of-body environment is experience and knowledge. My primary gain is freedom from external belief systems (New-age, Christian, etc. belief systems. I also count philosophy as a belief system, because philosophers have a habit of thinking their way to what they believe is the truth, instead of getting out there and exploring)

I recently described an experience in the topic "Physical and astral presence at the same time" where I met a person whom I had longed to meet again. In my case, it was enough to simply WANT to meet that person. That I have no, or little fear, and have had some OBE experiences before that encounter are probably contributing factors.

I see that you live in Europe, have you read "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce ?. You can do a price search on www.addall.com (personally I use WHSmith/bookshop.co.uk). I also recommend the books by Robert Monroe (Ultimate Journey, etc.). Though you could very well have your first OBE just by trying the methods mentioned on this website, you will be able to gain a much more comprehensive understanding of the out-of-body environment by reading these books.

Read what the inventor of the device has to say about it here:
http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/craig_webb_1997_may_dreams_foundation.htm
- go to the section where he answers the question "Do you use the Lucid Dreaming technology yourself?"

In my opinion, it is not wise to post pictures of oneself on the Internet, especially not on a board such as this, as they might be used for a psychic attack.
If I was who I once were, I would have been able to attack you psychically this way - if I had held a grudge against you.

I have slept on a mountain peak (Mount Sinai, Egypt), and all I can tell you is, that it was d*** cold. Beautiful sunset though.

I live in the country for now, and the best thing about it, is that there isn't a single sound at night. That is what I notice and appreciate, when I have been somewhere noisy for a while. I also appreciate the peace of the night.

What's next ? - personally, I long to lose this physical body and move on with life. There are a few experiences to be made before then, though.

Here is the standard explanation: some loony people propagate the importance of a certain number to gain a following, and rip you off in the process. Some people hear of the importance of this number, and suddenly they start seeing it everywhere. Now they see that the persons who told them that it was important, were right.

Here is the non-standard explanation:
"Double eleven" is a part of MKUltra reinforcement programming.
Because you see that number appearing everywhere, does NOT necessarily mean that you are a MKUltra victim.
I once saw a part of a video with the main character in the "2 * 11 movement". That person would, in my opinion, qualify as being a reptilian in human clothes (mind you, I have not actually seen a reptilian). I would strongly advise NOT to search for that persons materials, as they might reinforce MKUltra programming - if you are a MKUltra victim.

The following only applies to those with MKUltra programming.
I have no experience, nor knowledge to be able to help someone in deprogramming themselves. There are others here who might have - just be aware (beware) that they might be handlers (mind controllers)  posing as friends.
I have read materials on the subject of mind control though - whether exposure to such materials without guidance is recommended, I do not know. It might be the best choice.

Whether there is any truth to the info in the following link, I cannot say:  http://forums.cloud-busters.com/All%20Other%20Issues/9121/

Ghostrider:
No, I am not using it. I no longer consider it worthwhile to try technological shortcuts to spiritual development. No, I have not sent it back - it took me some time to realize that flashy gizmos aren't a help in the long run. I have already described my experiences with it (it didn't do much). Physical time travel is of no interest to me currently, as I think that we live in one of the most interesting times of history.

tombodenmann:
I wish more people would see TV as an IQ test.

It seems that some people have taken the products advertised on the website that I posted a link for, too seriously. Please notice that I called them "SERIOUS geek toys". Posting a link to a website, does not mean that you are endorsing their products. Technology is no substitute for spiritual development (see another post of mine in OBE discussions).
There are suppressed inventions, and there are scams. You do the research to find out which is which.

It cost me 350 U.S.D.
Please keep in mind that the only reason for answering your question was, that I posted the link for the website with the device, in the first place. I was therefore responsible. Normally I don't answer questions where little intent has gone into it (poorly formulated questions, poor grammar/spelling). Coming up with an elaborate answer in such cases, would be inappropriate on my part. Like attracts like. Intent is rewarded with intent.

