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Im very sleepy, almost every time i lay down i will fall asleep, so usually when i try to project i fall asleep...

1)When im trying to project i remember that when im asleep/dreaming, i can get vibrations and other stuff easier,  i think i even got out once, but its all very blurry, and covered with dreams, so it isnt any real conscios projection...

2)I could try to project while im meditating, but then i have to keep my back/spine straight, is it ok that its not relaxed, becose its being kept straight...

3)ANy other suggestions about sleeping, and how non-sleepy can u be to project

Sorry about my grammer but that spellchecker dosnt works for me..

Hmm, you all seem to think that im afraid from vibrations, well, now im not, becose i know what it is...jus only few times i could get them again, was when i was a sleep(i was half conscious, tryying to project, falled asleep and was so concentrating that i even tried it while i was dreaming ), i wasnt scared, but since i was a sleep i coldnt do exactly what i wanted to do, you know just "flowed" in my dream..btw, vibrations wasnt so vivid too

I just found out that i have a very big problem, beofer i ever know anything about APing, once, i had a very big vish to get out of my body and to get to one star, i was begging/forcing myself to even die only get out of my body and where i wanted to go...so i felt a sleep, "woke up" from vibrations, i freaked out and ordered them to stop...(See what you can get with good motivation?)

No i want to project but i cant find a good motivation, a real reason why i should project, i dream to fly, explore universe and beyond, of course in beginning a could just play walking trought walls, so what can you suggest for motivation(not anything detailad, just ideas)?

Can you just force yourself with idea that you want to get out there..?

my big "monologus" again

Where can i get that deep mind preset?
It would be good as mp3 or wav already, but preset will work too..only then il have to use "pills" for bwgen

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050222195319.htm
What do you think about it?
There is so much stars in our galaxy but such event is only now registered, a star leaving galaxy...
This may sound a little crazy, but here it goes:
i have an idea(not really serious) that this could be a alien spaceship for whole its civlisation to leave this galaxy for some reason..for example a gamma ray brust?
Any other ideas ?
JUst willing to chat about it...

Sometimes when i go to gym and when im so tired that i walk i were drunk, if i dont fall asleep i always get vibrations(but only whenim very tired, if i still can do anything else than sleep after that, it wont work)

What pills exactly are you taking(what are they called)?
..and to others, could it be good/bad to try out?

btw, for realtimechat ther still is irc server: irc.webmaster.com #astralchat
and that java chat(~500kb) i set up at  http://tesla.eclub.lv/ (it may ask for certificate, i hadnt time to set that up yet, but no ones chatting..so there is no need)

ps: somethin iswrong with my spacebarso im writing quite bad...

okey, some(most of those who i asked at school/home) people say that it could be blood flow near ears, but i think its not..it dont sounds like that..its more  like "multi track" sound, its even hard to describe ti, its almost like it wasnt a sound...

What is this high pitched noise in your head, from where it comes...
...ah while im writing i tried to listen to it, it becames louder, and i noticed that it starts to remind that sound when i get wibrations...offtopic..
so where it comes from, could this be used for target on wich to concentrate, to clear your mind...
Anyway, tell me something about it...

http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/guide.html read the fear section
I guess its the same for me, big fear, and then you wake up with your heart beatingfaster than ever  : )))))

Afther that you think, excrement, why i didnt used this chance, next time ill suppres my fear ...

Sounds very similar to:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16598
..may i ask what ar you using to get in this state...?

OMG
I got this about 3-4 times, only thing i was asleep all the times, but when it happens my mind turns on.
first two were month before i knew anything about APing, other two's were after. First 2 times i tought im going to die, same as 3rd..but then i knew what it was..but the feeling is so scary(like someone is asking you, do you want to continiue? and i alwas say no no no go away, like that), you describet it exactly like i had. when i had it 3rd time, i understood what mistake i made, but 4th time i freaked out again :/
Have to try that holosync

As i undertood, you ar helping me getting lucid dreams.
Its when youre fully aware of your dream...
I wasnt interested in lucid dreams, but last week almost every night i become aware that im dreaming...but it stays only as long as im concentrating on repeating in my mind that im dreaming(even if i repeat it but not concentrate on it i continiue to dream), so is your suggestions about how to keep lucid dreaming or how to induce them.
And the state when i realize im dreaming is already a lucid dream, or i still need to gain more control/ make my mind more awake, so it dosnt drifts in a dream-movie again?
This sounds good : http://www.lucidity.com/NL62.FoolsGuide.html

Btw, im waking up and geting pre obe(havyness,vibrations, feeling of like beeing pushed in some direction) sensations, mostly when im half awake.
Yesterday i clearly saw aura for firs time, so i had no doubt it was aura.
Strange week...

