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Yes.

any specific examples?

it makes me wonder, if one were to be induced by hypnosis, do you think they'd be able to recount their unconscious experiences?

tis not the body but the mind

Normal is only relative to one's self, an average at least given the proper calculations is statistically accurate. We'd also have to factor in frequency of occurrence in comparison to total duration of nonphysical time as the longer the duration the more chances of such an event occurring, even if it may only happen once. So the question probably would be, is this event occurring often or is it a rarity that does not happen to very many people across the spectrum of the conscious continuum? From the fact that out of a small pool of people others have experienced a similar event, we can say that it occurs often enough for it to not be that much of a rarity, however that does not mean it occurs fairly often enough such that it may be seen as an event that one should expect to undergo during the duration of his or her travels.

why would one want to turn a physical body into electromagnetic  radiation?

Haha....

The problem with that is that they don't have plant or plant-like cells.

Doing that would be similar to calling a venus fly trap a zoophyte, merely because it is occasionaly self-motile. Unless, of course, the DNA causes the slug to develop plant-like structures, like chloroplasts.

I guess one might have to just settle for genetic burglar.

they are ninjas!

I kind of gathered that Solarity was soli, but didn't know (s)he was Sola.

Wow, learn something every day.

Now I'll go take a nap.

they put me on lockdown and leashed me to this name, so now I'm just "solarity", and nothing more

A cookie at the very! least.  I have enjoyed the discussion, Solarity, PR, everyone..  thank you . .

*munches*, I will say you have made me analyze people's emotions more in what they say verbally as it helps to understand the reason as to why they said it. It adds another layer of depth to one's communication that is often overlooked consciously. Text is harder to understand though because you to basically guess the tone based upon the structure of the verbiage.

who wrote that social commentary about eating irish babies?

i don't remember.

you mean that one that was supposed to be like a solution for starvation? let me dig around..

here you are.. http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html - A modest proposal by Jonathan Swift (1729)

solarity at your service, *bows*

We have an "occult" engine in our heads called the pineal gland, when it kicks in weird stuff may happen.

what is this weird stuff that happens?

I at least think experiences like that are very cool, the translation of energy subjectively is quite an intricate matter.

pr more and more you're starting to make me want to get into this world of crystals I am ignorant of.

My progress lately has been slow due to not really finding much time to practice, however, I have been trying!
Anyways, I've been taking the time in the mornings between my many snooze alarms to get a bit of phasing practice in.

My snooze alarm is pre-programmed to go off again after 9 minutes.
So it's a good tool, I believe, because it allows me to practice and if I fall asleep, I know I'll be awakened soon after so I can continue practicing.
And if I do manage to phase, I'll be awakened soon so I can try to perfect the process.
Well, my issues lately have surrounded my ability to remain conscious while I phase.

This morning, and even earlier this week, I awoke from a night of sleep with the intent to do some phasing practice.
So I'd get comfortable again and just start with a simple "noticing" exercise.  Soon enough I'd find myself within a dream... I take this to mean that I have phased, but I did so and remained unconscious during the experience.  My phase this morning had me driving around a local mall.  What frustrates me is my inability to remain conscious of the phasing.  In essence, I'm phasing directly into a dream instead of a fully conscious projection.

I have discovered lately that I have a main trigger in a lot of my recent Lucid Dreams that cause me to go Lucid.  That trigger strangely enough, is my kitchen stove.  I think tomorrow morning I'll try to phase to a kitchen location where a stove is present... and have that trigger my lucidity.

I'll keep everyone updated on my progress.

Is there anyone else who has this particular problem?
Not being able to remain conscious upon successfully phasing?

~Ryan

generally everyone who falls asleep has this problem , so yep, remaining conscious is of course the hardest part, but, as to "blacking out" at that specific point in focus, I can't say. I actually thought of making a program on my laptop that plays a sound/rhythm/sequence every 30 minutes for a duration of 3 seconds or so as a means to try and keep conscious awareness easier. Well, I actually have made the program, just never really tested it out. It plays any .wav on a customizable duration with a timer, so basically you just put the ms duration and path of the .wav file and hit start nd it'll do its thing. what else was I going to say.. I forgot.. hmm oh yeah, I also am finding it hard to find adequate times to phase, in the morning I'm usually more focused on getting more sleep than actually phasing. I'll probably have to change my sleep schedule so it'll actually give me a decent amount of time to practice in the morning.

