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This is an AP forum. Why doesn't someone who is an advanced practitioner simply contact Frank. Would that make too much sense?

Advanced practitioner? LOL, where?

If I had to guess, I'd say the 2 most likely possibilities in the mystery of Frank are:

A- he died, or
B- he used the money for something he was not supposed to use it for

There is no way he has been sick all of this time and could not have at least posted 1 message to these boards- not unless he was in a coma or something. Maybe he used the money for medical bills? I dunno. Maybe he had debts? :question:

It starts with the physical stimulation of your body. You feel the energy that that leaves, and you build on it.
Eventually, if you keep working at it, you will very clearly feel a strong field of energy surrounding you.

You should keep on doing energy work until you achieve whatever goal it is that you set-out to achieve; or at least until you find some other method that you feel more comfortable with.

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Do you know what NEW is? It is not about visualization. It's about tactile stimulation.

I like the idea of numbers and words. Yeah, it'd be really tricky, but that's a good thing- that's just a personal opinion though; we should all try what we're most comfortable with.
I have to say though, the more I advance, the more I have a kind of "no big deal" attitude towards proof. I can't provide proof yet, but I'm certain it can be done, and I'm certain that I will be able to do it in time, so it's not that big of a deal. The only thing that would really motivate me to show proof is basically to provide a service to others- to show people like ECCO and data that there really is something more to this; something more than their imaginations or dreams. I don't really care about those who are hard-core skeptics though. They can go on not believing into infinity for all I care- they'll wake-up in time; even if it's not for a few millennia. I'm concerned more with the open-minded skeptic.

P.S. cute smilies Sarah. =)

Wolf Thor Emerald

Cool name actually!

Who are the greys? What are You talking about., Alien entities thats one heck of a tall tail. please explain

Do a google search.
Aliens are a tall tails? But "shadow people" and projecting to other dimensions aren't?

Thanks , i also noticed that my PMS DO go through.

Do they show up in your sentbox?

Thanks a lot for posting this Keith. I missed the show when it first aired.

The first book is called, "The Biology of Transcendence" by Joseph Chilton Pearce.  He is also the author of the book, "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg".  You may be able to get it online from the publisher if you go to http://www.innertraditions.com, but I picked it up at Chapters in Canada.  
Essentially, this book shows you how the human spirit is intricately linked with our biology.  The most interesting idea in it is about the development of the frontal lobes as structures where we can operate separate from our reality-based perceptions, much like we see "enlightened people" doing.  The book blew me away because it is so full of comparisons to the words of Jesus (Pearce uses him as a model throughout as the ideal enlightened being) and the biological evidence that has emerged recently.

Graeme

I was just thinking about this subject actually. The typical astral projector (even the very experienced ones) seem to have major difficulties when it comes to integrating their expanded knowledge into the "real world". For instance, you may be able to project, and just with your thoughts, you might be able to make objects appear out of thin air. But can you do such a thing in the physical world? I believe the problem here is that the "circuitry" of the physical body has not yet become appropriately hard-wired in order to function at such a level. This, I also believe is where problems with reality fluctuations come into play- if you disconnect from your physical self, this is symbolic of disconnecting from the physical world. But what if you merged both aspects of yourself- the physical and the mental (or spiritual, whatever you choose to call it)?
Isn't that what every great spiritual master has done? Including Jesus?

I wasn't really singling you out Tom. Sorry if you thought I was. When you say "every single OBE author in the world"... you mean, you know them all? And have read all of their works?
But more importantly, the problem I see is that the typical projector, in order to project, must first enter an altered mental state; either that or they have to in some way make a mental jump. But is that the only way to project? Or is that simply the common way?
Limitations are what we're concerning ourselves with here. And I'm convinced that every limitation can be overcome... simply that, nothing more.

No worries, didn't mean to come across touchy. But it is an irritating factor that these "reality fluctuations" and categorical distinctions have led me astray for a long time in an understanding of OBEs.

Yes, I think  read them all. Pretty much, up until people like Yram, and books that are hard to come by.

It is correct that the RTZ can be experienced without "reality fluctuations", but all I am saying is simply that it is almost like forcing the OBE state within a a certain regime, while a lot of interesting information can come in that would go unnoticed otherwise by opening oneself up to these fluctuations.