Recently when im asleep i bacome aware for a short time that im asleep(i think becose my mind is full of ideas about APing etc, im excited becose im new to it all), then i usually try to wake my mind up (do some math, remember my personal data etc), but it usually dont helps, i continiue to dream after few seconds, and forget that im asleep.

1)Can i take control in such situation, or its just a part of a dream(like im dreaming that im aware of my dream)

2)What is the best way to "kick" your mind "on", and avoid dreaming.

Hmm....a little offtopic, about dreams:
sometimes when i get really scary nightmares, wich dont end for a long time(usually there is nothing frightening, e.g.  im in my room, and its empty and all is very gray, and i get a feeling thet there is something realy scary)
so...if i get those dreams i usually try to scream for someone to wake my up...
i dont know if im screaming, but at first my mouth is like sealed, and nothing comes out and i have to try very hard to start screaming, and only hten with great effort i can wake up...

1)Is that screaming similar to what you have to do to get out of your body?
2)Why i get such scary dreams, ok i may have a nightmare, but in those dream there is nothingscary, only feeling that something bad is going to happen, but is far more frightening that ordinary nightmare..?

Update:
Most recent event was last night...
i like to leave cd playing quit loud while im sleeping,
on this cd there was some meditation records, and when i woked up one of them was playing(as i remember this time i got that frightening feeling from sound, i guess was from my player):
Tibetian Chakra Meditations-Sacral Chakra
does it makes any sense, or just a vivid dream?

What book, V.Grebennikov "My World"?
I would like to get that book, it was pleasure to read that chapter Flight, very pictorial, i liked it..      
Btw, i know a little russian, so if somebody has some information you could drop me a link(im bad at writing, so i cant do good russian searches in google), becose most of information about torsions is from Russian.

Cavity structural effect:
i notice most of it right before and while im having vibrations, anyway i havnt projected jet....
...i have an idea of building torsion generator/getting charged objects and use them to get in such state, gain more energy to make it easier to project...bit sometimes i think it may be not right, its like using drugs to get high...you have to do it yourself(gain energy etc) to do it right....

Ok here is interesting fragment from http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos/09.htm :

As Grebennikov tried to fall asleep above these gently humming, living bee cities, he started to experience very bizarre effects that were too powerful to ignore. First his body felt as if it were continually expanding and contracting in size, while also feeling as if it were in a state of free-fall. Then, as the effect intensified, he began to see flashes in front of his eyes that would continue to appear whether his eyes were open or closed. His mouth suddenly had a strong metallic taste as if he had pressed his tongue onto the contact plates of a nine-volt battery, and he also experienced a loud ringing in his ears and an enhanced awareness of his heartbeat. When he moved as little as five feet away from this particular spot, all the effects would cease, but when he returned to the spot the effects would come back.

http://www.bcx.net/hypnosis/induct.htm
I red first chapter/part(introduction/tima saving tips) and its exactly the samewhen i try to do some of this stuff(aping,obe,telekinesis)...
I havnt finished reading it.. but maybe there is something usefull to help get in trance state..

When you design pages your gola is to make it cool, interesting, easy to navigate...

When you publish information important thing to you and most readers is content, not appearance...

Even if design is poor i dont like pages without photos/ilustrations, i like to work with graphics(flash,3d), and its always easier to understand for me something trought pictures.

Btw, is here anyone who knows how to make active torsion field generator(easiest way?)

I listened it several times on my player yesterday i dont like it, it causes pressure on my head(right side), like someone is pushing my head very hard, even painfull.

The file is incomplete it ends up(dosnt fades out or something like that..) at 19.55~
or it should be so?

Just a thought....
...you don't need to ahve any special gifts or abilities..just sit in a quiet place, relax, ask for guidance and ask to be led into any place, and any group of people that have died and need to be retrieved....

This means if i still cant do AP, or OBE i can try to do it?

Can i be hipnotized for example in english, if my native language isnt english, but i understand every word in hypnosis?
Is there any way to hypnotize myself to do OBE, so i truly belive its possible and so on?

And is it  important in binaural(?or how they are called?) rythms to preserve channel positions(L/R-left headphone in left ear right in right)

What usually is harder?
Getting out, or get in trance/vibration(other?) state?

As i said already, i set up one JAVA IRC client at http://tesla.eclub.lv
It connects to irc.webmaster.com #astralpulse automatically,
you just have to type in nick, and youre in!

Im using PjIRC, its ~500kb, but it has nice gui and its not buggy...
btw if someone is willing to enchace the site, change gui to Astral Pulse style i can give my FTP pasword...