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CFTraveler , thank you. Your words have been very helpful u_u!

i just went back to bed and tried to AP, after i while of relaxing and going through phasing voices, images, mini movies, while focusing in an outside point out side of my body to detach my awareness from the body, at some point when i notice that the blackness infront of my eyes was getting darker and darker like layer upon layer of blackness (F21?), then i told myself (my energy) "take me where you want me to go, you know where im suppose to be" again and again for a couple of times until i started feeling tingling sensations (soft, weak i may say (not the same vibrations as when im using energy from my body (those are more strong, deep and spiky) in different parts of my body, but mostly in my left ear and between my legs, and then as i kept repeating "take me where you want me to go, you know where im suppose to be" i started feeling those vibrations all over the front part of my body: chest, legs, arms, except on my face, i could feel them more but still too weak (but i couldnt increase them with my will), then my heart started raising  7_7 and i lost some of the relaxation, so i decided to try later and got out of bed.

As i said before, i cant feel the AP vibrations unless i command them, thats what confuses me (about the way i feel the vibes, instead of just feel them when my body is asleep, i have to tell "it/them" to take me somewhere in order to feel them) otherwise i would be laying there forever until i feel them for x reason. Which now makes me a bit more confuse/confident about my way to AP, since i have notice that each person has a different way to AP. but, hey im progressing.

thank you again CFTraveler 

Localized vibes such as on your hand or legs are not indications of exit, simply an awareness of your energy body.  When you have (or If ) separation vibrations you will know- they are very dramatic at first, and can vary from buzzing vibration all the way to seizurelike swaying or strobing of your point-of view.  They eventually smooth out, but when they first happen they're extremely noteworthy.

but what if you dont feel any vibrations of any kind and still AP, i keep getting confused because the only time i have archive the vibrational state consciously was when i felt asleep and then woke up, felt different and then started to feel them when i commanded myself to go to a friend's house, otherwise i would not feel them unless i commanded myself to go somewhere, but i was still inside of the body, and not too relax. :\ the ppl that talked me about AP, they never vibrate to AP, they just leave their body without any vibrations.

But where am i suppose to go? xDDD i have AP into RTZ through a dream and appeared in my room and all i said was "i want to be in the astral" xDDD. when i imagine a place where i want to go nothing happens or i fall asleep. whats the intent, whats the trigger, that important step that makes you be there ( i think its call 'reflex'? or something like that)? i know that is within my head, but perhaps i have not recognize it yet :\

Xanth's Phasing Primer

so according to the -Conceptual Framework of the Astral- i have been hundreds of times right there at the exit of projection   ... with that said, i just have to pick a destination...

ok, so today i took a nap, and asked myself  "how to lucid dream?" before falling asleep(usually if i ask a question before i go to sleep, my dreams give me the answer.) i cant remember very well because the dream was kind of fuzzy but i remember seen a girl and i saw her AP? or something, i heard a voice, dont remember what it said exactly but i think it said "this is how you lucid dream" <.<! and i didnt realize that i was dreaming? 

i keep getting closer and closer, since the left side of the brain is out of the equation during the sleep cycles then i have think about non-verbal communication with my right side since is the one doing all the work, instead of saying that im going to have LDs I imagine having LDs.

Keep progressing with this thing called brain 

ok, when i get to that point, im going to intent to be somewhere else than my house.

Thanks again Lionheart

Thanks for your advice, Contenteo

i have noticed that now i can lay down for 1 or 1 1/2 hour (it was 30 minutes, before my body would try to roll over) but when im too relax it becomes hard for me to focus (even though i have been increasing my mind' concentration span), also now im starting to breath deep in the middle of a deep relaxation moment when im so relax that im not feeling that im breathing in enough air, it used to happen before but then it stopped (like 2 years ago) until now :\ it brings my attention to my body.

i was counting from 1 to 100 and i had to start the count a couple of times until i got to the 100th. i was practicing phasing and started hearing the voices, seeing things, feeling like pressure around my like im going to vibrate, feeling my astral hands loosing (for some reason they are always the first limbs that gets out of the body (some times i can vividly feel my astral arms moving at my will)) but some times the more deeply i relax the harder it becomes for me to concentrate :\ it took me a while to get to the 100th without letting the other thoughts interrupt me.

but im still making some progress with the phasing too i need to concentrate in one method only to try to AP, because i have also noticed that i start wondering in my mind trying different methods when i get too relax.

aaah, 0 gravity i want to xp that again 

last night 29/12/2011 before i felt asleep i was trying to induce myself back into that dream i had where i got to AP, until i fell asleep, and in the dream i had i was in a factory of cheese, and for some reason i knew that my time was gonna be up (i set up an alarm to wake up at 3:20am) and got mad in the dream and started yelling at others, until the alarm woke me up.

