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Hi,
I was surfing the internet earlier and found the following link to the 'The Scole experiment group':

http://www.psisci.force9.co.uk/

There is some very interesting information contained on this site as well as some startling photographs, be sure to have a look at the 'Photo album'.

Their findings have also been published in book form too, the book can be found by making a quick search of Amazon under the title 'The Scole Experiment: Scientific Evidence for Life After Death'.

Cheers

S

Hi,
I had another spirit dream last night, just as profound as the last one but this time it involved a negative or confused entity.

The unusual aspect of this dream was that later in the dream I started to have another dream, a dream within a dream so to speak.

It's the first time that this has ever happened to me and I can honestly say it was really quite strange but helped solve the mystery of the troubled spirit.

Anyway here is the dream extract, again excuse the length, this is the whole entry I recorded immediately upon waking this morning, any insights would be much appreciated.

"My family and I have moved to either Canada or the north of America, my family are all a few years younger than they are now, although I feel I am roughly the same age as I am now.

They have bought a very large house in the countryside, it is of wooden construction, from outside the wooden panels of the house are painted a bottle green colour and I feel the house was built at around the beginning of the 20th century.

Inside the house is very cluttered and dim, piles of newspapers lie scattered around, it hasn't been lived in for a long time, we have moved some of our belongings in but everything is still quite unorganised.

Throughout the house are large bay windows which at least two people could use as a place to sit, the windows appear to leak when it rains. Realising that this will damage the wood eventually I suggest to my step father that we could cover the area with linoleum, he agrees, at this point he leaves the house to start working his nightshift.

I glance out of the bay window I am standing next to and see that it has started to snow lightly.

It doesn't take long before the rest of us all realise that there is somebody else there with us is in the house, to start with we don't realise it for what it is, the presence seems to be mischievous at first but then plain malicious.

It soon starts to frighten everyone and it is not long before the spirit starts to become intimate with me, I feel it try and enter my body, it brushes against and through me, the experience is quite painful as it passes in and out of my body.
Occasionally it passes through my head, the sensation is very unpleasant and feels like what I imagine an epileptic seizure to feel like, but once the spirit is in for any length of time the pain subsides and I am left feeling very disoriented.

I don't have much control over my voice and I vaguely hear myself laughing in a catatonic and disturbing way, occasionally I speak but what I say is either jumbled, doesn't make any sense or I cannot hear it properly.

My sisters are absolutely petrified by what is happening, my mother is also afraid but appears to have retreated upstairs, the spirit when talking and laughing speaks through my voice but occasionally this slips and it becomes a more guttural animal kind of sound, I and my sisters upon hearing this realise that it's not me putting on some kind of show as it sounds so unnatural.

In this state I also feel as if I have little or no control over my limbs, I feel as if the spirit is trying to control me too but he doesn't seem to be having much success either, I try to force the spirit out of me by controlling my breathing, keeping calm and concentrating very hard, this appears to work for very short periods but he soon returns when my concentration drops.

I find myself in one of my sisters rooms upstairs, I'm tearing pieces of fabric which appear to be attached to a dressing gown, I don't understand why I am doing this.

One of my sisters has decided she has had enough and goes outside into the garden, it is now evening and dark, she wants me to pass her baby to her, the baby is naked and I tell her that it is too cold outside and that it could die of exposure, she insists so I wrap the baby in a blanket and pass the child to her outside where she is sat.

Back inside the house a guiding voice in my head tells me that if I take some charcoal out of the fireplace and rub it on my hands the spirit won't be able to come near any of us, I take a piece of spent wood from out of the unlit hearth and rub it on my hands and tell my youngest sister to do the same, I sit down in an easy chair holding a piece of charcoal in each hand.

My aunty has arrived with her friend, she has just come down the stairs after comforting my mother, her friend pulls the hood up on her duffle coat and pulls a scary face at me, she is trying to wind me up, I tell her angrily to stop being so bloody stupid.

My Aunty starts asking why am I doing all of this and upsetting everybody, she also comments on the amount of books that I have upstairs concerning spirituality, I try and explain to her that I have had these books a long time.
As I sit there listening to all of this I loose my grip on the pieces of charcoal and feel the spirits influence once again, I start to laugh and snigger at my aunt, realising what is happening I clutch the lumps of charcoal quickly.

She then makes an admission to me that whilst she has been in the house she has seen bright sparks of light in the air and also dark sparks of light too, I tell her that I have seen exactly the same thing.

As the evening draws on my aunt and her friend leave, my younger sister and mother reluctantly go upstairs to sleep, I also go into the same room to go to sleep, there is some activity in the room but we all manage to fall asleep.

I have a dream where I hear the same guiding voice that advised me to use the charcoal, the voice explains that the spirit who is restless in the house was a medical doctor in the US military, I am then shown a blurry still image in my minds eye of a hospital camp in an open area of a jungle, a thought of the television series MASH is also projected into my mind.

