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Not your physical heart, your heart chakra.  It may feel like your heart but its not. 

Ive repeated this many many times but before anybody gets any dumb ideas dont drink cough medicine unless you know what your doing.  The name is Dexomathorphine Hydrobromide.  Do not take medicines containing anything other than JUST DXM, such as guaffinesin or pseudophedrine as you will either die or have the sensations of needles being jabbed into your eyes accompanied by violent vomiting.  As a matter of fact dont mess with it at all because its not worth it. 

To say you have visions and hallucinations from DXM shows you dont know much about it so please, you, as well as everyone else out there, BE CAREFUL.

Good work!  Glad to hear it.  Nothing compares to that first time.  Keep it up and keep sharing your experiences!

Thats the ultimate question.... I think alot of people are attracted to projection because they think it will provide the answers to the afterlife etc but then they realize "Wait.... is what I am experiencing even outside of myself??? where do I go??" and it starts the path all over again.  I dont think we will ever know.

The RTZ is ridiculously random.  I have had many projections where I looked at my bed and I wasnt there or I was a little doll replica of myself or I was a woman.  Its something you will learn.

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Sorry, had to scream.  I think all newbs go through some crazy phase where they question every projection.  My advice to you is to remain calm.  I only have 2 qualifications for a projection and this fits both.

1. You leave your body
2. You remain conscious and lucid

Simple huh?  WELL THATS BECAUSE IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!!!    

That SUV full of people in your drive way is kind of creepy LOL 

Keep up the good work and keep us posted, its cool that your experiences are so clear.  When I first started I could barely see and stumbled around drunkenly most of the time.

So I thought this was interesting, you were in the North Pole where evil elves were trying to take over the world.  In Alaska there is something called HAARP its a US military base which has the ability to emit ELF waves.  "Extremely Low Frequency"  It's said that Haarp can be used to manipulate people's emotions and energy, the contraption is quite a weapon.

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Thought provoking layers to your symbols, or perhaps nothing.  Maybe the pesky creatures were just Extremely Low Frequency astral energies from a low vibration...

LOL well they did seem maniacle and devious, but I wouldnt call them intimidating.  I hadnt heard of the ELF generator and since I live in Wisconsin I should probably at least read about that but some of the info I come across on the net can be pretty fishy, no offense.

knightlight wrote:    For some reason this reminded me of spongebob squarepants and the jellyfish jelly harvesting process gone awry.   

hehe LOL I would hate for spongebob to run into one of these things.

From the sound of it you where definitely in the RTZ, I agree 100% with Psionic.  There are no limitations in the "Astral" so talking to Porky Pig isnt really even wierd.  Seriously.

I personally consider Lucid Dreams just another astral experience.  I am sure alot of people disagree with me but to me what the difference?  I am in an environment other than physical reality, fully aware... I just dont see the merit in seperating the two.  I would provide you with a link but im feeling lazy.   Just use google or yahoo, search for aura reading or auric vision.

Yeah I'm convinced everyone on the forums I post at thinks I am completely crazy but if I only posted my meaningful experiences I would only post like twice a year!  What fun would that be?  Besides I think it gives something for the newbies to read and think about.

LOL thats pretty funny.  I wouldnt consider this a bad experience, its just strange and funny.  I think everyone goes through phases like this.  Stick it out.  You've read enough of my experiences I'm sure to realize that not all of us can have straight up OBE's.

This is how I think everyone starts out while practicing a thing called Phasing, not sure if your familiar with it.  If not check out the Phasing FAQ post in the FAQ section.  This still happens to me when I try to phase before bed.  I am just not quite relaxed enough when the images start and I sort of pounce on them with my eyes, even though they are closed.  WHY??? WHY would I need to focus on something I am not seeing with my eyes?  That is what you need to get past my friend and its not easy.  I usually have the best success with allowing my self to fall into this imagery in the morning when I awake and then go back to bed almost right away.  Your so relaxed and still in a foggy state that instead of focusing on the images with your eyes you do it with your mind.  I have done this the past 3 mornings and had 4 or 5 exits each day using this.  Feel free to keep doing your usual practice, it will work for you, you just have to keep trying, but if given the chance try it in the morning as well, it will be WAY easier.  And remember, the images are NOT being seen with your eyes so dont try to focus on them.

kind of an old post but...

