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#51
I wonder, has anyone here charged their eyes, and if so, were there any effects?

Also, I can blurr my vision at will, objects get very blurry. My relaxed sight is 20/20, if not better. What percentage of the population can do this, and what else can I do with this trait and what else can I train it to do?

Thanx-
#52
It's not so much about being in the store, I just happen to be there. Much like other "scream" times the environment is totally different, I forget what those others were, but I know that this isn't so much a symbolism dream rather than a conveinence of visualization.

I do however have plans that are on hold for what I want to do so I can take care of a few things that I want and need to do. And I have come across some hurdles in trying to accomplish these goals.

I wasn't focusing on any particular item, I wasn't even sure what was on the endshelves, but it sort of faded and blurred as the image of it got larger and the arguing got louder.

I'm not sure if the underlying issue is entirely focus or concentration, it feels like something else different too. Just seeing if anyone else here has had a similar experience.

Thanx for the input.
#53
A few times recently, within the past several months, I been having somewhat lucid dreams that I seem to have a decent level of awareness more so than regular dreaming for me.

Everytime, I seem to focus on an item, or just a part of something in general, fall into focus on that object or that general direction. Then that focus intensifies much like a volume control being turned way up, then a quick blackness and finnally I wake up with the urge to scream. The strange thing is I feel no fear or I'm not scared at all. More like a little embarrased if someone heard me scream, well if I did. I generally have a chance to cover my mouth before I let one out.

The last dream I had this happening was me standing in a store in the middle of the isle and seeing things in the first person. I note that there are a some people standing around like they are shopping but I pay no specific attention to them. I hear regular store sounds along with someone arguing with someone else pretty loudly in the background, Though it doesnt seem to come from any of the other "shoppers". I try to listen closer to figure out what they are yelling about and then I find myself starring at the end of one isle and then the arguing gets much louder and louder then I blank out for what seems like a split second then wake up with the impression that someone is standing over me about to hit me with something on the head and then I get the urge to scream. A little gets out but no one else seemed to hear it. Again after all that I'm not scared or fearfull. It all feels like an automatic reaction when it happens with no thinking at all.

Anyone have ANY Idea on whats happening and what I should do about it? Or at least anyone else experience that too?

Thanx-
#54
the last 2 times I astral projected I started to call out to others and sure enough one materialised and I reached my "arm" out and grab hold of the other entities arm. It appeared to be an older woman in a dark blue dress with flowers on it and we began talking but I only really remember her saying that I have reached "3/5" of my growth or something like that. Then I met another entity that seemed to be in the other room and we talked for a minute about something. I think it was me asking him if I can increase my energy and I could try to give him something in return. He said what, then I said I'm not sure. Then he stirred something in a bottle, told me to put my hand out, then he poured out a small amount of an glowing orange looking particle and told me to toss it away from us. It fragmented as I tossed it and faded away as the particles fell down. Then I looked to my hand and seen a small ?onk with a green loop and a flowered "T" for the base of it. It appeared to be small and was on the tip of my finger. Not sure how to take that one. And thats all I remember from that one.

The second time was less eventfull, I called out several times, didn't get a response. I had trouble keeping control of my movements and I think I was forcing my visualization to see things that I wanted. Then it seemed to turn into a dreamlike state as I lost focus and the ability to know that I was losing focus and I went back to unconsiousness, then woke up.

Both times I wasn't sure if I were dreaming or if I was in fact in contact with other entites and then I slipped into the dreamstate continuing on the "expeirence". Maybe I'm not at that level yet where I can tell either way.

Anyone else been through that? And is there a way to next time confirm what I see and hear to be a real interaction with other beings or am I just talking to other parts of myself. All comments welcome.
#55
I was wondering, do electromagnetic feilds effect entities big and small? I only ask this because I've heard tales of people picking up radio stations while OBE'ing be it Astral, or real time OBE. I figure if someone on the astral can sense EM waves, can other entities as well? Maybe some are really sensitive to the powerfull broadcasts and have fled this realm, much like a person fleeing a loud and constant noise.

Any truth to this?

Thanx-
#56
I have been consciously astral projecting for the past 2 or so years, averaging 1-2 per week, but lately the

numbers have been dropping off. The reason may lie in that I'm a little more stressed out with getting my new

business going, finding a part-time job to pay bills until that time, and just trying to get by without work.

Needless to say, stress can and will interfere with obe'ing. but I have been lucky within the past few weeks to

find myself floating around my room then gently getting pulled back into my body then ending up either a

dream, or just unconscious. Shcweet :)

I don't really have a technique for obe'ing, I just go to sleep, and if the conditions are right, I wake up to a

degree, feel light, and let go. I'm gonna try to get to the point to where I can astral project due to a meditative

state.

Anyhoo, For the real story, and it is quite REAL. I was laying on my bed one night when I woke up enough to

realize my dad was getting home from work. I heard the keys start to rattle the door. I was awake, clear and

conscious. My dad turned on the light in the hallway to get upstairs, but he usually takes his shoes off then,

and then heads upstairs.

As soon as the light was on, I turned my head towards my door and noticed my vision was cloudy but clear. As

I focused on the door I noticed a dark mass start to take focus and swirl into form a shadow "Figure" that

resembled a silouette of someone riding a camel with the rider's head vibrating to the left and right like crazy.

