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I was jsut wondering if anyone has some examples of how basic physics applies in the astral.
For example; has anyone ever thrown an object or had a game of something like pool/snooker?

PS. I challenge you to not laugh just a little at my avatar pic

    I was just hoping for a thread in which people can share experiences with 'Otherwordly' Music. If we do end up having some sort of permanent shift of focus to the astral after death, I really don't wanna be left without music!! lol


I'll start with mine;

I wouldn't really consider this 'Astral' music, I don't really know. A few months ago I felt connected to a higher source. We were having a converstaion but at the same time the conversation was made out of music. And I must say, the music sounded f*cking sick!! It also seemed to correspond to particular muscle movements of my own body. Hard to describe but yeah.. It was pretty incredible.

My display picture is too funny

If you make a 'tssss' type noise when you try and pass through you might find it a bit easier, I do...

The only reason I don't play God and kill people myself is because of the physical consequences associated with such actions. But if it were up to me... Well, we are overpopulated to a great degree.

Grza, have you noticed that someone who knows the one and only answer doesn't say much about it?  As someone coined, " It can only be caught, not taught".  I really liked your "hallucination" of the two doves.  And your interpretation of the meaning.  You could have shared that and said nothing else and I would go away with a smile.

I have noticed that, but I feel almost to share what I know. I wish at the time of my revelations I had bothered to put thoughts down on pen and paper. Now I am relying on my memory which is never going to be 100% accurate.
   Everyday though since things clicked for me, I have had the clicking noise in both my ears which corresponds to certain muscular movements on my scalp. Everyday, without fail, these clicks enter my thoughts and remind me of my purpose.

Your comment that ""They knew that someone like me...."  Red flag!

I have felt connected with higher entities, who what where, I don't know. If there is one 'God', he is a dribbling retarded child who allowed all this to happen by mistake.
I also had 'hallucinations' of a blue coloured light baby crawling into my head, against the black canvas of my closed eyes.

Your title is inappropriate, irrlevant and insulting.  Tweak my curiosity again in about 20 years.[/color]

It's meant to be insulting. It is supposed to reflect the state of current affairs, global humanitarianism (or lack thereof), the way people are trapped by conventional society etc.

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

The parallels between most religions is quite astounding, but not really surprising when one realizes they are actually based on astrology.

For example many of the 'Gods' share the following attributes

Born Dec 25th
Born of a Virgin
Star in the East
Adored by 3 kings
Teacher at 12
Baptized at 30
12 disciples
Performed mircales
Crucified
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected

For anyone wanting to know more the following 3 parts of the movie Zeitgeist are quite fascinating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWYEbsnWMg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISkle1d45B0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMsxl7FEDg

In my opinion, Jesus did not exist, he was just a tool for manipulation of the masses

     Most people on this forum would instantly respond to that subject heading with something along the lines of "but you miss the point, that's not what enlightenment is about at all". In part, I would agree with you as spiritual development is seen as the individuals' process. But when you boil everything right down, we all come from the same place. There is one answer.

     From a young age I have always wondered about the origins of the universe. I have never been overly spiritual or religious. Certain things such as, the way some baby animals know how to live and survive the way that species does even without ever being raised by a more mature animal of that species, have always intrigued me. Almost as if everything is pre-programmed. The information is there for us to tap into. For reasons like this I have always felt that we should simply 'remember' our origins.

    The idea that everything comes from nothing is rather mind bending. Again and again, new revelations come from the scientific community that confirm the basic idea that there is a place where everything fits together, where every state exists simultaneously outside of our 4d space time, and in folded 0, or nothing, and that is where our universe or any other comes from. IN this timelessness, past, present and future have no meaning. This is the perfectly balanced symmetry state that physicists talk about as being where our universe comes from. Our universe came about as a result of the breaking of that symmetry. This explains why our universe is composed mainly of matter rather the anti-matter, the fact that our universe is so far out of balance in this way is one of the major unexplained mysteries of modern science.

     So what does symmetry mean exactly? It means that things are balanced, that every possibilty has an opposite possibilty, every positive has negative. When you take all of these positives and negatives contained within perfect symmetry and add them together, we get 0. 0 then is not empty, it's full, full of every other possibilty. Perfectly balanced and assembled in the underlying symmetry that our universe or any other comes from. 0 is where it all starts, and where it all ends. Thus, another name for that 0, is the omniverse.

     When things become out of balance, most of the time, the results are inconsequential, and balance is soon restored. But this constantly bubbling chaos will occasionally have large deviations, and push itself away from the perfect blance of 0. In one of these deviations then we are watching the entire life of a universe as one simultaneous shape.