Dont worry about what order things come in!  I have all sorts of strange orders to things all the time and you dont want to trap your mind or yourself into thinking it has to happen in a certain order.

Yes I have experienced this as well.  Usually I will either be able to OBE super easy or not at all but usually the latter.  My friend's only OBE he ever had was when he was severly ill as a child.  I tried to tell him it was on OBE but he is close minded about these things.

Root:   under-active   (6%)
Sacral:   open   (19%)
Navel:   open   (25%)
Heart:   open   (44%)
Throat:   open   (63%)
Third Eye:   over-active   (88%)
Crown:   over-active   (75%)

Seems about right for me.

I had been dreaming away for a while, dont remember much of it and then I became lucid on a long road in a car.  I drove the car faster and faster because it seemed like the road went on for a long ways without anything on it at all.  I spotted a grey form coming and slowed down to about 15 mph.  it was a ghostly figure on a bicycle.  I kept at his pace and he veered off the road into the forest that lined the sides of the road.  I had been looking off to my right without paying attention to the road and as I turned back to the road 2 people where standing in the road ahead.  They where ghostly too and I drove through them.  THey didnt seem to care.  I saw lights coming from a house on the right side of the road.  It was a large A frame house with a sign outside and some beer signs in the windows.  I figured I could stop in for a drink and see what was going on inside.  I stepped in expecting a typical bar setting but it was alot like a normal house inside.  There where lots of rooms and they where set up with sofas and TV's and such.  I walked into a room and there where about 12 metal folding chairs set up with people in them and a guy talking to them.  As soon as I walked in everyone stopped talking and turned to stare at me.  I turned around and walked out.  I walked through a room with nothing in it but a guy laying on a sofa with his arm over his face and then into a little 4 seat bar like area.  My manager from work was standing at the bar.  I had had a dream with her in it the night before as well.  I walked up to her and we both laughed and said "What are you doing here?Huh" and exchanged formalitys.  Things blur there but I remember at one point heading towards the stairs going to the top floor and someone telling me something strange about it.  I went up the stairs and felt a wierd gravity shift, alot like vertigo.  I kept going as I was interested in what was ahead and got a very ominous sense.  I walked into a small room about 5 feet by 12 feet.  I imediately lost the use of my left eye which wouldnt let me keep it open and would twitch when I tried to open it and my right eye was blurring.  I couldnt walk really anymore, I was being pulled down and couldnt control which direction I walked in or moved.  With my one good eye (if you could call it that) I made out two people standing at the far right side of the room and in front of me in the left corner was a person crouched behind some kind of dresser.  I could only see there arm and leg sticking out and it was covered in ratty robes.

The person spoke to me in my mind, it was an old woman.  She said she was glad I had made it and she had to do what she had to do now.  It had been a long time coming and now that she had finally lured me there with the help of the other 2 she now had her chance.  Then she said "Its the end now Bill Fredrick" and I managed to drunkenly blurt out "Im not Bill" and the two people on the other end of the room began shouting randomly and making strange noises and one of them said "Its NOT him" and the old woman said "Well now you know all and I cant let you go."  I said "I know who Bill is, I can tell you where he is" and I could feel a hand reaching inside my body.  It went away and she said "For being so cooperative I give you this ring" and I could see something bounce across the ground infront of me.  I reached out for it and it was indeed a ring.  I slid it on my pinky finger and could feel its energy.  She slid back behind the dresser and everything went black.  When I woke up and looked around I realized that the room was the same shape as my bedroom and that sticking out from behind a plastic storage bin next to my bed was my hamper and clothes shaped EXACTLY like the old woman sticking out of the dresser.  It was all exactly the same and I was freaked out.  I rolled over and realized I had slept until 3PM and freaked out and got in the shower.  What a wierd AP.  I did some energy work and read my aura and there is  now a red and blue band on my pinky finger where the ring was........  Does anyone else think this is really freakin strange?

