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Hey thanks for the link.

I will let you know what I think when I read some of them.

You are defiantly not just dreaming.

There is a big difference if you dream it and if it is real... and anyone who felt it know that was not a dream beyond a doubt.

BTW sleep paralysis is something that is not strange to humans, I have heard of it even when I was a kid.

People will defiantly judge you all the time.

The more popular you are the more they will judge you, because then you are more in the spotlight.

Just do the exercises suggested, and don't give a excrement what they think of you.
Soon you will learn they are too preoccupied of what you think of them.

And stop labeling yourself !

Yeah I think we actually have a same point of view.

All I'm saying is that all of us could do great things, if we were influenced from the beginning.

The problem is that the society fancies "normal" people.
Almost all great people get laughed at at some point or the other.

So anyone dead yet ??

Cause I know Oazaki is the ALMIGHTY himself.
Please have mercy on their souls !

If you think it is not possible, then it is not - for you.

They are not born to be like they were.
Rather they were influenced by their parents, surroundings, friends, books they read etc...

Do not limit your potential by thinking that you could never achieve anything.

Mark that kind of advice is not rubbish, I have myself as an example.

Heather do what he says, but about the way you look, I would rather suggest you do some workout as that alone adds a lot to your confidence, not to mention you feel good after it.

Well the answer is simple: work on your physical appearance, go out more.

Just work in baby steps... do a thing that feels a little scary until it no longer does, and then move on.
Just like learning to AP

And about finishing things, it is just a question of motivation.

Maybe creepy, but very enjoyable

Heter I agree with people that you don't have a disease if you function as a normal individual.

About integrating with society, IT CAN BE LEARNED. I have myself as an example:)
What is your problem with people ?

Is it fear to talk to them, do you dislike most people or what ?

Telos I would like to answer your question about the mental health of people how say that they create reality.

First off let me tell you I integrate well into society , and I too take it for granted sometimes.

Ok now the "I create reality" does not literally
mean what it says. It does not mean that I create
rain or trees or what ever.

That simply means that I create MY reality.
I choose the way I think about anything, and
"as you think, so shall you become".

That last quote is very true also but not if you take it out of proportion.
If my dream is to be the best football player of the world, and all I do all day is eat and sleep, that obviously will not happen.
But if I train everyday, no matter the weather, my mood in that specific time, or anything else you CAN after a long time just achieve that goal.

The key is to be positive about that goal, not to loose faith in oneself and WORK HARD for it.

Well that is at least the way that I see the phrase "I create reality"... but I also always add "my reality".

Hope this will help you understand that mindset a little better.

Hey I also do believe in a god just not like the religions do.
The most important thing you can get from a religion in my opinion is that you do not condemn what is different than you. And that is difficult for anyone, but we do try .

And I agree with traveler that God does not have anything against OB.

About good, evil and morals, it is all in our mind, how we are conditioned to think. A certain conditioning is ok, up to a point: "live and let live".

Congratulations man.

Although I haven't projected jet, I can also say I love the vibrations. A few times I did nothing else but enjoy them lol .

Mustardseed I totally agree with you that you shouldn't push anything aside. I personally do not not believe what they are saying, but I don't condemn anyone who does.

The only problem I have with any faith is that they tell people they must do so and so or they will go to hell.

And to take it further, if you want to believe them, it is your choice, just don't try to make me believe in the same concept if I already told you I don't, as I don't force you to believe what I believe.

I think negs are negative entities right ?

And also martial arts or any kind of sport purifies your physical body, and
AP, energy work and the like purify you spiritually.

Well I feel those vibrations as I had a bed that can .... well vibrate.

But as far as my bookworm knowledge goes, some people feel them differently than others, some don't feel them at all, and they are not a prerequisite to OB.

Of course there is a difference.

The point was supposed to be that to a person to whom everything spiritual seems like a big blur, or something they regard as unusual at best, it will defiantly be the same.

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Also I do not understand people who claim that we try to escape reality by doing all these things. I find that I am able to cope with my work and everyday activities much better now instead of trying to run away.
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Which people are that ? I really did not discuss much about OB with anyone yet.

Anyways everyone escapes "reality" one way or the other.
Some more common ways are going to bars, clubs, compulsive shopping and the like...

Yeah I agree.

I train Thai box and you need to be relaxed there too, you can't hit good if you are not relaxed

To complicate simple things is easy.
To simplify complicate things is what is difficult.


Now we don't need to complicate another simple idea - living out of your body - do we ?


Edit:  CaCoDeMoN: David Icke's alien race is just a metaphor.

What for ?

I woke up at 5am and could not sleep anymore because I fall asleep at 9pm lol .

So at about 6am I decide to try to AP. I went back to my bed, relaxed, started breding slowly and deeply and also imaging falling from the sky and counting the numbers with each breath.

After some time I felt some light vibrations, and for awhile I just enjoyed the feeling of them. Then I tried the rope technique,that didn't work.
Next I tried imagining myself going out of my room, then my house and just walking around the neighborhood, but loose conciseness while doing it .

After who knows how long I realized I was sleeping, but I did not have an OB, just got back to consciousness and saw some variety of shapes.
After that some heavy vibrations start, and again I try the leaving my house and walking around the neighborhood thing.
I felt like I was closer than ever to coming out of my body, but I could of imagined it as well.

Well someone in my house made a loud noise then, so my physical eyes open and I was paralyzed for some 15 sec, and thats it.
It was 9am then.

Was I near an AP and what did I do wrong.
Any input appreciated thanks.

Gnostic library ->
Samael Aun Weor's five main books. Haven't read them yet though.

They like his work very much on http://www.gnosis-usa.com/

DOWNLOAD:
http://english.divinaciencia.com/livros_i.php?PHPSESSID=3ac2a857763527aa46b6ac347571f477

Thanks

Hey all.

I am new to all this stuff besides some very basic knowledge I heard about earlier.

I want to learn about the astral projection, so can someone point out to me where to start ?

Thanks.

Can you help me as well ?

If so I would like to know where to start .