I think what is issue here not much the reality of RTZ projections in terms of "proof", but the wider reality in which they occur.

OK, I can deal with that. I just think the problem here is one of clarity. Like in science, you know more, you evlove, you do better, you do the things that you once thought to be impossible (or improbable)... and that's the game of life, and the story of humanity.

...or simply atypical due to a lack of mastery... which is what I believe.

True, up to a certain point you can qualify such experiences as such.

In my experience, it gets to be harder to maintain that position over time.

Even very experienced RTZ projectors go to great lengths to ensure RTZ projections as an exact replication of the physical like by for example suggesting RTZ projections away from cities and populated areas, as well as laboratory conditions to be conducted in large warehouses and so forth to avoid passing through through walls and windows and anything else contributing to  "reality fluctuations".

So the lack of mastery you attribute to me seems to apply to every known OBE author in the world.

Perhaps then, this is not due to "mastery", but other factors entirely, as mentioned earlier.

I wasn't really singling you out Tom. Sorry if you thought I was.
When you say "every single OBE author in the world"... you mean, you know them all? And have read all of their works?
But more importantly, the problem I see is that the typical projector, in order to project, must first enter an altered mental state; either that or they have to in some way make a mental jump. But is that the only way to project? Or is that simply the common way?
Limitations are what we're concerning ourselves with here. And I'm convinced that every limitation can be overcome... simply that, nothing more.

This may be natural to the OBE state, and experiencing the RTZ without "reality fluctuations" may be the unnatural phenonomenon.

...or simply atypical due to a lack of mastery... which is what I believe.

Practicing every day makes knowing what to do and what not to do a more streamlined process.

Nostic, you'll be the first one I'll try to visit.

See u in teh astral then.  

The only thing I can ever recall hearing about "shadow people" is from the book "The Other Sky". It's a book basically about the extra-terrestrial encounters of 2 experiencers. In one of David's experiences, he was instructed by the ET's on how to open a portal in which thousands of these shadow people came flying out. He was scared at first obviously, but as it turns out, the shadow people were actually a positive thing.  

Here is a quote from the book:
"I still didn't have a clue as to the shadow beings' purpose; that is, until I eventually moved to Michigan many years later and met Landi (The other author of the book). She had also encountered the shadow beings. It was revealed to us that they were also called "sweepers", their main purpose being to sweep the planet and people of negativity and lower energy residuals. It was also revealed to us that the more negativity the shadow beings absorb, the darker they appear, until they are "recycled" and sent out again. Most astounding of all was the insight that we, and not the Grey's or any other non-terrestrials, had created them! They are a product of humankind, sent to help balance our world".

That's all I know. Take from it what you will.  
There may be different kinds of shadow people... I dunno.

I'm going to go pioneering.

Instead of communicating with the rest of you about AP through this forum, I'm going to do it within the astral proper.

My advancements have been slow, I believe, because of attempts to assign words to the experience (i.e., I do not pursue methods of phasing that do not advance our abilities to linguistically describe the traversal). The goal has always been to help the astral become available to others. But if the astral is really what we build it up to be, then this forum must become archaic.

I'll be posting here less, given that I'll already be communicating with you elsewhere.

See you.

With a bit more detail, can you tell us what brought you to this decision Telos?

It's very interesting to me how much attention this date gets. I mean, it has been done to death, and still the controversy persists- from the people who believe, the people who don't believe, and it seems everyone else in between. I'm extremely curious as to weather anything of any great significance actually happens. LOL, at this point though, wouldn't it be kind of disappointing for January 1, 2013 to come, and realize, wait a minute... nothing exciting happened. I mean, with all of this build-up?  

Cure? It's a blessing. If you could slow down your heart and breath enough, you'd float right out of your body. Saturate your body with energy, and the process becomes easier, because your physical system then becomes less demanding, enabling a natural shift in consciousness.
I take it you haven't really looked into yoga?
This is the kind of thing I'm working on now.

One of my goals is to one day start a school/orphanage that'll help kids develop their psychic ability.

As for the question at hand, I have no idea.  

Dude, I would REALLY love to do this, but at this time, I'm simply not prepared. All in time though... all in time. When I can do this accurately, believe me, I will make it known so we can run some experiments.