Vibrations yes, ear popping no.

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Never heard of bleach.  To be honest I thought it was more than a dream as well but I have developed a keen defensive instinct over the years.  I did have a strange extended semi-lucid dream about some guy mailing me a bomb but the bomb didnt work anyway....  It was either defective or a warning.  I also had a strange RTZ paralysis moment today where I woke up paralyzed face down and it felt like a feather duster went over my feet, I think it was one of my cats trying to contact me.

exactly.   When I came back from the first part I thought of Akira, when theres that big shockwave of energy and the people are torn apart in the hallway.... exactly the same.   I dont smoke anything to be honest... wellllllll... I do smoke some green once in a while but not enough to really impact my experiences.

I had 2 very interesting Lucid Dreams today.  The first started in a house with a close friend of mine and some random person.  It was going normal, I wasnt lucid yet but then i realized I didnt know one of them and didnt know where I was and I became lucid.  I asked the 2 what was going on and said hi to my friend.  For no reason they both leap on me and sprout vampire fangs.  They start talking back and forth in some strange language and keep trying to bite me.  I figured I could just whip them silly but every time I pushed them back they came back stronger.  It turned into a frenzied Matrix style battle, I used everything around me as a weapon, lamps, bottles, chairs, sofas.  I tried to force myself to wake up but I couldnt, I was so immersed in this scenario I couldnt even feel my body no matter how hard I tried.  My friend said "This is the end, you cant escape, we are in control.  Its time we took your soul, we've waited so long."  and I suddenly couldnt hold either of them back.  They were just too strong.  I went absolutely crazy with rage.  I KNEW this was total crap and knew I had the strength to crush them.  I inhaled deeply focusing on channeling energy and imagined pushing a giant wave of energy at them.  I screamed "NO I AM IN CONTROL OF MY WORLD!" and things slowed way down.  This huge amazing wave rippled through the air.  Everything distorted through the wave and when it hit the vampires it was like they had been hit by an invisible wrecking ball.  A mist of blood seemed to puff out from their pores and streams squirted from their eyes and ears and mouth.  As soon as they crumpled to the ground I reached through the dream to my body.  I had a brief bought of paralysis as I had forced myself out of a pretty deep sleep but awoke refreshed and invigorated from the battle.  I replayed it a few times in my head and though "That should be in a movie.......  Grin " and went back to bed.

This experience started as a dream as well but was a bit more twisted.  It started out as a movie trailer for a new disney movie.  There was a family of bears traveling down this big brick tunnel that didnt seem to end.  A voice went on to describe various aspects of the movie and I dont remember all of it but it got interesting when the bears gave up trying to find the end of the tunnel and suddenly the brick wall opened next to them and it exposed a hidden secret complex where the evil north pole elves had a base.  Apparently they where trying to plot the end of the world.  The bears where CGI and the elves where stop motion so it was an interesting combo.  That faded and I was in a library... well... a room full of books... it was pretty small but it was wall to wall books and I was there with my dad.  I became lucid and saw a guy crawling on the ground and collecting a series of books from the shelf.  I asked him how to get out.  He said there was one way but it sometimes released the Gorgans and their followers.  I was a bit perplexed... I asked him how often it happened.  He said it happened every once in a while and said I probably should find another way but he didnt know of one.  I thought he was just dumb or something and opened the door out.  Through the door I saw a guy who looked like some strange goblin cheiftan guy with a head dress and a big bone cane.  He screamed "ITS TIME!!!!!  TIME TO DOMINATE!  RELEASE THE GORGANS!" and I just shook my head at the absurdity of it all.  I asked my dad why this stuff always happens to me and he stared blankly at me.  The gorgans werent your usual medusas, these looked like giant purple squid with wierd eyes.  They left stuff that looked like purple jelly behind them and started pouring through the door.  I managed to dodge them but my dad didnt.  THey grabbed him and barged through the wall.  I followed the group through the wall into a large science lab setting.  I managed to avoid the gorgans as more came through the original door behind me and I lost the one who had my dad.  I followed the path up a large white stair case and a scientist woman was at the top of the stairs.  She was wearing a white uniform and asked me what I wanted.  I told her I just wanted to find my dad but since its just a dream I want to know whats up with this place.  She started to explain it to me but then I woke up.

