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Last night I went to bed, and I started Boxed Nirvana. As the sound played, I started relaxing from my feet up to my face.(I have a problem relaxing my face). So I got these light vibrations after a minute or two.. And I tried to remain calm and not to fall asleep. At one point I sensed these very strong vibrations, and they vanished after a moment. I know these kind of vibrations from before, because some time ago I used to wake up in this strong vibrational state and separation from that state is easy.. But these vibes ended after a second.. So I remained in position. Then I felt swinging. This swinging was very "real", like someone really swigged my body... Then I got excited or afraid (i don't know why would I be afraid when I know that nothing can happen to me..). And my heart started to beat REALLY hard. Like it was going to jump out my chest. I tried to remain calm but this hard beating and swinging (same time) didn't vanish. Then I stopped the attempt. I put my arm to my chest and I really sensed this hard beating, it was physical, not mental. So what caused this very very hard heartbeat? Can I get heart attack? What do you suggest me?

P.S. I think these hard vibrations occurred when Boxed Nirvana played louder sound, I mean that it louder\higher sound actually induced this vibration.

It depends on the part of your consciousness continuum you choose to change focus to. If you end up in F2oC, that is an area of concsiousness set aside for just yourself.

So F1oC is actually 'part' of collective consciousness? The physical reality is same for all...

Thank you very much Ben K.

As to your next question, well im not exactly sure what you mean.

Can F3oC and F4oC exist without F1oC and F2oC? I connected reincarnation with that because it is only way to rebuild F1oC and F2oC. But on the other hand it is meaingless....

I'm curious about phasing, so I got a few questions for you all.

* I understand that we do not actually leave the body during "astral projection" but traveling within our selves, we phase into another focus of consciousness. So is that our individual consciousness or collective one? (You know this concept that we all belong to *one* (collective) consciousness, and that our individual one doesn't really exists...)

* My next question is about reincarnation and phasing. So all 4 Focuses oC (Frank's model) interact with each other. So when someone die he is actually going to this Transition area. That's OK. But can F3oC and F4oC exist alone without F1oC and F2oC? Is reincarnation possible only to rebuild these focuses? I heard that people do regression ant that's why I asked this.
But on the other hand it would be meaningless that reincarnation happens forever.

You've got to focus away from your body.

I was reading about phasing and Frank says that we should focus on inside.. Noticing.. I will try that tonite. And I wasn't focusing on to my face, but when I was countin (or focusing on to my limbs or vibrations, or smth) I noticed that my face isnt relaxed so I gotta relax it.

But beyond Deep Somnambulism the physical body wont move even if you think to allow it to move.

So this somnabulism is actually trance?

First, the 'falling down' sensations are trance.

But I feel this only when I focus on my body. When I focus on it, I can feel that it is heavier and I get this falling sensation.

I think what is troubling me the most is the lack of a technique to blank the mind of all thought..

same here...
That ping pong ball I won't try for now. First I'm going to finish downloading Frank's (hypnotist) CD. Maybe that'll help me...

Ok thanks guys.
But what concerns me is that I *know* that I'm not in trance. What I meant to say is that I'm too aware. I said before that I can move my face like in every day life. Is this normal? I thought that when we are in trance that we are paralised? So I can't exit the body while I can do all this things with my face? And one more question. Can I get to trance that fast (15-20mins)?

Last night I went to sleep, and at first I listened to Boxed Nirvana. So at first I relaxed as much as I could, and I was counting to 40 (to clear my mind). Inhale 1, Exhale, Inhale 2, Exhale..... Next I did, I just lied down *trying* to not to think but thoughts were flooding my mind :redface: . But that didn't stopped me. I was lying down relaxed. After a while I felt vibrations. They were weak, but I could feel it in my arms and my legs, but not in my stomach nor head\neck. And I wasn't in trance at all! I could open my eyes or shrink (I don't know proper word, but I think you'd understand) face. So I just lied about half an hour and nothing... Just these "vibrations"..
So does anyone have any tip for me. For clearing my mind and or what to do when achieve these vibrations? Oh, almost forgot.. when I use these "exercises" I mentally feel falling (if you know what I mean).. Is this helpful?

And I have very often this vibration-like feeling in one of my legs. Last night it was in my right leg. While I was feeling these vibes in my limbs, this vibration-like feeling just faded in on my right leg. And fading was ping-pong like (fade in, fade out).... What is this? Is this usual?

It took me about 6 months before I finally "got out". And that was when I gave up.

heh, my first spontaneous OBE was the very same night I heard for it... I guess I was obsessed...

Once, when my eyes were closed, and I knew I was awake, I saw this ghostly head jump right out at me, and it scared me, that I opened my eyes with my heart pounding.

Once I saw a face of a unknown baby, and sometimes I see faces of some people.. This happens either I try to project or to fall asleep... What does this mean?

if it occured while you practicing OBEs, hearing sounds that are not there are a good sign.

Sounds while practicing OBE are not as high as these (high frequency). Sounds while OBEing are usually noices, water... One time, while I was practicing OBE, I clearly heard some music playing, although there was no music in "real" world... Funny..

Hi Astral, here is a link to a site that has a list of all of the numbers, and their meanings, if anything, it is interesting.

Thanks

It made me sleepy. Sooo sleepy...

Try to project now

Dont know the word in english but you always hear a sharp annoying sound.

It is not always, but sometimes wihtout a reason that sound start and stop after half-and hour or maybe sooner..

Me too...

Interesting thing happened to me last night. I went to bed and I start listening to some music. I just lied down and thinking of something while listening. At some point I felt I was "sunk" into darkness, I scared and I blench. I looked at my phone, it was 03:03.... Interesting...

I stopped reading about here.

Same here

Hm.. I have 56k connection so it will take long to download that audio
If u have txt version, could u post it, because of users like me?

Same thing happened to me. I couldn't open my eyelids and when I tryed really hard (I was standing in the middle of the room, projected) my physical eyes were open..

I believe that Akashic Records are beyond F3oC (F4oC)....

I'm going to show this to my math teacher

heh me too  :p

Everytime I see the numbers, I make a wish.

Heh, I will try to do that next time I see those numbers..  

Death doesn't exist...

http://www.niksicgrad.com/astral/me.jpg
http://www.niksicgrad.com/astral/ja.jpg

I had the same thing the entire day after a De La Soul concert.

sound is very like when you listen to high volume music for some time. But I get it during normal day activities or while noticing...