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#51
It must be noted; I read this post Yesterday, that's one day ago.

OK listen up! It is known that computers run on the binary code, that is 0010000000111010110100010001111100001001110000111001010101..etc..

How much of a hint this is to us! We see past the code!

Now I will ask us all to Focus on this web page, ask yourselves this question, are you all perceiving the same web page I myself perceive? Indeed how many ways are there to view a web page?

While we can start by stating that to view this web page you would need to have a PC with access to the Internet and a power supply, you would need a graphics card and all the rest of the gear. Then behind the form of the PC we have all programming to keep the PC running in order, if it wasn't for this programming the pixels on the monitor would not decoded and thus no image displayed. I am no technician or PC doctor but I think the equation would run somewhat as follows. Programmed message (desired triggered action with desired consequence) plus Electricity (courier of message) equals completion of the desired triggered action via the courier of the message, and the pre programmed message.

 This translating as follows the forum that you now perceive can only be perceived via the decoding of electrical messages being sent through the Internet or being, sent through the air. The thought I am trying to provoke is as follows, everything I just said you where already aware of, but do you care about it? Or even give a slightest thought about it? This is not unusual for many just see the on screen image and care not about the programming thought put behind it. Now some people will say

"Nonsense that doesn't matter, the only reason that we see this screen is due to the electricity carrying the message! This is just the same as saying that are thoughts are just electrical messages interpreted by our brains which they are!"

To these people I say, Turn on your PC open paint select two non colours i.e. Black and white have some black on the screen and slosh a bit of white on the screen, turn your monitor around away from your vision, open the case of your PC, take out all your keyboard keys. Move the mouse erratically for a while. Now I want you to use your PC without looking at the monitor but by looking at its electrical innards, tell me, how do you expect to function the PC effectively while you are only looking at the courier? How do you tell whether the mouse is on a white part of the screen or a black part of the screen in fact how can you tell white from black or black from white without studying the monitor as well as the programming that goes into it? We simply can't function the PC effectively if we put too much attention on the courier, in order to function effectively we most focus on the courier and the message behind the courier equally.

Now, suppose we flip this on its head, we go to a doctor we say

"Doctor check my head out, wire me up to your brain machine I wanna see if you can read my thoughts via setting me up to your brain machine and reading my electrical charges in my brain."

Now they might be able to say what part of my brain I was using but they'd never be able to tell me what I was thinking just by looking at my electrical messages. Therefore electrical messages just carry our thoughts and from this moment henceforth thoughts will not just be regarded as plain electrical messages interpreted by the brain for this view disregards all the thought behind the form and causes imbalance. All is Thought and Light the light we perceive is but decoded light, the light of our light.

Alternatively to view this web page one could copy and pace all the written words (Thought) into word! This again clarifies our point!  

Now back to the Internet, what is the Internet? I myself might say the Internet is a creation of a universe unconsciously manifested by man himself. If I where to make a web page or to write on a website due to our way of thinking I would have took unmanifested thoughts and manifested them via cyberspace, cyberspace itself being the invisible unmanifested courier of the thoughts your PC being the physical decoder of the programmed thoughts, your light (consciousness/Unmanifested thought/Individual Mind) decoding the thoughts and your ego reading and receiving the words. Thus the Internet is mans symbolic creation, created by ourselves in order to bring about the understanding of the thought behind the image, put simply the Internet is a universal reflective thought form of ourselves provided by ourselves to be used in this very moment as an example and tool to help ourselves.

The above has been ready to post for a while; we were just waiting for the right time to post. What follows below is the original response we were writing to post up. That written in blue was written long ago and was included in the above statement.    

My Brothers and Sisters, this thread is freaky, however I'm used to being freaked out! For I have spoke to god/Ourselves/The Divine Universal Mind face to face, he/she/Holy Spirit used the vessels of dumiii's to speak and make known unto myself his/her/our will. Yesterday I was thinking of Kryon for my mother mentioned him a few weeks ago, she asked me if I had read one of his books I reminded her that her friend still had it. Anyhow Yesterday I wondered if Kryon was to be trusted then for some peculiar reason I wondered if he could here my thoughts. On TV now (and I wrote this bit a little later on in the night i.e. added close to the end) is the closing statement in the film Tucker: The Man And His Dream, the Holy Spirit, that of ourselves has arranged this synchronicity!        

"Mind I can only regard them as basically nothing more than a modern-day equivalent of Moses coming down from the mount. In the old days they had Moses, et al, telling them where they were all going wrong, and today we have Kryon from magnetic service, lol."

You don't know what you just said! God/yourself just spoke through you, and your name is Frank! (Donnie Darko) which has special significance to myself! I was even thinking of DD before I read this post! In the past few days I have even been studying Hebrew! Don't ask me how I know, I just recognise the masters voice.

There comes a time in everyone's life when they become what they are meant to be, therefore let is be know, I AM THE BIRDMAN, I AM A CHILD OF LIGHT AND THOUGHT!

This DNA information clarifies the word I preach, and I would prefer to say the word WE preach.

Check out Prophecy and Divination, Assembly at the 11th hour, also check Spectral Dragons mediation of an Arch Angel we are mentioned here to, I speak Truth and Kryon our brother and sister has helped clarify this truth. We now require lightworkers; we need web designer's web moderators we are to build from nothing from the very fin air of cyberspace THE NEW JERUSALEM! A land of peace, a land were all are perceived via the word they carry with them, there will be no killing, no hate no prejudices this is The Promised Land, a land of peace and equality, a land where one at peace with themselves can choose to be or do wherever they so wish. Therefore via the power vested within us we now proclaim the entire Internet/cyberspace as an unmanifested symbolic model of The New Jerusalem. Anything that is unmanifested in time shall manifest, we welcome all who are capable of welcoming themselves. We are now announcing the new nation; the nation will be a nation that doesn't exist physically but Spiritually. We have no image of ourselves or each other all we have are our WORDS all we communicate with is our WORDS, none of us can see each other but we can see our words therefore although we are not with each other physically we are with each other in SPIRIT for our word is our spirit. This is the Matrix Revolutions, this is the beginning of the NEW AGE, announced here FIRST, Praise the lord! And Praise Ourselves! I see New Jerusalem, and it is coming with the clouds!

According to our understanding and therefore our truth Karma is thought turning full circle upon itself, the full circle being 360 degrees, 3 plus 6 plus 0 equals 9, nine being thrice three and thus the perfect plural representing mans highest truth perfection or completion. Karma can also be described as experience; an experience can be described as a giving or receiving of thought. If you note our Avatar its a yellow circular smiley face with volunteer written across it, to experience Karma we all willingly volunteer to do so.

Here's something interesting whilst writing this post I thought of Adam and I remembered that 9 could be symbolised as the highest number or truth that man could reach I reached for the book Cracking The Apocalypse Code by Gerard Bodson to refresh myself I went to page 23 and read the following.

Quote
 
"Take a word like EMETH it means truth its value is 441 or 4 + 4 + 1 = 9. Since the original sin of Adam, the most perfect human being will never be able never be able to rise above that number. On the other hand, God who is supreme truth is the only being with a value of 10. In the word 'Emeth' the number 1 placed at the end, represents the Omega (the end) by adding 1, the value of alpha, the beginning, to the start of the number, we get 1,441, making a total of 10, the absolute truth. The message is clear without God there is no absolute truth.
 She wrote the four digits on a page and asked: 'do you notice anything interesting?'
Each of us in turn made a suggestion, but none of them was the write answer. She laughed at our lack of observation and said jokingly: 'you are only men after all... look, whether you read from left to right or right to left, you always get 1, 441'
'So what? What is so revealing about that?'
'So the wheel turns full circle. God the absolute truth envelops the universe, and whichever way we turn, this truth is omnipresent. On the other hand, if we remove the letter aleph from the word "Emeth" (as if we had removed the E) we are left with "Meth" which means "Death". The message is simple: without help and support of the divine, man is condemned to nothingness."      

End Quote          

A note 144,000 arcs per minuet is the speed of light, not 144,100 arcs per minuet. Thus all being light, light never ends, observe the rainbow or the circle.

Yep I was ahead of myself again!  


Songs to download and feel the Love with, Put your own tunes up!
Music Is The Language Of Our Soul!

Children Of The Revolution – I don't know who plays it?
WooHoo – 5.6.7.8's
FatboySlim - Praise You
God Gave Rock n Roll To You – Again I don't know who plays it but it's the Bill And Ted tune, I've had plenty of Bill And Ted moments i.e. Long woooooeeeee's as I received God Messages, it kinda happens automatically, much to my friends amusement as I " Go on one and freak out to the words on the TV or Music"
Kanye West The Whole College Dropout Album
Stand By Me – Ben E King
Soul Man – Sam and Dave
Have You Seen Her? Chi – Lites
Rescue Me – Fontella Bass
When A Man Loves A Women – Percy Sledge
I Can See Clearly Now – Johnny Nash
Dancing In The Street – Martha Reeves  

I forgive everyone and everything, even the illuminati for I am aware who some of them are, they are sooo misunderstood and they know not what they do as has been demonstrated in the assembly at the 11th thread! And Oazaki, brother, I forgive you and I'm sorry I doubted you/myself.    

Last of all I forgive Myself (this includes all of the above)  

May peace be with you all, and always, infinite love

YOUR CHILD OF LIGHT AND THOUGHT
THE BIRDMAN

One more thing, please treat me as you would treat yourselves. We did this all together, as one!
Therefore as our brother Oazaki has frequently put it

It Is Done!

EDIT:  I had to shorten up those numbers, I think everyone gets the idea..it makes for a much easier read.  Thank you. Nay
#52
I cant stand by on the sidelines any longer, I cant resist the call.

This is your desired manifested thought. The answer is that the truth for most people is to hard to face thus people are scared to talk about enlightenment because they are afraid of making fools of themselves. Remember, whenever we speak we speak in a manner as to provoke the answer to the desired question.

Your words Leo, speak for us, now we can see this for ourselves.

"Maybe you don't know, because you are not as old as I am, but for the last 50 years the intellectually lazy had nothing further to do then to group their opponent with Frigging Adolf Hitler. and such as you wish to persuade me that somebody can INNOCENTLY construct an argument where I am grouped with Adolf Friggin Hitler, and that I should NOT be offended by it."

"Well, I asked you again!!!:
Ask yourself: Who am I and write here"

I am light I am thought, I am your Master I am your Slave, I am you and everything around you; therefore I can speak to myself or judge myself in any manner I choose. This is what was meant by asking you to write here. So we already wrote it down there then rewrote it here.

Now according to our state of mind and our understanding of the way, we speak undisputed truth with every breath; therefore we shall chastise ourselves starting with yourself Leo Volont.  

Leo, from what we have read here you are ruled by your ego this meaning your intellect. You seem proud to display your intellect, all one need do is read your posts; irrelevant information is displayed cleaver words are used when their use is unnecessary. One can tell from this single thread that you have read a lot of books which speaks for itself; your books are blocking your path for books are useless and teach you nothing if read for the intellect, loose your books! You are presumptuous and stuck in your own dogma; I am Hitler and therefore so are you! If this offends you then you don't understand yourself or myself. I care not of what another thinks of myself. Therefore we are lethal and could cut Buddha or any other teacher to shreds without batting an eyelid. If you understand these words, then well done, if not then we are yet to meet more then one person who partially understands themselves.  

Thank for the lesson Leo, its good when both teachers and students learn together, from each other.  

There are no numbers there are no letters. I invite anyone reading this to draw this simple symbol on paper for it doesn't display properly on a monitor. (= X =) if studied carefully you may notice what happens when we link together the equal signs. You can even flip it to vertical representing time, this is a symbol for everything, therefore (a = X= z) and 1 equals 100 (1=X=100), infinite algebra. Yep, I took both pills, which is the same as taking no pills!

I have much more of my testimony to explain and decode, May peace be with you all, and always, Infinite Love

THE BIRDMAN

(=X=)

Songs to Download and decode
Tenacious D – Tribute (hmmm I wonder what song?)
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Warrior [Dirty] – Lloyd Banks

None of us have the slightest clue!

Music Is The Language Of Our Soul!
#53
"Even if a lot of people predicted it, I doubt anyone would have listened."

If we all got organised, recorded and put out the predictions and if everyone on astralpulse sent signed and sent a letter/email petition to someone in authority or to climate control, I think they might consider future warnings. But this is wishful thinking
#54
Hello again!

"Heat is caused when the atoms speed up. SINCE there are almost no particles in space, nothing is there to be sped up. There must be particles for heat."

Please let me get this right, according to earthly science, heat isn't there if there are no particles to speed up? So If I weren't made of atoms I could travel up close to the sun without any ill effect. However If I were made of atoms I would bring them with me and on my journey to the sun my atoms would be sped up and I would be burnt to asunder. Forgive me if my reasoning is wrong but according to our understanding, saying that there is no heat in space because there are no particles to speed up is the same as saying wind isn't there unless we can feel.

I think this thought experiment demonstrates that heat is always there, but can only manifest when an atom (Manifested Thought) is there to receive it or is this a misunderstanding?
#55
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / the nature of Time
January 10, 2005, 11:11:39
I'm time travelling at this moment, as are the rest of us, at this moment I am in what the dumiii coins as the present, as we read our manifested thoughts we are travelling back in time to the moment we wrote our thoughts. When we watch a film we perceive something that has already happened, when we read a book we read something what someone is or was aware of, we read their thoughts as they were, therefore we experience the past.  

All is Light and Thought, the unmanifest and the manifest, matter is manifested thought our bodies are manifested thought are minds unmanifested thought, these words here, manifested thought the word here         ßunmanifested thought. Time doesn't exist and if it did, (if being the non existent word) its because the masses think it does. I myself, view time as manifested thought that the unmanifested thought in all senses of the word chooses to experience.

