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Sumeria is not older than Hinduism, sorry, that's incorrect.  If they were that good, Sumerian religion would still be here.  
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Using black magic against someone without fair warning is sneaky and cowardly, it is the path of the weak who don't have the guts to confront someone head on.  

Usually even a curse is declared in the open.  Such a curse is considered a blessing, since it would force this person (usually a very highly arrogant, obnoxious person) to break the curse by prayer to higher powers which will allow him to purify himself.  Ofcourse it has to take noticeable affect for the person to do this.  But remember, others who can't stand you can curse you to try to teach you a lesson.  It's a slippery slope.  

Bad karma may not just stick to you, it might stick to your children, it is said that the sins of the father affect the lineage by seven generations.  I would suggest you take several deep breaths and think again.  

quote:Originally posted by Zarklon

I cant take my girlfriend's stepdad anymore.  He is a control freak that is controlling both my girlfriend and her mom in such a way that is intolerable to me any longer.  I do not care to go into detail but I'll say that whatever I manage to do to harm this basterd will be well deserverved.  What would be the best way to inflict some kind of negative action upon another person without the use of some kind of wierd concoction of oils or something.  I have 8 candles , some earplugs , and lots of meditation/OBE experience under my belt.  

I'm going for some type of illness/bodily harm.  I'm sure karmic law will hit me for whatever I'm going to do to him.. yet again , maybe it wont..  Does anyone have any idea where I should go to find some info on sending negative energy , chanting against someone , cursing someone etc.. whatever I need to do.. I want to get back at this basterd for all the hell he is causing me , my girlfriend , and her mom as well.  

I know this post might go un answered.. if so , I'll just have to do my best without any knowledge from the outside world. If you've seen my posts in the past , you'll know that this is a bit abnormal of me to post something like this.  Any help would be appreciated.

[Thank you for saying this. It is my point exactly through all of these threads. Thank You.]

Hi Tayesin,

You say you didn't do anything offensive, but you did, you told people who have no experience with meditation to not look to anything else to protect their loved ones and families.

It takes TIME to develop spiritual abilities, and different people are different and have differing levels of faith in such things.  And some times with these attacks, particularly when the one being attacked is your child, time doesn't seem to be one of the options that you have, as anyone with a child knows it takes time and energy to raise a child, and if he has a disability, it takes even more time and tremendous amount of emotion.

I said ONE of the weapons that should be in your arsenal is spiritual, I never said or implied that if one seeks extra help you're a spiritual loser.

I know you probably mean well and want to sincerely help people, but you should realize that different people are on different paths and different levels of spiritual attainment and until they are strong enough, they need help from other souls and perhaps instruments that can help.

quote:Originally posted by Tayesin

Kalratri,
Quote, "But do look into practicing some spiritual excercises regularly, you never know how powerful you might become by just regular practice of something as simple as meditation and focusing your awareness on your breath for half an hour everyday, if nothing else, it'll give you the focus to keep searching and give you the emotional strength to deal with the painful situation."

Thank you for saying this.  It is my point exactly through all of these threads.  Thank You.

Thankful,
I didn't belittle anybody, nor attack any one individual.

Quote,"you're so stupid I'm embarrased for you", appears no where in my post.  The little embarrased emoticon was there for my embarrasment at not understanding if the poster's were serious or just having a play around.

This may seem callous to you but, I don't care what Robert Bruce says about this.  I do not see Robert as the authority figure on the astral, as I have been venturing there since the mid 1970's too and I disagree with some of his concepts.  You can possibly bet that he has not yet come to uniting with his higher-self, so may still be venturing without the benefit of his highest awareness level.. which would account for the differences.

Quote, "But don't go calling me emotionally laden because I responded to your rudeness."

Where did I CALL YOU emotionally laden ?  What I said was this, "Emotionally laden responses get in the way of seeing what is there for you. And seeing clearly is most important in your situation Mira."  