I think that old thread died because no one here is yet at a level that'll give them very accurate results, consistently.
It's good though that some are trying to develop their skills with the Astral Pulse Island project.

I think the important thing for "the masses" is practicality. Once a good number of people like those of us on these forums can show clear-cut, practical benefits form our work, I think that's when the world at large will catch on. As for now, AP can at best be considered something equivalent to having a vivid imagination.
When I say "practical benefits", I mean things like instant thought manifestation, levitation (of self and separate objects), immortality, 100% accurate (or close) remote viewing capabilities, superpowers etc. If only a small number of us can accomplish these things, they can (and will) definitely be written off as hoaxes. But if you have the numbers, the world can only remain asleep but for so long.

Perhaps this is the right time.

I agree. I think 100% accurate provable results are not only possible, but also very much needed. I don't think we should rest until this is achieved.
Damnit, the work is so painstaking though. Right now, I think I have touched upon the very basics of remote vision. If I look at my computer screen for instance, I can definitely see it move. I can make it magnify/shrink and even ripple, but only on a subtle level. With this I think I understand the very (very) basics of moving my vision beyond what only my physical eyes can see. And objectively accurate results are what I'm after.

Your questions are valid Basajaun. But the only thing I can say to you is that if you're really interested in the subject, read as much about it as you possibly can. As you gain more outside knowledge, you will probably feel the desire to experience the things you've read about. Being unique individuals, different people are going to do better with different techniques. For me, Robert Bruces book Astral Dynamics, I'd say is perhaps the 2nd most influential book that I've ever read. The very day that I started using the NEW technique, I knew that I had stumbled onto something big. It was like a light had been flipped on in a previously dark room. It was like this book was destined to be in my life. Ever since then, I've had a clear understanding of the path I've needed to take.

Even still, Astral Dynamics represents only a piece of the puzzle. Other books have also helped me a great deal in piecing it all together. So read as much as you can. Pick-up books that you feel drawn to- let your intuition guide you. Then practice whatever techniques that you feel comfortable with. But be warned, it will often take a lot of diligence and persistence in order to get clear and definite results.

Honestly Frank, I think it's only the rare person who's going to get far by just letting it all come to them. The human mind I think has become far too logical and structured to so easily make such a great jump into the seemingly illogical. This is the usefulness of techniques- they give you a step-by-step process to follow. I do agree however that it is important not to get too attached to techniques.

Often times you'll hear people say that you shouldn't really try, and the more you try, the further away from your goal that you'll get. But I say you should try, and try, and try, until you no longer have to try... then you just do. It's like when you're a baby and you can't walk yet. At first, it takes a great effort. But now that you're an adult, you don't even think about walking, you just do it. It is important however that you be wary; usually when you try, you will tense-up. It's this tension that can be a major problem. If you're trying, always be aware of the tension in your body and then relax it. That tension will sneak-up on you time after time after time, so it takes a great deal of practice to get away from it.

But I think the technique of not trying will only work for a select few people. And believe me, the mind is so cunning that it will turn not trying into an effort. So instead of just trying and admitting it, now you're trying not to try, and deluding yourself into thinking that you're not trying anything- in other words, you're just being false. Most human minds will need structure in order to progress. They're at point "A", and they want to get to point "B". Now here you come along and say, sir (or miss), don't you know that you're already at the place that you want to go, and in fact, you really don't have to go anywhere in order to get there? You're there already... so just be there. For most people this is simply not going to compute. Most people are going to need a road map and a few directions (ie techniques).

As you progress, you start to understand that the whole thing is simple, but that your human mind has made it complicated. Being frustrated is a natural part of the process. It's only when you are overcome with frustration that you can REALLY let go. It's like you just drop to the floor in exhaustion, and that's when the lights start going off... You expend all your energy in the effort, and then life fills you back up with its knowledge. The problem was that you were just in your own way. And most people don't have a clue as to how they should get out of their own way unless they are exhausted, and are practically forced to do so.
This is why most experiences happen around sleep- you are just naturally getting out of your own way. This is mostly unconscious behavior however, and is therefore, obviously not the highest goal.
Don't get discouraged if these unconscious/spontaneous events are not happening as much as you'd like. Being spontaneous, they may happen 5 days in a row, or may stop coming all together for months at a time. I do not believe that they are necessarily good indicators as to how well you are progressing.