Well arent we nit picky??    I consider experiences within F2 to be valid OBE's personally.  If mods want to move this they can feel free.

The other day I thought to myself "Maybe it would be nice if I didnt have these experiences anymore...."  Then I realized I would just be another bored person living a material life and I would probably want to die.  Besides, I think I am beyond the point of no return now anyhow! 

well a lucid dream yes.  Definitely in F2

I set intent to project after a long tiresome day of work and a far too long night of partying.  I was fairly sober at this point and figured I was probably just relaxed enough to seperate easily for once.  I layed down and in typical fashion blacked out.  I awoke in a two tiered circular futuristic interior setting.  There was an elevator on one end and two circular levels with a walkway that looked like an X in the middle.  A kid I knew from high school was pacing anxiously in the center of the X.  I walked out towards him and looked down from the second level.  It appeared to be something like a mall almost, there really werent any people but it seemed the place was lined with shops of some kind.  I asked the boy Chris what was going on and he said he was waiting for it to come, he had to wait and bring it to the people.  I asked him if he could be more specific and he backed away from me a bit and looked over my shoulder like something was behind me.  I turned slowly and saw something coming out of a shadow.  It was a rather large lion, a female, strutting towards us licking its lips.  I backed up and got out of its way.  By the look on Chris' face, that was what he was waiting for and he wasnt too happy to see it.  He walked slowly towards the lion with a look on his face as if he thought he was dead for sure and slowly extended his hand towards the lions neck.  The lion stood still.  Chris' hand touched the fur and the lion began to curl its neck to the left and bare its teeth.  Chris put the lion in a half head lock and tried to lead it towards the elevator.  I didnt know what to think of this at all really, I began to get closer and told Chris to be careful.

For a second I contemplated trying to go elsewhere or maybe get to F3 but I was somehow facinated by this scenario and decided to continue on.  The lion resisted Chris greatly and with a sudden burst of anger swatted quickly at his face.  The giant paw came within centimeters of his face and he pulled back suddenly and gave me a look like "CHRIST IM DEAD HELP" and was frozen solid in fear.  I slowly walked over and told Chris I would help but I needed him to help me too.  I ran my hand through the lions fur, it felt amazing and so real I can still feel it in my mind.  I petted the lion for a little bit in an effort to calm it down and it sort of just licked it lips and closed its eyes a bit.  I thought it was probably more calm and asked Chris what we should do.  I was half tempted to tell him it was a dream anyway and that he wasnt even real but usually that makes people freak out or dissapear or something so I bit my tongue.  Halfway through my sentence the tiger simply started walking by itself towards the elevator.  We both just sort of shrugged and followed it.  As we approached the elevator it opened and it wasnt an elevator at all.  It opened up into a large area with a 3 tiered concrete water fall/fountain and a few benches.  There also was a little alcove on a tier by the fountain.  The lion imediately leaped up a tier and layed on the concrete in the alcove and closed its eyes.  I turned and Chris was gone.  I looked back and suddenly there was 4 military looking people in grey uniforms standing about.  One of them was a very very attractive girl, probably 18 or 19 sitting on the third tier of the concrete fountain with her legs dangling over the edge.  I climbed the concrete and sat next to her.  I asked her about the lion and she said "Shes home...  in a way.  She has to come with us and meet somebody."