The guide continues it's story by telling me that the war the doctor was taking part in had actually come to an end and the vast majority of soldiers and personnel were returning or had returned home, the doctor was obliged to stay on for a short while to continue helping out, it was at this point that the doctor was involved in an accident that took his physical life.

I think and presume to myself that perhaps the doctor felt like he didn't deserve to die in what he felt was a meaningless way especially after the war had ended, and maybe he is still angry about this.

The guide stops talking and I realise with a certain amount of consciousness that I am dreaming within in a dream, I feel myself come back or fall one level, I am back in the bed in the old house, I sense my sister and mother to my left, they are asleep.

The room is now lit quite well but it feels as if it has been lit for my benefit, the light has a special quality to it and it is unlike an electric light.
I feel that I am paralysed but remain calm, my vision is obscured from the right by colourful abstract images, but from the left I clearly and quite lucidly see, hovering just above my head a small soap bubble sized black ball of what looks like tangled string or hair, I know and feel that this is the spirit of the doctor looking down and watching me."

The feeling that the dream left me with upon waking was one of 'If you continue to go down this path then this is what you can expect to see' the feeling was neither positive or negative.

Out of curiosity I did a quick search on the internet to see if there was any truth in the using of the charcoal as a ward or protection.

I found that some Mayan priests and other ancient peoples used charcoal and herbs in the form of smudge sticks or incense to help spirits find where they belong and to help them find the 'Other side'.

I was quite surprised by this and had no previous conscious knowledge of it being used for this purpose, anyway thanks for reading.

Cheers

S

Last night I experienced some real progress with my Phasing efforts, it didn't occur in the way I expected or planned it too, I was hoping that I might be able to Phase as my body fell asleep but what happened was that I managed to Phase from a Lucid dream, here is a description of how it happened:

"It is night time and I am walking along the path which leads to a local D.I.Y. store, there doesn't appear to be any activity going on and all is very tranquil, I cross the road which has no cars travelling on it. I meet a group of youths in the empty car park of the D.I.Y. centre, I am going to show them how to have an OBE. I now feel myself lying down on my back in the dark in what feels to be the storage area in the back of a van, it's at this point I become lucid and conscious of what I am trying to do"

'In the darkness I push and will myself forward, I feel as if I have been squeezed from a washing up liquid bottle into a richer blackness, I have a strong feeling of detachment, the disconnected feeling lasts for two or three seconds.'

'I am very surprised and think to myself that the transition was very smooth, I also feel fearful as I am not accustomed to this strange new feeling, suddenly I feel as if I have dropped backward into the 'Event Horizon' of the now un-squeezed washing up liquid bottle.'

'I feel myself being sucked back to my body, the return is rapid but smooth, the sensation I get when I return to my body is as if I am wearing earplugs and somebody has hit me on the head with a pillow, on returning my hearing is very acute and I can hear a purring or whirring sound.'

I really feel as if I have made some progress here, unfortunately the fear got the better of me but that's not so bad considering it was my first time using this method, I didn't see any RTZ features which is also something that strikes me as being a good characteristic of a phased projection.

I've also got the flu at the moment and feel a bit drained of energy, probably not the best time to be trying to project I suppose, I think I'll take a day or two's rest until I'm really back on form before trying again. The thing is when opportunities are created or present themselves like this they are just too good not to act on them!

Cheers

S

I have often had dreams of seeing spirits and apparitions but the dream mentioned below is the first time I have ever made contact with one.

I woke up this morning at about eight O'clock to go to the bathroom, I made a few notes about that nights dreams and then went back to bed and had the following very vivid dream.

"It is day time and I am outside an old Regency styled terraced house in a quiet street, I am with one or two other people I feel I know, I see movement in an upstairs window of the house, I look closer and see a middle aged lady beckoning me into the house, I leave the others and enter into the house, my younger sister is following just behind me, I meet the lady and she tells me to go on up the stairs and I will find what I have been looking for.

I climb the stairs, they are painted in white paint, so are the walls, the building has old style wooden beams set in the walls and ceiling, the staircase is very narrow and crooked as if the house were built a long time ago, to my right I step through a very low door which leads onto a very long corridor, my sister follows just behind me and we crouch or sit down at one end.

The corridor appears to be about 100 metres long, we sit just before a step which leads onto a landing which runs the length of the corridor. As I look down to the the other end of the corridor I see a little girl open the door in the distance, I know what I am witnessing is some kind of spiritual phenomena, at first I am utterly petrified as the vision unfolds.

The girl makes her way down the corridor eventually reaching me, as she gets closer I see that she is very small and is probably only six or seven years old, she is wearing a long white lace nightgown and has blond hair cut into a bowl or short bob style, I realise that she means me no harm and my fear vanishes, I feel foolish to think that she could have harmed me, now my fear has gone I become absorbed in this amazing phenomena.

I ask the child when she was born, she tells me 1555, I see that she carries a soft toy, the toy has a modern looking tag attached to it, as I see it I become suspicious but I quickly disregard this as it suddenly occurs to me that somebody else in the spirit world from another time must have given it to her, I ask the child "Somebody gave you that toy didn't they?" she tells me "yes".