Again, this is not a personal attack Thankful, only a sharing in honesty.  And we all know that the majority of humans perceive Complete Honesty as attack or similar. It is true isn't it Thankful that you did feel emotional responses to my original post here and allowed them to flow over into your response typing.  Nothing wrong with that, but, clarity comes from standing back and letting those emotions flow on through BEFORE taking action.  That way we are clear and direct.

When we have such responses to things it indicates that we have an issue to deal with.  And for those who wish to live completely honestly, we then recognize such and deal with it.  This is always followed by more clarity.

And, there are new ways to use with attacks.

Inguma,
It's okay if you were in a foul mood, and I am glad you spoke your mind on this....

Quote. "If you are right, then who are you to say what the reasons are? How can you tell that the reason was not to learn about the properties of iron, of running water, how negs are scum and we must learn to defend against evil, etc etc? Ultimately you dont, you're just making assumptions based on what you believe to be true."

I can say that there are generalised reasons, because I am clear enough to see and receive insight into some things, and, viewing from the bigger pictures in, provides much more insight than seeing from the little soul perspective most of us are still using.  

Umm, negs are scum ? In my experience Inguma, what are called 'negs' here are simply other beings who



use their portion of the Light/Energy for Darker purposes.  That makes them Beings who choose, it does not confer the human concept of Evil-ness upon them, it allows us to see that we are working inside a Duality zone where these things are played out for our ultimate benefit.

Sorry mate, no assumptions being made here, only real advice from experience, based on non-attachment to any Belief-system.  

Quote, "Your philosophy is practically unworkleable, and IMO, taken to an extreme we could sit here until we starve, and when we end up dead say "hey, thats the way it was supposed to be! I planned this before incarnating, so no worries - at least I know now the value of eating!". You dont need and of this fluff to learn from lifes experiences."

This philosophy, as you call it, works for many people I work with.  It does not mean or imply that everything is pre-destined.  That is a way too confined perception of this concept.  It's from the little soul perspective again.

What it means is this, We came here for Experience.  We choose the lives according to our needs/wants etc.  The planning out of these lives is done seriously when we are in our higher awareness levels and we MUST include all the millions of choices we wanted to have the options to make in every second of that life.  All people we interact with in life have been contracted to play certain roles for us and to provide certain experiences we wanted to have, as we have done for them.  In no way does Predestiny come into play because the amount of options we chose in the life itinery prevents it from becoming a reality.  The framework I spoke about is massive, and includes ALL the options we wanted to have.

And ultimately, we are not here to learn from experience... another little-soul perspective there.  We are here FOR the Experiences, that help us to Remember, not learn. It is true we already know all the answers as the huge and powerful souls we are, so we do not need to learn anything, only to remember what we already know in our highest awareness.

Quote, "The basis of your philosophy originated in the far east, from where it was taken, altered to taste, and mixed together with a load of other stuff in a big melting pot, with a huge dollop of channeling thrown in for good measure. The resulting dish was called "new age", and its a shame how many people swallow it whole without checking for unhealthy side effects."

I agree with most of this statement Inguma, with the exception of this 'philosophy of mine' being such.  My concepts are based on my experiences of Higher-Self and copious amounts of Astral realm and higher journeys over more than 25 years.  I explore and experience with no Beliefs to cloud my perceptions.  This is the way I was taught to be, to prepare and journey 'as if naked', meaning to have no expectations of what must be, should be or can be experienced.  And as such is also opposed to those standard belief-systems, even if some of them are similar to my own concepts.

Quote, "Anyway, one of the biggest proponents of this "your create your own reality 100%" idea was Jane Roberts....."

I actually disagree with that theory too.  In my experience to date I have found situations that do not abide by this concept.  For example, I do not beleive in Angels, yet this year I have been seeing and talking with an angel, Ariel.  So according to the theory, because I do not believe in Angels, they should not exist in my reality...YET, there is one!  This was more than enough proof for me to discard the whole theory that I have been mentally juggling with for a number of years because it didn't resonate with my own experiences.

Quote, "When I was 5 I did NOT create the evil that attached itself to me. I did not create the paralysis, the overwheling fear, the dread. Nor did I keep myself awake at night all week, hypnotised and unmoving and scared more than I can describe. Nor did I create the unending procession of shadows I saw walking through my room. I was innocent, completely innocent, and anyone who says otherwise is an.....is wrong."