Okay now I am both smiling AND impressed, could have gone off track there so thank you for the high spirited return, Solarity.

wow smiling and impressed, this is deserving of a cookie no?

that is what happens when you're so easily brainwashed

i knew you'd say something to that effect.

you're becoming predictable sir.

lol

i knew you'd say that also, since what I said was aligned with your type of thinking, predicting you.. predicting me, and Xanth.. just slaughterin cows

We are not connecting yet, Solarity.  But when we do, most specially if it happens to be two-way I think you are going to like it.  As well as be experiencing something a little different than psychological analysis. 

Sending a warm blast....

mmk, warm blasts are good, especially ones explodin with love. I wanted to know the results of your visualizing but I guess it'll have to wait, unfortunately. It's not as though I don't believe two people can connect at such a deep level, if I somehow made that impression.

I think you stunned him.   

You are my new inspiration btw, Casey. 

yep, *is stunned x.x*, helpless and vulnerable

just because soli isn't returning the warm fuzzies doesn't mean he's stunned.

btw soli, you are my new inspiration.

no you

I agree that when teaching, a common vocabulary is necessary.  But not otherwise.  We live in a diverse world, Solarity.  Many languages, many varying definitions for words.  I have never known a time of consensus and suspect there will never be one.  Necessarily so.  What I have known is a way to get beyond the word(s), beyond the outer layer of word communication and into the meaning within.  I have gone beyond even this, into a person's heart and mind.  Into glimpsing, visually, the multiple layers of experience(s) which brought this one to saying what s/he is now.  Listening is the key.  Opening up and actually letting someone else in.  It is not easy, but it can be done.  This is the way humanity as a whole can evolve.  As we each agree to do this we will go beyond our previous experience.  Beyond the word(s). 

I can understand one's upbringing, experiences, and get a general understanding of their self based upon their word choice and the varying nuances they subscribe to. I don't think that is special so much, depending on the accuracy of one's psychological analysis. If you want though, you can gaze into the deepest catacombs of my soul as my throbbing  heart lay bare upon the cold floor and I'll let you know how accurate you are.

terminology used has to be accepted by the majority otherwise its purpose is lost as everyone having different definitions is counter productive to communication. That is why humanity as a majority must evolve, or at least, those in the realms of its usage, for the terminology to be accepted. I understand that in communication the seeking to understand what others actually mean by the words given is important, yep.

all I will say is I don't trust your burger making skills

Because I experience these as two distinct things, I would have a hard time combining the two.  I use the word OBE to denote the highly tangible sensation of floating up out of my body into a slightly less physical version of reality -(quick words).  I use the word dreaming to denote a general lack of awareness.  Such as when I am dreaming *and do not know I am dreaming*.  

After more than a decade of serious online discussion, I sincerely do not think anyone's words or language needs to change.  It is almost ridiculous to ask it.  What I feel does need to happen is an authentic dive into the heightening of listening skills.  This takes a person beyond the words and into true meaning.  This will only happen when there is a desire for true understanding and communication.  In jnana it is a practice called "Shravana".  Highly worthwhile.  The contact that happens within this is stunning.

telepathy works too, but, as humanity evolves as does the terminology used.

It doesn't change the reality of the experience.
It changes how we relate the experience to others.

~Ryan

and so with your wish to draw parallels with other experiences you feel the need to herd them as cattle into a single farm?

Although I did go on to explain, the words "dreaming of an OBE you were actually having" are not as precise as Solarity's (quoted above).  There are often times when I am projecting, when my consciousness comes barely aware of the fact.  It dips up into the event for maybe a second or two and then goes under again.  In these instances, when i am able to retain the awareness, I can match these events up with the dream scenario(s) playing out at the time.  And even know in my mind, at that time, I am projecting.  A few of these I left as examples up above.  For more I would have to go to my journal..

why thank you, *bows*. I really wish dreams and OBEs would be combined as using two terms differently to describe the same action starts to get odd.

I have like an 8 line limit, then I just get tired of reading, even if it's my own posts, I can't be bothered to reread it and even try to understand what craziness I spouted. I'm rather curious though, where did you dig for said gold?

the real question is why do we have a need to define it in the first place, will that somehow change the reality of the experience?