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#51
Welcome to Metaphysics! / psi wheel trouble
August 19, 2005, 02:46:41
Your right for the most part. The thing you call "you" doesn't actually do it, in the same scene you don't move your body. When you move, you nudge a request to your sub-conscious which relays that request to the central nervous system. Telekinesis is the same way (although I'm not to sure it involves the nervous system  :wink: ). So yes it is like a baby learning to move.

The difference is the baby is assisted by reflexes which display how it should go about it when it's just born, telekinesis you have to keep trying different ways of sending the request until you get it. Once you  get it once lock onto the feeling you get, if you memorize what I call the "TK reflex" you will be able to do it again later.

This may just be superstition but many people note that potassium, glucose, and some caffeine have positive effects on tk, just something to note.

There is a lot more I could explain, but you don't want to overwhelm yourself with information about it before you learn. Don't be like the nerd who tries to get good at sports by learning the rules, you will get all your experience though practice.

And remember this is so worth it, learning and getting good at TK is considered one of the requirement for going form beginner to intermediate.

Just to list a site or two you might be interested in...

//www.psipog.net

//www.thepsionguild.net

http://www.fourmilab.com/rpkp/experiments/

http://www.wintersteel.com/Telekinesis.html

http://www.psiarcade.com/garden/

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Contents.html

Be persistent, and good luck
#52
Unless you lived right next to it the reality fluctuations would get worse and worse on the way there, in the end your account would be useless. Besides if you have any opinion on the matter that's what you'd find, it would be really had to stay neutral while doing it.

Anyways, Welcome to the group :D
#53
Welcome to Metaphysics! / psi wheel trouble
August 18, 2005, 22:34:42
The problem is you haven't learned to do it, not that the wheels wrong. You do know it could take months to learn, right? If it was so easy everyone would be doing it.
#54
I can project from pretty much anywhere if I make the right conditions. If I have 6 hours of sleep and attempt to sleep in the next two hours I will always have a projection or at least lucid dream. I have done it camping, car rides, and other weird places but I usually just go back to my body after a few moments (I don't like the idea of leaving it in unfamiliar or moving condition).
Huh, I guess I might experiment with odd locations once I'm done with my current projects..hehe I think I'll try while in tree, that should be amusing.
#55
I somehow projected at school in math class, lol. Wasn't even tried or tranced when it happened just floated out. I went to some other classes and freaked people out later by knowing things  :lol: . Couldn't get it to happen like again but it was still cool.
#56
Just to add my thoughts if someone was extremely good at telekinesis they would probably have a much better chance, if it is possible.
#57
I've had a lot of fun doing this:
start playing a videogame (action/adventure is the best) and leave your character idle but don't pause it.  Astral projection and go into the screen without thinking about it, like were going into a picture for a VR experience. now...play the game!

You just have to be creative and experiment with things. Try learning something like telekinesis and attempt to move things from the RTZ. Do the card experiment or something like it, or go for High level projections, Try to go to API or something. If you just think about it I'm sure you'll come up with things to do.
#58
Just imagine them on fire and it will usually take care of it. Before I saw them for what they are I also went a little insane for a week or so, practically about to carve holy symbols all over me. A lot of people get that for a while. Most get over it but some people, like your friend here, never do.
#59
It sounds like you won't get much luck at the local bookstore.
#60
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Telekinesis
August 17, 2005, 03:00:51
You should get "Mastering Astral Projection" following the program is great for OBE and just to have a schedule for mind master and energy work. I got a lot better at Psychokinesis by the time I finished it. Increasing you focus just as important as increasing energy, remember lack of energy isn't usually a problem for something like a psiwheel. First you have to learn the TK reflex so you know how to do it.
#61
I noticed that and saw a few other posts hinting at it, I found it easier to try to project above the pyramid (Visualize it from a "above" view).   Do you mind me asking why you naturally appear like that on the astral?
#62
Welcome to Metaphysics! / telepathy
August 17, 2005, 01:29:54
....................:shock:
:oops:  I still don't understand   :oops:
nice rhyme I guess..

ummm? from what I think your saying when they talk they have trouble hearing you telepathically? that would just be because most people don't think much/ pay attention to their thoughts when their in the process of talking...and if they can't hear their own their not going to hear you good. If that's what your saying
#63
A "final fantasy" black mage suit minus the hat...and usually smokes (you know you addicted when you doing it out-of-body). I kinda hang out in the forest for the hell of it, nice critters.
#64
sorrrry! well I don't have an answer but I had a kinda similar experience to yours near the end of mine...but a little more messed up http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20279

btw maybe it's just me but I usually don't bother with "Wall of text" topics.
#65
A few day ago I was going to bed and something very weird happened. I suddenly projected with vibrations 10X what they normally are for me after lying down for less then 2 minutes.  

