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#51
I mostly project just for the fun of it.  Astral projection is not a requirement to growing spiritually.  At this stage in my spritual development there is nothing in the astral that anyone there can teach me that I can't already learn here in the physical.  If anything it is the other way around.  It is my "higher self" that is learning from me, which is why I'm here.  :wink:
#52
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: Future of humanity
October 28, 2012, 12:04:14
Quote from: zareste on October 28, 2012, 01:49:24
What you're doing is not actually making you feel better, but lowering your standards of happiness to the point that it's inseparable from misery. This is why we have people who enjoy setting fire to animals or cutting themselves. They're okay with it. Their concept of happiness is the same as their concept of pain.

Ahh yes.  I'm sure there are many who do this.  Most likely because they have deeply attached themselves to the illusion of this reality and they believe there is no escape.

Quote from: zareste on October 28, 2012, 01:49:24
Now, if I tried to get rid of you two, in order to inch humanity a little closer to being objectively happy instead of having to love pain, you would take offense and become violent in return. You wouldn't actually set there and think happy thoughts while I do nasty things to you. So, your urge to fight and take violent action is certainly there. It's just directed at the good guys while you're okay with the bad guys.

Yeah, the ego has many many layers.  It's very much like peeling a very large onion.  Awareness is one of the major factors in subjugating the ego.  Awareness is key in almost if not every aspect of our life.  For example how many times does one notice they scratch an itch on their nose or their arm.  It is the ego's subconscious knee jerk reaction to seek relief from that itch.  Something as subtle as an itch may seem somewhat insignificant, but many times it's the subtleties that have the greatest effect.  To those who have a high level of awareness of every moment of their experience will be aware of the itch before the ego has a chance to take control.  At that point the individual can make a choice.  There is also an excellent opportunity to control the ego, and mold their perspective into whatever they wish.  In most cases it's all about letting go.
#53
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: Future of humanity
October 28, 2012, 11:39:54
Quote from: Lionheart on October 28, 2012, 00:46:10
That Yoda, so wise! He handles the fear based scenarios pretty good too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIr1fjjjFQQ&feature=related

Hehe, yeah Yoda, Morpheus, and the Oracle always has some enlightening pearls of wisdom.  8-)
#54
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: Future of humanity
October 27, 2012, 23:41:57
Quote from: zareste on October 27, 2012, 23:07:17
Try focusing on a flower while someone is piercing you with a long needle.

But there's no one piercinig me with a long needle at this moment.  At this moment the sky is clear and the moon is bright.  Which perspective do you prefer?  There is always a choice.  Always.

Also, there is absolutely nothing anyone or anything can do to you without your agreement, whether conscious of it or not.  You have exclusive power over your own reality.

Quote from: zareste on October 27, 2012, 23:07:17
That's one of those things a lot of us learned when we were 3 or so.

Exactly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4jeREy7Pbc   :wink:
#55
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: Future of humanity
October 27, 2012, 22:00:22
Quote from: zareste on October 27, 2012, 19:02:28
I'd say so. Obviously the rest of us aren't perfect - we've been degenerating for thousands of years alongside them and have become rather nutty ourselves. The problem is that sometimes a branch of the gene pool starts to develop predatory habits, or other habits which are self-destructive in the long run, and these behaviors ought to be fixed or the degenerate branch will continue to evolve in a predatory direction and become more and more proficient at it. One day they'll exhaust their resources and descend into physical and mental decay until they're forced to attack the other cultures, sometimes winning and enslaving and interbreeding with the other cultures. Effectively they will drag everyone down with them, turning everyone else degenerate, and it's a no-win situation because the new bigger bunch of degenerates will deplete their resources and start targeting more cultures.

So, if a degenerate branch can't be changed in an easy fashion, they eventually have to be euthanized. Deciding which branches and behaviors are 'degenerate' is a very tough judgment call.

