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#51
Any pointers on how to do that? Just focus awareness on the sub-navel? [:I]
#52
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Qigong and Hermetics
July 03, 2004, 07:47:21
Thanks for the replies! I just finished reading the GREAT BOOKS thread in the Magic section. If you remember anything Inguma just let me know [^]. Is it wise to start with Hermetics or magic in general if you are a beginner in all this (New Age, Meditation, AP etc)? I was thinking about approaching it carefully, starting to meditate once a day and doing some energy work 30-60min/day for about 6 months(?) before starting with Hermetics.

The question is.. does it matter if I start with Hermetics now or later? [:)]
#53
I have just read the whole thread and I must say that Fuzziwig, Mayatnik and you all did a great job [:)], It saddens me to hear that people do not respect this and you had to stop. I hope you can continue in the future, I would've had some questions but I will leave them for now.

Good luck to you and I hope you get better!
#54
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Qigong and Hermetics
July 02, 2004, 15:51:50
Thank you Moonburn, I will check those out!

I just found this great thread (which was sticky in the Magic section, how could I miss it![^]). If anyone else has missed it, here it is http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5395.
#55
quote:
Originally posted by Nay

I started watching this guy that came on early in the morning and I tried one thing.  The stance where you're on one foot with one arm stretched out in front then the other arm grabbing the other leg behind you.  LOL..did ya get that?  Anyhoo, I then heard that once you get better at Yoga you ummmmmm...have gas because you're so relaxed.  I then stopped all pratices..[:P] So is that true?

Nay



Is that why I hear people say it smells in yoga class? [8)]
#56
Thank you both for excellent answers [^]. I will keep trying, like boydster said. If I never give up, how can I fail? [:D]
#57
Sygmoral, The thing I did to get started with this was to take your palm (either hand) and with the other hand start doing a circular motion on the palm and close your eyes, try to really feel that motion. This "woke" the energy up for me and I started getting sensations. When I knew how to focus I could get energy sensations where I wanted (having problems with spine tho [:P]). If you haven't tried that I recommend it, it worked for me.
#58
Hey wh1z3_azz [:D]

I've read the section in Astral Dynamics several times, the thing i'm having problems with is not getting energy sensations in my hands (that is easy). It is the problem of transporting the energy from my hands, up my arms and through my chest into my navel area.
#59
btw, is it okay if I only draw energy from my legs to my navel, or do I have to get it from hands too? There seems to be no effect from the hands, and a huge effect from the legs. [^]
#60
Thanks again Boydster.

I have a few more questions. When i'm doing my Two-Part circuit I notice I have trouble drawing energy from my hands and leading it down to my navel area? Is this going to be a problem, Should I do anything about this?

Another thing, when i'm trying to project (never succeeded yet but coming closer) I always start to feel energy rush mainly in my chest area but I tend to get "sexually aroused" too, what is this? Is it anything to worry about?
#61
Thanks Boydster.

Let me get one thing clear though. I shouldn't start working on my primary centers yet, right? First work on drawing energy from arms and legs to the navel for about 3-6 months and then steadily and carefully start looking at the primary centers, heart, brow etc?
#62
Thanks for the answer!

I have one question.. I hear people using brushing and sweeping the energy. Is it O.K if I use my own kind of method(don't know if this has been mentioned in the book). I use my awareness to move the energy. For example if I am concentrating on my feet I start to "think" that I move the energy and I follow the energy through my legs and into my navel center. And while in the navel center I focus on it for 1-2 seconds and go back to my feet or to my hands. Does this sound O.K? Or do I have to use a sweeping/brushing action? [:)]
#63
Heya,

I've been doing the energy stuff mostly in my legs now. Didn't do it that consistently, altough I did it pretty much a few minutes before I fell asleep. My feet would always be cold so I made them warm :)

Anyway, I have began the Two-Part Circuit since it feels the most comfortable at the time. Where you on for example your breath IN you raise energy from bottom of the feet to your navel and then on your OUT breath you do it from the hands/arms. This is correct right?

My main question is.. How is it supposed to feel in the stomach? Because I am not getting the same sensations as I get in my arms/legs, or feet/hands. When Robert Bruce says "Stomach Wind".. Is that a more nice word for "gas"? [:P] Because I am feeling something in my stomach now after my 30 Minutes session from drawing energy from legs and arms to my navel chakra. Tell me if i'm doing something wrong, or is everything where it should be?