The more I look at her face the greater the detail I see, her face has an almost opaque light blue quality to it which for some reason reminds me of the moon. I have a stick of chocolate covered toffee in my pocket and ask her if she would like some, she tries to take some but it seems to smear or just melt away off her fingers and onto mine, as she takes her hand away from the toffee I momentarily manage to touch her hand, I am surprised as she feels quite natural and solid.

She says that she now has to go but sends 'aural thoughts' into my head of her calling for her mother, the last thing that she says to me is that she wants me to come back the following weekend, she is very firm about this last request and I feel that she almost wants me to promise her that I will.

With that she heads off back down the corridor towards the door, she peers around once more to say goodbye and the door gently closes, all the while my sister didn't seem to hear any of the things being said and I'm not even sure if she could see the little girl.

The whole corridor now seems to transform and takes on a more modern appearance, for example the landing is now carpeted and before it was just wood, sat in an easy chair at the far end of the corridor is an old Indian lady, I feel that she is wise and knowledgeable. She has a daughter aged about fifteen or sixteen sat to her right in a similar chair, I make small talk with the young girl.

The old lady tells me to come closer, I tell her the reason that I didn't come any closer at first was because I didn't want to invade their privacy, this is a lie and the old woman knows it, I feel afraid of her but I move closer, I feel stupid for trying to make up such a stupid excuse.

I feel that my sister has now either left or has stayed at the other end of the corridor. The lady and her daughter appear to have their belongings placed all around on coffee tables and on the floor, I see objects ranging from books to pots of jam and butter on the tables, this is how they seem to live. I tell the lady that I can help her by arranging her belongings so she has more space and so that things are tidier and she is more comfortable.

She seems quite uninterested by my suggestion and I know that she thinks that I am either trying to do this to gain favour with her or to avoid a topic that I know she wants to discuss, I also feel that this is what I am trying to do too.

The old lady wants to know about my vision of the little girl, she tells me that a good friend of theirs recently had a miscarriage, as I look to my left I see the daughter take on the appearance of a pregnant woman, she appears to be in great pain, this metamorphosis appears to be for my benefit to show me the pain of the other woman.

I turn back to the old lady, she asks me all about the details of the spirit child I met, I give her the age and date of birth, the old lady is visibly disappointed by my information, she clearly wanted to hear a different description, presumably about the miscarried child, we end our conversation there and I leave."

I'm still working on the symbolism of this dream as it quite complex and overlaps in places, I'd be very grateful for any input from the members here on the above dream and to hear about any of your experiences with spirit contact in dreams.

Cheers

S

I have been looking for some information regarding how many 'Focus' points are used by the Monroe institute to signpost the various states of expanded awareness they explore?

Do the Focus points start at Focus 1 for example, or do the they begin at some other number, and where do they end?

I am familiar with a few of the 'F' numbers already but would be most grateful if one of the more knowledgeable members here would be able to point me in the direction of or provide a list of each focus point with it's corresponding characteristic.

I have tried looking on the Internet but have only found reference to a few of the Focus point numbers but not a complete list, many thanks for all of the help that you can provide.

Cheers

S

Dream extract from morning of 17/09/04:

"I see a news headline, I see words written something along the lines of 'The (something) they didn't want you see', the story concerns flowing water on Mars, I see an image of a very large expanse of water, it is almost like a sea but I feel that it is actually a massive river, as I look past the water to the horizon I see a small star, I take this to be the planet earth."

Whilst browsing around the Writers forum earlier this evening I found a link (see below) to a radio station where Robert Bruce is due to give a talk this Saturday, as I scrolled down the home page of the radio station I saw an article in the 'Image gallery' entitled 'First Photo Ever of Earth from Mars Surface...Just a Tiny White Dot' accompanied by a fascinating photograph, the image is just as it was in my dream, gave me a real shock to see it, I'm not saying it's definitely precognition but it definitely gave me a surprise!

Here is the link to the website: http://www.cybercityradio.com/

I'll have to try and have a listen in to the show too!

I have recently discovered an intriguing website dedicated to the Independent Direct Voice medium Leslie Flint, see below for the link.

http://www.leslieflint.com/index.html

His story is a fascinating one and the samples of the sound recordings in the 'Audio Tapes' section are really quite remarkable, check it out and see what you think.

Hi All,
I don't normally visit this forum and don't have much knowledge of Magic either but would just like to share a true story with you that happened to me when I was younger and then ask a question or two at the end.

I'll first give a bit of background as to where the story took place...

When I was a child I lived with my parents in an old 18th Century house in the countryside in England.
When my parent's first moved in they made a few changes here and there and whilst decorating and renovating they found two bottles containing some hair and pins, one under the door step and one under the grate of the fireplace directly below the chimney.
I have heard that such bottles were placed in these locations in olden times to ward off evil spirits etc.

One evening on a particularly wet and stormy night a woman came and knocked on our door and asked if she could stay the night, my parents offered her a place to rest as our house was out in the middle of the countryside and quite a distance from the nearest shelter.

