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I`m fasting today. It is better than I thought    

OK, anybody here can tell me why is it called Good Friday here in USA? I'm from Latvia and in our language it`s Big Friday, if translated literally...

I want to wish everybody happy coming Easter!!

God bless everybody,

I.

Dear Gaarden,

Im sorry for your trouble; however, at least for me, depression and anxiety have been great tools for developing my spirituality. It has made me ask unending questions and seek the truth... OBE is just one way. In the process I learned to meditate, calm my mind, open up to God... Nevertheless, I hope that depression is over for me and I can manage my anxieties in a better way. Depression causes terrible suffering, I don`t think anything can be worse than this hell.

I think u are on the right path. Keep asking your questions and seeking the answers. One thing I noticed that I am much more successful in my OBE attempts when I`m happy, peaceful, excited about life...I guess it has to do with the energy of LOVE, which is unsurpassed. Try achieving OBE yourself, there are many good tips in the books and also on this message board. We all are different, some people need OBE to change their lives.

Oh gosh, I wish I had NDE myself

Good luck,
love,

Ivanda

Can you explain what the hell is going on?

I think that is exactly what is going on...hell... People should not act so surprised that the earth is shaking, we are part of the reason. Probably the greatest part.

Brendan, it seems to me u had an OBE in your sleep, but it is also possible that it was a dream and that it was a trigger for OBE, only u woke on exit. Correct me if Im wrong. The first possibility seems more likely though.

I love flying dreams!

All i was thinking was how slick my astral body was

Hehehe... I have had the same thought. Once during meditation I realized that something is not quite right, I was lying in my bed and one of my legs was bent over the other one--my usual position when I read or write something while in bed; however, then the realization came that it cannot be possible..they must be stretched out straight and parallel..hehehe.. at that thought my astral legs sprang back in to my physical with such speed as if afraid i would notice, but it was too late..  

a couple weeks. I practice every night, on most nights i come close to OBE, but only on few of them i manage to get out.

Happy feelings, feelings of love or friendship are a source of tremendous power and energy. Whenever I had a very emotional communication with somebody which left me happy that night, I would experience amazing things when meditating and/or trying to project.  U are so right.
Love is source and basis of everything, the more we rely on the power of love, the better our lives.  

Are u two doing it from the state of Lucid dream?

I usually do it before falling asleep, just relax and then try to stay aware during hypnagogic state. But I have the same problem, usually when the symptoms of OBE hit, I just become too aware of my heart beating or my breathing and that does not let me separate fully.  Maybe I need to practice more. At least the feeling of fear is as good as gone.

Ybom,

U know, I had a killer headache yesterday and I went for a jog for the first time... I had no headache afterwards. Thank you very much!  

Ivanda

I had the same problem. After my first OBE, which was short but awesome, I could not even get close for a longer time and, I believe, it was due to over excitement. When I calmed down and stopped wanting it so badly, my next one was even more powerful. Don`t lose heart, if u practice, u will get it!

I.

I don`t think this is the case with me... I see the bright light when totally relaxed and peaceful. Only later I may experience some OBE symptoms and increased heart rate... The light seems to come and go, it is pretty amazing. Before I used to get startled by bright light flashes ( I read that from other ppl`s accounts as well), could be neurones discharging, but weird though...

his is not an instantaneous flash of light, but rather a slow and gradual increase of a 'white-out' if you will, that originates from the upper left corner of my forehead, and fans out across both eyes and increases in intensity, replacing darkness with brightness.

I experience exactly the same thing. And I don't know what it is. Could be purely physiological or maybe something else. Anybody knows?

Ybom,

I may try the running thing, I was planning to start doing something physical anyway.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Well, the heat I felt was very intense. And the cloud thing was outside of my body--I perceived it like that. Not at all like flushed skin may feel... I was also in a pretty deep trance state at that time.

Yes, sure. I think it is genetic, because my mom suffers a lot too.

I can get headache for a week or even longer. Last fall I had sinus headache, probably it lasted for a month    

It went away after I started meditating, I could actually feel my chakras activating. It also felt like very hot air concentrated in the region of the particular chakra, of sometimes like heavy pressure.

I think that illness is connected with our mental state/our thoughts and actions. I was a little depressed last week, concentrating on myself all the time, and the headache came back.  

Hi all,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put it, but something pretty interesting happened yesterday. I went in to meditation, relaxed completely and quieted my mind... I had had migraine for maybe a week, so during the meditation at some point I suddenly perceived my headache (in the forehead and temples) like a hot cloud of air around these regions and then it slowly dissipated. The migraine practically disappeared.  

I have read that illness can be seen in one`s aura/energy field, but this is first time when i felt it myself. I'm still not sure how to explain it, but the sensation of hot air surrounding my head and then leaving was totally real.

Any ideas? I did not even have an intention to try and heal the headache, it just happened automatically. I think it is also of importance that I had a good day yesterday with lots of positive impressions, which maybe did something to my overall energetical condition.

Any comments appreciated!

Ivanda

Thank you, Frank. I kind of figured it could be anything. I so wish to meet my deceased grandfather, but i have never even dreamed about him. Or just don`t remember it.

Ya, I guess u are right.

What a beautiful experience it was!

Frank,

thank you for your reply.  But I have a question now. How did she do it? I mean phase to the Transition Area? Did it happen because she thought about her deceased relatives/missed them? Or did they actually want to  meet her and let her know that all is well? I'm sure she has never even heard of AP, OBE or any other such concepts.

Thanks,
Ivanda

My mom met one older catholic woman today and they started talking. She told her an amazing story, which goes like this: one night this woman dreamed  that she was in a very beautiful church, which was filled with light, and there she met her deceased parents and other relatives (her dad had died a very long time ago). They all looked wonderful and they told her that they have a very beautiful life now.  She woke up crying and not able to believe that it was just a dream. It had felt so real.

Well, it looks to me like astral projection.... what do u say?

Also she told a story about a religious miracle that happened to her. Her daughter in law was having a baby..the baby was born, but the mother  suffered complications and doctors did not have any hope she would survive. So this same lady went to church and kneeled before the picture of Jesus for 4 hours straight. Suddenly she got a reassuring feeling--as if somebody had told her that everything will be all right.  She and her sister went to the hospital, the sister was very hopeless, she expected that the girl had died; however, the nurse brought happy news to them--she had recovered and was doing well!  

Not really... I'm not noticing anything weird apart from that. I wonder if some friendly spirit just wanted to let me know that I'm not alone and tried to comfort me..  It did not occur yesterday or today. That is even more weird, because there is no prob with the system or so it appears.

Probably God is not against it, only thing he wants us is to love and if OBE can help one expand consciousness and come closer to love then why not?

My favorite saint Padre Pio was known for bilocations and AP. I think it was a natural gift from God--like a result of constant prayer and meditation, he did not try to induce anything... That is what I am trying to concentrate on now.

Yes probably, there is too much of mind control in OBE, but during NDE, when the brain is practically dead, people are free from it. Sometimes I wish I had an NDE and came back transformed, rid of all fears and anxiety    But I guess most of us have to learn it the hard way!

MJ-12,

thank you. It is a good idea, I should do that. Now I remember that similar thing was happening to my TV a while ago, and the TV is in another room. Weird!

I will try projecting to find out more.

Not everyone who can see in their body can see when they leave it at first

Thanks, Tom, for your replies. I have the same experience with OBE. Just cannot see, but there is plenty of room for exploration and growth.

OK, that makes sense, but it still does not explain the numerous NDE accounts where blind people have NDE, can see, but upon return to their body are blind just like before. Why such difference btw OBE and NDE??

Some info here:

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence03.html