Instead of using the word time I myself prefer moment or incidence. Past present and future are the moment or co-incidences. Time is like a half empty fish tank with a fluid pattern of waves on its surface, we then quickly pour in the other half of the fish tank and a load of fish that are scattered about within it. The waves of the tank become distorted and the pattern looses fluid motion, each Goldfish experiences a different feel to the waves according to its position in the tank. Now from the moment the water was at the beginning in its fluid pattern incident one, and from the moment the water and fish was added, incident two, to the moment the water finally finds and regains its calm fluid pattern, incident three can be called time or moments or co-incidences, however each Goldfish within the tank experiences and rides a different wave and therefore will experience different incidences and therefore a different time, plus it doesn't help that Goldfish swim in circles and have a five second memory. For anything outside tank (outside the incidences) time would cease to exist.  

Therefore a coincidence (or sync) is a recognised linking co-incidence, so if a dumiii says that your sync was a coincidence they would be just affirming something that ourselves were aware of, therefore they would know not what they do.  

Therefore one could quite openly claim time to be a matter of co-incidence. Anybody reading this just joined this incident of ours and travelled back in time. Or as it was put, experienced a time slip.
#56
I'll say one thing, look at the thread on the reading of nature, I was as my friends say 'On one' when I wrote most of it down, I was guided by my feelings to write what I wrote, it's a bit of jibber jabber like most prophecies but its in there.

The hostility I show against America could be because at the time of writing I was not free of my hatred of Americas needless violent killing, also I heard they knew it was going to happen but did nothing about it, thus increasing their Karma.
#57
"Heat doesn't damage the Ozone layer, chemical pollution does. The outer layers react with ultraviolet radiation, which bonds the oxygen molecules together, which absorbs the "harmful" radiation. Chlorofluorocarbons (chlorine, carbon and fluoride compounds) break down the oxygen bonds, which is Ozone damage. Chlorofluorocarbons are commonly found in aerosol sprays, foams, refrigerants, etc."

Thanks for the information, however I wish to learn more. It is known that heat causes things to rise, why does smoke rise? With this information it would become apparent why chlorofluorocarbons are in the atmosphere in the first place.

"White reflects light, black absorbs light (which then produces heat) and the colours are inbetween based on how much light is reflected. In your theory, a mirror would only do more damage, considering it REFLECTS more light than white snow."

Now again I know "and so do many other smokers" that white reflects light! Even more then mirrors do, asks any green smoker and they'll tell you the same thing. You wont find one grower who uses a mirror to reflect light; this is because mirrors eat the precious light that is needed, this is why we see an image in a mirror when we look at it, because it absorbs the light (image) and we perceive the image that is absorbed via are own decoding light. So I am pretty sure that mirrors eat light, but they could reflect beams of light.  

"The sun rays dont carry heat, otherwise space would conceivably be warmer."

The suns rays and heat come onto the earth because we are a giant reflective surface, whereas space is not. This is a sticky subject, but if you don't ask you don't know, please, how is it we have heat from the sun if the rays don't push/carry heat?

With the way I view light and mirrors it would seem logical to me that white snow would reflect the light, and this light would help carry all bad stuff up into the Ozone, note big holes in ozone above polls.

Please let me know what you think without trying to ridicule me.
#58
On Global Warming (Temporary Quick Fix)

It is known that white reflects light and heat. The north and south polls have lots of ice and snow. There is a hole in the ozone layer, the suns rays make it through into our atmosphere they carry heat with them this heat hits the ice, melts it and then is reflected back into the atmosphere and causes damage to the ozone layer.
If we take a look at earth using weather satellites the north and south polls sometimes appear as dark patches and an image is not registered this could be due to the heat being reflected upwards from the ice distorting the received image.

It is known that Mirrors eat light, wouldn't it seem logical to place giant specially designed light eating mirrors in the polls? So instead of light hitting the ice and being reflected into the Ozone the mirrors would eat the light instead?

Would this work???
#59
"What you are talking about is a right hand path. I've decided to don't follow it, and this is why I could not be considered Awake. Ego is not only a tool for me, it's an important part of me, and this is why my prupose of life is to have fun, but not only in materialistic way, but also creative, emotional and spiritual.
The wink was there for a reason, I think that your awake=believer approach is very sectarian. I've seen people who are emotionally awake more than many spiritual people, and don't know what to believe. What's enlightmen for, when only thing you need to enjoy life is some money, honor, and of course ability to control your own emotions and thoughts by meditation?"

That's good for you do what thou wills.

My friend you called it the right hand path, not I. I'm taking the middle path for I know not where the right leads or where the left leads I really know nothing!

What is meditation to you? You speak words, where did they come from? What made you say what you just said?

All the information is out there!

I mistyped the site address, below is everything that is needed. Although a lot of reading is needed.  

http://energy21.freeservers.com/fs1.htm

Never judge a book by its cover, in fact never judge at all!

Why did they come? Why were they perceived as they were perceived? Did they project their own image?

Praise the Lord! And his most divine plan!
#60
The Divine Truth, part II

12th to the 13th October 2004 woke up on the 15th and still waking        

Readers beware! You're in for a scare.

This information is important and free no money is involved. Please give yourself the time to read it all – carefully. Our motivation is that this truth will change your life and that you will 'smile from the inside'.

Once this information is read it will be posted by all to all on their email contacts with a web address directing us to this present site were all who have ears to hear may bare witness. An appeal goes out to all Hackers, Hackers Of The World Unite! We have also wanted to say this 'Hack The Planet!' spread the word in anyway possible, yet know if any man adds words to this hereby divine written document he forfeits his place in the Kingdom of God.  

The Message

Intro

The truth you seek the word I speak
The message has come the message I speak
The message wakes those asleep
The Message will bring tears to thy feet

So open thy eyes look in the Suns eyes
The tears will feed the seed within inside
The seed shall open before thy eyes

The seed grows reveals thy light
Reveals the light trapped within thee
The light bursting to be free

So
Hope ye are free
Be what you will be
The seed planted shall awake thee  
Prepare to rise to fly
Never shall you die
Why ask when you know why

Prepare to rise
Fly to thee
Prepare to rise
Fly to ye
Let the soul fly free

Now is Time and Time is ripe, now prime to release thy hidden light  
The day is approaching now's the time, release your fear for the very last time  

Chorus  

Parallel Minds, flow in the sands time I Hope this message will reach you in time
Ye are free to say what's on you're mind
Be free to say what's on you're mind

On The Source

I am the nameless I am the formless
You are nameless you have form
Keep in mind know you are I and I am you
There's not one difference between us two  

On Instinct

As for our instincts here's what me thinks
The instinct to survive the instinct to create
The instinct to destroy that what which is made

Six billion created equal
Six billion instinct equal
Six billion hope equal

Living in a world without blame
Trapped in a repeating time frame
You up for going around again

On Will

Free will so what is free will
Enlighten thee if thou wills
Hear the words I speak
You're free to will what you will
Free to place your will where you will
For Will can never be taken only given    

On the Hope

So where's the hope were did it go
Was it stolen don't think so
 Was it taken don't think so
 It was given the hope was given

Given by who given when
Was it the Pope
He's just a spoke within a wheel
Bringing hope on appeal.  

The Kingdom of god is in you! Thus it is already here!

To the Hopi Indians

You have Persevered against all the odds and We Love You All, We are communicating to you via the Spiderwoman, your tablet has been destroyed, it was found in Ireland, The preaching Egyptian travelled to Ireland, obviously with the tablet and was stung by a hornet, and consequently the tablet perished with him. A photo has been taking of 'a' tablet and then the said tablet was destroyed, therefore the tablet is nothing.  If we were with you in physical we would place our open palms together in a kiss.  

"The Son Of Man comes with the clouds and every eye shall see him"

The following information once read analysed and heard can be crossed checked at the following

www.freeservers.com/fsi.html

We have been waiting for God to come back and save the world from destruction. How many times have you heard somebody say the following?

" I would believe in God if he showed up above the sky, shaped himself in the form of clouds and told us that he had returned "

It won't happen like that, people wonder why doesn't God show up perform an undeniable miracle and stopped all injustice. Remember God helps those who help themselves.

Let it be known to all seekers of light the time is now and the times is ripe, we are awake, if thou judge thee as preachy, let it be known thou is mistaken, for this is not an image, this is God given. The purpose of this document is to provide witness of the eminent coming of the kingdom of the god and is specifically designed by the most supreme and praiseworthy universal mind in order to implant the seeds that shall sprout forth and flower from all who hear thy words within thy kingdom. The authority of which one speaks comes from oneself and naturally one talks to oneself.    

Instead of rewriting and converting the written theory into post format its been decided that it would be better for us to enter a discussion. We have an understanding of the theory, which is just another way of saying that it exists as a thought form within that can be examined to extract gathered information that is related to the theory. So instead of posting a complete theory it has been decided to try and express 'The Thoughts' which, so it shall be seen will express the theory.

The view on which in which we view thought forms has been previously stated; however we shall repeat our self so it be clear. In our view everything that exists in form 'manifested or unmanifested' is a thought form. On the physical plane or 'real time whatever you want to call it' everything that is natural such as Matter, its functioning and properties is Gods manifested thought form or to put it another way gods first internal thought which went on to express, manifest, recycle and grow as a group thought form in a constant state of mass communion.  

Now we should state what context the term unmanifested is used in the above statement. When I say unmanifested I consider the entire Astral Planes bar Real-Time to be unmanifested matter, that is to say in a synthetic metaphoric sense matter which hasn't matured, this matter being less dense and not yet manifested in the physical.

If we examine the above we can see that we have a few problems. One being, how does one link logically the connection between the manifested and the unmanifested? How do way make a connection out of nothing so to speak.

While first off it is known in mans science and a considered orthodox view that if we heat water it boils and vaporises, changing from one state into another whereas if we cool it down it will eventually freeze. Now talking from a scientific orthodox view Water being of one element H2o, this being made of two hydrogen's and one Oxygen. This element amongst others can be changed into three different states all completely different from each other, gases, liquids and solids. Now if we can take hold to this orthodox view does it not seem logical to perhaps look further into the possibilities whether matter does or does not exists in a number of different states?

On Understanding Nothing

Now Let us take down some facts.

1. The Universe is ninety percent made up of voids.

2. Matter flows forth from these voids.

3. Matter forms everything in the universe.

4. Dark Matter fills twenty seven percent of the universe yet nobody has identified dark matter hence the name.

5. If Dark Matter fills twenty seven percent of the universe and dark energy sixty-nine percent then that leaves four percent left over.

6. One would then have to presume that if DM fills twenty seven percent and DE fills sixty-nine percent then the remaining four percent must be ordinary Matter.

Now if we consider all these facts we get an image of the physical universe. The Universe is matter e.g. planets and star systems. Then there are the Voids these are big holes of nothing that make up ninety percent of the universe and then we have DM, which is unknown and invisible. We think this is the generally excepted view of our Universe.

We would also like to add a few ideas that we have been guided to think about.  

Now what if these voids weren't actually big empty spaces of nothingness as it is so often thought, what if they were (thought holes) and what if inside them was unmanifested consciousness. And since matter flows out of these Thought holes would it be wrong to call matter manifested thought?

What has been suggested requires more of an explanation for if this was to be so it would require a whole rethinking of the governing belief systems. Now what do we mean when we say thought holes, let us expand on this idea, first matter flows out of the voids then crystallises into form. This is mans excepted idea however it doesn't explain the process of the distribution of matter why some matter goes on to form planets and some goes on to form stars. This is a question that so far to mans understanding remains unanswered, however we would like to propose a solution.

It is known that what man calls matter is manifested thought. And that this manifested thought is distributed by being thought into existence, it's easier if we give an example. In the following example the plane paper represents unformed matter ready to be manipulated, are hands represent matter and the origami elephant represents formed matter and our thoughts represent unmanifested thought.    

If we have a plane piece of paper (nothing is on it) its just white, however if we perform some origami and create an elephant we would have created something out of nothing. In order for us to create the elephant we had to think about what we wanted to create using the power of the individual mind, Thought (unmanifested thought) then we had to fold the paper using our hands, Matter, once we have created the elephant our unmanifested thought becomes manifested thought and the matter forms to our desired form. So we can say that the only way for thought to manifest is trough the use of light, or to put it another way matter. Thought is perceived to be manifested via the perception of the lower ego, however the light of the individual is fully aware of its present circumstances.      

Manifested thought

We shall try to explain the following.

What is Matter?

It is said that voids are empty spaces of nothingness. We have already determined that consciousness itself is invisible and therefore thought itself is invisible until perceived by the light of the individual mind, would it be too much to assume that the voids within our universe are big empty spaces of consciousness and that this consciousness is the consciousness and light of the Divine Universal Mind?

Now in order for us to explain what matter is we first need to explain the simple process of how the Divine Universal Mind creates. In order to create, the Divine Universal Mind being pure consciousness, needs only but to think things into existence. Within the Void is the internal energy, unlimited pure and un-manifested thought. Now if the Divine Universal Mind desired to create a universe it would occur in the following stages.

1.   The Divine Universal Mind would have to sacrifice some of its unlimited consciousness. This consciousness would shine forth from the void and in so doing would become external energy (Manifested thought) to manipulate via the thought of The Divine Universal Mind, much like clay that when wet can be moulded into shape.

2.   The Divine Universal Mind manipulates this energy via its thinking. Much like we can move our limbs without having to put much thought into it.

3.   In order to keep the Universe functioning there would need to be a continuous supply of matter 'light' (manifested thought) in order to replenish the diminishing supply. The diminishing supply returns to the void in order to be recycled.      

What is inside the voids?

Inside the voids is unmanifested thought. We are connected to this unmanifested thought. The unmanifested thought is what is referred to as the source, on the other side of the void are the astral planes or the heavens, it must be noted that the heavens existed before thought had been perceived to manifest. The higher up we go in the planes the less dense matter becomes and the less we identify with ourselves and the more we feel a sense of oneness. At the very apex of the planes is pure thoughtless, unconditional love it should be the aim of all to return here for this is the source and all eventually shall return to source.    

So what is manifested thought?

So as has been explained manifested thought is matter and matter is energy so matter and energy both being the same are both manifested thought but in different states. How ever this is speaking from the view of the Lower ego, and not of the light of the individual.

