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Hey everyone, I just regged the other day but have been reading a bunch of things on the forum the past few days, and been into astral for at least one year but stopped focusing on it months ago.

I would like to share with you one of the experiences that I had this past weekend:


Ok,so i was laying down on the couch at a friend's house, then i closed my eyes. The next thing I 'realized' was that I was in an altered state, so i decided to try and 'roll out' of my body.

Well, next thing i know i fall off the bed in MY OWN HOUSE (around 70km away) and bumped my knee on the ground (didnt feel any pain tho, I often do this in my room when i wake up to turn off my alarm). I then 'realized' that it was an astral projection, and floated through the wall and saw my dad on the computer. I wanted to pay attention to minor details so that I could confirm the projection but i just couldnt seem to. Shortly after i'm at my school (teleported there?) and I have sex with this one girl (o_0), which 'ends' my astral experience.

So at this point I think that i'm awake physically (i got pulled back into my physical body) but the thing is i'm still actually dreaming. So some other stuff happens and I finally awake physically.

Ok, So what i think I have experienced is a Lucid Dream, where I dreamt of Astral Projecting and having sex with a girl, finally to 'fake awake' back in the lucid dream and again awake in reality.


Any ideas what the heck happened? I'm pretty sure it wasnt astral projection, but rather a lucid dream ;/

Thanks for the input

P.S - I tried the 'Life Line' technique the other night briefly, and as soon as i started trying it I got vibrations and my solar plexus was pulsating rapidly This technique has alot of potential!

Ah, I know exactly what you're talking about it!

You may feel all relaxed and ready to AP, then an image of 'evil' pops into your mind and doesnt want to leave. I also know that 'odd feeling' you are speaking about when you feel bad vibes around you and prefer not to attempt AP at this time.

Do I know what it is or what is causing? Not positive about it. But I know that if you keep a smile on your face and fill yourself with joy and LAUGH (internally even) when you see 'evil' or 'scary' images then they will quickly dissipate. Because you must _KNOW_ that that's all they are, just scary images that cant harm you in any way, unless you let them scare you.

Last night I was meditating, all nice and happy and all of a sudden the image of "Freddy Crouger" (or something) pops into my mind and it just keeps popping up even tho I try to block it. So, what I did was I laughed at it in my mind. I said to myself "What can this little image do? NOTHING. Its just a scare tactic probably imagined by the mind or some negs that dont want me to discover the magic of AP"

And guess what? It worked [] After a minute the image was totally out of my mind []


P.S - I regret watching that movie Freddy vs Jason (Damn that TV!) []

Funny, I used to get an erection when trying AP too!

I think it MAY be either:
a) A root chakra with TOO MUCH energy
b) An energy blockage in the root chakra
c) An under-developed root chakra (I doubt it tho)

It's especially annoying when you've got your mind clear and are progressing into deep relaxation, then an image of a good looking female comes into your mind and you can get it out, followed by Mr. Happy getting really happy and sabotauging the meditation\projection attempt! []

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I think it all comes down to practice and balancing and develop your chakras and energy.

- Once you practice meditation\relaxation more and more, you will be able to ignore the erection and push away naughty images, causing it to most likely stop occuring so frequently.

- Once you balance and develop your chakras and energy, among the many benefits, there would be little or no energy blockages and you'd be able to AP much easier

Maybe check out NEW Energy Ways by RB (http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm)


P.S. - Get a girlfriend and she'll take care of that erection []

Hello Maven

First of all, it seems you are progressing quickly and an AP can be right around the corner!

Just thought i'd let you know some things:
- When you said "and my heart was beating faster and faster", in actuality, your heart is beating slower, but its your heart or solar plexus chakra that is pulsating like crazy, and it feels like your heart is beating insanely. Just wanted you to know not to worry cause you're heart is fine and you wont have a heart attack

- Like stillwater said, you most likely saw the aura of yourself in the mirror. You should check out Training to see Auras (http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/auras/auras.htm) and read up a bit to develop your skills and maybe answer some of your questions on colors\depth\etc...

- The ROPE method seems to be a pretty good method if you can actually feel\visualize yourself climbing a rope. And it seems to be working well for you I believe yes you should add that feeling of "struggle" when climbing the rope, because you are pulling your  astral body out of your physical shell. BUT, make sure your muscles aren't tensing and whole body is relaxed! You want 'mental struggle' not physical


Hope this helped you out somewhat!
-=DiViNE=- []

WOW, interesting experience!

I have no idea where you were, but if I had to take a guess i'd say you were APing at a low level with wandering souls\ghost entities.


Interested on hearing what others have to say!



-=DiViNE=- [8D]

Well I could setup a subdomain on my website for this project if many people are interested....

I was thinking something similar to you Van-Stolin, a centralized 'meeting place' or stronghold where we could relax, plan and discuss things, etc...

And then I though of this, how about if we had something like... lemme try to explain this.


A central floating-island (think Final Fantasy) with this castle or whatever on it. Then surrounding the castle floating much higher would be seperate floating islands with different themes and landscapes.