No one here is saying you created those experiences Inguma, nor that you were less than innocent.  But what should be said is this,  What part did you (as the Soul you are)play in the reality of those events ?  It is a viable question that needs to be looked at.  As you know, nothing happens without us having some form of responsibility for it.  Never is anything totally one-sided, never are we a Victim unless we allow ourselves to be.  Everything works as a co-operative creationing that WE are a part of. So we do have some responsibility for what we experience in this life, because WE DID CHOOSE IT.

Quote, "And if it is all part of a grande plan, I honestly dont care, because then what I do is still a part of that plan, and I still have to do it."

Exactly!

Quote, "I am not arguing you cannot alter you reality, depending on the effectiveness of your magic."

Our reality can be altered within a second if we so chose.  And it is so because we did include many millions, if not billions of options and choices we wanted to have/experience.  But, if you have not chosen certain experiences for this life in your framework planning then you will not experience it.  

The things and concepts I write about are so very opposed to the standard stuff, and that is for a very good reason.  One of my tasks is to share what I have come to understand and remember about our true nature as Great Souls.  The information comes from directly experiencing my Self, after uniting with Higher-Self during an enlightenment event of a few years ago.  So, the perspectives I use are from the outside looking in and not from the human little soul perspective the rest of us are still operating in.

If we are to Awaken, then it is time to share the things that are from the awakened.  Time to move past the belief-systems that have kept us confined as little souls perceiving human existence, instead of perceiving as the Soul we are.  And nothing is unworkable until we experience it as such, otherwise it is only a belief.

Thanks Inguma for this opportunity to respond to you and try to express these new concepts in a way that more people can understand readily.  I hope I succeeded on that score.[]

Love Always.[]

PS.. here's that ancient Druid Maxim again...
"The Truth Against the World"

quote:Originally posted by thankful

Tayesin,
I still stand by my statement that you shouldn't belittle anybody. People would be able to accept things better if you come to them with an attitude of caring and not like "you're so stupid I'm embarrased for you".    
My response was in defense, not just of me and my daughter, but anyone here who is struggling.  You say these concepts are outdated, but sometimes they are all that anyone has until something else comes along.  Apparently Robert Bruce doesn't think they're outdated or he wouldn't give info on passing over running water and other methods of self defense.  I am on this site because I believe he is a man of integrity and I enjoy the postings of the people here so I can learn and maybe add two cents of my own.
I am open to learning whether from you or anybody else so I will check out your website and the forum threat you mentioned.  But don't go calling me emotionally laden because I responded to your rudeness. I was offended for me and others.  

Mira

Don't worry Mira,
As the brand "new" age hippie saying goes -- one too many OBE's makes Johnny into an airhead.

You do what you have to to help your child, I feel the same way since my nephew too is under attack, and I would do anything and everything to help him.  

I consider myself lucky that I was a practitioner of spiritual exercises quite early and am able to use some of it to help my nephew, but I understand the very simple concept that not everyone has a similar experience.  But do look into practicing some spiritual excercises regularly, you never know how powerful you might become by just regular practice of something as simple as meditation and focusing your awareness on your breath for half an hour everyday, if nothing else, it'll give you the focus to keep searching and give you the emotional strength to deal with the painful situation.

quote:Originally posted by Nay

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That's like saying I won't help someone if I see some attacker stabbing someone to death, because heck, too bad you didn't learn kung fu like I did.  And if I help today, heck another criminal might come and you still won't know how to deal with it, so I'll just leave a neg criminal to attack you.  It's silly logic, actually this is utter foolishness.

Are you talking about physically on the street you see someone doing this?  If this is the case, those are two different things.  I "think" what Ender was saying was people have to slay their own demons.  Let us do a what if... People come to these forums and ask for help, they recieve it, yet it won't go away.  That is when they need to figure it out, because it is obvious our advice isn't working, due to a lack of information or honesty, OR..they don't want to be done with their demons, they hold on to it.