then i had a funny dream, xDDD it was a weird Spring Ad xDDD where a woman was gonna be bury in cement and some dudes came out of nowhere and started arguing about "mode" and then the Spring logo came out of no where and move towards the center and then to the left xDDD i was just watching this in 1st person i think xDDD

then i had another dream but that one was normal

then in the a fourth dream, i had it during the around 4:30am, i was running around again in underwear but this time i had the Gi (a karate outfit but, i was just wearing the upper part), then later on, i was in a karate school, where about 40 African kids where sitting, wearing black Gi and they were accusing me of killing their whole village, and i was standing there (i was watching all this in 2nd person) and asked them "what was the color of the Gi of the man that killed the people in of the village?" they said, black i got confuse for a second, i was wearing a black Gi, but it was white before, but i said my Gi is white (but was black xDDD),then i was in a high way close to Hudson river driving when i noticed one of my ex professors driving a truck that was putting pieces of a bridge together? , and then truck felt into the water and came out, and i told the professor that explode the car (for some reason i speaking more English in my dreams lately) and he parked the car in the middle of the side walk, and put some fire inside of the hole where you fill out the gas, then i looked back and saw the other drivers stopping, and then i looked to my front and saw an american man and an asian woman next to the truck on fire, and they didnt notice? that the truck was on fire (it hasnt explode yet) and i wanted to tell them to move away (i was thinking but i couldnt open my mouth) then the image started going away like farther, kinda looked like a picture in slow motion, and then i got the opportunity to talk and say "go away" but then i noticed that i had woke up but my eyes were still close keeping the picture of the last moment of the dream still alive in the blackness of my eyes :\

the end...

im thinking more, i got confuse, im running around more often in my underwear? but this time i had something on my upper body xDDD, i got to interact with scenario from the dream after i kind of woke up... making some progress...

keep dreaming...

Hello,

sometimes when im laying down and resting, or just woke up i can feel/hear for 1/2 second in my hears and sometimes body,  the buzzing sound of the vibrations, or feel a bit, bit of pressure on my body and sometimes i can feel the vibrations spreading from some point in my body but they just happen when im focus on some particular thought and desire i dont know how to explain it, it like an specific thought triggers it. but more often i can feel/hear several times for 1/2 the buzzing in my hears when im laying down without no intention of AP.

why is that?

Oh My Goddess, i didnt realize it before.  I have been brainwashing myself making associations for example: if a see my mom, im lucid dreaming, if i see X person im lucid dreaming. the reason why i associated my mom with "im dreaming" is because lately she has been appearing in my dreams a couple of days after i started trying to lucid dream.

so today when i dreamed about the "man-dog" i went into another dream after and i saw my mom talking something about vegetables. Then again this afternoon while i was doing the "im dreaming spotting" in my last mini dream i saw my mom again. I forgot about this association i made before, but my right side still remembers it. during the mini dream i got scare cuz i was doing something and she appeared behind me by surprise and i was like 'oh excrement, when did you came in? <.<!"

There were two factors and the last dreams i had the "man-dog" and the one i just had: i got scare "fear", the (in one i was suppose to feel pain when i got bite` by the man-dog's dog,// and in other one that just happened while i was doing the dream spotting the association that i made with my mother and dreaming).

There is some progress, but i need to be more logical in the moment somehow...

keep dreaming....

i was recalling my dreams a while ago, while i was in bed, and i was teaching myself to spot the weird moments of dreams when im suppose to become lucid, and from time to time i would fall into a dream and come back and remember the short mini dream xDDD and i notice one thing this time, in the last mini dream i had, i got scared, and i was more conscious of what i was doing but not lucid, but more conscious of my actions.

"Ah Lum Bah De Dum, Ah Lum Bar De Dum" thats a long mantra xDD

my mantra is "concentration, focus" and i imagine each syllable while i pronounce con-cen-tra-tion. to keep my mind focus on somethin visual too, and keep it away from imaging something else while im pronouncing the words.

i just spent 1h:30ms laying down on my bed xDDD new record. the old one was 30 minutes xDDD and them my body would make me roll over.