The woman as I remember would have been between the ages of late 40's to mid 50's, she had short grey hair and was wearing hiking clothes.
As she took off her rain jacket we were all surprised by her necklace, she had an Owl puppet hung from her neck, this was not a small regular pendant but unusually large about the same dimensions as that of a small oval potato and decorated very realistically.

The following morning the traveller left but from that point onward up until the time we left the house, an owl would regularly come and visit and land on a fence post at the bottom of our garden.

I guess that it could be just coincidence, but the story still sticks in my memory to this day, my parents later told me that neither of them slept that night as they had a strange feeling about the traveller!

My questions are,

Could this woman have been a witch, good or bad?

What could the Owl puppet/charm signify?

What does the Owl signify or represent in areas of Magic and the esoteric?

Do you think there could be link between the traveller and the Owl in the garden?

Other paranormal things happened at that house, but I'll save that for another time, many thanks for any answers you can provide.

Cheers

S

Hi All,
Have any of you ever had that feeling during the day when for just a fleeting moment you get a glimpse of a dream memory from the previous night or past?

I occasionally have moments during the day when for just a fraction of a second I remember a splinter of a dream that I had no re-call of upon wakening, it's as if I get the full essence of the dream condensed into a tenth of a second and no sooner has it impressed itself upon my memory it is gone.

The feeling I am left with afterwards is one of frustration at not being able to fully re-call the dream or memory and great surprise and curiosity at the fact the memory just seemed to pop up and make itself apparent without any prompting.

I consider my own dream re-call very good, I keep a dream diary and am able to remember what I think is everything that I have dreamt the night before, that is until I managed to dredge up and hold onto one of these surprising distant and murky dream memories a short while ago.

About three weeks go at the weekend I had gone shopping with my wife, as we made our way around the various parts of the supermarket we came to the frozen section where they keep all of the vegetables, chips and seafood etc, and it was here that something caught my eye.

There were some frozen squid in one part of the freezer unit, as soon as I saw them the memories of a dream I hadn't remembered up until that point came flooding back into my head in picture form.

Bear in mind that I had made my dream diary entry for the day and thought that I had re-called everything that I could remember.

What this actually dredged up was as follows; I remembered being in what looked like an empty shop looking outside, the shop had large glass windows, in fact the whole of the walls appeared to be glass, I could see a bland street scene outside where there was no activity.

In one corner of this room hovering about three feet above the floor was what I can only describe as a huge mass of light pink tentacles?

The tentacles were quite short and were writhing about in a slow hypnotic way, the size of this thing was quite large and in comparison to the room I would have estimated that it was about four feet high with a depth and width of about two or three feet, it's overall shape was oval.

I remembered not being afraid of this thing but being quite entranced by it whilst at the same time feeling nauseous and quite sick, there didn't appear to be any communication between either of us.

The longer I looked at it the more I felt drawn to it until I could eventually see that the tentacles were in fact fractals swirling and spinning about, I seemed to be getting closer and closer to this being, that was the last thing that I can re-call from the brief vision.

I was really surprised that I managed to actually hang onto this one fleeting glimpse and manage to see every part of the memory for what it was, furthermore and as I previously mentioned I thought that I had re-called all of my dreams for the previous night, and this one had almost slipped by unnoticed?

The only explanation I can think of for the moment is that it could be down to the mind split effect (something I have experienced before) I believe that it could have been an astral projection that I wasn't wholly conscious of, the memories were downloaded to the brain but weren't strong or vivid enough to be re-called immediately the following morning.

This is where the 'Trigger' comes in, in this case the squid at the supermarket. This all leaves me thinking that the brain probably harbours huge amounts of these experiences but it is just not possible to re-call them all due to their hazy and deep rooted nature.

The mass of tentacles could have been astral wildlife or a Neg perhaps? I'd probably go with the astral wildlife idea, the being did not seem to be too threatening and I have read that some astral wildlife often take on the form of squid and octopus like creatures as well as spiders, insects and snakes.

Anyway thanks for listening, I'd be really interested to hear stories from anybody else who has managed to capture and re-call any of those fleeting dream memories.

Cheers

S

Hi All,
I wasn't sure where to put this post but thought that this might be the right place as the subject matter is spirit related.

Has anybody ever heard of Orbs or ever photographed an Orb with a digital camera?

I have had a digital camera for a couple of months now and have taken probably over 500 pictures, I have noticed that on 3 of the pictures there is what looks like an Orb or Orbs.

The Orbs in the pictures are of a slightly irregular circular shape, white, with an outer feint blue haze or glow, inside the main circle there appears to be a further circle or circles forming an abstract delicate shape, it's not very easy to see as the image has to be enlarged considerably to make out the fine detail.

I have read on one or two websites that Orbs are thought to possibly be spirits or the first phase in a spirit apparition.

Could this just be down to the technology, something to do with the way digital cameras work? or could it really be a spirit captured on camera?

I'd be really interested to see what you think about the topic or if any of you have had taken any similar pictures.

Cheers

S

Hi All,
I have been listening to a very good meditation/relaxation CD for a while now and thought that you may be interested in it.