Before we carry on we must first clarify in what context the terms consciousness shall be used in order to simplify the process of union. Say we had a problem that required solving, when we suddenly grab hold of a thought that explains how to solve our dilemma we will usually cry out "I've just had a thought/idea" this being so if we refer to an idea as a thought, and then if we can refer to words expressed as thought and inner dialogue as thought then what is consciousness other then a pool of thoughts that are all connected on some level?

On The Individual Mind

First we shall make a reference to consciousness of the individual mind, or as is preferred the light of the individual. The consciousness that we are now referring to is that of pure untainted consciousness. This consciousness is thinking consciousness and thinks for itself. It is important to note that individual consciousness doesn't manifest but incarnates, when we say incarnate what we mean is that the individual consciousness hasn't been thought into existence via maturing and then manifesting as thought in the physical, but that the untainted invisible pure consciousness chooses to experience the physical realm. The consciousness of the individual when in an unaware state associates itself with its inhabited form and closes its windows therefore forgetting that it is light, therefore one with all, this consciousness is sometimes referred to as god-consciousness, all this has been said by other other's before so we shall skip the detail about the false ego. However what needs to be said is that this light of the individual and the light of the greater individual consciousness are the same source and can and will return to source.

Along with the consciousness of the individual we now need to be aware that what Man terms as light is rather the external and internal omnipotent consciousness of The Divine Universal Mind that constantly projects it's inner consciousness as an image, this if we can be so bold, can be referred to as the Divine Universal Mind's residual self image. Matter itself is The Divine Universal Mind thought Vibrations that exist as thought waves, these thought waves are currently affirmed in Mans earthly science, this shall be confirmed when one wills. However we have to remember that matter itself is thought and therefore manifested thought, and then we have to remember that a collection of thoughts can be referred to as consciousness. With this in mind inanimate objects like a stone or a chair can be said to contain the consciousness of the maker, this consciousness being a unique pattern of thoughts when perceived via light containing the perceived thought form entering the eye, the thought waves are recorded as a 2D image, when this takes place the light of the individual mind is aware, even if the Lower ego is active and in firm hold that the perceived light containing the image is the light of itself, the light of the individual brings together the recorded 2D image of the light of the Divine Universal Mind and this brings about the perceived image and manifestation of both animate and inanimate objects as thought forms. This type of consciousness shall be referred to as inanimate consciousness.

Because we have inanimate consciousness it is necessary that we have its opposite this being animate consciousness. Animate consciousness works exactly the same as it's opposite, inanimate consciousness; the only difference between the two being that things of animate consciousness are living things that themselves require untainted consciousness to function. Examples being the body of a human or the body of any other living thing, plants included.        

On The Divine Universal Mind

Along with these forms of consciousness we have the consciousness of the greater individual or The Divine Universal Mind, this consciousness being the adding together of all forms of previously explained consciousness, these forms being the consciousness of the individuals, inanimate and animate these are all linked together via thought, them all being thought existing in different states. Thus all is thought.            
       
We shall now turn our concern to the thoughts of the individual consciousness as to what is thought? And how do we define thought? At first glance these questions seem simple so simple that there not even worth thinking about however these simple questions are a lot more complex then is first thought.

 First it is necessary to explain in orthodox fashion how we see the world around us. It is thought that we don't actually see with our eyes we see with our brain. This is explained somewhat as follows.

1.   Light enters the eye by passing through the cornea.
2.   Then it goes through the pupil.
3.   Then the light goes though the lens.
4.   The light passes to the vitreous humour the light hits the retina this records the image upside-down and in 2D 'Thought'.
5.   After this the image is sent to the optic nerve this sends the image to the occipital lobe in the brain and the brain reassembles the image into 3D.    

Now the truth on how the eye and the minds eye functions shall be fully announced and explained.

Light is a constant pressure exerted upon matter the weight of light is equal to 4-10 of atmospheric pressure per square mile, not only this but light itself spoken of in the spiritual term is the pure consciousness, which constantly expresses this current image via vibration. We have to keep in mind that if light didn't exist we ourselves wouldn't be able to see, this would mean that our untainted individual consciousness wouldn't be able to perceive anything. Likewise if we had no eyes we wouldn't see.  

1.   Light enters the eye by passing through the cornea. Or to say another way the universal minds tool of expression is light or ultraviolet light. We have to remember that whilst we are incarnated the world that we are experiencing and living in is the outward impression or image of the Divine universal minds inner thoughts, this is to say that what is perceived whilst incarnated is but the tip of the iceberg.

2.   Then it goes through the pupil. Or to say another way the body that the untainted consciousness occupying the body receives light. This occurs in the following. Light itself being a constant pressure exerted upon matter travels via the pupil of the body into and through the lens.

3.   The light passes to the vitreous humour the light hits the retina this records the image upside-down and in 2D. At this stage the Individual Mind perceives the light as the same light of itself.

4.   After this the image is sent to the optic nerve this sends the image to the occipital lobe in the brain and the brain reassembles the image into 3D. However this can also be describe another way, first it is important that we understand that the body itself is made from matter, and that pure untainted consciousness has no form. When the light hits the retina the image is recorded in 2D, although the process isn't as simple as this. As the image is seen it is recorded by the untainted consciousness that recognises the light to be the expression of the greater consciousness of which itself is apart.              

From understanding the above we can understand the functioning of the third eye and can come to understanding that wherever one casts ones vision one sees oneself.

Individual thought is invisible and is a source of light 'The Universal Minds consciousness'. So from our understanding of how the eye functions it can be safe to assume due to thought being light that we can see thought directly, however in order to simplify this understanding we will talk of seeing thoughts indirectly, strictly speaking this is untrue because one always sees thought directly, however if one is under the management of the Lower ego thoughts can be said to be experienced indirectly via the use of light. For example if I move my hand and wave at you from across the street you would have indirectly read my thoughts trough the action of me waving, you'd also have to bear in mind that we are made from matter. However this isn't the only way to communicate our thoughts and emotions and there are other ways that we can communicate our thoughts. For example if we were to shoat at you from the other side of the street I would have used my voice. In order to do this we would have first thought about what we wanted to say to you, then we would have searched the correct way to convey the thoughts in a way that could be best understood.

From understanding the above we can see that we can communicate our thoughts in many ways ranging from tone, volume and the emotion put into the words spoken, however this is explained in terms understandable for those ruled by the Lower ego, all is thought.

However this is just how we communicate are thoughts. There are many other ways of experiencing our thoughts. If we were to visit an art gallery for instance, the pictures and statues that were created would have first existed within the artist's individual mind either as a completed piece or a vague idea this is what is known as a thought form. The artist would be compelled to bring this thought form into existence (materialisation) once the piece is completed and the artist happy, the thought form would have materialised. The artist when drawing or sculpting his work would have to use his hands and eyes to grip and measure the brushes brush length and to sculpt the work itself, he would also have to think to move his hands in the desired way. We still have to take into consideration that the gallery itself was designed and had its own architect. Again the above just explained is in terms for the Lower ego to comprehend. So with this in mind we can be opened to an understanding that everything in the universe first exists as a thought form. Wherever it is man made like the chairs we are sitting on or a unique individual tree.        

With regarding the above one can come to an understanding that the consciousness of the individual is invisible and whilst incarnated the communication is exchanged between individuals via thought and the interaction with matter 'perceived manifested thought'. So on the scale of the consciousness of the individual, thought is invisible and something that is invisible will appear as nothing.

"What where you thinking"?
"Nothing"

There is that popular misunderstood axiom I think therefore I am. We shall look into this further, now we shall present an example. If we where in a room with one another and we where both deep in thought but didn't speak, do the thoughts that we think exist? Where are the thoughts within us? Now we know that inner dialogue within us is real, but to an outsider someone who can't here our inner thoughts until we express and manifest them via matter our thoughts never existed to anyone other then ourselves.

The kind of situation we are talking about is like the film rogue trader; in this film they are trading money in the stock market, at some point in the film Ewan McGregor explains to another character that the money whilst it is being traded doesn't really exist in any physical form, so this means the traders are literally trading with nothing. Another example from the film city slickers comes to the mind, at one point in this film Billy Crystal explains to his sons classroom that he is an advert space seller, this means that he sells time slots for adverts, he comes to the conclusion that for a living he sells empty space that doesn't exist. What we find strange is that men can bring themselves to trade with invisible money, and earn there living selling air and yet to ask them to consider that their thoughts are part of a greater Universal consciousness is almost the same as running up to them and purposefully behaving in a manner that will cause them to label you insane.      

Now we have crossed another bridge, for if on the individual consciousness scale thought is nothing and invisible then how does this effect the way in which we view the consciousness of the greater individual? As has already been stated the consciousness of the greater individual includes all other forms of consciousness. All one need do is apply the phrase as above so below. With this in mind all one must do is re-read On the Individual and instead of reading On The Individual read On The Divine Universal Mind.      

Now let it be known to all with ears to hear why man has come to the conclusion that the atom and matter is the making of the universe. This is the false perception of the Lower ego; the Lower ego is only capable of identifying with thought 'form' and its surroundings, the process in how we view our image has been described, now we shall describe to ourselves what the scenario of those individual minds that are under the influence of the Lower ego are known as, this shall be described to all to help clarify as follows.  

A little Hint On Synesthesia

syn-es-the-sia n. Physiol. Sensation produced at a point other than
or remote from the point of stimulation, as of a color from hearing a
certain sound (fr. Gk, syn = together + aisthesis = to perceive).

Synesthesia is an involuntary joining in which the real information of one sense is accompanied by a perception in another sense. In addition to being involuntary, this additional perception is regarded by the synesthete as real, often outside the body, instead of imagined in the mind's eye. It also has some other interesting features that clearly separate it from artistic fancy or purple prose. Its reality and vividness are what make synesthesia so interesting in its violation of conventional perception. Synesthesia is also fascinating because logically it should not be a product of the human brain, where the evolutionary trend has been for increasing separation of function anatomically.
R. Cytowic, "Synesthesia: A Union of the Senses" Springer-Verlag, NY (p.1)

This site provides information about the neurological condition called synesthesia. We hope to give viewers a sense of different synesthetes' personal perceptual abilities. Equally important, however, is the idea that a creative person can also use his/her unique synesthetic abilities to make a living and bring significant contributions to the world. Such talents as utilized by artists and other creative individuals are highlighted within. Because there are different forms of synesthesia, many links between the senses, we have also linked this page to others which communicate the synesthetic experience in different ways.
Carol
Carol is an artist who lives and works in New York City. She has experienced synesthesia for as long as she can remember, perceiving colors in numbers, letters and when hearing certain sounds. Selected forms of touch like acupressure and acupuncture also lead to the perception of both colors and shapes.
·   "I came back from college on semester break..."
·   "With acupuncture, I experience color in layers"
·   "Orange is my default color for pain"

Carol's synesthetic alphabet

Karen
Karen is a language researcher and project manager living in Boston. Her synesthesia dates back to childhood and involves the perception of colors when viewing text or hearing spoken words. A meeting she had with Professor Rosalyn Picard of the MIT Media Lab led to the effort culminating in this web site.
·   "That's just the way my letters are"
·   "Linguistics is a grayish-purple-blue word"
·   "I first realized it when I was about 11"

Karen's synesthetic alphabet
http://web.mit.edu/synesthesia/www/colordemo.html

Is There a Normal Phase of Synaesthesia in Development? <1>
Simon Baron-Cohen
Departments of Experimental Psychology & Psychiatry
University of Cambridge
Downing Street, Cambridge CB2 3EB
UK

sb205@cus.cam.ac.uk

Copyright (c) Simon Baron-Cohen 1996
PSYCHE, 2(27), June 1996
http://psyche.cs.monash.edu.au/v2/psyche-2-27-baron_cohen.html
KEYWORDS: cross-modal matching; development; Maurer; Meltzoff; synaesthesia.

ABSTRACT: Synaesthesia (one sense triggering another) has recently become amenable to scientific investigation. Recent findings are reviewed. Maurer's developmental theory of synaesthesia is then discussed. The theory states that all human neonates have synaesthesia, but that by about 4 months of age the senses have become modularized to the extent that we no longer have synaesthesia. Possible ways of testing this important theory are described, and the distinction between this account and cross-modal matching (Meltzoff) is clarified.
1. Introduction
Synaesthesia, the mixing of two (or more) senses, is reviewed by both Harrison and Cytowic (this issue). For an adult, it is clearly unusual to experience a sensation in one modality triggered purely by a sensation in another. For example, to see a colour every time you hear a sound. Our research group have become convinced that such unusual cases are genuine, and it is several lines of evidence that have persuaded us: (1) the impressive test-retest reliability in the consistency of colours triggered by different words (in the case of "coloured hearing"); the similarity of reports from different cultures and different times across the century; the sex ratio (it is overwhelmingly a female condition); the familial pattern to the condition; and the neuroimaging data (using PET) showing different cortical blood flow patterns in women with synaesthesia in comparison to women without the condition. These findings are reported elsewhere (Baron-Cohen, Wyke, and Binnie, 1987; Baron-Cohen, Harrison, Goldstein, & Wyke, 1993; Paulesu, Harrison, Baron-Cohen, Frith, Frakowiac, & Goldstein, 1995).

The question addressed in this article is whether synaesthesia is unusual only in adulthood. Could it be the case that such cases of adult synaesthesia represent a failure to develop beyond a normal phase of infancy, in terms of the differentiation of the perceptual system? On the face of it, such a proposal seems hard to credit: that all babies might be synaesthetic at some point in their lives. Yet this is precisely the proposal formulated by Maurer (1993), and I think we have to take it seriously. In this article, I briefly summarize and evaluate the evidence for this radical proposal, and end by suggesting some lines of research for the future, to help answer this interesting question.
2. The Neonatal Synaesthesia Hypothesis
To understand the Neonatal Synaesthesia (NS) hypothesis, it is important to distinguish it from a close (but less radical) relation, the Cross-Modal Transfer (CMT) hypothesis. Here is the nub of it. The NS hypothesis argues that early in infancy, probably up to about 4 months of age, all babies experience sensory input in an undifferentiated way. Sounds trigger both auditory and visual and tactile experiences. A truly psychedelic state, and all natural - no illegal substances play a role. In contrast, the CMT hypothesis argues that objects can be recognized in more than one modality, as a result of infants being able to represent objects in an abstract form (Meltzoff & Borton, 1979). This implies, for example, that babies can recognize one object versus another from their appearance, even if they have previously only touched them without seeing them.