What do you think a demon is?  What is reality but a projection from yourself?  So someone dying from a neg died of his  inner demon and someone killed by a criminal outside to you is a different situation? There is no inner, no outer.  You "send love waves from the heart chakra" types don't understand what you  are talking about -- you contradict yourself in logic and in the end help hurting others with misinformation or incomplete understanding.  Sorry if this sounds rude, but you really need a reality check.  

I'm dealing with witches who are attempting to kill their own little boy/sons NO MATTER HOW MUCH LOVE THE POOR BOY projects to the mother, so please don't tell me about demons and your ridiculous Barney the purple dinosaur philosophy in dealing with demonic forces and my "inner fear", you're darn right, I have fear for the little boy's life and future and that very fear is what is drives me,and I'm not some self righteous ignorant fool as to not admit it.

quote:Very good!  You know basic philosophy.  But do you REALLY KNOW philosophy?  So you are telling me that if you encounter a wild 1000 pound tiger in the jungle you will simply say, "hey 1000 pound tiger, you are only an illusion, be on your way oh great teacher"  and the tiger will just disappear?

Again theory is very different than reality, and reality is only an illusion for a master...and all your philosophizing will not alter forces, only practice and supreme inner understanding does that.

I'll be honest and say that your quote has a bit of sarcasm in it..[] and once again you bring up something (tiger) that really doesn't go with what is being said.  I've had plenty of dreams and projections where I encounter what you would call a tiger, and I embraced it only to have it not show up again.

quote:Better than that, I'll sing it the Barney song, " I love you, you love  me, we're a happy famileee....with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you ***smoooch***, won't you say you looooove meeeee tooooo." laaa, laaa, i'M AN AIR HEAD...LA, LA, LA...

Hehehehe..boy, I use to want to kill Barney, but my kids loved him, and what did Barney teach children?  To love one another and why in the world do people find that so offensive?  I'd sooo much rather have my kids thinking kind thoughts for another than trying to form a ki-ball to kill what they feel in their minds is out to get them.

quote:Yes, indeed tell that to the police force...heck if noone had fear, there would be 0 crime, and no police would be necessary. We would have a crime free society, why negs would just disappear...so simple.

Once again, you remind me of someone whom loves to hold on to that fear.  In my opinion, fear does not equal crime.  People do crimes because they have no morals, or conscience (sic) and are too lazy to get out there and live in society the way it was meant, thus taking from others when they have no right to.

quote:Yes, you can.  You can try helping a helpless child under attack, handicapped, you can help the elderly who have no idea how to meditate and you can help others who don't know what the heck is going on.  If everyone could help themselves, there wouldn't be a problem.  But the fact is not everyone can, so stop living in some la la land.

People choose to live in whatever land they want..some like peace others like conflict..just get in the right line, tis all.[]  People are not as helpless as we would like to think.  I'm not saying to NOT offer your help, but there comes a time when people have to walk their own path....alone.

quote:the real question is why are there so many air heads in this world who don't make any practical sense?

That comment was just rude, plain and simple.  I just love it when people have differences of opinions that don't jive with their own, then they start spouting out how stupid the other people are..very sad indeed.

quote:Not everyone suffers from a murderous satanic demon,  I ask myself all the time, why not me?  Why do I not get a real neg demon, like Satan in my karmic resume that I can learn from, am I karmicly challenged?

That just proves my point that you thrive on the dark side of things.[]
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P.S..I just had a heck of a time with all the quotes..LOL..sheesh, hope ya'll can make sense of this post. []

Nay

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

 who no longer sees helping others by slaying their psychic tormenter spirits as the main area to focus on. I have learned that we are the only ones who can help ourselves, and destroying a neg for someone isn't really helping them at all, just making room for another to take its place. It might buy them some time, but ultimately they are the only ones who can help themselves.

That's like saying I won't help someone if I see some attacker stabbing someone to death, because heck, too bad you didn't learn kung fu like I did.  And if I help today, heck another criminal might come and you still won't know how to deal with it, so I'll just leave a neg criminal to attack you.  It's silly logic, actually this is utter foolishness.

