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well the ball isnt exactly the ball everyone else talks about here in the forum.
but what i ment with the ball here in this  topic is that the ball is the  thing that grabs the object you wanna move. the  stream is a help tool so you are connected to the object.
here an example.
you got a peace of paper.
you take little  cable (this is now your streaming energy) or what ever and  some clue (should then be the "ball" you created) to  hold the paper and cable together. now when you pull the cable.. the paper will move...
get my point ?

quote:Originally posted by FreeFaller

 anyway should i open my 3rd eye first?

you dont have to... but i makes things much easier

nono you got that wrong...
you have to do the first awakening for 3 days. i mean the THOH one.. for 3 days...
then the fourts day (when your  3 eye should be open) you go over to the 2'nd awakening to the  MAY part.
i think the MAY part is to keep your 3 eye open.
efter i  did the 1'st awakening i didnt know about the second one.. so when i got my 3 eye open few weeks later i saw results.. but just for few days [] and i belive its closed now.
so i belive MAY is keeping your 3 eye open

Thanx  for sharing your info.
nw i can understand  more clearly than ever what is my problems and why i keep failing.

Big thanks!!!

ohh now i see why i didnt know what  you were talking about.. [^]
ive never been into anime so.. that was the reason
but thanx []

now ive tried  this one
uhm..   got a question.. when i seperated my hands... i felt  very wierd.. im my head and body...

anyone else with this feeling ?

sounds good... have to try this one.
ive always been unsure if it is the energy i feel in my hands/body/legs.

few days ago i meditated.. and i felt like  my legs  were filled with cola.. then i quit (no idea why) and i felt that  my legs were  warm and sweaty... guess that was energy i felt ?

whats DBZ ? []
yeah ki is more kung fu stuff...
ive heard alot the word "KI"  in kung fu

i said thooo all the time
never spoke last letter.. H
thin manual i read wast translated to swedish and  the girl who did that..  said that  i should  say it like THOO (without last letter)

this witho your tounge  you only do that when you say TH and the rest you say O
so more clearly (i  hope  this one  i clear for everyone )
THOOOO
(red one you say  with your toung) lol

kenshinhan604:

sorry.. didnt mean to harm anyone

what i belive is that  aura is energyfield around your body/astral body/ energy body.
im not sure actually..

ki... ive no idea what that is.. ive been reading a little about ki and stuff.. but never understood what it  actually is.

but yeah aura.. i think it just somekind of  energyfield  surrounding you.. but for what reason.. ? hehe no idea []

no i dont think so... at least ive never thought about it ..

haha []

do as i do... dont expect anything.. just do  it
it dosent matter if youre sitting  in front of  your  computer or meditating.. the time  goes anyway.

so do something that will work..like meditate
dont expect anything.. just do it
i gues.. the less you expect the more it works

im also out  after  my first OBE ...  i tried very hard at the beginning..  didnt get any result at all.
the i decided.. ahh what the h*ll i just do it it dosent matter if i get eny results or not..  i still do that. i dont loose anything the only thing i maybe do is that i win.

now few weeks  later  after i decided that... i  got my first vibrations (it yesterday).
so i will keep doing it.. but still without expecting anything as a result.

hope it help  

no music  but just sounds... very good
working on me perfectly
(very relaxing)
check it out
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7718&whichpage=1

btw  the lower tone of  those sounds...   imagine or think.. that they  give you vibrations..  i discovered this yesterday.. and i kinda got my first vibrations

damn this was cool. wonder  what hes learned... and  how long it took... but this was amazing.

if i remember right then your vision on the astral will become more clear or something..
but one thing i do remember is that you will see auras and you are much closer to telepatsy and telekinesis and even clarivoyance (CV i  experienced myself once.. and  only thing i did was open 3 eye)

hey... i found a way how to get  vibrations..  but ive no idea if this will work at all...

anyways.. bass!!! its kinda low
there is many sounds for meditating and  stuff that will calm you down or  help you to enter a specific state.. and most of then  have  frequency lower than 60 Hz well that frequency is no problem for a good bass-speaker  most of them play  even 20Hz maybe some better speaker  can even play lower than 20. anyways just put some  sound on that vibrates  or something and just  sit on  the hum whats that called  ... the thing that  holds your speaker.. you know.. hehe not so good at english []
anyway... would this work ? []

here is a way how to open your 3 eye if you're interested
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AwakeningOne.html
after you've done this one..  look Awakening II its important.

this tech.  works. i used this one myself and saw results after 2-3 weeks which was quite scary hehe well i wasnt prepared for the results but after that i think my  3 eye closed again.
in the awakening II says that you have to keep  doing some stuff  afterwards too  to keep 3 eye opened.
anyways.. hope i helps []

no idea how your way works.. but this with the ball..
you suppesed to create it.. (ive read it dosent matter how big)  and you create it where ever you want.. in the object.. and then you  try to move it.
ive tried that  but never worked.. but it would be a way to  do tk without loosing a lots of energy  any idea if that could be true ?
how big do you create ?? as big as the object is or just in the corners ?

i read  it  in the astral dynamics.
try http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm
if you dont  find any try searching  somewhere else (dont know if there  is any info on the net.
but as much ive been reading and as much as i remember.. its too much to write here (have no time.. sorry)
hope  it helps.

yeah  visualize and  telling in your mind seems to be working  best.
but ive even read (and ive tried that one) that  you visualize your  own enery   streaming to the object... like  kinda rope or something..  you create a ball  around the object and  the stream would be  like a rope then..
thats how you should be able to move it in any directions you want...

as i sayd... i tried this one... and it actually worked.  i move the   object few millimeters. but now few days  ive had problems... can feel energy in my arms or anywhere... its like  im out of it :/

so basically you visualize  your energy (as a real thing)  touching it.

hope it helps  you

yea i think so...
but try NEW ... maybe  it wont then

lol cool
have to try this one...
my first prob is.. where can i get a vibrating chair... * going to look for one*
thanx for the idea []

well you cant actually "see" when meditation starts...
its like breathing.. you just  do that.

just lay down and concentrate on your breathing and  dont let  your  thoughts to take over your  mind.
and while you meditate (concentrate on your breathing)  breath in and out deep breaths
ex. breathe in 2 seconds.. then hold it for 0.5-1 second and then breathe out 2 seconds. and all the time be aware  what you are doing..  dont think about anything else than your breathing. it should help you a little

i guess our goal is to make psiballs...
i belive that you have to control your own energy to do something like that.

anyways..  first start  with meditating. (cuz what ever you do  you always will need to meditate). when you can meditate for like an  hour or something (without any other thoughts coming into your mind) then youre done very well. (you should actually keep your mind clear as long as you want.. then you're doing more than good  with meditating) then next step.. look up N.E.W (New Energy Ways) for more info  how to raise and control your energy. when you've done that too... then just look up www.psipog.org under the   articles. you will find much about psiballs there

(No idea if im right with  those steps. ive never done that myself. but i hope im right and it  helps you)

take care []

you maybe mean when meditation starts or ends ??
how to see that ?