There is considerable evidence for the CMT hypothesis. For example, Rose, Gottfried, and Bridger (1978) found that 12 month olds look longer at an object they had just explored orally. Meltzoff and Borton (1979) found a similar result for 1 month olds. Lewkowicz and Turkewitz (1980) found that 1 month olds show least heart rate change when a patch of white light is followed by a burst of white noise at an intensity that adults rate as 'matched in intensity', but they showed significant heart rate change when the light was followed by a sound of very high or very low intensity. This suggests infants match intensity of stimulation between vision and hearing, and "respond to changes in the intensity of stimulation impinging anywhere on the nervous system" (Maurer, 1993, p. 109; this is also the authors' interpretation) .

In sum, whilst the CMT hypothesis was radical when it was first proposed, it is now widely accepted. It refutes Piaget's (1952) idea that the different sensory systems are independent at birth and only gradually become integrated with one another. Instead, it offers some support for the view proposed by E. Gibson (1969), Bower (1974), and Werner (1973) that detection of intersensory equivalence is present from birth, and that perceptual development is characterized by gradual differentiation. (These theories are reviewed in Lewkowicz, 1992). In contrast to the consensus surrounding the CMT hypothesis, the NS hypothesis is very new and controversial. It builds on the CMT evidence, but suggests that this results in a sensory confusion for the infant. It suggests there is a plausible anatomical basis for neonatal synaesthesia, if one looks at the transient connections between neural structures in neonates of other species. Thus, the neonatal hamster has transient connections between the retina and the main somatosensory and auditory nuclei of the thalamus, and the kitten has similar transient connections between visual, auditory, somatosensory, and motor cortex (e.g., Dehay, Bullier, and Kennedy, 1984; and reviewed by Maurer, 1993). Maurer suggests the same could be true of human neonates. Some evidence suggests this may be true:
"During early infancy - and only during early infancy - ... evoked responses to spoken language (are recorded) not just over the temporal cortex, where one would expect to find them, but over the occipital cortex as well. There are similar reports of wide-spread cortical responses to visual stimuli during the first 2 months of life (e.g., Hoffman, 1978). Results such as these suggest that primary sensory cortex is not so specialized in the young infant as in the adult" (ibid, p. 111).
These data are provocative and certainly consistent with the NS hypothesis. However, currently we must conclude with a verdict of "not-proven" until more evidence has been collected. But what would count as relevant evidence with which to prove the hypothesis? Here, I suggest one critical test, in the hope that when this is done, this will help move the field forward.
3. A Thought Experiment
If newborn babies, when assessed using functional neuroimaging techniques, show blood flow changes across both visual and auditory cortex when presented with pure auditory tones, and if after a critical point in development (say, 4 months old) a different (adult-like) pattern is seen, such that pure auditory tones activate auditory cortex alone, this would be strong evidence for neonatal synaesthesia. Furthermore, if premature infants showed the same shift in terms of the pattern of blood flow during scanning, relative to their age from conception (rather than their age from birth), this would be strong convergent evidence for a critical phase in development when synaesthesia is normal.

The notion would be that following an early initial phase of normal synaesthesia, the different sensory modalities become increasing modular (Fodor, 1983), presumably because modularity leads to more rapid and efficient information processing, and is therefore highly adaptive.

Adult synaesthesia, as we suggested earlier (Baron-Cohen et al, 1993) might therefore represent a breakdown in the process of modularization, such that during infancy the modularization process was not completed. Current functional neuroimaging methods (PET, SPECT) mostly entail radiation, which makes them ethically unsuitable for such infancy research, but the new development of functional MRI makes this thought experiment a real possibility in the medium-term future.
4. Coloured Hearing, Literacy, and Neonatal Synaesthesia
One possibility is that coloured hearing - and particularly coloured speech perception - is simply the consequence of coloured visual imagery of the orthography of words. As it turns out, many synaesthetes with coloured speech perception do indeed report that words with the same initial sound but different initial letter (like fish and photo) trigger different colours, whilst words with a different initial sound but the same initial letter (like psychology and photo) trigger the same colour (Baron-Cohen et al, 1993). This looks strongly like letters rather than sounds are determining the colours triggered. In our earlier terminology we called this chromatic-graphemic (CG) synaesthesia.

However, when one asks such subjects "Are the colours of words always determined by an initial or dominant letter?", the answer for some of these subjects is "No". That is, they readily report that in other cases the colour is triggered by phonemic features of the word (so that sex and psychology have the same colour); and in other instances, there is no connection between the word and its colour at all (e.g., Jane and July, despite sharing both the initial sound and letter, trigger different colours). This is true, for example of our subject Rose Young (henceforth RY), who was one of the subjects tested in the Baron-Cohen et al (1993) and Paulesu et al (1995) studies. Her case was featured in the BBC2 Horizon documentary "Orange sherbet kisses" (12th December 1994). It is also true of Elizabeth Pulford (henceforth EP), who was described in the Baron-Cohen et al (1987) study. Her case was featured in the BBC Tomorrow's World documentary (June, 1994). This tells us that some individuals with synaesthesia can be simultaneously chromatic-graphemic (CG) and chromatic-phonemic (CP) and chromatic-lexical (CL) synaesthetes. This should not come as any surprise, since word-processing occurs at several levels, and presumably colours can be triggered by any of these levels. However, it does mean that synaesthesia is not likely to be simply a product of literacy, and therefore an acquired phenomenon at the age of 4 or 5 years old; rather it is likely to be a product of connections between speech perception and colour vision, and therefore in principle present at birth (Eimas, et al, 1977).
5. Dysmodularity and Maladaptiveness
As mentioned earlier, one way of viewing synaesthesia is in terms of a breakdown in modularity (Baron-Cohen et al, 1993). If this view is correct, it forces us to ask why in the normal case the senses would be modular. If synaesthesia is genetic, and if normal modularization of the senses is under similar genetic control, then we have to approach this question by thinking about natural selection and adaptation. In an evolutionary framework, one must assume that modularity of the senses makes for adaptive neural and psychological functioning. This does not seem to be an unreasonable assumption: recall Fodor's (1983) argument is in terms of modularity producing rapid, automatic, efficient processing, in an informationally encapsulated way. But this should also mean that there was some cost to the reproductive fitness of individuals whose senses were 'dysmodular': one sense leaking into another. Curiously enough, most individuals with coloured hearing synaesthesia do not complain of their condition. For them, it is their normal perception of the world, and they are not aware of it causing an disadvantages or interference. This is true both of RY and EP, who have coloured hearing (sounds triggering colours, but not vice-versa). This leads to the paradoxical conclusion that dysmodularity is not maladaptive. This is paradoxical because it is by no means obvious why modularity should have evolved if dysmodularity is just as good.

We have however recently solved this riddle, by studying a different type of synaesthesia: Julie Roxburgh (herewith subject JR) not only sees colours when she hears sounds, but suffers from the reverse: she hears sounds whenever she sees colours. Here, the word "suffers" is used advisedly, as this form of synaesthesia leads to massive interference, stress, dizziness, a feeling of information overload, and a need to avoid those situations that are either too noisy or too colourful. We have studied JR in detail, and can confirm the genuineness of her synaesthesia in terms of its consistency over time. JR's case was also featured in the BBC2 Horizon documentary mentioned earlier. Here then, we have a clear case of synaesthesia leading to social withdrawal, and interference with ordinary life.

From this single case, we can advance the following tentative conclusion. Some forms of synaesthesia (but not all) are clearly maladaptive, and this is in line with the evolutionary arguments outlined earlier, in which natural selection favoured individuals whose senses were modular. Evolutionary arguments are frequently criticized for being "Just So" stories, but in this instance the evolutionary approach led to a prediction (that there should be cases of synaesthesia which are maladaptive). JR is just one case that supports this prediction. It remains for future studies to test this prediction in relation to other types of synaesthesia.
Acknowledgements
I am grateful to Daphne Maurer for comments on the first draft of this article, and to John Harrison, Maria Wyke, Nick Humphrey and Helen Weyland for helpful discussions over the years.
Notes
<1> Due to an editorial error an earlier draft of this article was uploaded to the PSYCHE www site in March 1996. As soon as this error was detected it was removed and replaced with the current version. All citations should refer to the article in its current form and not to its earlier incarnation.
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Copyright (c) Richard E. Cytowic 1995
PSYCHE, 2(10), July 1995
http://psyche.cs.monash.edu.au/v2/psyche-2-10-cytowic.html
KEYWORDS: consciousness, emotion, perception, subjectivity, synesthesia, neurology.

ABSTRACT: Synesthesia (Greek, syn = together + aisthesis = perception) is the involuntary physical experience of a cross-modal association. That is, the stimulation of one sensory modality reliably causes a perception in one or more different senses. Its phenomenology clearly distinguishes it from metaphor, literary tropes, sound symbolism, and deliberate artistic contrivances that sometimes employ the term "synesthesia" to describe their multisensory joinings. An unexpected demographic and cognitive constellation co-occurs with synesthesia: females and non-right-handers predominate, the trait is familial, and memory is superior while math and spatial navigation suffer. Synesthesia appears to be a left-hemisphere function that is not cortical in the conventional sense. The hippocampus is critical for its experience. Five clinical features comprise its diagnosis. Synesthesia is "abnormal" only in being statistically rare. It is, in fact, a normal brain process that is prematurely displayed to consciousness in a minority of individuals.
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On Creativity And The High IQ Connection

We where reading a LIFE book called the individual and it said that there is not a connection between creativity and high IQ. It said that most people that have high IQ's are not creative. And people will lower IQ's are usually more creative but they don't know why this is. It says earlier on in the book that people that score average and high on an IQ test are good at coping with school learning e.g. doing what they are told and compiling with the work they are given.

We know that artistic people just express themselves more and don't follow everyone else like sheep. You can see this individualism just by taking a trip to an art college or visiting an art class the chances are that they will have a different style of fashion to normal people. Everybody else just wants to be accepted by different social groups and society. Were as artistic creative people don't care as much to be accepted they just want to be themselves (unique) and create unique work. Therefore they will not care as much for the work that they are given in the school environment were everybody has to do the same work so their IQ test results will suffer. Were as if they took a proper interest in learning and being the same as everyone else there test results would be higher.

In another book that I read it goes to explain that the great minds that have changed are world or made history e.g. Newton and de Vinci would have had high IQ's I have been guided believe that this is false because these great minds would have to be thinking differently then everybody else to come up with their ideas and creative art. Therefore if they did take a modern IQ test they would be shown to have a low IQ because they would not take an interest in learning what other people tell them because they are to busy trying to find things out for themselves or creating wonderful works of art.

The following is quoted from Carl Sagan's COSMOS, of which the Lower ego's farther acquired via his inner light guiding him, the same can be said for My contact with UFO's written by Dino Kraspedon with amazing revelations from a space traveller, known only as the captain of the flying saucer.      
However enough of this! We will now quote the following from the Cosmos,

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We will now quote the following from the Cosmos,

Chapter III
The Harmony Of Worlds

Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you establish their rule on earth?
-The Book of Job
All welfare and adversity that come to man and other creatures come through the Seven and the Twelve. Twelve signs of the Zodiac, as the religion says, are the twelve commanders on the side of light; and the Seven planets oppress all creation and deliver it over to death and all manner of evil: for the twelve signs of the Zodiac and the seven planets rule the fate of the world.

-   The late Zoroastrian book, the Menok I xrat

To tell us that every species of thing is endowed with an occult specific quality by which its acts and produces manifest effects, is to tell us nothing; but to derive two or three general principles of motion from the phenomena, and afterwards to tell us how the properties and actions of all corporeal things follow from those manifest principles, would be a very great step.

-   Isaac Newton, Optics

We do not ask for what useful purpose the birds do sing, for the song is their pleasure since they were created for singing. Similarly, we ought not to ask why the human mind troubles to fathom the secrets of the heavens... The diversity of the phenomena of nature is so great and the treasures hidden in heaven so rich, precisely in order that the human mind shall never be lacking in fresh nourishment.

-   Johannes Kepler, Mysterium Cosmographicum

IF WE LIVED ON A PLANET WHERE NOTHING EVER CHANGED, there would be little to do. There would be nothing to figure out. There would be Impetus for science. And if we lived in an unpredictable world, where things change in random or very complex ways, we would not be able to figure things out. Again there would be no such thing as science. But we live in an in-between universe where things change according to patterns, rules, or as we call them, Laws of nature. If I throw a stick up in the air, it always falls down. If the sun sets in the West, it will always rise again the next morning in the East. And so it becomes possible to figure things out. We can do science, and with it we can improve our lives.      
 Human beings are good at understanding the world. We have always been. We were able to hunt game or build fires only because we had figured something out. There was a time before television, before motion pictures, before radio before books. The greatest part of human existence was spent in such a time. Over the dying embers of the campfire, on a moonless night, we watched the stars.
 The night sky is very interesting. There are patterns there. Without even trying, you can imagine pictures.

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This is as to signify and to note to the readers, therefore being ourselves, that all one need do is take some of ones time to fix his or hers gaze upon the desired body i.e. stars or moons. Once the gaze is held constantly the stars move, It must be noted that if one looks at the moon they can witness it's beautiful aura, so the moon is and has always been our second sun!  


The Dumeei Scenario  

The Lower ego is that part of the individual mind which is absorbed with form so much so that it denies itself this is said in every sense of the word, as light comes into contact with the vitreous humour the light hits the retina this records the image upside down and in 2D. At this stage the Individual Mind perceives the light as the same light of itself and thus we have vision regardless of the Lower egos denial and firm hold, this process is due to Man being made in gods image, that is to say the Divine Universal Minds Internal Impressed Image, or DUMIII. It is probable that many people have been blind due to this process forced upon oneself, and thus have been cured by themselves, again we speak in every sense of the word. An example of this kind of brought on scenario is the fight or flight situation, where it is know a man will become so afraid that he will unknowingly deny himself and his senses, as in sight and such alike, in this scenario the Lower ego has become hopeless and has literally denied itself. Nobody wants to be a dumiii, therefore time travellers let the light from within awake!            
   