Though I have heard (Cause of shows like Coast To Coast AM) that people have came into contact with shadow

people and for the most part, people are suddenly scared when that happens. During this however, I wasn't

scared one bit. I didn't sense any "evil" from the entity. It was more like, "Whoa and Wow" put together is all

that I felt at the time. Just sheer wonder.

But I knew it was there nonetheless. It walked into my room, started to walk past me, then stopped. It noticed

me noticing it, and we "starred" for a few seconds. Then it continued through the room past me and I assume

through the wall. I tried to look up and follow it but I was trying to control my paralyzed body and when I moved

it, the cloudiness went away and that's when my dad started walking upstairs at that moment and I went back

to sleep.

A few nights later something similar occurred. I woke up to a degree, finding myself in a conversation with

someone else, but no one else was home. I was telling the same story to that "person" that I just told here. He

(It had a male voice) answered back, "yea" and "Uh-huh" whenever I would pause. So I got to the end of the

story, and that's when I heard footsteps in the room heading my direction. This got my attention, but didn't

freak me out.

When the footsteps stopped, I looked up. I saw a tanned male figure, with color and vibrance, But I couldn't

look up enough to see his face. And Like before, everything looked cloudy but clear, just not in focus. I noticed

he had a huge decorated necklace decorated with golden bits and jewels that went down and around his chest.
As my body lay there he was adjusting certain areas on my body like a scientist would adjust knobs on a

control panel. My guess he was aligning my chakras. With me and my constant amateur obe'ing, I guess I

need help keeping my chakras aligned. I'm such a hack :)

So, For some reason, I wanted to see if this person was really there, so I tried to move my leg. I eventually

did, and I moved it up and over and through the entity. Of course I didn't feel anything since the entity wasn't

physical, but I didn't have the sense to realize it at the time. As I moved my leg towards the entity, it started to

dim and blob out, just before it disappeared the entity almost made face/eye contact with me. then it was gone.

I ended up going back to sleep.

A few months later, It dawned on me to see what exactly had visited me those nights. So I popped on the

internet and found a "Site of demons" Turns out, the creature that had visited me was the most obedient to

Lucifer and has 200 legion of demon under his command. The link to the entity description is below...

http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/paimon.asp

And sure enough the outling of the creature I saw that night looked exactly like the image on that site. Please

note, I have never EVER seen that image, or it's likeness before in life, or dream. So no need to go there.

Again, I'm not sure if definition of this entity is a fair one here. Man has a way of slanting stories over time and

making the unknown "dark and evil" I dunno. But I keep looking back to what happened that night knowing I

didn't detect one bit of hostility from that entity, But I still respect his power, and his person, and hope to meet

him again soon, perhaps he will want to talk with a lowly mortal such as myself.

It was long, But I hope it was worth it. Anyone else come in contact with such powerful beings?

Thanx-
#57
My guess is to call out to that entity by name when you have successfully astral projected and you are aware of whats happening to you. Then don't try to speak with your voice, but instead, "Think" outloud the name, and if that entity is in the mood, then the entity may drop by.

Couldn't hurt to try...
#58
When it comes to meeting, or seeing entities on the astral, a question comes to mind. But before I ask, I know that at the time when I seen an entity that I was fully consious and aware of what was going on. Though I have never thought about the entity I saw, or seen the likeness of it, I still wonder-

Are these entities real? As to say, are they real to themselves as we are real to ourselves. Independant entities doing there own thing with their own agenda doing that agenda regardless of anyone witnessing it or not?

I understand that "Real" or "Reality" can be subjective and seen from many points, but when I mean real- I meant what I said in the above paragraph.

Perhaps I need more exposure to these entities to know that they are their own "people" and it doesnt matter to them if I beilive if they exist or not, and they do their own thing regardless.

If I were in this reality for a few minutes, then went elsewhere, I would probably doubt the existance of this reality because I'm not exposed to it 24/7. Apparently I need to see something constantly and have it effect me in some way to know that it is there.

But if in fact they are their own people with their own agendas and they are entities from the fabled legends, Then I can't wait to verify it myself. Maybe the entity I saw will comeback and prove it to me one way or the other.
#59
Well, I didn't know it was a "demon" until I told this to a wiccan friend who I met on an IRC channel several years back. I figured she'd be the best bet on finding out what this entity was. But before I did that, I went to a wiccan chat, told the story, and I got to talking to another witch who insisted it was the Shax, not Paimon. He insisted it a lot it was. But then I told the story to my other wiccan friend and she said he didn't know what he was talking about.

That website has the image of the "Shax" and that outline silouete of what I saw didn't look like the shax.

As far as finding this site, I just searched yahoo.com and seen another astral site, which led to another, then led to this using their forums to find out about this place.

I just wanted to find a site that has a lot of people interested in the subject to better my chances of comming across someone who knew what I was talking about.

As far as that demon list website is concerned. The first guy I talked to, the one who says I seen the shax, gave me the link to that site, And my friend on IRC checked it out for "corruptability" and said it was clean. I'm sure there are many out there who would try to use an experience like this to confuse and covert to the ways of negitivity. Having the ability to disern true intentions are crucial in situations like these. Hear everything, Trust no one until it can be verified either way.

If you need to ask about anything else, feel free. Very little can ever offend me.