Most of our problems come from late Egypt and early Europe. In short, a few degenerate breeds showed up and were not eliminated in a timely fashion, so they developed until they were able to conquer the stable breeds. Some of the degenerates interbred with the conquered cultures, while others (who led to the European monarchies, for instance) kept their bloodlines to themselves but degenerated all cultures around them with deceitful and warmongering behaviors.

Because these degenerates defected from some very developed cultures, they were able to spread their reign to countries beyond Europe. Fast-forward a few thousand years and we have our situation today.

The plans to kill off 98% of the population may sound like a solution to some people (Xanth has been sending positive vibes toward it) But the people behind the operation are much worse than the general human public - if you can imagine that. They're like that kid who burns animals, and thinks you're crazy because you're negative toward burning animals. They come up with various reasons for killing people, but really they just like to see things die and will keep it up until the ecosystem finds a solution to them.

Well if this is a problem and something one does not wish to experience, then why focus on it?  Why not take what you have learned so far, and just let it go and focus on something else?
#56
He's mostly on Facebook now.  You can easily contact him here:

http://www.facebook.com/adrian.cooper.9003
#57
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: Future of humanity
October 27, 2012, 11:52:40
Quote from: zareste on October 27, 2012, 06:41:39
Boy that's just plain wrong. The people heading these hierarchies are literally a different breed and culture from normal people. They've kept their degenerate bloodlines apart from ours for thousands of years and will not ever interact with normal people as equals. A few of them have even tried but were killed or outcast by the other degenerates for breaking the status quo. They don't think or act anything like normal people do, and they view functioning people and cultures as nothing but targets.

Hmm, I see. So is this a problem?
#58
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: Future of humanity
October 26, 2012, 11:00:09
Keep in mind however, the snakes that run our institutions are serving the System like most everyone else.  They are no different than the majority of mainstream society.  The average individual of mainstream society would most likely do the exact same things the snakes are doing if they were in their position.  Actually, the average individual already does the exact same things our corrupt institutions do as well as the people who run them.  It's just that institutions have a much bigger target on their back because, well, they are BIG.  :wink:  We compete and conspire against others all the time for the purpose of serving ourselves before serving others.  This is the nature of the current System we have in place.  But you are right, we cannot change the System.  We must change ourselves, and when we change ourselves then the System will change as a result.
#59
Yeah, I have to go with ego on this one as well.  The other day my wife was watching The Universe on SyFy, and Steven Hawking was explaining time travel, and I couldn't help but let my ego get the best of me and was thinking to myself, "now here's a guy who is supposed to be a guru of astro physics and I feel so much smarter than he does right now".   :-P

LOL  :lol:

But seriously though there is no one greater or lesser than another.
#60
Better yet, does one sense something because it's about to happen or does something happen as a result of one sensing it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z7KejUahOo

:wink:
#61
Well, I'll just add that absolutely everything "within" and "throughout" Universe is energy which I'm sure most here are already aware of.  Energy in it's native state, before it is observed, is simply potential.  Absolutely no thing can be created or destroyed, only formed.  Therefore, anything and everything that has ever existed and ever will exist already exists at this very moment.  Construction and deconstruction is nothing more than the forming and reforming of existing energy based upon one's observations, perceptions, and beliefs.  There is no such thing as "matter" other than the fact that we experience the perception of it.  Everything in our physical reality is nothing more than an illusion and is not real as there is no basis or substance to anything within it.  They are just props formed from our own consciousness.  The experience is real to be sure.  If I run into a pole and bang my head, the experience of running into that pole and feeling the pain of banging my head is a real experience, but nothing more.  The only reason I would run into the pole to begin with is that the frequency at which the energy my body vibrates is similar to the frequency at which the energy of the pole vibrates.  However, one could raise their vibration to the extent that there would be no collision with the pole at all, but rather move right through it.

Adrian gives an excellent description of matter:
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The very nature of "matter" itself from which the brain, through the five sensory organs, compiles its initial "best guess" composite image, is, in reality totally transient in nature, only having any form of perceived but not "real" existence at the moment at which it is observed or an attempt is made to quantify it.