I ended up in a twisted version of my house barely able to control myself and after blasting through the ceiling I blacked out. What seemed like 20 seconds later I regained conciseness in another room but it was messed up with "evil" writings on the walls. I lost control, jumped up and grabbed a bar that suddenly appeared and kicked the walls trying to get out but they were all rubbery and bended with my kick.

After getting though I charged for my body and was lying down where it was but didn't go into it. I got up, my vision was a little static and noises were everywhere I floated a little forward, looked a something I knew wasn't there and heard screaming all the sudden and blacked out again.

I repeated variations of the above scenario trying to get in my body 8 times, each one I thought I succeeded until I finally got up for real, only 4 minutes had passed when it felt like 20.

This made no scene at all. I couldn't control my self and reality got warp insanely right as I left. Anyone have any idea what could have cause this screwed up experience?
#66
Schizophrenia is shown to be caused by misfiring nerves, or something like that (forgot terminology).
#67
Welcome to Magic! / I'm new
August 16, 2005, 01:19:10
For meditation lying down is usually considered a poor position. Sitting on the floor with legs crossed and back straight is good to start off. Ten minutes at a time is fine if your just starting. If you get the book "Mastering Astral Projection in 90 Days" completing it will not just help with projection but also meditation, bettering your energy body, and generally helping you get into the swing of things, without overwhelming you with too much  information at a time. Helped me a lot with Psychokinesis and the like.

As for the wind control, if you start with it you probably won't get to very good results but from what I've seen many people get something first try.

If you want to try it do this: Go into an open area and clear your thoughts, become calm and indifferent. feel yourself dissolving into air and be aware of the air around you, feel like you are a part of it. Then make the expanded air part of you blow past yourself, this usually gets a small breeze

Try this to: Do the above to where you feel your self as wind then feel string attached to your hand that connects far away with the winds. Raise your hands and feel it pulling the wind, this should increase any existing wind if done right.

Really if you want fast results look up psiballs in the articles here: //www.psipog.net . It's basic energy manipulation, Not really magick but a least it's something.
#68
I think you have better luck reaching him here: http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewforum.php?f=3

please note he is going to workshops across the US and Canada and doesn't have Internet access very often
#69
I just noticed something. I live in a valley so my cellphone reception usually bounces between zero bars and three, when I do energy work with it near by it always jumps to four or five. sweet  :) .
#70
Welcome to Dreams! / can't figure this one out
August 15, 2005, 20:23:25
I had those before I learned Psychokinesis. I've noticed using abilities like that in dreams help you actually use them. Try to recreate the scenario in a lucid dream and pay extremely close attention, this will help you if you train for telekinesis regularly.
As for the "asking the object to move thing" that is ok advice if you take it the right way. You don't actually ask it to move but if you try too hard to move it yourself you won't get good results. Many people like the method of thinking about it as letting the object move. you have to concentrate, but too much concentration and effort on what your doing will just put you in a hypnotic state. It's not how hard you try it's how you do it.
#71
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / >.< my eyes
August 15, 2005, 19:12:42
Eye pillows? Ok I'll go figure out they are and get some, thanks.
#72
Welcome to Metaphysics! / telepathy
August 15, 2005, 19:00:27
confusing post I can't find the question...are you saying your confusing what they're saying and what they're thinking?
#73
>.< I noticed some other topics you made without mentioning it had people asking if you were on acid. that's what I'm talking about you made a small druggy reputation for yourself.
#74
Welcome to Magic! / Question on who to summon.
August 14, 2005, 20:58:42
Angelic...never tried one of those, cool. So if I have a good question it won't get too angry at me?
#75
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / >.< my eyes
August 14, 2005, 20:30:01
Recently when I try to project my eyes open themselves when I relax. I can stop it with tensing,but that makes it really hard. Does this happen to anyone else and if so how do I help it?