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I read somewhere(astral dynamics? Adventures out of body?) that you can't get back into the physical body because of Deep Sleep. They say to go back to the astral plains and explore until your body comes out of a deep sleep. I think you can set an alarm to go off and that jerks the body from a Deep Sleep.

Lol [] I would try to contact him again next time you travel.
Yeah that could have been another projector, but as soon as he couldn't scare you he gave up I guess.

Can't wait for my 2nd OBE, their so intresting.[]

Lmao, I think that was an Astral Projection, but I don't know if you killed that guy. An NDE is a Neer-Death-Expierence. I think he was talking about that. Well you must have been in a more subtle body because you just had a thought of harming him and boom! You see a beam of light go through his chest. You also had exit symptoms.

Just ask for forgiveness if your christan.

Anyone else know if he actually "killed" that guy?
He was an butt to you after all.[:O]

Lmao!!! PM me Selski!

lmao rofl...
Didn't you start to laugh half way through getting it on with the monkey? []

Oooffta...(im norweigen)

That doesn't sound good. I have been dealing with pain also. I injured my neck throwing up when I had the norwalk virus about 5 months ago(or that is the docs hypothsis). The pain is not bad, but what is helping me is going to a counsler and I am doing physical therapy.

And it does help alot to have a GOOD attitude about pain and healing.

I have clicking every time I move my jaw and swallow, could I be getting this TMJ? Doc said it was pressure in my ear.

quote:Originally posted by Frank



Sorry, but I couldn't resist a little chuckle at you losing your astral cherry.

Yours,
Frank

LOL! okay and another lol for you falling into that goofy little trap.[]

But it didn't scare you or anything atleast. Was it fun?

Great!

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Now keep trying to reproduce them!
Goodluck

Looks like I will be doing a "medical procedure to prevent prostate cancer" tonight [] Lmao

I agree jacklyn, people would just fall over and shrivle up if they didn't. And I realy don't believe your losing LARGE amounts of energy.

awe, to fun anyways....

Oh, thats no good! That's too bad you haven't had any luck.


You could always try that 90 day workbook you can print off from this site! Or try a Hemi-sync sound thing to help you. But if your doing the trace correct...then maybe you wouldn't need that.

Make sure you also have drive to push on and project. Make sure not to have to much drive though. I am very new, I have only been practicing about 2 months. You could try taking a class for a different perspective on it, thats what im doing. I read it helps to saterate yourself with the whole subject. Or if you haven't tryed finding people that like it also, try that. They can always help push you along.

I wish you luck!
c ya around

Oh, your probably fine. But can any one here confirm that 15 year olds can't use it?

Last night when I took the "trance elevator" down to OBE station I was hearing things too!Lmao... Not in the physical world(I think). []

I was in a full trance, maybe even deeper, and started to hear bursts of radio music and heard children playing in the distance!
At first I was startled but then started feeling comfy. The children playing and yelling was kinda soothing. I was in a trance for close to an hour I think.   []

I read on the Holosync® web site that kids 13 and under should not use it. What is the reason for 15 year olds?

Holosync® says that when your 13 and under your central nervous system is still developing.

Uh-oh, im 16 in september, can I still use it?

Is there any risks? Why can't a 15 year old use it?[?]

GREAT!!! THANK YOU!

This is awesome! Thank you so much! I am trying this out tomarrow!

Wow, sounds like a good idea.

I don't know if I can do it lmao, I can be very lazy.

Wow, that sounds fun. Lmao, and the dream about the wallrus sounds cool.[]

Thanks for replying Zarklon! Van- I will use the search feature. Actually Van, I did use the search button, but looks like I could use a different keyword.

So Zarklon, do you have any tips for astral projection? I can get into a full trance and I either get some vibes or nothing at all.

Hello. Why you have the urge to tinkle I have no clue. Except that if your drinking before hand then...DUH!!!lol[]

So when you twitch, is it physical? I sometimes get very small twitchs when I try to project(even when I sit sometimes I jerk here and there)

If your not physicaly jerking then that would be you transfering to your double. I think...