As always, buyer beware !
Technology may be an aid, but it is no substitute for spiritual development. I posted that link, simply because I found the website very interesting.
I have bought the Hyper Dimensional Resonator from them, when it was a lot cheaper than it currently is, and it seems to be the exact same model that they are advertising for now, that I bought.
Therefore my observations should still be valid. Though I have no full understanding of how the device works, if such is possible, the electromagnet seems to be the essential part, as it is used to stimulate the solar plexus chakra (I have felt a buzzing feel in that area after using it). According to what I have heard, not from the inventor, the solar plexus area can be used as an exit-gateway when attempting an astral projection. (The inventor of the device seems to have no real knowledge of the ways of the astral, and seems to be heavily intertwined in the Christian belief system.)
If physical time travel is desired, it is necessary to use it over a vortex area, according to the author. Such a vortex should be possible to make yourself, it isn't explained in the manual though.

Does it work ?. Apart from Solar Plexus area stimulation, and a single real-time projection, NO. I am not saying that the inventor is a liar, the device might just be tailored to HIS way of getting out of body.
Spend your time practicing NEW, relaxation, and astral projection, the Robert Bruce way. Technological gimmicks are no substitute for spiritual development.

As to the other products that they are selling; it's your money, it's   your loss/gain. A lot of inventions are suppressed (do a search), and a lot of gimmicky devices are marketed on the net.

As to whether it is possible to visit the future, well, I have seen the future at least two times, (trivial events), so why should it not be possible to visit it ?. I have also experienced being another of my Higher Self's incarnations. A relative of mine has seen two humans from a time long gone, walk as if they existed in the current timeframe.
I embrace the unlikely.

Nice site, Squeek !
But I think they lack some SERIOUS geek toys.
Check this out: http://www.futurehorizons.net/
How about a Neurophone (hear through skin), an Electronic Mind Control D-I-Y kit, a psychokinesis tester, an Ambient Power Module (free energy), an Ion Ray Gun or a Sonic Devestator (riot control)?

I can't comment on the documentary, but there are websites with video footage and info on the subject.
When you say "radical conspiracy guy", it reminds me of a point of view I once held about all those "wacky conspiracy theorists". After reading quite a lot of such material myself (a very gradual process), and doing some research and observing myself, I have now come to the conclusion that there is far more to such matters than meets the eye.

A while ago, I ordered the two volumes of "The universal seduction" (http://www.theuniversalseduction.com/), which is essentially a compendium of articles on matters such as the NWO (look at your dollar notes; Novus Ordo Seclorum), mind control, reptilians, etc... I like it, since it does not present a single persons point of view, but rather allows you to decide for yourself.

jc84corvette, look within, calm the surface mind, and press the "search button". I have already said this once, though in a different way.

Squeek, not bash me ?. Too bad, I was expecting someone to do just that - and I still have high hopes up (on http://www.realultimatepower.net/ there is an absolutely hilarious hate mail section). Hate doesn't like being taken unseriously. Hate likes hate, as hate propagates hate. If it is not taken seriously, it passes you by.

The most efficient way of dealing with person directed attacks, in my opinion, is to expect it. If you're ever attacked, try hitting yourself in self-defense []. How's that for a pre-emptive attack ? (said while praying on his knees to the God Within, for this not to turn into a political, nor religious discussion). Unexpected reactions lead to confusion. To borrow a bit from the ideas of The Matrix: the unexpected attack is the glitch which makes the software halt (software = mind, hardware = body)

James S:
It is much easier to discuss a problem than implement a solution. As I see it, there has to be a certain tolerance, but when a lot of people go close to the limit of what can be tolerated, a solution is not within view. You could decide to set a new standard for what can be tolerated, but when the new standard is implemented, a lot of "polarity war" leaders will gain a following, which will rip the whole thing apart. So you may ban these people too, but a lot of them may wish to be "reincarnated" to continue their war, meanwhile some other people may wish to spam and disrupt in revenge. All this, in turn, will cause most serious minded people to leave (if they hadn't already left a long time ago). What is your view on this ?