The CD isn't sold as an aid to Astral Projection but more as something to help achieve a relaxed or meditative state,

The CD is called Brain Wave Synchronization by a guy called Phil Reeve, you can buy the CD from this website: http://www.earthvibemusic.com/cd/brainwave.html  

The CD contains 3 tracks, Alpha waves, Theta waves & Delta waves and each track lasts approximately 25 minutes.

The tracks are a mixture of sounds from nature, Crystal bowls, etc overlaid with what sounds like white noise or a waterfall, there are no voices, singing or commentary with this CD something that I personally find less distracting and makes relaxing easier.

With this CD I really noticed the effect of the Brain Wave Synchronization, after listening to one of the tracks for a couple of minutes a strange effect starts to take place.
Out of the white noise another sound starts to surface, the sound is like a helicopter rotor or a chugging sound, apparently the brain creates this sound as a result of frequencies imbedded in the waterfall like sound.

I have experimented with BWGen but never heard the rotor like sound that I hear with the above CD, has anybody heard this effect using a preset with BWGen? I'd be very interested to know.

I have tried listening to the CD without earphones and can't hear the rotor sound so it appears to really work! All three tracks are very relaxing and it's not as expensive as some of the other AP or Binaural beat CD's on sale, I really recommend this one.

Cheers

S

Hi All,
I had another opportunity to have an Oobe this morning but decided to abort it half way through, it seems like a silly thing to have done now but at the time I thought it was for the best.

This experience started at what felt like a few minutes prior to 0417Hrs, this being the time I saw on my bedside clock immediately after the experience ended.

It all started with an aural dream, something that is very strange for me as all of my dreams are always accompanied by visions of some type.

I could hear the voice of an American male his age I would guess from his voice would have been between 25 to 40 years old, he sounded as if he were a commentator, newsreader or narrator of some sort, he proceeded to speak the following.

"Osama Bin Laden has been captured, some of our toughest people have cracked under the strain of this experiment. (by this I seemed to know that he meant some kind of experiments to do with the soul or spirit using psychics or remote viewers), a mother..."

That was the last thing I heard before the vibrations started, they started in the centre of my body slowly spreading out, I had a little energy activity in my head and was aware afterwards of the tone in the background (Chakra tone?).

After having the vibrations and already experiencing an oobe not so long ago I knew that I could have left my body if I wished too, this time though I decided to abort as the auditory dream had had slightly negative overtones and it just didn't feel like a good idea to continue.

I remember nothing that could have influenced this aural experience such as watching the news etc before going to bed.

A few interesting things I noted about this were that normally I try and eat early in the evening as I have heard that eating late at night isn't very helpful if you are trying to oobe, but last night I ate quite heavily about one hour before going to sleep.

I also noted that the Moon has just started it's Waxing phase, the last time I experienced an oobe was also in this phase (I keep a chart to note oobe occurrences against the phases of the moon), I did not experience any oobe's or vibrations in the waning part of the Moon's cycle this month.

Thanks for listening

S

Hi All,
Excuse my excitement! but at the moment I am still a bit stuck for words but I shall try and explain my first real total out of body experience anyway! Excuse the length of my post, I'll try and keep it as short as possible.

The experience was very brief but made a strong and lasting impact, I'll start with the events leading up to my first oobe.

Evening of Saturday May 1st 2004 & Morning of Sunday May 2nd 2004

9:00pm to 9:30pm - Played about with Bwgen and created a Theta binaural beat, listened for roughly 5 to 10 minutes.

10:00pm to 10:30pm - Ate late and Had a snack before going to bed, also watched T.V. for 15mins.

11:30pm - Went to bed but didn't fall asleep immediately, had thoughts of having an oobe in my head.

12:00am - Probably fell asleep at some point just before midnight.

5:00am -5:30am - Became aware of the vibrations or electrical fuzziness, tried constantly to keep the vibes continuous, they fluctuated on and off for what seemed like quite a while, the thought of having an oobe was now constant in my mind.

Tried repeatedly, probably 6 or 7 times concentrating on the vibrations and the accompanying sensations, felt a lot of intense energy sensations in my head.

After a while of experiencing just the vibrations I very almost considered giving up, but thought that if I don't persist and concentrate then I'll never be able to do this, and then it just happened!
   
The exit sensations were extremely light, I felt that I must have left through my head, I then rolled or floated down my body pausing above what I assumed were my legs, this was a strange position to be in, something like being in a diving jackknife position except horizontal, normally I wouldn't be able to assume this position due to a bad back.

As I rolled down my body I was aware of a tearing or ripping sound very much like the sound of Velcro being pulled apart.

I was also aware that I didn't have human form or size, I would say that I must have been about the size of a tennis ball.

Visibility was at first poor then became just a little blurred, but good enough for me to make out the wall and door of my bedroom just in front of me, some 1 to 1.5 metres from my bed.
   
At this point including the exit I would say that I must have travelled roughly 3.5 metres in total.
I must also add that travelling this short distance had not been easy, movement had seemed a little slow and quite sluggish, I felt like I veered off to the left ever so slightly as I tried to move forward.