This was my first session with drawing to the navel so I dunno if I should expect anything.. Just wondering how it feels in the beginning [:)]
#64
I am back. So i've been doing mostly leg work all this time.. Sometimes on the hands. I've tried focusing on the spine but it's really freaky moving your awareness there, my eyes want to move there too and I do not get any feeling there..

Sometimes when I lie in bed and my feet are cold I just focus on them and after a minute or two they get warm, so that's nice :) Do you guys have any advice on what I should do? Or should I change anything? I don't want to be doing something that's not neccessary. But I think this is? My main question is then.. What parts should I focus the most on? Legs, Knees, Hands.. Is there anything else now that I'm warming my energy body up.

And btw, I haven't noticed that much changing in my life or body now that i've done energy. Is something supposed to happen? And one more question! [8D]. Has anyone had stomach problems and then started energy work and fixed the stomach problems? Because I have a bit of that and the doctors don't know what it is. It might be stress but I don't really stress (i'm in school), but It could be my subconscious that is stressing and i'm not conscious about it?

Woah, This turned out to be a book. I hope someone answers all these ramblings [:D]
#65
Okay [:)]

At the moment i'm only working my feet, knees and hands. Are there any other parts I should work on? I'll try that spine thing soon. Btw, You can do energywork while at school or watching tv? I tried it today in school and it went fine listening to the boring chemistry teacher and feeling energy in my hands and feet.

Now i'm out of questions [:P]
#66
Ah, Thanks again Kalonek for a great answer. One last question tho, I've been doing this 1-2 hours a day now. When I start to think about any body part I feel tingling almost instantly and when I have focused on that bodypart for some time it starts to get warm. But one thing I haven't experienced yet is clearing blockages. I mean like a wall coming down or anything extraordinary you can feel. Does this mean A) I have few blockaes or B) I am not working hard enough or my blockages are stubborn? [:D]
#67
bump [:P]
#68
Ah, okay. I read somewhere that someone had done clearing their secondary centers in 2 weeks or something? What is that talk about Tactile Imagining etc in the guide? Am I Past all that? [^]
#69
Everything going good so far, One more question tho. How long should I be doing this? Shifting my awareness and feeling energy. And what should be done after that? Just wanting to make everything as clear as possible, I have read the guide if you were thinking about posting the url! [:D]
#70
Success! I sat down, starting to move my awareness to my feet, My feet were a bit coldish. I tried to move my awareness to my right foot, after a few minutes I felt a warm rush moving all over my LEFT foot and it became all warm and fuzzy. I now tried to focus on both my feet (Split Awareness) which worked nice and I got some warmth to my right foot as well. I did this for about 10-15 minutes.

I thought i'd begin on my knees, that was a bit harder but I think I managed to get something happening there, It seemed to hit some kind of a wall half the way up my calves? Anyway, i'm sitting here feeling something going on in my feet and half way up my calves. This must be a good sign?

I will eventually get the fuzzy feeling to reach my knees easier right? Okay, I'm out doing this on my hands then off to sleep [8D]
#71
One more question :) I bet I could get this done all through the day If I wouldn't have to scratch or do a circular motion on the part I'm working. Anyway, getting to the question... How much are you supposed to feel when you aren't doing any scratching/circular motion?

When I close my eyes and shift my awareness to my Toes, Hands or Knees I  can feel a slight tingling sensation. Is this ok? I mean do I still have to do scratching etc or is the tingling sensation enough in the beginning? [8)]
#72
quote:
Originally posted by Kalonek
Well that's what's strange : as i say i really eat not that much, especially proteins (i eat some but almost nothing compared to my old regime, but i still grew some muscular mass (especially in my legs and chest).



Wouh! That is some nice stuff if it's working like that too! :)
#73
How would this affect someone that's trying to build muscle? Still need to eat as much I guess? [8D]
#74
Thanks a bunch for the nice replies, and don't worry. I won't give up, there's too much to miss out on :) One more question tho: What bodyparts am I supposed to be working now?

I'll go read the N.E.W guide again to see if I can find anything interesting [:)]
#75
Okay, So I tried your advice Kalonek, Did the circular motion on both of my palms for approx. 15min each. I didn't get any of the major sensations that people talk about on this board. I just got something like a numbness and tickling feeling, Also I don't know but I think I felt light-headed there for awhile. But no major sensations in my hands. Which bodyparts should I work on? Hands, Feet, Knees? Are those good to start with, Maybe doing this circular motion on each for 15min?

Also, Are you supposed to lean over to do the motion on your feet or do you have a ruler or something for that? [:P]