Fat Turkey:
What is evident, is evident. Thereby, I am not saying what is evident. In polarity based wars, it is almost impossible to say anything, as anything said soon makes the discussion go up in flames.
Nevertheless, I will try. People who are too intertwined in belief based systems, DO NOT READ THIS! (you have been warned, and therefore I would recommend that you take your discussion elsewhere!) The core of believe is "lie". You can't argue against the experiences of someone, but you can call him a deceiver, etc, though that is very non-conducive, and few people chose that route. Astral projectors experience. Belief based people have, more often than not, no real experience to base their beliefs on. Security is found in belief for them, not experience, and an opposing belief threatens the security found in such a person's belief. Therefore they attack each others beliefs, and in the end, each other. Wars are justified in the real world by belief; one person says "I am right, and God is with me", the other person says exactly the same. And the followers believe, not experience. That's my opinion.

Now back to this forum:
Example: Astral Projector A says: I have just experienced such and such. Other Astral Projectors say: How very interesting, and someone relates of a similar experience, and perhaps someone tries to interpret the experiences
.
Belief based person B says something controversial (to other belief based people at least) and soon they all start bashing each other.

The root cause of the problems on these forums are, in my opinion: 1) A shift of focus, from the Astral Projector crowd, to the belief based people. 2) Immaturity - and yes, you can be young, and yet mature. You can also be old, and yet immature. If something here hits you in the stomach, look within, instead of lashing out.

IF YOU WANT A FLAME WAR, START IT ELSEWHERE!!! (sorry Squeek, for the capitalized letters [])

EnderWiggin, there's actually a whole network of people fighting back using orgonite.
There's some info on tower busters, holy hand grenades, powerwands, waterwands, Shivas and cloudbusters, etc., on http://forums.cloud-busters.com/

Here's what Inguma wrote about orgonite in an old thread:
Beneficial psychological effects, very uplifting. water charged over my HHG is amazing stuff, and my dreams became much more vivid.
A freind of mine I am trying to advise to help get rid of her neg, I put a nice HHG under her bed, she doesn't get nightmares any more (at least, not like before) - that is, unless she sleeps somewhere else, somewhere unprotected by orgonite. I gave her a smaller peice before this and all indications are it really p****d off her resident neg, which is a good sign. (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2745&SearchTerms=orgonite)

Did you ever get one of these orgonite devices ?

If you want some, you can get them reasonably cheap at http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/ - or build them yourself, on that site there's also some tutorials.

I have some devices myself, but despite some interesting observations, I still have to be sure that no other factors are involved.

quote:Originally posted by Tayesin
I've been thinking about this for a little while now, as things show me that it is easier to give up the struggle and just go with the flow. Just about everyone I see who has is always much happier, so I decided to ask you people what you think. SO here are the questions..

Yes, indeed it is much easier to go with the inner flow. I found it very hard trying to "conform" to society. (Perhaps you meant something else ? []). For me, the greatest struggle consisted of choosing which flow, inner or outer, to go with.

Tayesin, it seems that you assume that God is not within. How can something created be separate from the creator ?.

Although the question of free will is a non-issue for me as I am now, perhaps the following experiences may be of some interest to you.
Once I had a dream where I saw a scene, from what I would later discover, could appropriately be called the future. In this very short "videotaped" scene, (I was not present at the scene, or at least my present consciousness was not) I saw some people in a room. About a year later I had moved to a different school, and I saw the same people that I had seen a year earlier in my dream.
Some time later, I had another "prophetic" dream: I saw someone I did not know, walk to a place. About a year later, I had moved to a different school (again), and I saw the exact same person walk in exactly the same manner to exactly the same place. This time, not wanting to miss the opportunity, I said to her (whom I now knew) that I had seen the exact same thing about a year before in a dream.

quote:Originally posted by Tayesin  
So just how free is this free will ?  

In my opinion, it is free to the extent that you perceive it to be free.

English is one of my non-native languages. I learn English by reading English. Ever since logging on to this forum, my English skills have deteriorated. Consequently, I now skip posts with a lot of errors.

What kind of attitude do you "don't give a f*ck cuz i can spell correctly if i want to but i don't care" people convey to the kids and foreigners on this forum learning English ?

If you have something important to say, it's probably worthwhile making sure that it is also understood. If not, how can you expect a fruitful discussion ?

Here's some useful links:
http://dictionary.reference.com/
http://www.spellcheck.net/

Thanks for bringing up the topic, Squeek !