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Darkness, like light, is a part of every pe/rson. Both are products of duality, which is, of course, an illusion.

Very good!  You know basic philosophy.  But do you REALLY KNOW philosophy?  So you are telling me that if you encounter a wild 1000 pound tiger in the jungle you will simply say, "hey 1000 pound tiger, you are only an illusion, be on your way oh great teacher"  and the tiger will just disappear?

Again theory is very different than reality, and reality is only an illusion for a master...and all your philosophizing will not alter forces, only practice and supreme inner understanding does that.

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When an evil 'neg' comes at you, tell it you know what it is and why it is there. Honor it by thanking it for what it has taught you, and tell it that you have released it.

Better than that, I'll sing it the Barney song, " I love you, you love  me, we're a happy famileee....with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you ***smoooch***, won't you say you looooove meeeee tooooo." laaa, laaa, i'M AN AIR HEAD...LA, LA, LA...

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All evil stems from fear. Whether it stems from your fear, someone else's fear, or the collective fear of all people, that is where it stems from.

Yes, indeed tell that to the police force...heck if noone had fear, there would be 0 crime, and no police would be necessary. We would have a crime free society, why negs would just disappear...so simple.

quote: However, I know that I cannot help them unless they help themselves. I can only offer new perspectives.

Yes, you can.  You can try helping a helpless child under attack, handicapped, you can help the elderly who have no idea how to meditate and you can help others who don't know what the heck is going on.  If everyone could help themselves, there wouldn't be a problem.  But the fact is not everyone can, so stop living in some la la land.

quote:The real question, I suppose, is why do we as spiritual beings experience psychic attacks from others or from negs, demons, etc? Is it necessary that we have this experience? It seems that not everyone goes through it.

the real question is why are there so many air heads in this world who don't make any practical sense?  Not everyone suffers from a murderous satanic demon,  I ask myself all the time, why not me?  Why do I not get a real neg demon, like Satan in my karmic resume that I can learn from, am I karmicly challenged?




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Yeah, those nice and shiny German made hi tech steel blades made by Wustoff does not work, where as the crude and heavy steal of a khukri knife (carried by Gurkha warriors) does.

quote:Originally posted by Inguma

With respect to bracelets they should be broken (ie not full circle) so that you get resonance effects from them.

HHG's = cool []

Perhaps that's why horse shoes worked the best.  Well I got to measuring ,er," Witch Transmission Strength or" Neg Transmission Strength" using the number of horse shoes I needed to put on to stop the attacks... I needed 5-6.  Now I can't walk around with 5 horse shoes around my legs and arms now can I...[:I]

quote:Originally posted by daem0n

have you tried holy hand grenade ??
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html

I thought about a daisy cutter bomb right over the witch house...maybe if I tell the US government that I saw Osama hiding out there...hmm[]

Again if it's a minor attack steel bracelets ought to be enough, if stronger attacks are suspect,  iron bracelets made out of used horse shoes ought to be enough, try to make it a bit thick, you can make it for the ankles as well.  The level of iron you need to stop the neg attackers transmission should give you a fair assessment of the power of the attacks, so make several bracelets.  Sometimes I just get horseshoes and make him hold it.  BUT BE CAREFUL, too much iron can effect the heart  making you depressed and feel horrible, so do it very slowly for small periods of time and see the reaction and decrease the level of iron if you see the person cry or get depressed.

basically the iron interferes with the transmission of the attacker, and since spells/etc. are magnetic in nature the iron acts to withdraw  the spell.

Here's a sight that talks about the therapeutic effects of mri's on those who suffer bipolar disorder and who are not taking medication and also mentions smaller mri type instruments for therapy.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2004/01.22/01-depression.html.  I'll post the entire article in the news section of this forum and researchers at Harvard Medical school are working on something called transcranial magnetic stimulation, or TMS.  The same site talks about that too.

quote:Originally posted by EOL007

Interesting article

Scholars Who Believe in the False History of India Are A Dying Breed by Stephen Knapp

See: -

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/scholars_of_false_history_of_india_are_a_dying_breed.htm


Stephen


P.S. A warning from history: World War II fatalities were circa 61 Million of our fellow human beings!

interesting read, but I looked into the other stuff Knapp wrote and his 'picture' evidence, some of it seems pretty 'hoaky'.  I really don't like archeological evidence, there seems to be too much tampering with that sort of thing and too much deep reading into pictures.  Now if someone found krishna pictures in America, would one say that All of America were once krishna worshippers?

