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Whaaaa o_o
 so lightworkers think they are "high rank angels" incarnate to earth to help with the ascension.... And I thought lightworkers are the ones who claim to awaken there DNA and have supernatural powers and run around with wands to open a spooky gates >_>

*reads more* omg "messagner of truth" now I'm sure archangel Gabriel is laughing at this human -_-
So the guy thinks he is Gabriel in the flesh or something?

This book would be good if it was fictional but sadly this guy is lost in his own delusions...
I was gona rank but it's worthless. Mind you it does say in the scriptures that the Satan is very good at misleading people and giving false hopes. Quran goes into great details on how this dude works and how he gives people false feelings too as well as hopes.
From what I'm witnessing for the past 3 years It is evident that this Satan guy could be very real and I'm not even Religious o_O   

Well have to wait and see how the studies goes I guess. What I don't understand is how this Jesus dude is popping up in lost books and books that are not known. And he can only be found in books of storys but can't be found as an actual person. I really wana be in the days where it all started and understand what's theses people were doing. That's what I hate about theses ancients and there Religious beliefs. What we need is a divine book that will show up infront of us (worldwide) and show us what's really going on. We really do need a modern up todate divine book =/  

Saw this on YouTube and had to look it  up so here is the artical.  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105714/Secret-14million-Bible-Jesus-predicts-coming-Prophet-Muhammad-unearthed-Turkey.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It could first gen

[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

But according to Proverbs and John, Jesus and Wisdom was around before anything was made so it could be just them.

In the Quran it says that he was talking to angels which would make sence since the angels are human looking and we are in the image of them.

Kinda like the Hindu concept where Brahman is unseen but he made other gods who are human looking and we look simular to them, just weaker and animal like behavour.   

Sorry, if this is going off topic but regarding that thing you said about becoming Gods: Psalm 82 (around verse 6) says we are Gods. Jesus even quotes it in defence when the Jews get all worked up about him claiming to be the Son of God (John 10). Not sure what the Mormon stance on that is but the fundamentalist Christians I grew up with tend to squirm at those verses, inventing all kinds of creative explanations as to why the Bible should be understood literally, but not that bit.

hi ^^

Yea I'm aware of that and it is intresting and a puzzle. At one point Jesus says "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matthew  22:30.

Here I see the resurrection as Ascension so the human evolution will take place According to scriptures worldwide. But which gosple is valid? John where we are like gods or Matthew where we become like angels. 

Yea I found that weird too >_>

They must of changed that later on otherwise this guy wouldn't of joined them and he looks very happy with the beliefs. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dNYpXZIN_c&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It does have that ancient alien astronauts feeling to it which is prolly why I compaired it to new age beliefs where aliens came plus the teaching of becomming gods which we see with the "I am" movment and the hole "you are god/source" mumbo jumbo. Then we got the channeled beings talking about 
the Ascension and well be like gods. Only thing I found in scriptures is that we will become like angels in heaven but not like gods. But I do know that the new age movement is more complex then that and has more things to it.

     
  

Was watching this mormon video and all I can think of is the new age movement that has simular concepts of Mormonism o_O what do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_riamLAbuTQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

was pose to make it simple but I got carried away and so I wrote more concepts in 

I was Reading the first chapter of john in different  versons of the bible and what is intresting is that some say "and the word was a god" instead of "the word was God" now at the start is says "In the beginning" we all know that God has no beginning so this logos is a second god as we can see in the first verse.  Now this logos created life and without it nothing was made so in genisis it was the logos who said "let us make man in our own image" also the Elohim is plural for Gods so this adds on nicely with the new testement.

There's no contridiction in john and the first chapter of genisis cause it's pose to say "in the beginning of God's creation" cause remmber God doesn't have a beginning. 

So there was a prime God like Brahman who can never be seen and he create other gods out of himself who has there own personality and I think this has the same concept in the bible. Instead in this verson brahman is Jehovah and Jesus is brahma the creator of the world as well as consciousness which is why he said:
"On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you"   

So Jesus is pretty much a god but not the prime God. 
Also we have 3 Gods in both bible and Hindu scriptures. 

Bible: The Logos,the Wisdom,the Prime. 

Hindu scriptures: Shiva,Vishnu,brahma 

Jesus not only is the creator of the world but also a Vishnu who comes once in every age to bring balance to the world. He came as Krishna 5,000 years ago and he came back 2,000 years ago.  So many parallels in all religions it's amazing!

When we put all religions as one we can see how epic all storys are when we put them together and can see how each genarations has similar teachings to tell.  
  

for the very first time we get to see what humans are capable of and the power hidden from within.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYxCrugJj_o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I live in a community that is very close to the Jehovah Witness' main temple, and I sometimes get their literature.  Just a couple of years ago I was (pleasantly) surprised to see that they were claiming not to believe in hell either, as a 'place' you go to in the afterlife.
So, it's not so black-and white.

What they belive is worst then hell.... With them it's bye bye consciousness forever and belive there's no afterlife. They think we are meat and bones and if you wana live forever you must join there cult and hopfuly there god will save you. My mum is one .

It's all a dream~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Y3hhduFIg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

After the olympics invasion the evil forces will let out a virus which will turn people into zombies and the hole world will be in chaos! But it's ok cause on the 21st dec the shift will take place and we will enter a new realm where the zombies can't get us. Then 1,000 years later some evil dude will try trick us and take us back to zombieland.