It was unfortunately now that I had the frustrating urge to turnaround and look at my body , as soon as  I thought this I had a strange mind split effect, I felt like I was in both places at once, I also felt as if I was opening my physical eyes, which I later realised I was  not.

The entry sensations were also light and not at all uncomfortable, time had appeared to slow up quite a bit as the short distance I travelled had seemed to take me a while, but after looking at my bedside clock the experience was actually quite brief.

Through the whole experience I could hear the familiar ringing or humming sound  which originally gave way to a vertigo like sensation in my head.

So that's it my first oobe! I'm still quite in awe and am glad that I am putting this down in writing as I would say that as the day progresses it would be easy to reflect back on the experience and see it in a different and perhaps less credible light, let me stress that this was in no way and totally unlike any dream I have ever experienced.

If I had to name a few things that were important in achieving my first oobe then for me it would have to be: Relaxed physical state, Peaceful state of mind, Focus and lots of concentration, determination, willpower, and a total lack of fear.

Thanks for listening!

S

     

Hi All,
I have been having a few more OBE related experiences just lately, I would just like to share one of them and perhaps see if anyone else has experience anything similar.

The experience started a few minutes before 1:20am in the morning about 1 week ago.

I managed to get myself into the body asleep/mind awake state, I had been asleep for about 3 hours previous but managed to put myself into the above state by constantly thinking about OBEing just before going to bed.

As I became aware I could feel the most tremendous vibrations, like my whole body was buzzing from head to toe, it felt as though I had a field of electricity about 50 centimetres deep surrounding my whole body.

The next part was very interesting but first I 'll elaborate a little before explaining what happened.

I have read a post on this forum in the not so distant past regarding the high pitched whistling tone that some people can hear when they are surrounded by silence.

I can hear this tone all of the time if I concentrate, even in a busy room with lot's of noise, but I am unable to change the pitch of the tone in any great way.

Anyway during this OBE experience I was aware of the tone in the background as I was feeling the vibrations, after a short while the pitch suddenly raised to such a point that it was almost unbearable.

Unfortuntaly I aborted the attempt due to over excitement, I felt that I was very close to, or may even have actually OBE'd but as this is only about the 3rd or 4th attempt I've made I'll guess that I just have to put it down to inexperience.

The most amazing thing I found the next day was that this experience had caused some physical symptoms, for most of the day I had a fluttering sensation in my eardrums similar to when you get water in your ears at the swimming pool, but not quite as bad.
Before you ask my ears are quite clean [] and I don't currently have or have never had any hearing problems, neither do I have any electrical items in my bedroom that would have caused such a highpitched noise.

Anyway I shall keep on persisting, I feel that I am very close now, my only problem would appear to be not related to fear or anything like this but more to do with controlling my excitement, it's as if I can feel that I am just on the point of projecting or leaving my body when my excitement get's the better of me and I lose my focus.

Thanks for listening.

S

Hi All,
Since recapturing my interest in all things to do with astral projection over the past few weeks I have noticed that my dreams have started to reflect this interest too, below is one that I had three days ago.

The dream wasn't a particularly long one but quite memorable (I have no problem remembering my dreams in the morning).

The dream took place in a small, bland dimly lit room not comforting but not unpleasant either, in the room was a man sat at a table he was I estimate in his mid forty's this man was a spirit medium, also in the room accompanying him was a younger woman probably between Twenty and Thirty years old.

I for my part in the dream was just an observer and I don't believe that the two people mentioned above were aware of my presence.
The woman possessed some mediumistic skills which the man was trying help her improve.

In the dream the woman became aware of a spirit presence, she described the spirit as wearing a tracksuit and said that she could also smell the spirit too.

The next part of the dream was quite strange, the spirit attempted to enter the body of the woman at which point I became conscious myself.

The dream at this point had now ended, and I was now in the familiar paralysed state with the feeling of considerable pressure on my chest.

I am familiar with the paralysed sensation from previous oobe experience and I believe that this sensation probably always accompanies oobes and comes just before leaving or returing to the body afterwards.

I think that lucidity in dreams is variable and not just 'On' or 'Off'.
What I mean by that is that for me the lucidity is like a dial where it can switch between an infinite amount of lucidity, very low (poor dream re-call or no dreams to re-call perhaps) right up to total lucidity with the ability to alter the dream as it happens.

For me though there seems to be a fine line between total lucidity in the dream and the shift to consciousness in the paralysed body (desirable for oobe's I believe) and also actually pulling yourself out of sleep altogether.

I'd be interested to see what others have to say about lucidity in dreams, I have a few other dreams I'd like to share sometime too, but this post has been going on a bit now so that'll do for the time being!

Thanks for listening

S

Hi to everyone,
It's my first time on this forum and I would just like to share some strange experiences regarding what I think might be oobe's, I would much appreciate any feedback from anyone who has had similar experiences or who might know what these experiences might be.