but during that time i was imaging that i was in the kitchen touching stuff with my hand and feeling them (i actually did that to do it in my imagination) and i could feel the pressure of my astral body but im not focus enough and i can feel my physical body, or i kind of run out air, or i breath deep and mess up the focus :\

just keep trying, and learning new things , symbol

so, today i didnt get to go to sleep early because i couldnt sleep i stayed up all night until 6 am something, and fall asleep staring at the blackness in my eyes (always works  ) and i dreamed that a "MAN-DOG" (not a werewolf, A MAN-DOG!!) tried to bite me or kill me or something and i was trying to defend myself, but i since i saw him transforming (WTF? and i didnt notice that that was weird <.<! first time in my life that i see a MAN-DOG in my dreams and i dont think is weird u_u!) and i knew that it was a guy, and that he was angry for some reason therefor i was trying to talk to the MAN-DOG while some guys were trying to stop him, but the MAN-DOG came along with a dog (xDDD) and the dog bite me on my left hand (and i notice that i could feel pressure but not pain 7_7 really, i notice the presurre but no pain u_u! damn it) and my hand was pale but i didnt mind that too much (but, hey, i saw my hand (and it didnt come to my head to do a reality check 7_7, MAN-DOG) then i was trying to keep away the MAN-DOG with a stick but the man dog then took a shoe and tried to hit me with it xDDD and i threw myself on the floor and thought "i have to face him" (yeah, im thinking more ofthen than usual in my dream, becoming a bit more logic a the time i guess xDD) but then i was in another scenario ... thats other dreams, not too weird as the MAN-DOG one.

the mistake in this dream is mine because i have become so passive (in real life) that even when somebody tries to attack me i stay calm analyzing the opponent, waiting for the first punch to be thrown so i can move in and attack, im not a violent person, and the things that triggers anger in myself are few. My head is trying to wake me up by using this means of fear and anger but so far is not working to well xDD the only thing that made me angry was to see "it" sitting down on a chair in my house (first lucid dream were i became lucid, first of the thread) it was so disrespectful and such a defying  action (from "it") that i got angry and as a product gain lucidity.

since i started seeking lucidity, i have been having such a bunch of weird dreams xDD ,, so far i know that my right side of the brain does understand what i want, but i cant still become lucid using the right side as my support, some how i have to find a way to trigger the left side to become more rational. 

keep dreaming...

maybe <.<!

yeah, i have been incinerating things in my head lately when im doing the RCs, besides jumping and singing, and tossing a coin xDD

i have been researching more for a way to keep the left side of the brain active: some ppl say that doing math problems btwn dreams, other inducing the dream, and me: i had a chat with my left side of the brain yesterday and tonight dream 12,28,2011 proves it. <its like a summary of all the research i gathered while i was awake xDDD but during the dreams.

i have prove that the right side of the brain does understand what i want but during the dreams i cant understand the signals that ARE SO OBVIOUS!!

I explain myself: today 12,28,2011 had one dream which involved time, i was in a train station and i was talking to someone on the phone about taking the train, but i was late and i asked the time the next train would depart. it was 2, or maybe 3:30pm when i asked in the dream, and the train would departs at 7:30pm.

then i woke up because of the alarm i put to interrupt the REM cycle (3:20am) ... wrote down the dream, then went back to sleep some time i dont remember after how many minutes, but i didnt get out of bed.

Then in another dream (which was very vivid): i was in the college, siting in a bench and the sun was very brigth, i was looking at my class schedule and i was worrying about a math class that i was gonna have some time (i looked at the schedule the math class was around was like around 2 pm) and i thinking that i saw somebody who makes me mad when i see him (again the factor of anger makes me gain lucidity) but i didnt get mad (i usually dont get mad in dreams when i see him :\ bad)

Then another dream (i think after the other one) and that one involved me telling one of my brothers to keep it down because somebody maybe sleeping, and i also turned on a light <.<! (which is not supposed to happen i think during dreams xDDD that reality check failed (but i wasnt aware of the action, or maybe somebody else turned the light on)).

Then another dream and this one was kind of crazy xDDD i joined the army xDD and the military base was in my middle school (again, the place from another dream (but im familiar with the place)), i saw a couple of girls that i worked with during a summer job at a high school two years ago, i knew that i worked with them but they didnt recognized me, some soldiers where bulling other soldiers (bulling pisses me off (again the mad factor) i have to stop being passive) but in the dream i was questioning the situation (a bit of "why is happening?") then went back to my room in the dream to change clothes because i had a math class to attend (math... left side of the brain <.<! hello, math? thats the last subject i would think of xp), then i was running around just wearing my underwear (hey, isnt that a classic dream or nightmare part? xDDD)

all i know is that for me i never went back to sleep after i woke up at 3:20am but i wrote down this 3 dreams that apparently came in 1 dream (Random Dream, RD) because i was looking at my cellphone clock at 4:40, 5:15, 5:49 am until i got out of bed, but i dont know at what time i dream them, all i know is that i wrote them down some time during those time above and stayed laying down on my bed for the rest of the hour until i got out.

as a result of the "chat" i had with my right side of the brain, all this clues where left for me in the dreams: the "time", "math", "bulling", and "sleep". and also i have been thinking more during my dreams lately, and doing things that i just usually do when im awake.