The real paradox here then is that it is the Subconscious Mind that actually makes an observation under the instructions of the Conscious Mind. So when you "look" at something, the Conscious Mind is simply telling the Subconscious Mind to "observe" it.


However, it is only when the Subconscious Mind actually does this that the "object" actually becomes observable, thus originating the whole process of sensory observation, interpretation, filtration and presentation in the first place.
So it is the Subconscious Mind that "creates" the object, processes the object and presents the object back to the Conscious Mind as "what it expected to see".


This entire process is completely under the control of the Conscious Mind which is therefore perpetually "generating" its own experience, which in fact never really exists except as a perceived experience which the Conscious Mind believes is "real".


So we can now clearly see that these factors together perpetuate an "experience" that is an "illusion loop", the nature of which is determined by Conscious Mind itself.
#62
Quote from: Lionheart on October 09, 2012, 20:34:55
Thank you for sharing this Kirkland. I read about this doctor before and loved his story. More and more Neurologists and Doctors/Scietists in general are awakening. But just like with all of us, they have to experience it first. There is no way they are going to change their personal views on what they have taught and been taught for years unless they have their own personal epiphany.

This.  Exactly this.  8-)
#63
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The Government
October 08, 2012, 00:08:51
Quote from: desert-rat on October 07, 2012, 12:49:41
There is a post on this forum , it was on going to area 51 to see what is there .  Some one stated that there are astral guards protecting the place .  In a book by Robert Monroe he found him self in Hyannis Port MA by mistake and found some astral guards protecting J.F.K. ( early 60s )  The gov. may know some on a.p.  desert rat

Yeah I remember that post.  It might be helpful to keep in mind that there is no area to go to because there is no such thing as space or distance.  There is only our belief and perception of distance considering our physical experience within a dense, linear type of reality.  We are already everywhere at once.  Therefore, we are already in area 51 at this moment.  It's just that our awareness is currently focused within our waking conscious mind that is limited by the 5 physical senses.  When we free our awareness from the physical through projections of Consciousness such as LDs, APs, and OBEs we are free to shift our awareness within Consciousness limited only by our comprehension, imagination, and beliefs.  Most projections also include the perception of traveling, like leaving the body and walking around during an OBE or flying around in a LD.  Again these are just perceptions based on our physical experiences within this current physical reality, but there is no traveling.  We are just shifting our awareness.

I'm more inclined to believe that the guards are nothing more than one's belief that there are guards.  In other words it's really yourself that is blocking you from going in.  Even if there really are guards "there" (again there is no there, just our perception of it) the only thing they could do is use your own fears and beliefs against you, therefore leading you to believe they are blocking you from "entering", but they cannot block you because you are already in the area they are guarding.  You just have to shift your current awareness within Consciousness.  And that's really all you're doing, shifting awareness.  So regardless of whether there are guards there or not, the only one from blocking your access to that information is you.

Also keep in mind, if there really are astral guards there guarding secret information then they are operating within a realm of fear and therefore do not fully realize the true nature of Universe.  When there is no fear there is nothing to guard.

I'd also like to point out that those who are experienced at exploring Consciousness will most likely have no interest in secret underground government operations or cover-ups anyway.  There are way more grander and exciting things to explore within Consciousness.
#64
Rebellion only serves to perpetuate the issue.  It is also the polar opposite of attachment.  All attachments enslave.  Let go of everything you fear to lose.  Just let your fears go.  Let go of all attachments.  Let go of everything.  We cannot change our governments or other institutions anymore than we can change our neighbors.  We cannot change the world.  We cannot change anything we perceive to be outside ourself.  This is impossible.  We can only change ourselves.  The world is a reflection of you.  When you realize you are the world you realize that when you change yourself you change the world.
#65
Quote from: Stookie_ on October 05, 2012, 11:37:44
Be content with not knowing all the answers, because you won't ever be satisfied. Otherwise you'll get overwhelmed and depressed. You have to enjoy the moment, time doesn't really exist, all that exists is in front of you right now. Once you find the "now" you'll realize you have everything you need right "now".