Even though I may seem like I'm joking.
 I really do wana experience zombie invasion but at the same time I don't....
It looks epic in dreams~   

ask her and tell her how you feel and that your paranoid and that people are talking behind her back. Looking for astral spys is stupid and worthless. Don't just belive what ever people tell you... I've seen so many talk shows where some paranoid guy talks about his friends or family members telling him that his wife is cheating on him and after the lie detector test was completed it turns out the wife/GF was innocence.

Are you guys even dating? If not then why are you seeking astral spys o_O? 
Get out there and talk to her! 

Hi krilla ^^

Liberation from? You mean as in a spiritual "awakening" of any sort?

Yea and that knowing that your spiritually liberated from karma etc.

Hi lionheart ^^

the first reason of my worry was sent in PM. Here's my second reason:

Maby I am afraid of change or perhaps my ego is to comforable in what I'm doing now that it doesn't want anything to get in it's way (you know how ego is =D )

My goal is to kill it pretty much so it can leave me alone -_- that's why it seems I'm contradicting myself in post, one minute I support a topic and give reasons for it then later I reject the idea and give a reason for that.
So I have have little issue within myself. hence the only reason why I post is cause of the ego wants to have it's say, ither good or bad.

After listening of hours and hours of lectures I now understand what I need to work on.  

 

I'm sorry lionheart, I wish I can belive this but we gotta put the dots together and my findings are differnt then the new age beliefs. I have belived in so many things in the past such as 2012 shift and many conspiracys but theses are not spiritual experience.

I think I'm gona stop posting on theses 2012 post cause I don't wana break peoples spirituality and beliefs. It's like a black magician taking peoples energy away from them.    

A lot of religious ancient texts are the works of channeled beings. Heck I can even make a religion myself of something I'm channeling and what it tells me, then spread awareness about it. The being would have more power as the collective thoughts and beliefs of people is directed towards it.

That's Why I agree most of the EFFED up religions are not actually the work of "Creator" gods, but beings who are taking "credit" for creating the universe...for some reason. It's so easy, so so easy for us humans to be at a disadvantage to the unseen world, and most dont even realize it. =/

that's a scary thought... What's your ideal of liberation?

(before you read any further I just wana say that I really do wana belive in this event but I want faith not a a belief)


The writers were enlightend not channeled. In all religions there is a powerful energy which has many names (gnosis,wisdom,brahma,shiva,atman,
christ,Buddha,Krishna etc)

In the bible in proverbs it urges all readers to attain wisdom which the new testement calls Sophia or gnosis.

The Upanishads also urges readers to attain this powerful force which is within.

In the bhagavad Gita it also urges readers to attain the supreme goal called Krishna and Brahman.

The Buddha also urges all to become Buddha's.

Gnostic's same thing.

Tao te ching is saying the same thing.

All theses teachings and concepts explains what this energy does which is to set us free and attain total liberation.

Please watch this docmentory
(It has Bashar and others answering questions)

Tuning in Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0x9rHH33U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What they are saying doesn't match the scriptures. They are not talking about karma and they are saying (as an analogy) that when hitler died he had a party cause life is like a stage.

Now where does it say we go to heaven no matter what we do in life? Nowhere... No scripture supports this concept, it urges all to let go of the ego cause the ego can never enter the higher realms and attain self knowledge.

Matt 19:17

"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

This verse has a deeper meaning. In all scriptures is a map for us to follow and  following the spiritual path leads to liberation, but, you must keep the commandments I recomend the bhagavad Gita since its pure spiritual or Buddha's books.

But what that verse is saying is this "I am here because I am not good, if I was good I wouldn't be here." were in a prision planet and we will keep comming back till we learn to follow the commandments and awaken ourselfs.


If you want to be free then go back to the scriptures and follow the path they setted up for you. Don't put beliefs on new age'ers who are full of pride and ego.


I have a question for the ones who 100% belive in this event.

Have you attained spiritual knowledge? Are you teaching others how to attain it like the ancient sages and Buddhas? 

Or are you just relying on channeled messages and just waiting for the evolution to happen? 

 

Wasn't there a quote by the Buddha when he said something like "if you see me, kill me" or "if you see the Buddha, kill him" the reason behind it was cause the person is your manifestation and stuff. Dogen (zen master) fell into that maya too I think. I saw a movie based on him and In his meditation he met the Buddha and gave him a new doctrine and he went teaching it. The buddist at that time hated him which is understandable since the Buddha already left his teachings before he left.
It's only a movie but it should be based on facts so I'm guessing that's how dogen's enlightenment went.

Oh you were talking about the passage!

it also mentions meditation both are mentioned only one time in the entire book.

There's something odd I just realized with theses 2012 videos, why does it all come from a channeled being? I don't know any scripture that talks about spirit guides or channeling other beings from space and tbh we should get something in scriptures that talks about theses guys but they don't. What all scriptures do talk about is connecting to your inner being which is 100% you. Not a separate being but your inner self who is all knowing.
So what's going on here? 
How come all the sages and buddha's never talk about aliens and channeled being?
Our true goal is Self knowledge and liberation.   

"I think therefore I am not;
only when my mind is in silence I am." don't know who said the quote.

No hidden meaning. just sounds epic the hole "behold!" thing.
New'er bibles ruined it and turned it into "look!" -__- 

Agreed ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ruMDp2L9w&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Genesis 24:63 (KJV)
"And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw , and, behold, the camels were coming"

behold the camels!

I love Peter Gabriel's music. Especially this one which is also very spiritual:

Here's a (unfortunately shortened) version of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacfujXGpQQ

found a longer one which is pretty epic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUXrejXH1Gw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Actually, My Body Is A Cage is from Aracade Fire, the original isn't bad, either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKujuu6SpYA

I think Peter Gabriel better plus he has that johnny cash feel to it