No the question is how can i understand these signals, since the right side of the brain is understanding them and trying to communicate with me, but i cant still be rational. and the funny part is that men has invented 1000s of chemicals but not even one to keep active the left side of the brain during the sleep process 7_7, but i know that magnetic fields can turn on and off the brain... but that's out of my reach xDD

i have keep making research on how to keep the left side of the brain active during sleep (to be logical) and become lucid and i came across a image that divides the 2 sides of the brain and i noticed that the right side of the brain is the one that has the non-verbal there for the meaning of the snake is that my mind was communicating me the key to become lucid (in the dream i was told that the snake communicates in sign language (it has been throwing me one or two clues while im dreaming per dream).

thinking and thinking, doing reality checks every 15 minutes (which is kind of working... because im doing things in my dreams which i do not usually do but in reality) i noticed that doing them in a way to see the logic in reality and become lucid during a dream probably may not be so effective as doing the reality checks and looking at them as a form of art.

Hello,

i have been practicing phasing following Xanth's Phasing Primer instructions and i have been learning to notices and no get distracted at the blackness of my eyes and then noticing in the back of my eyes (<o <o) so its cool i have been doing since this morning, but this afternoon i was doing the first two practices on noticing and while i was noticing i felt asleep and have a dream then i woke up and wrote it, then stated noticing again i had another dream and woke up and wrote it, ...

then again i started noticing in the back of my eyes and suddenly i was dreaming, and there was a girl with grey hair and the background of my eyes or in the back of my eyes!/? (in the blackness), with dark eyes, and  dark eye liner, she was smiling i think, she look nice, and then i voice said "you must know how to make a identical double that you can recognize when you see it, and you must know how to perfect kiss..." and then i woke up, and wrote what i remember.

the only part that i dont get is the "perfect kiss", maybe it was referring to know who to AP perfectly, or maybe was something else <.<!

Thanks Xanth :3

Hello,

Yesterday, during the whole day i was doing my reality check eery 15 minutes or when i see something weird as normal, did some exercise before bed while i kept repeating myself "whats the mission? to have LD, whats the objective? to recognize that im dreaming" <.<! just to me sure that my mind remembers to check.

I took one B12 vitamin before bed and try to fall asleep but i never actually felt a sleep as long as i remember, not until like 5 am when i had a dream of which i only remember the end of it, and then i took some melatonin to try to fall asleep because its almost morning and then i felt asleep and had a strange dream, nothing out of normal, not like the other 3 random dreams in one dream.

Then i remember what Xanth said about meditation and ok decided to "meditate" for a while (that was my cover up to try to AP without telling my body xDDD) so i spent 1hour (yay, doubled my time laying down doing nothing xDDDD) and decided to go with the must basic technique i have ever read before "let the body relax by itself, and just focus on your point of awareness" and so i did, and even though i got distracted a couple of time i went back to my point of awareness until a couple of times i realize that i was just focus on it and that it but when i realized i was thinking that i was doing it xDD so i was not focus on it anymore, but i stick to it and kept focusing on it, i even felt a sleep for a second but i came back and focus on it, even when i was thinking something else i just kept thinking on my point of awareness.

After 1 hour, i just decided to turn over, and try to fall asleep, then i was thinking about the last dream i had, and suddenly i could hear the sound in my ear increasing for a second every time i was focusing on remembering a part of the dream, but i had drank too much water and that was not going to let me focus xDDD but hey, i spent a hour sticking to my point of awareness with the fail and try method xDD and after it i could for a second hear the increase of sound in my ear, thats a progress 

...too bad i couldnt have random dreams.

no <.<!

u almost got it xDDD

and you are complaining almost archiving it? wow, just keep trying xDD

i got out the other day though a dream, and im still trying to have lucid dreams, doing reality checks every 15 minutes xDDD

i wish i could stay in bed like that for 3 hours, but my body gets annoy after 30 minutes of laying down xDDD

i know what you are going through, i have been trying for 4 years, and the first time i got the vibrations 4 years ago i couldnt get out cuz i was not relax and i didnt know how to get out xDDD (stupid gnosis ppl 7_7)

just keep trying and trying, and check where you are failing.

now i do not relax my body, i let it relax.

i do not try to put away my thought i talk to them sometimes and now i also talk in my mind and make stories to distract myself from having other thoughts xDD so my mind is occupied and other thought cant interrupted me talking or just focus on thinking whatever and let it go on until your brain waves are low then you wont have much to think about, then just focus. As soon as you star seen things, and flash and hearing sounds then you know that your body is on its way to sleep then be ready to stay conscious.

just keep trying