Scriptural evidence, written records, stuff that's more a part of the cultural tradition is much harder to tamper with, and seems stronger for me.  I was actually surprised myself when I read the Tacitus Germania and that 'man' occurs as the word in All of germanic/nordic languages for human, there were certain religous practices which I looked into that seemed similar.

then I read further into other histories and how other major civilization came about, Manu is also known as the emperor of heaven -- head of the "heavenly council" of creators or 'masters of the universe' and makers of kings and emperors of the earth as well.  he is called a hero, the first one to initiate sacrifice.

part 2;

We eventually discovered that indeed it was a female lineage of witches atleast 3 generations worth that we know.  Of course noone could believe it --- sometimes it's still hard to believe.  All the men near or around them were either dead or slowly going crazy, including their sons.  As soon as the younger witch returned to India, three men that they hated and my brother heard named, died, all of them died with the same cause, heart failure.

But because they killed their own sons and brothers, we knew that they would certainly not spare my 5 year old nephew, they had no love and any fool who would say that love can stop powerful demonic natured witches and warlocks has really not locked horns with these kinds of people.  I agree with Robert Bruce, these people have the consciousness the size of pin pricks, pin pricks would actually be a step up.  The grandmother of the boy who was attending the funerals of one the men she murdered, pronounced openly in the funeral that she put a curse on the boy, that no matter how much we try to make the boy speak, he will not.

The difference between magical attacks and regular neg attacks would be that in the magical attacks the witch/wizard has trained from birth and knows exactly how to train themselves quickly to penetrate any new defenses, including shields.  You might overpower them several times, BUT THEY COME RIGHT BACK AFTER STRENGTHENING. THIS iS What they do! This is their specialty, they have nothing better to do with their time.

Now my nephew is suffering terribly, most of the time they are attacking or putting on spells he barely has any sense.  At the beach he would all of sudden just start eating sand and do other "crazy" things, laughing like crazy for long periods of time, shaking his right hand, just looking at his hands for several minutes run around in circles as if driven by some motor, without warning he would climb up dangerously high places without having any sense of what might happen if fell, just as the witches want.

He takes the tell tale in/out breath sound which comes from the chest area and then he can't even construct a sentence, something he succeeds in doing when we successfully clear out his system using mantras, but they continue with their attacks and the situation returns.  Recently we were able to get three negs out of him, but that leaves atleast 7 left, if the marks on his legs and hips are any indication of neg penetration, all though their attacks are weaker it is still strong enough to badly effect him.

At this point we don't know how much of his ADD and Autism like symptoms are due to "natural causes" and the fact that the witch mother didn't want him to speak so that he wouldn't reveal her practices, and how much of it is due to their incessant and willful attacks since his infancy.

(to be continued)

A Hindu mystic, Swami Vivekananda, said:

     "In the same way that certain religions in the world call a man who does not believe in a God existing outside his person an atheist, we, for our part, say that an atheist is a man who does not believe in himself. Not believing in the splendour of ones own soul, that's what we call atheism."



I guess it really depends on which religious background you come from, but everyone has their "beef" about whatever their religion is sometime, you wouldn't be human if you didn't question the religion you were born into.  Sometimes only after you reject and question your system and search else where is when you either reject the system or keep the tradition refining your own understanding without using other people's definition:

The eastern systems are heavily energy/philosophical/mystical based systems:

In Hinduism, everything is the self, so praying to the Gods means praying to your higher self -- there is no other, yourself is God, God is you.
In Buddhism, everything is sunyata, finally going to a state of beyond thingness and nothingness, there is no separate God defined but rather sages  you call upon to guide you.
In Taoism you follow the way of the force which is the Tao which is the union of masculine and feminine energies.