This cannot be overstated.  :-)
#66
It's not a major loss anyway.  Space exploration using technology limited by the Newtonian laws of physics doesn't compare to inner exploration.   :wink:  Not even close.
#67
One method that usually works really well for me is I just let go everything as if I'm diving backwards off a cliff and doing a free fall into nothingness.  No attachments to thoughts or emotions.  No attachments to anything.  It does take a bit of practice in the beginning, but the more it is done the easier it gets, and can be done instantly at will anytime you wish without doing any relaxation exercises.  I don't try to run from a thought or push it away because rejection is the same as attachment, just polar opposites.  I just let it float by with no attachments and observe as it dissipates into nothingness.  But I don't just do this during meditation.  I practice this throughout the entire day.  However, that can be a bit challenging given the type of lifestyle of today's society.  It's also excellent for increasing projection experiences.  I also apply this same method of non attachment to projection experiences.  I don't attach myself to anything I am experiencing within the projection experience, because the moment I do is when I usually lose consciousness.  I just express my intent and go with the flow.  Half the time my intent usually forms itself into something totally unexpected, but I still do not attach myself to it.  I just go with the flow and the projection experience will normally last as long as I wish.

Just let go... of everything, without any fear or regret of... anything.

That's one method that works well for me, but each individual is different.  :wink:
#68
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: What do you think!
October 01, 2012, 10:02:41
Technology is nothing more than a tool we believe we have to use in our current mindset to work through our issues, to learn and to progress physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.  But it's not required to advance a society.  Considering the current state of our dualistic reality in which we have allowed ourselves to be cut off from everything - being disconnected from the planet, from nature, from each other, and even from ourselves personally, we have, through our intuition and inner guidance, gradually developed ways that can lead us back to self realization and regain that connection with all life and with the Universe.  Society seemingly has always had that overwhelming urge to explore and discover who we are, where did we come from, where are we going, are we alone in the Universe, etc., because we are so incredibly disconnected... from everything.  We have that urge to rediscover ourselves and to learn the secrets of the Universe, so we do the only thing we feel we have the current knowledge to do, and that is to create the tools we feel is best appropriate to meet these needs and desires.

However, because we are disconnected from everything, including our environment, and because of the overwhelming desire to meet the demands of our ego combined with deeply embeded and dominating belief systems, we currently live out of harmony and out of balance with, well everything, and the majority of the technology that we have developed is a reflection of that disharmony.  But this is also all part of working through our issues and is part of our learning experience towards our full potential as a highly advanced society.  At the same time society is gradually and increasingly rediscovering itself and creating technology that is pushing society even faster towards a harmonious relationship with all life and restore the connection that we had lost, at which point we will no longer need that technology that has guided us along.  I'm not saying we will necessarily get rid of all technology, but that we're only using it to progress.  It's like training wheels to get us moving along until we no loger need them any further.  So currently we have 2 techonologies, one that is seemingly destroying everything to meet the demands of society such as oil and agriculture as one example, and one that is creating self awareness and reconnecting society such as the Internet for example.

It is wise that we do not become attached and dependent upon technology like we have been, and we are definitely incredibly and overwhelmingly attached.  Again, it should be looked at as a tool and not as a way of life.  Advanced technology is not indicative of an advanced society, nor does it make a society advanced - far from it.
#69
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: The Government
September 25, 2012, 11:30:35
Because that is what we chose to create.  That is the type of system WE have formed.  Our institutions, such as our governernments, corporations, religions, etc. were formed out of the necessity to meet the demands of society.  Whatever our governments do or any institution does, do so because we as a collective society demanded they do it, whether we agree with what they do or not.  I could go on and on about why "They" conspire against society, but it would be completely irrelevant, because "They" are not the "problem".
#70
Quote from: todd421757 on September 23, 2012, 17:44:17
Realistic = a physical-like experience

This is the definition society uses. Not that we should adopt that definition here. All experiences are technically realistic. But for a newbie they usually want a physical like projection to prove it is a real phenomena in their physical life system.