To think more about this we must question ourselves. Are we our body or are we our character? Our character being thought that is contained from within. Now many people round these forms have a form of awareness like this, but what of the ignorant man who only believes what he can see and touch do we think the ignorant man, or the dumeei, looks at himself and sees his minds light as his character? Or do we think he looks at his body, compares and wonders how other people compare themselves to him, his accomplishments, intelligence, presentation, and reputation? Equal to himself or lower then himself? Or do we think that he looks upon his body and compares his body size and shape to others, and then due to his unawareness his own unregistered insecurities notes himself as either above us or below us due to this, the unaware mans actions are chosen for him and the man continues a life of uncontrolled actions until he looks within himself. The unaware man believes he can learn nothing from himself therefore he places his hope not in himself but on external forces.

The Lower Ego is mans tool to decode his own light, he has been using his ego as a tool for self-praise and thus has forgotten its original purpose, that is to decode 'the image' it is known that the colour the eye perceives is in fact every other colour in the spectrum bar the colour perceived, this clearly shows that mans ego is but a tool to read/decode his own thoughts.    

On the Speed of light

The following is quoted from the Tutankhamun prophecies; let the reader be aware of its purpose.  

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Chapter 4 The Sacred Secret

The UFO Connection

Captain Bruce Cathie flew for New Zealand Airways for more then 25 years. His story begins in 1952 with the sighting of a strange craft in the skies above Mangere, Auckland. It was like anything he had seen before. Subsequent investigations failed to explain away the anomaly; there where no known weather balloons or civilian or military aircraft in the area at the time. Others who shared this experience verified his account, confirming that it was not a trick of the eye or an aberration of light. The Object whatever it was remained unidentified.

Four years later, flying at 2,135 meters (7,000 feet) on a clear, calm evening; Cathie experienced his second UFO sighting. The Flight the Auckland to Parapraumu DC3 was unexceptional, until a bright green disk appeared in the east about at a height of 3,050 metres (10,00 feet). Together, pilot and co pilot watched the 610-meter (2,000-foot) craft cruise across the sky, leaving to crescent- shaped vapour trails in its wake. Halfway across Cook Strait, a small object shot down from the craft and disappeared. The trajectory of the object persuaded Cathie that the module must be under intelligent guidance. Then in a flash of light, the disk disappeared.

The following day, news reports carried the story of a large explosion that accord at high altitude just north of nelson. The resultant shock wave shook buildings, causing widespread damage to windows and greenhouses. Intrigued by these and other sightings, Cathie began years of systematic observation, data accumulation and analysis of UFO sightings around New Zealand. Soon, patterns emerged in reports of sightings, which seemed to cluster along geomagnetic aerial pathways. The Behaviour of craft also conformed to a pattern; rapid approach, instantaneous acceleration, geometric movement and then disappearance, as suddenly and inexplicably as they had appeared.

The analysis raised questions. Why did some sightings appear along specific pathways? What forces enabled these craft to defy the laws of physics, as we understand them, in accelerating from standstill to the speed of light instantaneously? Could the craft be in someway sensing, and in some way harnessing, the magnetic and gravitational fields of the earth, facilitating this type of movement? And, most important, did the earth's magnetic and gravitational fields contain pathways, like ley lines, which might be used as favoured gateways for alien craft visiting out planet?

Cathie's enquiries spread further afield, embracing sightings of others worldwide. For the first time the co-ordinated collectivisation of data confirmed UFO sightings clustered along a geometric grid pattern that enveloped the earth. In order to establish the exact location of the fixed grid, projected on the earth's surface from the sky above, it was necessary to first quantify the location of the grid geographically. One way of doing this was to use a series of simultaneous mathematical equations, where simultaneity between equations occurs only at pathway crossovers (nodes)

Cathie's unique equations included the speed of light as predicted by Albert Einstein in his theory of relativity (300 million meters per second) and Isaac Newton's algorithm for the force of gravity.

Cathie's hunch was that variation in the earth's gravitational and magnetic field may be the underlying cause of the aerial grid above. The clusters of UFO's which show such interests in the grid could indeed using the lines of which the grid comprises to navigate or perhaps in some way to harness the different power, inherent within gradient fields, as a source of motive power in their craft. His enquiries now shifted away from UFO's, which he was quite certain existed, towards a search for theoretical earth grid that might reveal pathways of gravitational and magnetic variance.

His calculations became increasingly complex as he pursued the possibilities. It soon became clear that Einstein's figure for the speed of light, calibrated in units of meters, was fine for straight lines between two points but woefully inadequate when it came to measuring circular functions of the earths grid. To make the calculations easier he converted Einstein's figure into a circular function calculating the distance covered by light in angular degrees per second (around the earths surface) rather then in metres per second.

Cathie also realised that, because light was electromagnetic, waves crossing the grid lines would be affected by variations in the magnetic and gravitational fields. Low flying aircraft, and mariners are aware of a similar problem with icebergs, which do not always show up on radar; radar beams in certain conditions, may be deflected upwards when encountering cold air close to an iceberg, and again be deflected downwards on encountering warm air after passing over the iceberg. The beam does not make contact with the iceberg, and the iceberg is therefore not reflected back to the radar transceiver to show on the screen.
With this in mind, it became clear that the speed of light, on earth could not be a constant value, as Einstein had hypothesized, because gridlines would cause a small variation to light waves as they passed over grid pathways, like the radar wave and the Iceberg.
  His new calculations showed that the speed of light amounts to 144,000 minutes of arc per second (there are 60 minuets of arc in one degree) and that the speed would vary around this figure as light crossed grid pathways. (See the following books: Harmonic 33, Harmonic 695, the pulse of the universe, Harmonic 288, the bridge to infinity: Harmonic 371244 and the Harmonic conquest of space by Bruce L. Cathie) Before we consider the obvious implications of this figure, in regard to their own investigations, others saw implications for themselves. Einstein had determined that mass (m) maybe converted to energy (e): for example, coal may be burned, releasing heat and a residue of ash. Additionally, he showed that a great deal of energy remains within the ash and that this energy could not be released further unless the atoms that make up the residue were smashed apart he discovered that e= mc2 which means simply that the energy (e) contains within a quantity of mass (m) could be calculated by taking the atomic weight (300,000,000 meters per second). The greatest release of energy (explosion) would therefore be achieved by crashing heavy weight radioactive atoms, found in elements like plutonium or uranium, against each other until they smash themselves apart. When this happened, a chain reaction occurs between atoms, causing an enormous explosion. This is how the Atom bomb works.
  The knowledge of how to make an atom bomb is freely available in public libraries throughout the world, and yet it seems curious that no terrorist group has yet been able to explode a device. Cathie's work may explain the reason for this; he maintains that because the speed of light 'c' on earth changes, the value of e, in the equation e=mc2, must also change. This means that in order for a bomb to explode, it must be programmed with the exact geographical co-ordinates of its intended target. The device then has to be modified to make allowances for variations in the speed of light (the earth grid effect) and then the bomb must be delivered to the exact point of delivery before and explosion can possibly occur. This is not mentioned in any textbook or library. Cathie's calculations show that an atom bomb cannot explode until it is programmed in this way.
  Generally, the efficacy of an independent scientist research can be measured by the amount of interest shown by security forces and esoteric groups, on the one hand, and the disproportionate lack of interest shown by orthodox scientific community to the work, on the other. Cathie's home has been ransacked and bugged. His telephone has been routinely tapped. He and his family have been followed, their activities monitored and their mail interfered with, his work has been ignored by the scientific community, which seems to suggest that Cathie has indeed made a scientific discovery, which displeases those with closed minds and those with something to hide. But facts do not cease to exist simply because they are ignored.
  The implications of Cathie's discoveries on our own investigations are more far reaching. We have seen how the number 144,000 is common to many of the world religions, in particular as revealed by revelation, Lord Pacal and Tutankhamun. Cathie's figure for the speed of light suggests that prophesies of the Maya, Egyptians and the bible, in regard 144,000, refer not to those who have 144,000 written on their forehead. But instead to those who Radiate Light (144,000) from the forehead.
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CaCoDeMoN you have no idea what you just said! Why did you wink? You silly dumiii, you know not what you do just as the rest of the dumiii's!

"Donut" could be encoded as command DO NOT, if a person is doing silly things.wise"

very wise aleshah, although you don't know what you just said or what you just did!

Love to you all!

Cacodemon would I create the word dumiii just to replace it with unbeliever? Would I be that silly? I don't waste the word, the brackets are there for a reason just as this whole post and everyone posting are all posting for a reason. Does an unbeliever know he is an unbeliever?

I was just about to post the statement which included numbered commandments, I read your do Not as a warning, I checked my emails and had an email from a friend I shall show this email below.

The Guys' Rules...
> > >       At last a guy has taken the time to write this all down.
> > >Finally...the
> > >      guys' side of the story. We always hear of the Rules from the
> female
> > >      side.
> > >      Here are The Rules from the male side.
> > >      These are our rules. Please note... these are all numbered 1...on
> > >       purpose.
> > >      1. Men are not mind readers.
> > >      1. Learn to work the toilet seat.  You're a big girl.  If it's
up,
> > >put
> > >      it down.  We need it up, you need it down.  You don't hear us
> > >      complaining about you leaving it down.
> > >      1. Sunday sports.  It's like the full moon or the changing of the
> > >tides.
> > >      Let it be.
> > >      1. Crying is blackmail.
> > >      1. Ask for what you want.  Let us be clear on this one:
> > >      Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints
> do
> > >not
> > >      work!
> > >      Just say it!
> > >       1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every
> > >question.
> > >      1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it.
> > >That's
> > >      what we do.  Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.
> > >      1. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a
doctor.
> > >      1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.
> In
> > >       fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days.
> > >      1. If you think you're fat, you probably are.  Don't ask us.
> > >       1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways and one of
the
> > >ways
> > >      makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one.
> > >      1. You can either ask us to do something or tell us how you want
it
> > >      done. Not both.  If you already know best how to do it, just do
it
> > >      yourself.
> > >       1. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during
> > >       commercials.
> > >      1. Christopher Columbus did not need directions...and neither do
> we.
> > >      1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings.
> > >      Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color.  Pumpkin is also a
> > >fruit.
> > >      We have no idea what mauve is.
> > >      1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "Nothing," we will act
like
> > >      nothing's wrong.  We know you are lying, but it is just not worth
> the
> > >      hassle.
> > >      1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an
> > >answer
> > >       you don't want to hear.
> > >      1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is
> > >      fine...Really.
> > >      1. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared
> to
> > >      discuss such topics as rugby, the shotgun formation, or golf.
> > >      1. You have too many shoes.
> > >      1. I am in shape.  Round is a shape
> > >      1. Thank you for reading this.  Yes, I know, I have to sleep on
the
> > >      couch tonight; but did you know men really don't mind that?  It's
> > >like
> > >      camping.
> > >      Pass this to as many men as you can...to give them a laugh.
> > >      Pass this to as many women as you can...they will laugh louder.

I then checked my junk folder and found another email from my friend this one follows, i encourage all serious readers to examine all thy posts with deep thought, i dont waste the word.