The western Systems are heavily God as separate from self based systems and very organized since they had singular founders who put forth certain rituals that must be followed.  Although each has a mystical tradition that mystical tradition never allowed one to say that one is God,    Judaism never says "I am Yahweh"
                   Christianity never says "I am the Christ"
                   Muslims never say " I am Allah"
That would be considered blasphemy.

Some researchers are planning to  make small scale versions of the MRI for healing therapy as they've already done for brain scans, for obvious reasons (I don't think you need to have 4X the earth's magnetic field to destroy misaligned magnetic fields and negs unless you're dealing with some fantastically powerful poltergiest(sp?))

Ofcourse, this might not help in viewing them...I mean do we really need 2 teslas to see stuff?  Of course the MRI technology itself is undergoing refinement.

Nita is terrific!

She's helping me with my nephew, she also knows tons about herbal magic, some of the herb material which I just recieved and will be trying stuff soon, will post all the successes!

I think I used to be somewhat that way, during a particularly distressing time in my life, I was resenting existence and wanting enough power to get my own way.  But I think when I realized what true evil is (particularly after witch mother decided to attack her baby son to get even), i.e., attacking defenseless people, innocent children, hurting those who can't protect themselves, being sneaky and devious and constantly lying, I realized that I would not stand in the center and be this bitter embodied spirit resenting existence because I didn't ask for it.  I knew then to oppose evil whenever I encountered it.

Watch yourself, you never know when a little evil might lead you to greater evil.

Sometimes circumstances pushes you to one side or the other.

quote:Originally posted by Inguma

HHmm well perhaps, but it is fairly standard dark magic (& demonic) procedure to reverse sacred symbols/names to produce their evil opposite. The upturned pentagram is the best know, with the base world presiding over the spiritual. Also upturned christian crosses - and speaking of kabbalah, isn't the same done to names of the spheres to produce their klippotic opposites? (not sure about that, anyone care to correct me?).
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Rob

[}:)]one should invoke the devil doing the headstand! The devil REALLY gets excited when he finds people upside down instead of the USUAL right side up.[:X]


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quote:Originally posted by aryanknight666

I know, I was only kidding, just taking a jab at the ivory skinned/blue eyed/blonde haired aryan appearance...
anyway I'm not an aryan imposter my name is so because I was interested in aryanism/nationalist socialism/wagner/aryan supremacy (I fit the criteria of an aryan anyway).
Anyway are you aryan? the northern european sort or the vedic sort?

i'm the Vedic sort, and the chinese are the chinese sort.  only those who trace their spiritual ancestry to Manu, the presiding emperor of heaven (chinese son was Huang di), first emperor of earth, are Aryans. Manu divided the earth and gave his sons rulership over different parts of the earth to rule according to the Dharma, the Way of the force. Those who trace their ancestry to others are not Aryans and were later creations. The definition is closed.

How can anyone be attracted to evil?  I don't get it.

I mean let's really look at evil. How much fun could it be to hurt babies, animals, perform really sick sexually deviant acts (outside and inside the species), get diseases, give diseases, make people into soap (Hitler).

There's also the occasional possessed dictator causing massive holocausts against defenseless people, and that includes killing little babies.

I mean, sheesh!  How fun can it be?  Evil people should really think about it.



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I cant remember which polarity is supposed to be best for healing, will have to check my books when back around my usual home. But with respect to how various parts of the body are said to be positive or negative (eg hermetics, maybe eastern chi systems?) what I now have to decide is whether to apply + to +, or - to +. Perhaps I will test both.
Hey, this could be fruitful!

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according to some, it's the north side which heals, whereas the south side can  cause [] overgrowth atleast for cancer.  But then again certain organ systems might require this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40979-2003Sep20

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MRI medical scanners don't so much detect magnetic fields, they are utilised as part of the process to detect chemical processes at the atomic level. The fields used for human examinations can be up to 2 tesla, 4 times that of the earths magnetic field. This would be likely to counter any local fields for the duration of the scan.
Not withstanding, I have also read from other sources that the effects of meditative states on brain activity have been viewed with MRI and other medical diagnostic equipment and it points to some interesting explorations ahead.