Hmmm, interesting.  They may choose otherwise once they have a fully conscious, fully lucid projection experience that is beyond explaining in words.  I have had many projection experiences that were much more solid, much more vivid, and therefore perceivably and incredibly much more "real" than the physical reality.  The physical reality can seem dim, thick, sluggish, and dreary by comparison.
#71
Quote from: Xanth on September 19, 2012, 19:32:58
Today's "Science" is very much "belief"-based.
It's just another religion.

^ This!
#72
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Do future tellers exist?
September 16, 2012, 13:42:16
Yep, it's very easy.  Anyone can do it.  It doesn't mean that you'll actually experience it however.  But an important note, there is no such thing as a "future" just as there is no such thing as a "past".  Those are nothing more than linear, human concepts.  There are an infinite number of potential experiences all existing at this very moment.  Anything that has ever happened and anything that ever will happen and anything that we will never personally experience already exists at once.  So again, anyone can predict a moment that has the potential to become part of one's experience, but it is totally up to you as to whether you actually experience that prediction or not.
#73
Quote from: Stookie_ on September 14, 2012, 12:08:09
That's what they do... give you a little bit of something real to hook you, then feed you junk. "If I know this to be real, then what they say about this must be too".

Someone recently sent this to me in an email (for the 8th or 9th time), and I did a little more research into it. The whole thing comes from "The Emerald Tablets of Thoth", which first of all, the tablets are like the ones Joseph Smith found: no one has ever seen them. They were written 36,000 years ago and hidden in a room under the great pyramid. OK, I'll just take your word on that  :roll:. The writings themselves are channeled, and it makes sense, because it seems like a bunch of channeled misinformation - it sounds kind of smart, though it's loaded with a ridiculous amount of unverifiable and hard-to-believe information.

And if you speed up the video just a hair more, it's presented by alvin and the chipmunks.

Yeah, but it's still fun to imagine since we have absolutely no "official" documented facts about our ancient history, and now with the overwhelming amount of recent research of artifacts and monuments that have been gathered and accumlated across the globe, there is no doubt that what they have been teaching us all throughout school was either misleading, withheld, or an all out lie for various reasons of course.  One thing is for certain however, there is already overwhelming evidence that there were ancient civilizations on this planet that were at times far more advanced than we have ever been in our own recorded history.

I enjoyed the videos.  It kinda got my curiosity going, and I don't agree or discount any of it since no one knows.  :wink:
#74
Quote from: majour ka on September 10, 2012, 21:16:00


Then you clearly, clearly haven't seen first hand the destruction and suffering it can cause people you care about, I have.
As for "there will*ALWAYS* be a segment of population" so you concede it can be harmful, your playing down its addictive and destructive potential. Making it legal and more prevalent will only increase that problem.
Research! dare me? I have plenty of experience thank you, enough to make a very informed decision. You  state that alcohol is much more dangerous than weed,...have you considered is because its legal?

Alcohol is different debate, but yes as you say its potentially dangerous to...whats you point? You want to talk about cigarets aswell? lol...looks like we are not going to agree on this one.

Show me one person who smokes lots everyday who is healthy, mentally and physically, balanced, motivated and successful....and ill show you ten who are depressed, in debt, jobless, or psychotic.

I know many people who have told me how much their life has improved since they stopped smoking weed. FACT.

But this still doesn't negate the overwhelming benefits of hemp.  The benefits of hemp FAR outweighs whatever negative effects of marijuana.
#75
Quote from: AstralCody on September 07, 2012, 20:35:26
A good technique I do before I sleep I lay there every night and listen to music usually Enya...

Awesome!  I always enjoy listening to Enya.  8-)