I would just start by saying that I have always been interested in the paranormal, and have had one or two psychic experiences as a child, but it is only recently that I have been reading more books about oobe's and astral projection etc.

About one month ago I was woken early in the morning by a loud cracking noise, something similar to electrical static but really quite loud, I wondered what it was but being only half awake I dropped back off to sleep.

About  three weeks later I was awoken by the same noise only this time it was accompanied by a bright flash of white light, I also had the strangest feeling of what I can only describe as something being pushed against and into my face, that something felt warm and had the texture of what I would imagine a jellyfish has.

Looking back at the second experience I cannot recall which order the event's happened in, but I'm absolutely certain that this was no dream.

This morning I awoke at about six O'clock and I consciously desired to attempt something akin to an obe.

As I drifted back to a deep relaxation and after how much time I can't be certain, I suddenly became aware that there was something walking, crawling or flapping over my face, although I didn't have any fear it was quite startling and I thought  that my cat had gotten into the bedroom and was walking on my head (as this was what the experience felt like).

As soon as I mentally realised that I had locked the bedroom door and he wasn't in there with me I snapped out of it.
I had felt like that I had left my body ever so slightly and on return to my body I found that I couldn't move, I remained fearless and this paralysed sensation disappeared soon after.

I tried to go back into the state again but by this time I was becoming more alert and my mind was starting to fill up with the usual day to day things.

I shall continue trying to fully leave my body more often as I feel that I am getting quite close to achieving it, but as I said I would be very interested to see what others have to say regarding my above experiences.

Many thanks and excuse the length of my post!

S

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Hi Marc,
I can really identify with you regarding these unwanted thoughts, I often had thoughts that were always out of character and were often concerned with subjects that I would never dream of acting out or upon. It's something that I had suffered with for a long time until I found a solution to the problem.

One recommendation I would start with is to not suppress these thoughts, in my case this has always resulted in simply worsening the situation, sooner or later the thought will return with a vengeance, and can often be more distressing than before it was suppressed.

A simple example to show the effects and power that thought suppression has is as follows:

Sit in a comfortable and quiet place. Now, think of a Giraffe continuously for one minute (yes I know it sounds strange but bear with me!), have a friend time you with a watch. Raise your finger anytime the Giraffe disappears from your mind.

How did you do? You may have found that it was difficult to think and focus on the Giraffe for the full length of time, and that you raised your finger often.

Ok, now reverse the above experiment and try Not to think of a Giraffe for one minute. How did it go? You may have found that by suppressing the thoughts of the Giraffe and trying not to think about it you actually ended up paradoxically generating more thoughts and images.

The technique I use to overcome these unwanted thoughts is to become a passive observer of them. When a negative or unpleasant thought comes into my mind I briefly acknowledge it's presence but pay it no attention and certainly don't let it antagonize or frustrate me, no matter how repulsive or upsetting it is.

I then calmly and quietly observe the thought as if it were a cloud floating and dissipating in a clear blue sky as it silently passes through my mindscape. You may prefer to use visualisations of your own that hold more relevance or power for you.

I do actually believe in what are referred to as 'Negs', disruptive and unpleasant thought forms if they are paid/fed enough attention/energy can take on a life and identity all of their own. I have often come across such thought forms in my dream state and their appearance is always the same; invertebrate, repulsive, base and parasitic in nature.

Speaking to a close and trustworthy member of the family or a best friend about these thoughts and how you feel can be a very cathartic experience, and will often help relieve a great deal of the burden.

If this is not possible then try writing down the thoughts that disturb you, then take some time away from what you have written. Return a day or two later when you have a clear and still mind and read what you previously wrote, remembering to do so from the viewpoint of an observer, try and provide a rational critique of what you have written.

Take care, and remember don't be provoked or antagonised by these thoughts, pay them no heed and they will soon starve and wither.

Kind regards

S

(Giraffe lesson taken from the book 'The Imp of the Mind: Exploring the silent epidemic of obsessive bad thoughts' by Lee Baer.

Hi,
Thanks for sharing such a captivating account of your experience! The characters and landscape have great depth and richness, and you managed to recall a great deal of detail, I love adventures such as these, they can rest in memory for a long time after the event.

I found very interesting what Frank said about people having other aspects of themselves and that they can come across as other people, but form the whole of a persons character.

Perhaps such experiences are a kind of individuation? Looking from a Jungian perspective, maybe we are projecting out characterisations of the self, the Ego, the Anima/Animus and the Shadow and performing a kind of role-play as a means of personal growth?

The above is only an idea and I don't mean to detract from your wonderful experience, I too have often had experiences with characters where they truly do have a life and identity of their own.

Characters often provide me with advice, information or simple chit chat that seems quite random and spontaneous, this can often be very surprising and startling to hear such an impromptu or unforced remark!

I really like your idea of trying to draw your experience, this is something that I do on a regular basis as well as keeping a written account. I find pictures have much more power for capturing a scene or a moment.

Another technique you could try is to take clippings from old magazines and make a collage of the landscape, scenery and characters. These montages can often work quite well and have a photographic quality that can capture the surreal essence and mood of these kinds of adventures.