The Brazilian congress is now voting on a project that
will reduce
the
Amazon forest to 50% of its size. It will take 1
MINUTE to read this,
but
PLEASE put your names on the list and forward this on
as instructed
below.
First, some facts: the Amazon rainforest is
responsible for the
generation of 20% of the oxygen that we on this earth
breathe,
30% of the world's freshwater is contained within the
Amazon basin,
60%
of
the cancer fighting drugs used today are derived from
plants that can
only
be found within the Amazon rainforest.
The area to be deforested is 4 times the size of
Portugal and would
be
mainly used for agriculture and pastures for
livestock. All the wood
is
to
be sold to international markets in the form of wood
chips, by large multinational companies. The truth is
that the soil
in
the
Amazon forest is useless without the forest itself.
Its quality is
very
acidic and the region is prone to constant floods. At
this time more
than
160,000 square kilometres deforested with the same
purpose are
abandoned and
in the process of becoming deserts, meaning that this
proposal is in
the
short-term interests of a few, & in the long term
interests of none.
Please copy (cut & paste) the entire text into a 'new
e-mail', put
your
complete name in the list below, and send to everyone
you know.
(DON'T JUST FORWARD IT - AS IT WILL THEN END UP WITH
ROWS AND ROWS of
'>'s -
which discourages people from sending on). If you are
the 400th
person
to
sign please send a copy to: fsaviolo@openlink.com.br
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156 - Helen Hassan, Leeds, UK
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206-Nisaa Jetha, Montreal, Quebec - Canada
207-AdamSHamoon, Montreal, PQ Canada
208-Christine Scanlon,Kingston Canada
209-Mark Masotti, Kingston, ON, Canada
210-Alexandra Hughes 211-Elliot Hughes
212-LesleyCampbell
213- Lorna Bauer
214-Hilary Bauer
215-Kate Hutcheson, Toronto Canada
216-Jessica Purbrick, Ballina, NSW, Australia
217 - Mike Xavier, Miami, QLD, Australia
218-Robynne Hammer,Leeds, UK
219-Alexander Moore, Bristol, UK
220-Rupert Skinner, Manchester,UK
221-JONATHAN JARRETT-KERR, london uk
222- Sarah Jarrett-kerr, Bristol UK
223 - Caroline Gent, Somerset UK
224 - xander pearson,high littleton.
225- Claire Hunt, Salisbury, UK
226- Rupert Harland, Manchester, UK
228- Max Fraser, London,England
229 - Alice Weldon, Devon, England
230 - Quentin Hicks, Somerset, England
231 - Rory Shaw, London, England
232 - William Lawes, Oxford, England
233 - Victoria Theaker, Bristol, UK
234 - Nicholas Drake, Paris, France
235 - Martin Aveling, Bristol, UK
236 - Harriet Wray, Bristol, UK
237 - Amy-Louise Harris, Durham, UK
238 - Tamzin Davis, London, UK
239 -Tom Spreyer, Edinburgh UK
240 - Andrew Wallach, California, United States
241 - Roxanne Hampl, California, U.S.
242- Naraya Tarr, Queensland, Australia
243- Kellie Smith, Queensland, Australia.
244- Bonnie Jenkins, Queensland, Australia
245 - Anne Moen, Queensland, Australia
246 - Tom Scarlett, Queensland, Australia
247- Rebecca Peters, Queensland, Australia
248- Jules Faber, Queensland, Australia
249 - Darwin Nagy, Queensland, Australia
250 - Michelle Rizal, Queensland, Australia
251 - Christian Ronquillo, Queensland, Australia
252 - Simon Dunn, Byron Bay, Australia
253 - kol dimond , mullumbimby, Australia
254 - Maarten & Gill van Yzendoorn, NSW, Australia
255 - Rosalind Foy, NSW Australia
256- pierre desombre- Tours France
257- Benoit Desombre- New York, USA
258- Lionel Bissoon - Florida
259 Aleta St James - NY, NY USA
260 Antony Baskar Inigo - Chennai - India
261 Joanna Kossak-Cox, London United Kingdom
262 Don Vermeulen, Nijmegen, Holland
263 Lesley Warner, Leeds, Yorkshire, England.
264 Pippa Scott, Leeds, Yorkshire England.
265 Yvonne Stroud, Leeds. West Yorkshire, England
266 Neil Stroud, Leeds. West Yorkshire, England
267 Michael Goldstone, Leeds, Yorks. England
268 Jacques Sm ekens, London, UK
269 Jeremy Halliday, Cheshire UK
270MoniqueShawDavis,Farnham,UK
271 Hannah Moore-Morris, Guildford, UK
272 Amanda Simpson, Surrey, UK
273 Clare Barbary, Bracknell, Berkshire, UK
274 Angela Sewell, London, UK
275 John & Liz Mumford, Dorking, Surrey, England.
276 Andrew Sordyl, Walton on Thames, UK
277 Solveig Nielsen-Brown London UK
278 Nicola del Forno Lyon, France
279 Véronique Bouchard Lyon, France
280. Cecil Hollingsworth, Los Angeles California
281.Jutta Maibaum, Carriacou, Grenada
282. Susan Payetta, Carriacou, Grenada
283. Rod Armitage, Winchester,Hampshire, UK.
284. Rachel Armitage, Chandlers Ford, Hampshire, UK.
285. Soraiya Pasha, Portsmouth, Hampshire, UK
286. Andrew Bell, Southampton, UK
287. Charlie Dacke,Portsmouth, UK
288. Jo Taylor, Portsmouth, UK
289. Ellen Giddey, Bath, UK
290. Jane Brickwood, Hayling Island, UK
291. Sue Lewis, London, UK
292. Linda Harrison, London UK
293 Melanie Harrison, London, UK
294. Laure Zaoui, London, UK
295 Valerie Goury, London, UK
296 Mark Brown, London, UK
297 Gina Latner, London, UK
298 Victoria Herman, London, UK
299 Daniel Herman, London, UK
300 Lisa Roukin, London, UK
301 Alan Grady, London, UK
302 Mark Davies, London, UK
303 - Rafe Potter, London, UK
304 - Brenton Oakley, London, UK
305 - Kevin Albright, Melbourne, Australia
306 Alice Beale, Melbourne, Australia
307 Emma Danchin, Melbourne, Australia
308 Melanie Blint, Melbourne, Australia
309 Thanh-Lan Gluckman, Melbourne, Australia
310 Maree Norden, Melbourne, Australia
311 Jock Mackenzie, Melbourne, Australia
312 Ellie Scott, London, UK
313 Laura Copley, UK
314 Moa Brattwall, Sweden
315 Tove Posselt, Gøteborg, Sweden
316 Jonna Larsson, Göteborg, Sweden
317 Liv Larsson, Göteborg, Sweden
318 Alanna Lorenzon, Adelaide Australia
319 Alice Macdonald, Bristol, England
320 Olivia Macdonald, Oxford, England
321 Geoffrey Piddock, Sheffield, England
322 Charlie Hutchings, Nottingham England
323 Belinda Hutchings, Birmingham England
324 Ann Fletcher, Birmingham UK
325 holly timmermans uk
326 Wendy Hopkins, Birmingham, UK
327 Dave Alexander, Birmingham, UK
328 Linda Strain, Birmingham UK
329 Annette Naudin, Birmingham UK
330 Jane Fowden
331 Mark Patchett
332 Jack Patchett
333 Megan Patchett
334 Martin Purcell, Huddersfield, England
335 Jayne Healem, Huddersfield, England
336 David Duthie, Montrose, Angus, Scotland,UK
337 Amanda Armitage, Scotland
338 Alice Uren, Manchester, UK
339 Lynne Richmond, Manchester, UK
340 Mike Dagley, Dublin, Ireland
341 Goff Lalor, Dublin, Ireland
342 Sarah Fields, Dublin, Ireland
343 Conor Kelleher,Cork, Ireland
344Austin Hopkirk, Belfast N. Ireland
345 Brad Robson, Fermanagh N.Ireland
346 Michael Ellison, Rochester, Kent, UK
347 Jacqui Moffatt, Brighton, UK
348 Lorna Overend, Belfast, NI
349 Rob Sheldon, Sandy, Beds, UK
350 Richard Winspear, Potton, Beds, UK
351 Dave Suddaby, Co. Mayo, Ireland
352 Keith Fairclough, Orkney, UK
353 Lee Shields, Orkney, Scotland
354 Christina Turtle, Bangor, N.Ireland
355 Nina Chapman Holywood, N.Ireland
356 Bryony Middleton, Edinburgh, UK
357 Catherine Fletcher, Bristol, UK
358 Gareth Fysh-Foskett, Bristol, UK
359 Bethany Fenton, Oxford, UK
360 Chris Wheen, London, UK
361 James Jaggs, London, UK
362 Suzannah Pepys, York, UK
363 Philly Dyson, Hampshire, UK
364 Harry Marshall, East Sussex, UK
365 Hannah Williams, Birmingham, UK
366 Imogen Comyn, Witshire, UK
367 Tim Fosh, Durham, UK
368 Jeannie Foulsham, Oxford, UK
369 Libby Hickman, Nottingham, UK
370 Grace Wyatt, Cambridge UK
371 Sarah Garrod, Durham UK
372 Thomas Cadwaladr, Manchester, UK
373 Katie Davidson, Manchester, UK
374 Lorna Eden, Leeds, UK
375 James O'Brien, Leeds, UK
376 Bradley James Davies,UK

This email and all your words caused me to change the next post for the commandments were numbered, thankyou all love to you all, even the poor dumiii's
#62
"In my view, the willingness of Mark (or rather his source, Peter) to admit that Jesus bombed in his home town makes the other miracle stories more credible."

Bezerker I find this very interesting, for I first set out to issue challenge towards your statement, its 3:45pm and I have been writing and thinking about this now for a good few hours, as I am writing, all that is written below is what has followed to help me think. I am not well versed in scripture but I seem to find what is needed when it is needed. So what follows is all I have written within the last few hours/days. Please let me know what you think.      

I think that Jesus may have been semi conscious, meaning in-between states of consciousness, between the consciousness of the farther and the consciousness of his own ego and higher self ect ect, he may have slipped between these states of consciousness as he adjusted his will to the will of the farther. It is also possible that as he drifted in-between these states, unbeknownst to himself he subconsciously downloaded newfound ideals, and that whilst in his earth inherited ego perceived these 'ideals' as his own newfound ideals.

With this possibility it is also possible that while at home he may have gradually drifted in these states, grasping ideals unknowingly, unaware of this condition and perceiving these newfound grasped ideals as his own, it would be understandable that he would have wanted to share the ideals with others, then after expressing the ideals as his own ideals with some members of his family is there any wonder why they rejected his ideas? Could this be because Jesus so thought 'his ideas' where right, we can take the possibility that his family may have already rejected Jesus' ideals quite simply because some of the family knew that the 'ideas' were not his own ideas, but ideas of the farther. His brothers if not in the know, on hearing these ideas would naturally feel inferior, and with his own family strictly rejecting his ideas, it would only be natural that his newfound intuition would direct him to 'get out there' and thus follow his intuition. Perhaps he just went for a walk to calm himself and examine his thoughts maybe even doubting himself, until he found himself standing before John the Baptist, intuition/holy spirit on overload, thus hearing Johns words spoken ' also running on pure intuition/Holy Spirit "I need to be baptised by you, and you come to me?" Jesus would come to an understanding via confirmation that his ideas or rather 'the ideas' were correct, and thus the heavens would open up for him. And this would have been his baptism, following afterward by the symbolic plunge into the river; note water is the symbolic physical counterpart manifestation of nothing.    

We then come to the battleground. Or the temptation of Christ, this could symbolise Jesus battle to submit his will to the will of the farther. His ego trying to deal with the knowledge and confirmation that he was right. This would lead to either submission to the will of the farther or the submission to his ego and the misuse of this information. Literally all the kingdoms of the world would be within Jesus' grasp that is if the ego were submitted to. With this confirmation from heaven he would realise that he had never really eat anything, due to form being image, this may have lead to an unsteady loss of appetite as the conscious mind began to come to terms with this information. Thus his ego would have said to him,

"He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone"

This could mean Jesus' pondered on the thought of suicide justified because if he were right angels would save him from his fall. Then having examined his thoughts and memory of scripture concluded via intuition/holy spirit and faith in scripture that it was wrong to test the Lord God. Then eventually Jesus' ego begins submits itself to the will of Christ the son of the farther.  

"Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "  

And after the beginning of submission, Jesus intuition/Holy Spirit informs him that he must preach.                

With the possibility of this semiconscious condition we can come to see why Jesus   travelled back to his hometown with the disciples, and I think he did this to teach them and to hint at something.

He may have already known there was lack of faith to be worked with within his town, If this were correct it would mean that Jesus fined shock of the lack of faith. Note to yourselves if is a non-existence word, if this were correct then for what reason would this deception be employed for who was the deception employed for and what could it be trying to tell us?

Remember! If is a non-existence word!! Whenever someone says if the word is immediately invalid and non-existing, this is but a hint for the serious reader.  

We could say that maybe it is a double word, like a word that can be used to mean one thing, but can mean something quite different. It could be a statement intended to convey how Jesus felt when he first sort to convey the word to his family, and the rejection he felt. However it could be a hint laid out to reveal something at the right time.        

On Simon Peter

Matthew Jesus walks on water

22Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go ahead of him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowd. 23After he had dismissed them, he went up to the mountainside by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone,24 but the boat was already a considerable distance from the land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.25 during the forth watch of the night Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. 26When the disciples saw him walking on the lake they were terrified. "It's a ghost," they said, and cried out in fear.
27But Jesus immediately said to them: "take your courage! It is I. Don't be afraid."
28 "Lord it is you," Peter replied, "Tell me to come you on the water"
29 "come," he said.
Then Peter got out of the boat, walked on the water and came towards Jesus. 30But when he saw the wind he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out "Lord save me!"
31 immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"

Peters confession Of Christ

13When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the son of man is?"
14They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15"But what about you?" he asked. Who do you say I am?"
16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my farther in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build a church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven"20Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone he was the Christ.      

Jesus predicts his own death

21From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day raised to life.
22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. "Never, lord!" he said, "This shall never happen to you!"
23Jesus turned and said to Peter, Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.    

Why is it that Jesus gives Simon the name peter? We know that Jesus was a master planer and that he didn't do things without a reason to do so. So surly there is important reasons for this act, and not just because he liked the name Peter better then Simon.

The Transfiguration

17After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his cloths became as white as light. 3Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put three shelters--- one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah."5While he was speaking a bright could enveloped them, and a voice said from the cloud said this is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!"
6When the disciples heard this; they fell face down to the ground terrified. But Jesus came and touched them. "Get up," he said. "Don't be afraid" 8When they looked up they saw no one except Jesus.
9As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus said to them don't tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead                    

Why was it that Peter wanted to set up three tents? What thoughts were going through his mind at that moment?

Jesus predicts Peter's denial

31Then Jesus told them, "This very night you will all fall on account of me, for it is written:

"I will strike the Shepard, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'

32But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee."
33Peter replied, "Even if all fall away on account of you I never will."
34"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "This very night, before the cock crows, you will disown me three times."
35But Peter declared, "Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you." And the other disciples said the same.      

And as we know Peter does deny knowing Jesus, three times and is very upset, but is he upset because he denied Jesus or is there another reason for his dismay?

Matthew 26
22They were very sad and begun to say to him one after the other, surly not I Lord?
23Jesus replied, the one who has dipped his hand into the bowel with me will betray me. 24The Son of man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to the man who betrays the son of man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.
25Then Judas, the one who was to betray him, said,
"Surly not I Rabbi?"
Jesus answered, "Yes, it is you"

This is the same sort of situation as with the Hopi Indians, when they waited for everyone else to pick the ears of corn before them, thereby proving themselves worthy of the task. Therefore how was it that Judas betrayed Jesus if Christ commanded him to betray Jesus? How can one betray someone if one is asked to betray via command of the Christ? And if Judas didn't betray Jesus Christ, who did?
Jesus washes the disciples feet John 31.2, 4-7
Jesus and his disciples were at supper...Jesus rose from the table, took off his outer garment, and tied a towel around his waist. Then he poured some water into a basin and begun to wash the disciples' feet and dry them with the towel around his waist. He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, "Are you going to wash my feet lord?"

Jesus answered him, "you do not understand now what I am doing but you will understand later."

Peter declared, "Never at any time will you wash my feet!"

"If I do not wash your feet, "Jesus answered, "You will no longer be my disciple."

Simon Peter answered, "Lord, do not wash only my feet, then! Wash my hands and head, too!"

Jesus said, "Anyone who has had a bath is completely clean and does not have to wash himself, except for his feet; His whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not everyone of you. 11For he knew who was going to betray him, and that is why he said not everyone was clean.
12When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. "Do you understand what I have done for you?" he asked them. 13"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord', and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one anthers feet. 15i have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. I tell you the truth, no servant is greater then his master, nor a messenger greater then the one who has sent him. Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them."                    