     If we think about this in terms of our own universe, in one direction its our highly ordered big bang, and the other direction its the end of our universe. Right at the very moment you are reading this, we are some place within the shape of that deviation. So when you consider what was before the Big Bang and after the end of our universe, in the timelessness of folded 0 we see that both are the same thing, back within the perfectly balanced symmetry of the omniverse.

     What would cause these larger, more complex deviations to occur? Ordered cauasality, creating steps that allow us to move furthur and furthur away from that balancing point. Within our own universe, this happens because our universe is constrained by a set of locked in physical laws.

     No matter where we start to observe, it will appear to be random information, and we won't be able to see that far, but as we move around and observe, we will be able to see furthur, and patterns start to omerge. For something as complex as our own universe, we are talking about an exceedingly unlikey set of allignments to take place, but in the timelessness of folded 0 the word 'unlikely' ceases to have much meaning. If it is at all possible that a pattern could or would ever occurr, then it already exists in the timeless background of the omniverse.

    The arrow of time that we are experiencing now is the result of a return to symmetry, the physical laws which constrain our universe appear to not have changed within the lifetime of our universe.

     I have witnessed this breaking of symmetry firsthand, as hallucinations in a hypnogogic state. The hallucinations appeared as two doves, beak to beak. The dove on the right hand side started to flap (representing life), then the left hand side had to start flapping in opposite to balance this out.

     Back to the subject heading now; there would be many of you who are more 'spiritually developed' than I, but throughout my own spiritual journey, I cannot deny the things I have learnt. I feel almost as if it is my purpose to let everyone know, I have had a clicking in my head every day since these hallucinations to remind me of what I have learnt.

     In regards to religion and 'God'? In a metaphorical sense, they are all correct. The parallels between most major religions is astounding, but not surprising, as they are based more on astrology than anything else.

Born Dec 25th
Born of a Virgin
Star in the East
Adored by 3 kings
Teacher at 12
Baptized at 30
12 disciples
Performed mircales
Crucified
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected

For anyone wanting to know more on this i recommend the following 3 parts to the movie Zeitgeist;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWYEbsnWMg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISkle1d45B0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMsxl7FEDg

I beleive practices such as religion were not only used to control and teach, but were also predictions of the spiritual pattern that arose (along with mathematical, scientific etc.) from the Big Bang. They knew someone like me would come along, and put themselves through what I had to, to learn the things I did.

     I'm sorry if my writings seem random or are hard to understand, I have never try to put this into words before. There is a lot I haven't touched on and have left out but feel free to ask questions, I will do my best to answer.

Has anyone here ever asked a helper/guide/entity, the basic question; what happens to a human when they die? I'd ask myself but I've only had a handful of exits..

If not perhaps share a few words on what you think the afterlife is

I reckon if God actually existed, he would have let us know by now.. I believe our universe was just an inevitable part of life, a birthplace.

I've had experiences where I think in music, like each thought has pitch, direction, rhythm etc. It's a beautiful experience at the time isnt it? I wish it were something we could hold on to

Does this make sense?

No.. If a spanish person meets an asian person, they will at least introduce themselves. If not the world would be completely different. Let's just assume there is other intelligent life out there. If they had means of intergalactic travel, would you want to know about them, or would you prefer them to lurk in the shadows?

Some entity once asked me this question. I replied 'yes' and felt a zap like an electric current from heel to heel. The entity then took off rather quickly..

Has anyone had similar experiences? I don't think it was random it tied in with a lot of other messages i received and dreams I'd been having.. Who knows..

Im also new to astral projection, I've found that setting the alarm for 4:30 in the morning is a good time to practice as the body is still very close to its sleep state, then its just a case of remaining aware as you drift back off then any method can be used to exit. You will find it surprisingly natural (hopefully)

Insane? Try f*cking lucky. I've been trying for ages to get such results, and almost nothing. I wish it were so easy for everyone!

My aim is to practice moving by getting to the moon

awesome

If only we could see

Great isnight there mcdwg, a lot of great points. Personally, I would give up all these material possessions in favor of a hunter gatherer type lifestyle, but i don't wanna be that person on my own  .

What makes you think yours are below 'standard'?

Just lack of practice really...

By focusing on whether or not God is relevant, you automatically give the concept relavence- it is self defeating.

Which is why it makes sense that we created this universe as a collective. A perpetual cycle of life

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send them PUL (you google)

Might help if you stated what this actually stands for...