Thanks again!

S

Hi,
One thing I can relate to with your dreams is that of authorities, I occasionally have dreams of authorities, authority figures and institutions, the atmosphere in these dreams is often heavy and oppressive, I feel torn between having to follow the rules of others and being free and doing as I would wish.

You say that being chased by the authorities is a common theme in all of your 'Stealing dreams', maybe that is worth looking into further?

I find that keeping a dream journal is an excellent way of reviewing recurring dream symbols, many dream symbols can be personal to the dreamer so looking in dream dictionaries may not offer accurate advice, over time and with similar dream experiences the true meaning of the symbol should become apparent.

In my case recurring dreams are often the higher self's way of trying to make issues apparent to me that I either could be suppressing or ignoring or that are causing me unhappiness in my waking life, I see these dreams as opportunities to resolve or provide solutions to the issues in hand.

You may already have more detail from your dreams, but if not try and recall how you felt when you were stealing the money, were you guilty or excited? Were you afraid of the consequences or what the authorities might do to you if you were caught? What was the atmosphere and setting like, was it gloomy or pleasant?

Good luck with your investigation, I'm sure all of the answers are there, it just takes time to unravel and piece together all of the clues.

Cheers

S

Hi,
About 6 or 7 months ago I kept a log of when I experienced projection phenomena against the lunar cycle for the given time, just to see if there was any correlation.

Looking back I can see that in the beginning most phenomena, such as projections, vibrations and astral vision occured when the Moon was 'Waxing' or becoming fuller.

Things seemed to have now levelled off and I find that I now have experiences when the Moon is Waxing and Waning.

I can imagine using the Moon as a trigger object for incubating an experience, the only problem I foresee is that by planting a subconscious seed in ones mind that one can only have these experiences when the Moon is in such and such a state could result in one depriving oneself of experiences for the remainder of the month.

Cheers

S

Hi Sarah,
Many thanks for taking the time to read my dream experience, I read your 'Serious Astral projection' post in the Astral Experience's forum a little earlier and found it fascinating, I don't think I'll ever grow tired of listening to other peoples adventures in the Astral or of their dreams experiences!

Your description is very rich and full of emotion and detail, I often find the feeling upon waking from such experiences just exhilarating, I imagine that's how it felt for you when you woke from your experience?

I often feel as if I've returned from living a life in a totally different world separate from this one, the people are very real and have emotions and identities all of their own, occasionally the euphoria can be tainted with a little melancholy during the day or days following for having left them and their lives behind.

I have found projecting into the RTZ an incredible life changing experience, but like you I think that if I can become competent with Phasing then I will be able to really start some positive spiritual progress working with my guides.

I have always felt in my dreams and lucid dreams that there is a presence watching over me and observing my progress and actions, perhaps these are my guides? It definitely feels like a guiding presence, perhaps an aspect of my higher self?

Just recently this guiding voice has started to make itself more known in my dream and lucid dream states by offering advice, explaining things to me verbally and showing me explanatory images, my next goal is to become competent with Phasing and hopefully have more conscious and visual contact with my guide/s.

Thanks again for your reply!

S

Hi Stephen,
Thanks for the kind advice, I like what you said about 'Spirit or divine providence (whatever label) tends to provide when one opens their heart to the call', sometimes things can just fall in your lap or you get a gentle nudge in the right direction from the most unexpected places, I've had it happen before!

By the way, I have ordered some of Doris Stokes's books from Amazon: Voices A Doris Stokes Collection: "Voices in My Ear" & "More Voices in My Ear".
I never considered or thought about reading any of her books in the past, but chanced across an interesting review, apparently her first book is very good reading.

Thanks again

S

Thanks for the reply, I didn't realise they stopped due to unseen negative influences, I'd like to find out more about that, perhaps it's mentioned in the book?

I had picked up the book not so long ago in Waterstones and had a quick browse but never got around to buying it, I'll have to put it on order at Amazon.

I had heard, not sure if it's true though that Professor Archie Roy was either heading the team or had some involvement in the investigation. He often made an appearance in a short television series aired on sky called 'The Ghosthunters'.

The series was very watchable and had some very interesting accounts of spirit phenomena, Hauntings and poltergeist activity. I recommend anybody to watch them if they get the chance, the account given at the 'Old Bell Inn' was particularly convincing, thanks again!

S

Hi Cube,
Many thanks for the guidance, now my flu has gone and I'm feeling back on form I hope to put your advice into practice very soon.

By the way I really like your Website, you have some very interesting and helpful articles there, thanks again.

S

Many thanks for the link to the thread, there is plenty there to keep me happy for quite a while, especially with all of the links as well!

I have out of curiosity had a look around Luxembourg for Spiritualist churches or development groups but it's quite a small country and there doesn't appear to be any groups established yet, not that I know of anyway.

I have heard of some groups in Belgium and France but it wouldn't be too practical for me to go to these, and even if there was one in Luxembourg this would prove to be quite awkward anyway.

Thanks again for all of your information[]