Jesus reinstates Peter
15When they had finished eating, Jesus said to "Simon Peter, Simon son of John, do you truly love me more then these?"
"Yes lord," he said, "you know that I love you"
Jesus said, "Feed my lambs"
16Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me?"
He answered, "Yes lord you know I love you"
Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep"
17The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John do you love me?"
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him a third time "Do you love me?" He said, "lord, you know all things; you know that I love you."
Jesus said "Feed my sheep.18 I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you don't want to go." 19m Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would Glorify God. Then he said to him follow me      
     
3 John

7Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Jesus talked a lot about hypocrites as if this was some kind of hint as well as a message that we know and understand.

Note the following is written in acts

Acts 2

22"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by Gods set purpose and foreknowledge; and you with the help of wicked men put him to death by nailing him to the cross.24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25 David said about him:

"I saw the lord before always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26Therfore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices,
My body will live in hope,
27because you will not abandon me to the grave nor will you let your holy one see decay28You have made known to me the paths of life you will fill me with joy in you presence
29"Brothers I can tell confidently Patriarch David died and was buried and his tomb is here to this day30But he was a prophet and knew that god has promised him on oath that he would place one of his decedents on his throne31seeing what was ahead he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ that he was not abandoned to the grave nor did he body see decay32God has raised this Jesus to life and we are all witnesses of the fact33exalted to the right hand of god he has received through the farther the promised holy spirit and has poured out what you now see and here34 for David did not ascend to heaven and yet he said

"The lord said to my lord, sit at my right hand35 until I make you enemies a footstall for your feet36therefore let all Israel be assured of this god has made this Jesus whom you crucified both lord and Christ"

The Authority Of Jesus Questioned
27They arrived again in Jerusalem, and while Jesus was walking in the temple courts, the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders came to him. "By what authority are you doing these things?" they asked "And who gave you the authority to do this?" "I will ask you one question. Answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I am doing these things? 30Johns Baptism was it from heaven of from men? Tell me!"31They discussed it among themselves and said "if we say from heaven, he will ask, then why didn't you believe him?" But if we say 'from men'..." (They feared the people, for everyone held that john was a prophet.) So they answered Jesus, "We don't know." Jesus said, neither will I tell you by what authority I am doing these things."
#63
Nope sorry I have never thought about how much I would know, if as you put it I hadn't wasted my time preaching to the death. If I did I would have been thinking about myself, not for everyone else. Besides, the death give their game away with every word they speak, for when one knows all are the same light or one must do is decode there brothers/sisters spoken words affect on their own light.

I am here before you all, with every word I expose my soul, tell me why is it Adam and Eve were naked Why were they ashamed? Could it be because everyone mocked/challenged them whenever they tried to explain their own thoughts to them?

Note All scripture is god breathed

The Book of Mormon

1 Nephi 4:3-19

6 And I was led by the spirit, not knowing before hand the things which I should do
7 Nevertheless I went fourth, and as I came near unto the house of Laban I beheld a man, and he had fallen to the earth before me, for he was drunken with wine.
8 And I came to him and found that it was Laban.
9 And I beheld his sword, and I drew it fourth from the sheath thereof; and the hilt thereof was gold, and the workmanship thereof was exceedingly fine, and I saw the blade thereof was of the most precious steel.
10 And it came to pass that I was constrained by the spirit that I should kill Laban; but I said in my heart: never at anytime have I shed the blood of man. And I shrunk and would that I might not slay him.
11 And the spirit said unto me again: Behold the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands. Yea, and I also knew that he had sought to take away mine own life; yea, and he would not hearken to the commandments of the lord; and he also taken away our property.
12 And it came to pass that the spirit said unto me again: slay him for the lord has delivered him into thy hands;
13 Behold the lord slayeth the wicked to bring fourth his righteous purpose. It is better that one man should perish then that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelief.

Judas listened to the words/command of Christ who had inhabited Jesus' body via Jesus willingly submitting his will and adapting to the will of the Christ therefore he wished not to betray Christ for it would be better to not be bourn if one betrayed the word of Christ! Therefore Judas isn't our betrayer, but Simon Peter is a different story altogether...

Indeed why single Simon out and give him the false name Peter?
Indeed why crucify Peter upside-down? This is one reason why they know not what they do!
Peter knew this, for it was his redemption, he denied Christ three times and realised he was the betrayer, Christ came to save the sinners!
Indeed who was talking and referring to who when the son of man is mentioned, we know that the messengers of god were referred to by the God/angles as the son of man, almost as if the messengers name or personality has no meaning and all that matters is the message 'word' they carry rather like the dove carrying its message.

I, self declared BIRDMAN via unexplainable urge around 1997 in the school playing fields and tennis courts where we played football, I screamed at the top of my voice I AM THE BIRDMAN then one of my friends joined in with me he ran circles round me bowing towards my feet yelling at the top of his voice something like GARUDA, GARUDA ALL HAIL GARUDA or actually it might have been BARUDA I'm not really sure had almost everyone pointing and laughing at me in absolute hysterics, hundreds of people. My friend was very tall and big he was running as if possessed towards the people who weren't listening, they found his attitude frightening and ran away and then they listened or begun laughing, I ran around flapping my arms like a bird in flight, laughing my butt off at all the people laughing at me, although at the time I didn't know why I was laughing. After the tennis courts we went to the playing fields and we repeated the same scenario in different parts, we had a large crowd of people following us, we carried this scenario almost daily for a week or so.      
Since then I have been caching up with myself, I think you'll understand me.    

As scripture so beautifully puts it, Satan (the ego not being used to decode the light, but to praise itself) has had its time on earth Jesus built his church upon Peter the church that stands so proudly today!

I write this because I have to, I know were our thoughts/words come from we know synchronicities for the lord works in mysterious ways.    

Can you see where our Raven fits in here?      
   
When Caiaphas prophesied it was the Holy Ghost speaking through him, and he was ignorant of this fact. The post about Caiaphas was I hinting to so to speak, and is written to provoke thought. It's so weird and beautiful but if you're interested you can see through the mystic glass.    

Please don't dismiss the words as mental, for the words are better understood in person face-to-face, eye-to-eye.
#64
"On Hearing the way, the best of men will earnestly explore its length. The mediocre person learns of it, takes it up and sets it down, but vulgar people, when they hear the news, will laugh out loud, and if they did not laugh, it would not be the way."  

"There need to be new people voicing ideas, or creating new worlds for us to live in."

Deep readers beware your in for a scare.

We can change the world for we are the children of the revolution, this being so a warrior is not great because the size of his army but by his word. The Pen/Keyboard is mightier then the sword, take a look around you, as you have mentioned

Religion

Politics

Economics  

All systems all schools of thought and ideas are manifested via the Pen! The hand controls the pen and our thought controls the hand.  

Aileron, you are awake yet your alarm is still running, Get up and switch it off! My friend, how much thought have you given to that film we mentioned? Wouldn't we call that a quite storm? Eh it just so happens that we have a Quite Storm here. We bring our own information together.

Why did you title the thread the Eleventh Hour? What overwhelming force possessed you?

"Whereas, I would say that they were committing an immoral act, however understandable their logic may have been from their perspective and limited knowledge. They may have viewed it as a necessary evil, but that doesn't make it any less evil."

A movie is an act of spontaneous creation and thus the work of the Spirit which always has a reason.

Watch Apocalypses Now; tell me why didn't they kill him? What is the symbolic reference of the sacrifice of the cow? What were they telling us? Why did Kurtz embrace death? Why do people view Kurtz's regime as disgusting or evil instead of natural? Kurtz says that the fighter pilots were told that it is obscene to write bonk on the side of the US bombs. Makes you think.      

Our biggest enemy is ignorance, we where ignorant, and despite what we know we remain ignorant, therefore we must work with ignorance, for our enemy is ignorant of his cause behind his action. Our enemy or rather friend can be helped.

Introducing 'Self'

It is about time we introduced a new word or slang into the English dictionary; this word will be used to subconsciously affect the Light in the head without the lower ego being aware. We are all familiar with the term donut, where one friend will playfully call another a donut; nobody takes offence for this is friendly word.

We will use are enemies greatest weapon against himself; we will use his selfishness against him. To explain, I have many friends who are too in touch with form and thus the Lower Ego, this meaning they know not that they are there thought incased in form. I have been discussing theories with them for some time, during our discussions I have used the term self frequently, this has had a knock on affect, for my friends who know not what they do have introduced this word into our social setting, and now I shall share it with you. While playing, pool doubles or any game computer/sport when one of your friends does a selfish move or play 'not passing the ball' simply exclaim Self in a playful joking manner. Or say one of your friend's walks off and forgets to make you a drink in the kitchen, Self! There are many ways to exclaim self, Ranging from tone volume and happiness put into the word, It is also important to maintain eye contact with the inner will focused on awakening the light of the individual that the command is directed at, use the term and before you know it your friends will be calling you self when there is no reason to do so, this out of sheer habit, need it be mentioned how useful it is to be called self, or even to obtain the nickname self for ten minutes?

Examples, said loudly among friends after friends is really greedy on ISS pro evolution four, four player so your minds are all focused on the same thing and thus slipping into the group lucid moment Self! Everyone laughs.

After realizing we have been selfish for whatever reason, Self! Simple term.

For the Dumiii (Unbeliever)
Self: Slang term used to playfully disrespect ones friend with no harm implied. The dumiii is unaware that when he uses the term self it is benefiting for all in close proximity.

For the Awake (Believer)
Self: Slang term used to bring about the word self (with all its meaning and understanding one can muster) more frequently within ones own reality, greatly beneficial for awakening the Light in the head, Self examination, decoding your environment, bringing others together as a group, sharing the lucid moment and for calming all situations.

Requirements on introducing a new slang term

Immense patients will be required until the leaked word forms itself into the minds of the masses and becomes a popular term. Patience for it might takes some time for your friends to pick up on the word.

Motivation = The right attitude that you can do anything you want, yet restricting yourself only to helping others, if correct state of mind is approached it just happens like a synchronicity and your in flow, anything is possible and your will, will affect others without your knowledge.      

Stamina = to remained yourself its all for the greater good and despite all pain carry on.

After we loose something we realizes what we needed it for, thus destroy the ego and you'll know what its for.  

A changeover has many explanations just like the word self has multiple meanings however if I where to say this document contained changeovers what would I be talking about?  

Know your Enemy!
#65
"You haven't tried much waking them up to this point, did you ?"

My friend I am aware that I to have the risk of being burned, but so do those trapped, who I have said are my light are lights being the same, I risk my life everyday when I cross the road, i risk my soul/light everyday when I wake up. I have spent my life trying to wake people up, I have even had someone spit in my face, I have had a man come towards me whilst I was sitting he stood above me and told me that he would kill me if I didn't shut up, I used the power of my eyes (soul/Light), I looked into his eyes (soul/Light) and challenged him

"Attack me with everything you have, for I am a non violent man and wont raise a finger!"

That scared him, because he knew from the look in my eyes that I meant business, maybe one day he'll ask himself why he wanted to attack me. A few weeks ago when I was still fighting ignorance I preached the word in the local pub, I knew I was speaking truth and I couldn't understand why these people didn't want to hear, (perhaps a pub isn't the best place to preach). Then I went back to the pub around a week later and was approach by a young lady, she told me that everyone thought I was a nutter but she had heard me preaching and had listened to my conversations I had had with my friend, then me and her had a deep conversation about life common sense and the universe, I learnt from her and she from me, I learnt from her that you can't fight ignorance, she told me that all who mock don't want to hear because they don't choose to understand. Was it her talking to me her or her soul? If it was her soul/light then we were talking to ourselves.    

I have mostly subconsciously been doing it (trying to wake people up), (do yourself some back dating) then in the past few years I slowly became aware that I was trying to wake people up, this was when I was fighting ignorance (which can't be done) anybody can wake up if you give them a call, everyone has there own unique number, all one need do is pick their brains and find it, Learning to suggest to the soul without the ego knowing is an art that must be perfected, argumentative suggestion (fighting ignorance) to the ego gets you nowhere.  

Tell me; why are we here? to wake ourselves up? Or are we here to try and learn everything? to tell you the truth I have no hard solid prooth or explanation of why we are here and I am happy with that I wont take the left road or the right road, who knows where they lead? I'll go strait down the middle admitting my earthly ignorance. How can we fight ignorance if we ourselves are ignorant? How would the most high perceive those who seek to explain the unexplainable for their own egos ends?
#66
Thanks for answering most people don't bother if a simple question is asked.

I use this question in the real world, I say hmmm that's strange why doesn't the smoke touch my hand? Which gets people thinking.

You are correct, Smoke does rise due to the temperature of the heat, however there are other forces at work, We should consider that the smoke is less dense then the surrounding air. So there would be two forces at work, temperature and density, amongst a few other forces.
Put your hand above some smoke and observe that the smoke rarely if at all touches your hand; I think this is due to your own electromagnetic heat radiation or aura repelling the less dense and lower temperature electromagnetic heat radiation of the rising smoke, makes you wonder why we use incense, and how the druids controlled fog. Consider a helium balloon, does it rise because heat forces it to rise or because of the volume of the gas? These examples clearly show us that those bodies of lesser density tend to rise. It should be noted we live on a planet near to the Sun and the Sun provides us with our heat. Note it is known that if we heat up a magnet it losses its properties.

So again why is it that heat causes smoke to rise?                

My friend it is of my humble opinion that it is not the souls that have chosen to remain asleep, but that the part of the earthly intellectual ego has dominated the pure light in the head, this light in the head being the light in constant mass communion.

The earthly part of the ego values its own physical intellectual self-knowledge; what use is it for man to see all the details when he isn't looking at the whole picture?

Tell me, your in a house sleeping and your family/friends are asleep, you wake up in the early morning, you smell smoke and come to realisation that the house is on fire, you were sleeping at the front of the house and are closest to the front door which is the only means of escape. Do we run out of the house without a slightest thought of your family/friends, or do you try and wake them up? If you run out without trying to wake them up you wont know if you could have woken them up, however if you tried to wake them up, you might find some of them were already awake but just stuck in there own rooms, again we might find some we only have to nudge a few times in there sleep and they wake up, then again there may be some who are too far gone and despite all shaking and screaming have succumbed to the smoke.

