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Yeah, I guess so...it's just that lucid states are so rare to me, I just wish I could get lucid more often...heh, well anyway Thanks all of you for help on this...  

Real nice indeed....i also tried it, felt some kind of energy movement but what I really went through was very interesting...
It was late at night and I decided to try this, I was sitting on a chair...not so comfortable but good enough and I just listened to it...and WOW...I almost fell off my chair about 3-4 times...I was like dizzy, kept falling in a sleep-like trance but I kept waking up because my head was falling from one side to another...I must say that I am impressed

Eos:     Maybe if you can remember the voices...you should record it and play it backwards...perhaps there's some kind of information there(most likely in other languages but...I guess it's worth trying)

How do you fight this sort of creatures...I mean if something attacks you how do you fight it?
Also what is the difference between a creature like this attacking someone who can see them and someone who can't?...
I'm curious as to how this works...I can't see spirits but if they attack me I don't know of it.

Is it really true that some people never get the vibrations?  ...I mean I have gotten close to having an OBE but I never felt the bed was shaking or anything...just a little sound in my ear (exactly like when you yawn) and my body was like boiling...  

Hmm...that sounds really nasty, changing or altering your life might result in something very bad indeed.
Let's say that somebody called Mr. A went back oh let's say about 30 years back in time where he was still 9 years old , he enters his younger body and does something to alter events, let's say that he stops a man from dying from a car accident!(haven forbid!)...so after that the man is alive...The questions are:
1. If that man would have died that means that his astral body which is in the higher planes would disappear since there there is no time there?
2. What if the event(the man's death) would inspire Mr. A to practice OBE-ing and since the even never took place then he would not be inspired to have OBEs and that would mean that he couldn't have turned back in time to save the man?...  *dizzy*
3. What would happen to your future self ?
4. Would this even trigger the forming of another time-line , one in which the man never died  but Mr A still got inspired to have OBEs?
5. (in relation to 4) If Mr. A would go back to his original body would he
be in a different kind of future?...in one which was created by this turn of events?
6.How could Mr. A have knowned of this event since he changed it?...once you change time how do you know what you have changed,because the event never took place therefore you can't know of it...!
And many more questions of this type still exist!...going back to change time is NOT recommended. Changing the future isn't so bad really because many people have precognitive dreams which allow them to change certain things...
But there is question number 7 after all...
7. Is time "in one string" and that means that whatever you do has already been decided?

I agree, OBE is easier to do from and LD because the body is already sleeping then but...I think it's pretty hard to have an LD at will

Great!
And how should I do this then...because when I get lucid I immediately try the ROPE technique and that is when the sounds and other sensations come , but if I stop pulling on the rope it stops, so should I just keep pulling hard and focus on it until I project or pull on it a little and try to move...or maybe something else?

Thanks!
*does happy dance*

Excuse me but what does PADME mean?

hmm...I also remember I meditated in a dream, yeah...Aldough I didn't really notice I was dreaming. I was attempting projection and I was lying on a bed (in the middle of the street lol) so anyway, I used the ROPE technique and I...I could feel my astral body lifting up and I remember how light I felt, as if I didn't weigh anything, very cool. In the psychical I have never achieved something like this.
...Fascinating!  

Ohh...that's a relief, for a minute there I was ...hmm...puzzeled

I would like to ask this question that has been bothering me...
I have had about 4 close encounters with OBE's due to some lucky Lucid Dreams, so I immediately tried to project from them...but the sensations I felt were...very different from what I have heard. Those vibrations that people speak of, I'm not sure I felt them...what I feel is:
...You know that noise that rings in your years when you ,hmm how do you say in English "yawn"(I'm not sure if this is the correct word for it, but I am referring to when you are sleepy and you open your mouth like that , I hope you guys know what I mean...)...so anyway, I hear that sound in my ears and it's like water boils in my, and it's hot.
What do you think...am I close?...Has anyone encountered this before?...Is this what you are suppose to feel or are the vibrations, or strange noises necessary?...I also don't see anyone or anything strange if I open my eyes from an LD, even though I am, theoretically, in sleep paralisis...
So...ideas?  

