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Ive had so many dreams when i get into fights with people, or acting in self defense; when i try to punch them it feels as if im trying to swing my arm through water. every time i hit somebody i dont feel the impact of a solid blow(feels like i hit basically nothing). This has happend to be all my life and im just curious, it seems when i try to act violante or even have to, i cant?

Has anyone else had this happen, im trying to not have this happen anymore and be able to actually win fights and help myself more so. It doesnt feel to good waking up from a dream which you lost a fight in due to the fact when you tried to fight, nothing works.

I don't get it, you were already out of your body when you realized you were lucid dreaming, so I don't understand how you climbed out of your LD body and ended up being out of your body again

If you mean that when you try to do Phasing, you end up falling asleep into a Lucid Dream... that IS Phasing.  
You're entering the non-physical remaining lucidly aware.  You might not be IMMEDIATELY lucid... but lucidity might kick in a few second or minutes after you're there, but that IS Phasing.

When you're lucidly aware, you're ALREADY in the non-physical... I believe that you're past the point of where vibrations happen.  Just enter your lucid state and go enjoy the world.  

Exactly, I use to be pretty confused on this also but now I understand that when your lucid dreaming you are having an OBE, it's just that you fell asleep and weren't concious from the start of it


I to have had taunting dreams of me attempting to try and leave my body, includes me laying on my brd and floating up & what not, when im actually already out! Lol kinda silly

i think its because once you got into the air, your intention wasnt to do anything other than just float there.


my last LD just involved me floating up and back down to the ground for like 3 minutes, idk why i had it but for some reason i was having the same problem.

What do u mean jerk? Like out of nowhere a shock that wakes u out of trance? Because ive experienced that a few times. And also sometimes if you haven't gotten enough rest while your trying to sleep you can experience a shock out of nowhere that'll wake you up

Someone correct me if I'm delusional

I encountered one of the shadow people you spoke about. It was standing there in my doorway to my bedroom and it stared at me for a bit. I asked what it was. There was no answer and then it ran into me and knocked me back a bit. Then I looked around and it was gone. I had no idea what it was and I stayed there still for a while. It was terrifying and I don't sleep in that room too much anymore.

That's crazy, when I was a kid around the age of 7 I had a dream of me falling back down into my bed and as I was floating slowly down I saw a big shadow figure above where my body was laying with it's hands kind of out. I awoke when I landed on my body with a massive heartbeat and kind of sweating. Now that I have a better idea of what was actually occurring I thought the event was strange. Kind of has me scared to try and project sometimes

that was def. a lot of info, and actually kind of what ive been wondering lately

its still hard to understand though.

So with that being said, do we create our guides, or are they actually our guide if that makes sense. Lol

I've now had a decent amount of nonphysical experiences and some of them being very long, the next thing on my list is to ask to see my guardian.

Is there a preferred way by anyone on this forum for when you all want to see your guardian? Do I refer to it as a guardian? guide?

I imagine it goes like "may I see my guardian?"

Bump!

Ive only became lucid once in a shopping mall and it kind of modeled the one im familiar with but also there were differences, would you consider that being on the planes?

short version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bbcUTMGTp8


long version:

part I: http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/2012_the_shift_in_human_consciousness_part_i
part II: http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/2012_the_shift_in_human_consciousness_part_ii
part III: http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/2012_the_shift_in_human_consciousness_part_iii

thank you very much

I think they mean the earth changes, like the pole shift...or it could be the vibrational shift in humans for 2012...or both!

can you give me more information in the shift for 2012? is there an informative site or anything?

appreciated much 

What are you all talking about with these "changes"

And kundalini can someone explain please, in astral dynamics this subject was not really touched on at all.

I just need a really good explination of the higher planes and lower planes, he's been a Christan all his life and strictly thinks god will be waiting for him when he dies and will stay there for eternity, and then thinks the devil rules hell etc.

Am I making sense? Lol

Well that's why I'm sort of confused too. I'm not sure if i was actually out of body already or if i was dreaming when i found myself staring up at my ceiling. But, the fact that you've also seen a clownish figure up on your ceiling is pretty interesting haha.

Well when your Lucid Dreaming your out of your body, and it sounds like you woke up probably in a false awakening, which you were also out of your body to.

And ya it is lol, I just remember thinking "that's not real I'm hallucinating" hahaha

But I'm sure you'll figure it out when someone else posts

I'm confused because you were already out of your body once you realized you were lucid dreaming.

Cool experience overall though, and with that clown face thing that's pretty odd because I have stars also on my ceiling  and can recall waking up with vibrations before in the past and looking at my ceiling thinking "hmm isn't this off color kinda?"  and noticed a clownish figure being made before my eyes, ignored it and went back to sleep lol

ummm..this site


hey, did you buy this guy's stuff? seems overpriced

Lol u think id buy something about projecting that would be more than a cost of a average book?

And well obviously this site, I'm talking about other ones. But I don't think there's a better forum than this one here, I'm just trying to find another good information site if there was one out there

I see, but he's made some good videos no doubt regardless

Do you guys have any good information sites you all like?

http://www.theartofastralprojection.com/

it seems to be really good, ive been on his email list where he usually sends an email every other day about something pertaining to projection

just curious 

Both books by William Buhlman helped me:  Adventures Beyond the Body and The Secret of the Soul.  I did a workshop with him awhile back and found him very straightforward and intolerant of  BS.  He also spent extra time beyond the workshop to help those of us who had questions and help with technique.  It's rare to get to know an author and where he or she is coming from, but being around him for 4 days gave his writing more credibility for me.

Ya I loved adventures beyond the body thus leading me to now buy his second book! Thanks for your input

And I also ordered astral projection and the nature of reality, looks pretty legit

Ahh, now that's because... in a lucid dream, commands don't generally work like that. At least, this is only based on my own experiences in the past, it may differ for others. When lucid, you need to 'break' out of the dream. There is a plethora of ways to do this, but you may know them already. Ask if you don't

Yea i thought one way would be just asking for clarity.

Thanks for all the replies guys

So far it looks like Robert Monroes first book is what im about to get next and then Astral Projection and the Nature of Reality, I really like Astral Dynamics it just has me doing a lot of back-tracking ATM

You sure surround yourself with a lot of red tape out-of-body.

It doesn't matter. You could make up your own commands with ANY combination of words as long as the thoughtform of "bring me to my friend" is behind it. Don't get hung up on the language, it's the meaning behind the language that needs to be stressed.

Thanks, but on my last lucid dream i became lucid in a mall and walked outside, once i was out there i sat down and said "can i go to the park" and nothing happend at all so thats why im asking

What do you say exactly when you visit people? "bring me to so and so"?

bump and question another question, so when i ask to go see my friend i would say "Take me to (so and sos name) instead of saying (Can I see so and so) right? and when im asking to visit certain places like the park?