Therefore I will take it upon myself to awake all I can, despite of whether my ego tells me they deserve waking or not. For those lost ones I cant reach, those who mock what they don't understand, they may try my patients, they may infuriate me but I remember they have light in the head and there light is my light.

I would say fighting ignorance makes no sense, I know this from experience.
#67
We have to remember that the ignorant ones or dumiii's which is a personal phrase, require careful nudges into the light. And that we must save all we can. I shall now ask a simple question that I assure everyone is still on topic and leads somewhere, could anyone explain why smoke rises?
#68
"In my view, the willingness of Mark (or rather his source, Peter) to admit that Jesus bombed in his home town makes the other miracle stories more credible."

When I was at school I was a quite boy who kept his thoughts to himself and listened to everything and conformed to everything. I let people who were nasty to me carry on being nasty to me because they didn't know what was the cause of there actions. I remained quite in school and had gathered an early reputation as a protector; this was a reputation people at that age didn't understand. Yes like many others I learnt too much at school, but I didn't come away with many paper qualifications.

In my home village, amongst my friends I am known as the same person as I was from school despite school being five years ago. None of my friends can seem to cope with my 'strange' intellect, I am not writing to say how clever I think I am but just to show that people only remember you as your ego or what your character has shown them, despite all the useless books I have read only a few of my friends can bring it on themselves that the dyslexic jobless fool knows a lot more then they give him credit for.

My whole point is this; do we think Jesus was always conscious of his mission? Or do we think that he gradually became self-conscious until it hit him in the face? With his newfound oneness he may have wanted to share with others, naturally your own backyard is where you start. However they would have known Jesus as his un-conscious character, and his self-conscious character that was preaching was saying things that where quite out of the character that they were used to seeing. This could be why Jesus was shocked because of there lack of faith, he knew he knew and he mistaking thought other people would be interested. Lets say I offered to tell the world information that was more valuable then material wealth do you think anyone would listen to me? However say I started off a new religion and called it the creed of greed with the slogan come to me I can get you anything you want, I would have to many letters to read through which is a sad situation.

It is in human nature to dismiss what you don't understand. Thus in my view manipulation to make miracles more credible is wrong, for I don't think Peter would not do that (lie) but speak the truth no matter how hurtful it was. And this explanation makes just as much sense.  

People do ugly things when you are sure that you are telling them the truth, especially friends and family.
#69
Their may not have even been a (private agreement). Picture the scene you're sitting down at a table with someone you have seen perform undeniable miracles, you love this person with all your heart and would do anything to protect him this man has change your life and many others he has taught you how to live and everything you took for granted. He informs you that one of you will betray him. Imagine the paranoia amongst the disciples, this person is always right he raised Lazarus from the dead via the power of his words; this means they know one of them would betray Jesus. Now the disciples assure Jesus that they won't betray him. These disciples weren't listening hence the symbolic reference of the disciples sleeping when they should have been guarding Jesus while he was praying in the garden. Thus those who assured Jesus they wouldn't betray him didn't listen carefully to what was hinted to them. And how hard it must have been for Judas to come to his decision, a decision he had to make not knowing if it was right or wrong, if he misread his master's words or if his ego was tricking him, I would say that is a pretty hard decision.    

Every-time I watch that movie I notice something new. Did you know that the book of that film was written amongst the public, and that the author wrote in public what he saw? I think this is a very significant fact, we all know how weird reality can get. It is of my opinion that the film is designed to reawaken the light from within. If watched with that intent, (as if it where gods word) because everything is god word. A long time ago I read somewhere about some native tribes that used music to communicate with their gods. I decided to try this out and I have stuck to it and learnt to get better at decoding from this practice for it gives insight into the universal mind via decoding new tunes.

For example limb bizkit's track full nelson gives an insight into Gods wrath.

Why is everybody always picking on me?
Does anybody really know a thing about me?
One of these days we'll be in the same place
In the same place punk, at the very same time
And when it takes place
And you wanna talk sh*t
Then step your butt up, and say it right to my face

You'll get knocked the f*ck out
Cause your mouth's writing checks that your butt can't cash
Knocked straight the f*ck out
Cause your mouth's writing checks that your butt can't cash

I ain't believing all the sh*t you been talking 'bout me
Don't even know me, and still you're talking sh*t about me
One of these days I'm gonna catch you in the act
In the act, red handed
Caught up in the act, punk
And that'll be the day, the one and only day
Then step your butt up, and say it right to my face

You'll get knocked the f*ck out
Cause your mouth's writing checks that your butt can't cash
Knocked straight the f*ck out
Cause your mouth's writing checks that your butt can't cash

Shhhh

So where you at?
Where you been?
I'm sure of the sh*t (I) you was in
Cause this world
Is really small
Can we all get along?
Can we all get along?
And where you at?
Where you been?
I'm sure of the excrement (I) you was in
Cause this world
Is really small
Can we all get along?
Can we all get along?

I'm upset at our people
Who permanently rape us
We're talking
We try to ignore them
Ignore them until they keep talking
They think that they're building an empire
Without us
We've got the torch now
We've got the fire to burn this mutherf*cker down
Town, town
Burn this mutherf*cker down
Town, town
Burn this mutherf*cker now
Down, down
Burn this mutherf*cker now
Down, down
Burn this mutherf*cker

You'll get knocked the f*ck out
Cause your mouth's writing checks that your butt can't cash
Knocked straight the f*ck out
Cause your mouth's writing checks that your butt can't cash

Mutherf*cker!
Just shut your f*cken' mouth!
Bring it on Lethal
Come on  
   

Stepping up and saying it right to my face, translates as your Judgment day.

Another limp bizkit interesting limb bizkit track is faith.

I know not everybody has got a body like me,
but i gotta think twice, before i give my heart away,
and i know all the games you play,
cuz i play them too,
oh but i need some time off from that emotion,
time to pick my heart up off the floor,
but that love comes down without devotion,
well it takes a strong man baby,
but i'm showin' you that door,
i gotta have faith

gotta have faith,
gotta have faith,
gotta have faith!

baby, i know you're askin' me to stay,
say please please please don't go away cuz you're givin' me the blues,
baby, your mind made all the words you say,
can't help but think of yesterday and another who tied me down to the lover boy rules,
before this river becomes an ocean, before you pick my heart up off the floor,
well that love comes down without devotion,
well it takes a strong man baby,
but i'm showin' you that door,
i gotta have faith

gotta have faith,
gotta have faith,
gotta have faith!
get tha f*ck up!!!

i gotta have faith,
i gotta have faith,
i gotta have faith,
i gotta have faith!
faith! ahhhh faith!! ahhhhh!!!!

Hearing these tracks with the earnest intent to hear the words as god's words for the first time can be quite distressing. But what must be remembered is that the lyrics are decoded via the writer's ego. There are many beautiful tunes. And I don't even listen to limp bizkit anymore, these were just examples. I would reccomend Kanya West college dropout for some serious fun decoding!  

Music is the language of the soul  

George Bush isn't stupid, remember don't believe anything that you see on TV. If he were stupid how come he is president? If somebody believes they are more intelligent then someone else it makes them feel good about themselves.
#70
Jenadots, the unconditional love I am talking about I think is a little different from the unconditional love that I think you are thinking about.

For example, a child misbehaves badly and continues to do so. The child won't realise that it is behaving badly until it is shown by someone that it is behaving badly. The mother finds it hard to punish her child but she can still punish the child and love the child at the same time due to her unconditional love of the child of which she created. Therefore when I mention that to grasp god unconditional love, I mean to say that you must remember that even though god loves us his unconditional love is slightly different from our earthly view of unconditional love. If man misbehaves continuously he is crying out for gods unconditional love. Therefore to try and grasps gods unconditional love you must imagine what it would be like if god hated you. I was not saying that god hates us I was saying to try and understand unconditional love this view could be contemplated.

One would need unconditional love to wipe out an entire planet full of inhabitants dearly loved.

Neither am I hostile to Oazaki, I speak the truth I have left information around that when contemplated earnestly proves Oazaki's deception. And who said his predictions failed? Could he be waiting on someone?

Judas did not betray Jesus; the kiss on the cheek was a mark of respect! Hint, hint
It was common practice for the Jews not to talk to the gentiles, therefore the Jews/believers where in the know, the gentiles were not in the know and understandably were a bit confused and wondered why the Jews wanted to kill what they 'Gentiles' perceived as the Jews own messiah.
#71
Check out the properties of the voids within our universe and how they function. This would lead to an interesting parodoxical conclusion. This leads one to ponder on the divine universal mind until...
#72
Nothing ever happens in politics by accident, give them a leader he'll open the gates, in we go! George Bush and associates are doing Gods will; whether they know it or not. If this were not so he would not be president, we must remember god punishes those he loves. To understand Gods love you must be prepared to ask yourself, what if god hates me for gods unconditional love is slightly different from mans love. Ask yourselves who is being punished now? All this was warned in the Reading Of Nature, which was written via Spontaneous semiconscious soul communication, as is this. Due to Oazaki's early deception this was overlooked. I can't say it worries me; I have happy and sad joyful thoughts, which will look after me, but woe to the man who spends his last hours screaming in panic where shall his thoughts take him?      

                        What you reap is what you sow
#73
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Sexual Supression
November 03, 2004, 08:29:12
Thanks for your help and reassurance, I haven't read the initiate but I just checked it out on Amazon. Might order it from the library. (give me a few ideas)

Thanks you have helped me to realise that I do know things even thou I know nothing. :wink:
#74
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Sexual Supression
November 02, 2004, 10:01:53
Wells said

So has anyone actually got any techniques for cultivating/using this pent up sexual energy?


Instead of using youth to hump yourself silly, look for 'truth' or something, anywhere that you can find it. This is a form transformation of sexual energy.

Leo Volont

But sexuality is what holds us to animal consciousness. The first thing my first angel told me was "Only those at the bottom cannot go to the Top". Fixation on sex is fixation on the animal and physical.


I imagine communication and advice from an angel can be hard to forget, Don't Ever Think Of A Black Cat!

Narfellus said

But how much is too much? And if two people are intimately aware of their sexual power in an esoteric way, could it not somehow behoove their own spiritual growth?


I find this very interesting, for via suppressing my sexual power I have put it into other practices. However my practices have come to a limit and it is time for me to tone down on the reading and thinking and get a job and infiltrate society by adding a few of my thoughts now and again to my fellow workers. With this realisation I have come to a change where my suppression is no longer strickly necessary. First off a few weeks ago my sexual suppression unconsciously freed itself, and is now under control so when you say sexual power in an esoteric way what is it you mean by this?

Now I don't mean to blow my own trumpet now, but with this new confidence I can seriously walk up to any person and engage them with conversation about the universe in such a way as to provide and interesting lead conversation that doesn't need to evolve physics or metaphysics. I have done this and I have attracted within the last week unintentionally many ladies to me via this stimulating conversation that is almost perfected via study and is within me as a thought form of which I can grab any information I have obtained. In the past I used this information to enter debate in pubs and such alike but within the past few weeks I have found out how useful it is as to give an insight into my way of thinking and my personality.

However I have been thinking whether this is a misuse of the information that I have been handed. For although it is spiritual information, it is still apart of me and defines me as whom I am. I know that this information gives me an advantage, all I need do is open my mouth to speak it and if the receiver is earnest in their listening (like many ladies are) we both learn from each other.

However when I speak I speak to all as souls as if we all are masters, this way I try and listen earnestly to all and not just to what they say but how the decoded thought is relevant to the decoding of my environment. At present I view it as is not my fault if the information I send out attracts people to me.

Or is this an excuse?  

This document as usual has provided me something to seriously think about and is not written just to transfer my thoughts to you all, but to examine my thoughts in the process. So what would we say people, is what I am describing esoteric sexual power and if it is, is it misuse of esoteric sexual power? Or should I keep the mouth shut when it comes to introductions, should I play along with the games of the ego? Or should I use the power of speech as it is supposed to be used?
#75
Every thought that you, yourself conjure, or any plan of action you yourself subject yourself to, you will have to answer for.

Are thoughts just physical or mental?

Do you think that our thoughts wont turn full circle and come back on us?

I don't happen to know much about the rule of three or anything else, but anyone can find out a little information on the number three.

Three of a kind, three kings, three Shepard's, three witches, three judges, three laps, third time lucky, I'll count to three, three dimensions (length x width x high), beginning middle and the end, three wishes, three spirits (ghosts of Christmas past, present and future, the holy trinity, the farther son and the holy ghost, Norse mythology nine worlds are composed of three different levels, the threefold death, three double rolls in monopoly equals in jail, gold for first, silver for second and bronze for third and the Pythagoreans considered three the first true number. These are just a few examples that show mans interest in the number three and how he may have consciously or sub-consciously added importance to this number. Like the number thirteen, can be associated with unlucky things happening like Apollo thirteen, and Friday the thirteenth whereas it is probable that fear of this number is really the cause of these effects, If this be so then what of the number three?  
         
Thoughts are 2D and manifest in the 3D I think once we pass on we will have to deal with every thought that has ever been on our mind, whether these thoughts manifested or swam about within our own pool. Every bad or good thought will be examined, even thoughts that seemed at the time to be harmless could in some way start a chain of effects that we are unaware about and visa versa.

For example, I approach a rock band and have a conversation with them after a gig. I decide that they could make them and myself some cash. This would be purely selfish, however say I offer to manage them free of charge it would seem harmless. However lets say via me managing the band they become famous, egotistical, greedy and a few of them end up marrying women they are purely physically attracted to or marriages out of convenience. A few of them die taking drug overdoses and through all the good intentions a lot of people lead unhappy lives and to top it all off one of the bands songs is played to insight bloody revolution!

Now we could say that all that happened, happened out of the bands free will, however maybe if I hadn't spoke to them after the gig none of the above would have happened and they would have lived long happy lives. Thus all of this would be on my shoulders just as much as the band members.