(BTW, i'm not too bad with graphics, and I think I'd be able to pull off making a realistic looking image of a world like this by putting together various images and whatnot [])

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I am assuming something like this may take a while to stabelize in the Astral, but personally I dont belive in limits, I believe that anything is possible, and that if we focus and try hard enough to gather lots of 'thought energy' to form a place like this, it is very possible.

Personally, I think I need a bit more practice in AP and need to understand 'life energy' and how to harness and channel it throughout the body and later through space and time, before I undertake a project like this.

Honestly, I dont think i've ever consciously AP'd, been very close but not quite out. So first i'd like to get out of body and get used to the feeling
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Well, looking forward to any comments from you guys whether you think its a good idea / would it work / would you help / etc...

Thanks!


-=DiViNE=- [8D]

I experienced this too. Sometimes when the vibrations get really heavy, the heart chakra throbs like crazy and it feels like im having a heart attack too!

I usually feel like im not breathing when the deep numbness vibrations and heavy sensations come around.

The best way i've found to combat this is to concentrate on something OTHER than your breating. Perhaps visualize a small box and focus on that, or try the Life-Line technique. Anything to keep you from focusing on breathing.

Remember, your body will be fine, your subconscious will control your breathing while your consciousness shifts to the astral body. You do it every night and you're still alive arent you? So forget about breathing, just dont purposely hold your breath cause that could have consequences

Hope that helps!


-=DiViNE=-

Indeed, you make some very good points

I guess I'm hoping that sometime there will be one universal meeting place for all conscious astral travellers, kinda like Tokyo but in the astral world

You could go to the 'ticket booth' and check in, and search the computer to see if any of your friends have checked in recently and ask it their location

This new 'Life Line' technique sounds very promising, I had gotten vibrations almost instantly when i tried it last night, but didnt get very far due to distractions in the house and the fact that i was not in the best mood for AP.

Thanks for the comments!

-=DiViNE=-

LOL I find it funny that you fell in the water and got attacked Always encountering monsters, thats weird ;/

Soon as I learn to AP i'll go and visit the island. Perhaps we should surround the island with a dome of Holy light? So that monsters couldnt survive in there.

Or better yet, lets have monster-hunting competitions, where we meet up with a bunch of spears and lassos and round up monsters

LOL I think it'd be fun, and conquer our fears as well, since we're going after them rather than vice versa!

Ahhh! Thanks for the help I'm 100% sure it was a Lucid Dream now. I remember during the dream I 'thought' to myself "Pay attention to details around here!" but I was unable to and suddenly I was at school and I wasnt controlling myself or where I was going, but I was fully aware that I was not in reality!

Just like you said:

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meaning that I am aware AT THAT MOMENT that I am not 'awake', but I don't have much control over the situation.

Thanks again!

-=DiViNE=-

From what i've read, when you are in an RTZ projection people often have  trouble moving, or rather move really slowly like swimming through mud. I have read somewhere that this may be because you are in the buffer-zone between the physical and astral (at a low vibrationary level).

Eh, i might be getting all these things mixed up in my head :S

RTZ Projection == Real-time Zone == Ethereal\Etheric Projection?

I'm sure someone with more experience will clear it up shortly for us both

Here is my little 'explanation' of how i percieve the mind split.

Lets assume that we have TWO minds for now, the ASTRAL and the PHYSICAL.

The following are two 'eye holes' cut into the 'wall of minds'.

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[  (o) (o)   ]
[   1   2    ]
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Hole #1 = Astral, Hole #2 = Physical

Our consciousness can then be represented at ONE EYE.

Now, when we are in the physical, our EYE (or consciousness) is looking through hole #2. And while we are in the astral, our EYE is looking through hole #1.

Now, here is the mind-split part. When we are half in the physical, and half in the astral, our EYE is seeing 1/2 of the first hole |) and  half of the second hole (|. So therefore, it is at that moment interpreting both holes at once and since it is not trained for this kind of operation, it gets 'confused' and cant process the information fast enough for the physical mind to comprehend (or something similar?).

Now, i see our SUBCONSCIOUS, as a 'surveillance system'. In each of the holes, is a camera hooked up to the SUBCONSCIOUS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM XP 2004 (hehe), which records and takes care of each 'hole' or 'mind' when the consciousness is not there to attend to it. So when our CONSCIOUSNESS decides to look through a hole, the SUBCONSCIOUS SURVEILLANCE turns off for that hole. Now if it's half way between the two holes, the SURVEILLANCE is off for both of them, and the CONSCIOUSNESS is left to take care of both minds at the same time.


Well, personally I find it an interesting explanation, at least it works in my mind.

Any thoughts on it?

-=DiViNE=-

Well, I have two ideas you could try.

1) Increase Vibrations - Try and say something like "Bring me into a higher vibrationary state!" And if it works (from what i've read) you could turn the RTZ projection into AP (now in the astral dimension) and you'll pass through the walls no problem.

Or assuming you want to stay in the RTZ projection, you could try:
2) Find alternate methods of travel - Try going through doors, or perhaps 'thinking' the location, spinning around and you might teleport there.

I have not tried any of these methods myself (never AP'd before consciously) but from what i've read they may help you. Hope that helps

-=DiViNE=-