I told her, "You folks sure like to be very non-specific around here doncha!" and smiled at her.  She looked at the water flowing over the fountain and then looked straight ahead.  She got up and at the exact same time so did the lion.  All 4 of the people and the lion began walking towards a door.  It opened and it was a large concrete square room with what seemed to be a blast door on the other side.  A block with yellow painted squares on it was in the middle, it was about 8 feet by 8 feet.  The people fanned out and seemed to be taking cover.  I of course didnt care at all what happend and walked up to the doors.  I noticed that there was an opened area through the doors... a back way sort of, not easy to see.  I walked through it and came acrossed 4 stunningly beautiful asian women dressed in military clothing with huge guns.  I didnt know if I should run or what, just as I was going to turn away 3 of them turned towards me and just sort of looked at me indifferently as they chewed gum.  I reached into my pocket and pulled out 6 dollars.  I held it up and said "I got 6 bucks, what will that get me?  Huh ladies?"  and began laughing at the top of my lungs at how absurd this whole scenario was and how ridiculous I am and I couldnt handle it anymore.  They looked at me with a mixture of disgust and "Oh no you didnt" and said I "Just... just kidding.... im gonna go now" and walked back behind the wall into the square room.  I walked up to one of the original people.  He was a tall buff austrian looking guy, very arnoldesque with blonde hair and blue eyes.  I said to him, "Dude, the chicks are over there, I can show you the hole in the wall.  They got big guns though." and I pointed out the place in the wall.  The group moved towards the wall apprehensively and when they rounded the corner they walked right up to the women and the 8 people embraced like they havent seen each other in ages.

At this point all of what I had experienced made absolutely NO SENSE.  I didnt know how much longer I could take this and began to give up on my lucidity.  I began to analyze it all and some sense was made, it was so symbolic and ambiguous that I decided to give up on it all and let myself peice it together as I wrote this entry.  I began to lose lucidity and blacked out.  As per usual instead of waking up or continuing sleep I was thrown into a very creepy room.  It had a tiny little bed and there was an ice cream truck parked in the room.  A hallway led to a large area that was half inside half outside.  I felt like I was in a video game or something.  Everything was dark and forboding, lots of black and purple and lots of dingy colors.  I heard steps coming from behind the truck and out stepped 3 cabbage patch dolls.  One was a little girl, one was the swedish chef from the muppet show and one was a vampire.  I knew instantly that it was SO on.  I put my hand out and gave them the "Bring it" gesture as I began glancing around looking for possible weapons.  They began stepping towards me and as they did I began to shrink.  I went from 6' 2" to 3' tall.  Instead of being about 10 times the size of them I was now only 3 times the size.  The little girl looked at me and said "My mommy says souls taste good" and the vampire one said "Ready for a draining experience?!"  There was something about the way he said that that I got really freaked out, it was as if he knew I knew it was a dream or whatever and he was going to torment me, not as a dream character but as a real threat.  The swedish chef began to make strange gurgling sucking noises that scared the crap out of me and I began to stumble back in fear.  I knew I had to get under control and find something to defend myself with.  I toyed with the idea of trying to wake myself up, but I KNEW I would be in sleep paralysis upon waking and I didnt want to go from a nightmare into sleep paralysis.

I decided my only option was to get into the truck and run them over, or simply use it as a quick escape, possibly into a better experience.  I ran to the truck and hopped into the drivers seat.  My perspective went from first person to third ala the original Grand Theft Auto, top down and in very low quality graphics.  The dolls began to chase my and I swung the truck around and tried to nail them with it.  I managed to take out the swedish chef but couldnt hit the other two.  I started to feel myself waking up and felt relieved.  I awoke and when I tried to move I was paralyzed.  I thought "Fantastic... I will probably end up back in the stupid truck or who knows where"  and right as I finished that thought the little girl doll ran past my head and started doing laps around my bed at insane speeds.  She turned into a blur and started screaming " I cant find my way out!" over and over until it sounded like she was right next to my head.  Suddenly my body snapped free and I was glad to finally be awake.

wow sounds awesome!  Cant wait to see how this develops!