--Actually, the MRI might do 2 things, 1) it might just push the neg out permanently.
2)it's not possible that the MRI disables ALL magnetic activity in the body, if it did, it would kill you.  I'm thinking if the energy movement can be detected during meditative states than non meditative energy movements can also be detected.

If the neg tries to integrate into your field and starts swishing stuff around,  theoretically it should be detected.



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Would you be so irresponsible as to  tell someone shot on the arm to not go to the hospital but see a white light that heals his wounds and bleed to death if it does not work?..you should really be more responsible in your advice.  

Now this person will think that if he seeks help, he is weak!

Someone is suffering, literally on the streets because of these attacks and he needs some  answers and alternatives on where he could get help if needed and what he can do to lessen/stop the effects of the attacks, and you in extremely bad taste have turned this into an ego competition.

Try whatever you do with dedication and with complete faith and you should know that if you're not yet strong enough, there is help and support out there as well as on this forum.  

So don't let some ignorant fool  stop you from seeking help especially if this has taken a severe mental/physical toll on your friend to the point where she is unable to function.  You must accurately judge yourself and your friend's situation and do what you can accordingly and make this judgement responsibly.    

This is no ego competition, and true spirituality has no place for ego.

Try whatever you can and what will work for you will work for you. But remember in order for something to work you have to really practice  AND THAT TAKES TIME and it will be upto you to decide how much time you can dedicate to this before you seek help. Just don't give up!

Hopefully this info helps with the little experience that I have with negs:

Basically these people manipulate your energy by implanting their own energy into you which will act like a receiver and then controlling it with their mind which  acts as a transmitter.  

1) I'm assuming you have a christian background, run to one of the traditionally built churches (catholic churches are generally best).  A REAL church made of solid stone ought to be built with guardian energies at the 4 corners.     I found respite in a well built stone catholic church when I felt needles in my eye and severe abdominal attacks by negs while I was walking.

The priest might be able to help or allow her to stay there if the church energy helps her.

Martial arts temples also are powerful anti-neg protection areas, but they might not allow you to stay there.

2) find a qi gong energy healer/acupuncurist. I'm in new york city.
I have heard there are several grandmasters in san francisco area that have similar healing abilities, so you might look into that.

3) Eat and be healthy, DO NOT FAST!  Exercise alone has been able to remove a neg reciever in my brother's case.

4) have a fighting spirit and don't give up.  Negative thinking will get you no where.

5) you must be familiar with mantras and meditation, really, the best thing to do is try to ignore him, mantras to have been able to remove neg recievers in the body.  The more you think about this person doing things to you, the more power you give this person over you.  

6)Think about God and only God.  Think of this as a test of your faith, ignore that other idiot.

7) energy can't be depleted, created or destroyed.  You must remove this doubt from your friends mind and remind her that others too have suffered severely with neg attacks, but they have never given up.  The force of her spirit can never be depleted or weakened.  Get ANGRY NOT SAD and FEARFUL!

find family support, what's that girl doing alone?  Find church goers find someone AND DON"T FALL FOR ANOTHER CULT.  GO TO A NORMAL PRAYER PLACE and find support.

well, ahem.  There are so many people who claim that they have attained Nirvana/moksha...so many coming from India, that I thought I should make a suggestion.

If you really want to test any of these claims, do something to that person that ought to hurt like crazy any ordinary person...if he escapes everytime or doesn't even wince and not one drop of blood falls, than you know this person is for real, otherwise this so called "guru" is just crazy trying to make money and probably doesn't have a clue as to what attaining Nirvana is.  

Another clue as to THE REAL DEAL, is if he's the picture of health, strong, good skin/hair, strong shiny eyes,etc. That's also a sign of someone who knows energy.  The person should not have lose aging skin, look horrible.  IN FACT, ALL sages who have attained anything were NOT ugly or unhealthy looking but were in fact attractive.  True nirvana destroys all imperfections of the body and soul.

Ofcourse, if the guy is for real, then he might curse you and you get a horrible neg infestation.
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