You have to ignore that...things like this usual happen, it's energy moving very very fast through the heart chakra and if it not evolved enough it pulses like that and starts to beat really fast...
You can either:
1. Ignore it and do the ROPE
...or...
2. Concentrate on it until you project!
...

LOL...I'm happy for you, really...it just seems very funny that I have tried to project for over an year now and you did it in 3-4 weeks...lol

My advice is really to contact your spirit guide and ask him stuff, that's what I would do...

Oh yeah...I have many things that don't work well but visualization is something I really have...Like I said, if it's dark I can scare myself of the things I can imagine(visualize) ...

I thought that phasing was the ability to walk through walls in the astral...
Could you perhaps enlighten me on what you meant by that?
Thanks a lot!

hmm...I hate reality checks(no offense )
They don't really work for me so well, and it's hard to check every 10 minutes if you're dreaming, there has to be another way...
hmmmmm  

Yeah I guess that's true kmD ...

fost500: Hey that's a good idea. Also I often do this...lie on the bed with my elbow resting on the bed and with the rest of my hand in the air, if you start to fall asleep you get woken up by your hand falling, of course this is just for practice but it is useful(Read it in Astral Dynamics, and it really does work, I tried it)
And the idea with the beeper sounds real cool, also this idea came in my mind while reading your post lol. Set the clock to ring 3-4 hours before you wake up and then start to practice for OBE and usually you'll dream you are trying to have one, and sometimes you get Lucid and can really try. I've had this happened a couple of times and it was pretty cool.

I have the same problem, I mean I dream the most ridiculous things and I can't see to get lucid , it really bothers me...I should start doing affirmations too...hmm

I am now downloading the file but it's only 68.4 mb not 90 like you said...is this the right file or... ?

Hold on a minute...I just read the article and it says that you can die from doing the NEW system?!?!
What tha...I read the book and it says there that it is completely safe

...I think I might just accidentally activated my base chakra a little too much. I'm 16 years old and yeah, that sexual activity really bothers me A LOT. If I start working on the other chakras would this stop?
...Also the second chakra(starting from the base one), is very active and I get cramps and all, and also when I'm not doing energy work I get pulsing in different parts of my body. I think I activated the base chakra and that might have caused this...am I right?...any comments or advices on this would be appreciated. Thanks!

WOW!
That is soooo cool...what I wouldn't give to live in a house like yours.

I remember I was pretty sad when I finished it...I mean, it was a super great book and finishing it was rather...I don't know but I certainly wasn't happy...But on the other hand I felt I knew much more about the astral and all....
Great Book indeed!

Hello!
I have been practicing OBE for about a year and a half(almost) but I can't do it...I have had some close calls with OBE's from Lucid Dreams but about 3-4 where I felt the vibes and all,but LD-ing isn't one of my talents unfortunately.
So the problem is that I cannot stay conscious while my body falls asleep...it is sooo hard I feel very tired and I just can't do it...I have other abilities like VERY strong visualization, I sometimes scare myself at night because of this(not that I mind that ) and I can work well with energy BUT I have a major problem, Keeping my mind clear...I think it is because of this that I fall to sleep but still...what do you think?...what can I do about it?

Thanks

[Hello all!I have been a fan of Robert Bruce for a very long time, I have no idea why I haven't signed in only now at the forums oh well lolI hope to find this site enjoying and I hope that I can share some experiences and get some knowledge back...I have been doing the NEW system for a year and a half I think and having good progress.Also trying to have OBE's but not much luck there...Oh well...]

Hello all!
I have been a fan of Robert Bruce for a very long time, I have no idea why I haven't signed in only now at the forums    oh well lol
I hope to find this site enjoying and I hope that I can share some experiences and get some knowledge back...I have been doing the NEW system for a year and a half I think and having good progress.Also trying to have OBE's but not much luck there...
Oh well...