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Many thanks to Covelo for all your effort in all of this. You might like to consider setting up a website for this, the benefits would be able to reach a far wider audience, having a website vs a single forum thread.

The Elohim, being the creators of Humanity and this quadrant of the physical universe, are certainly more than qualilfied to advise on non-personal questions of any nature (though for scientific questions, the person channeling might need to have scientific background for the Elohim's communications to be expressed effectively).

However, for those of you who are hoping to ask questions of a personal nature (eg. "What is the significance of the strange dream I had on 14 Nov 2004?", or for advice regarding your personal relationship with a loved one, including underlying karma across lifetimes, etc), it may not be so appropriate to be asking this particular channel at this time, because these are public channelings intended to reach out to everyone, not personal or private channelings.

For those who have recognized the potential helpfulness of channeling, when used appropriately, from Covelo and his friend's channeling of the Elohim, and would further like to ask questions of a personal nature, there is, from personal experience, a completely reliable channel for this : The Hilarion Channeling.

[Afterlife Knowledge Forum]

I had made the following post on the Afterlife Knowledge Forum here :

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Hi DocM,

I didn't mention your link Kyo to the space aliens inserting sinus devices to cause aging because I don't know what to say.  That person's fear is certainly false and unjustified.  A malignant alien intelligence could find many easier ways to kill off large segments of the population than inserting sinus based devices - so even under the light of reason, this makes no sense.

That post, was used as an example to illustrate the fearful thosenes (thoughts, sentiments, energies) behind it; it is the fear that is the critical problem here, regardless of the ideas (and the accuracy of), that it is projected upon.

For instance, in certain posts, you may come across people that are deeply troubled by ideas that their 'guides', 'helpers', or 'guardian angel' (or for some, even their 'higher self', 'Disc'/'Disk', etc) are unloving, disapproving or even hateful of themselves (the individuals making the posts), sending them hateful, reproachful, scolding telepathic messages regularly, and other such ideas.

Or, in other posts, ideas surrounding intrusion issues are similarly fraught with fear and misunderstanding, whether they be 'black magic attacks', 'demonic possession', 'alien abductions or implantation', etc.

It is easy to say (as many did, on the forums such posts were made on) that these are foolish, unjustified and paranoid ideas. But to the suffering individual entrapped and deranged by the fear behind these ideas, their suffering and pain is palpable and pitiful indeed. Take a look on forums such as the Astral Pulse - the number of such individuals suffering from these fears are 'frightfully' large, and oh so pitiful.

Comparing to the post on Simpo's forum (hyperlinked on my original post), it is easy to see that a similar principle, a similar fear is operating there. A corruptive fear based on false ideas, or False Evidence Appearing as Real.

It is this fear which is the real problem here, rather than the 'aliens' or 'demons' or 'implantations' or 'evil guides' or 'big bad guardian angels' or 'disapproving higher selves', or other such false ideas, that the fear is projected upon.

There is normal fear, associated with our reality and abnormal fear that spirals in our mind and spirit.  All of us know this firsthand.  Of course, the "normal fear,"  running into a great white shark while swimming, may temporarily activate epinephrine in the physical world.  If the response is brief, it may serve some transient benefit.  You can claim that this normal flight or fight response is misguided and that we should not allow it if we are truly enlightened, but I might disagree as my adrenaline kicked in swimming away from the shark.

The secretion of the hormone adrenaline (also called epinephrine) by the adrenal glands (situated above or 'epi', the kidneys or 'nephros'), is indeed a biological or physiological response to what is perceived or understood by the brain as a life-threatening situation, hence it is known as a 'fight or flight' hormonal response.

The adrenaline/epinephrine, then activates the rapid conversion of glycogen to glucose in muscle cells and in the liver (to increase overall blood glucose levels), dilating aterioles in leg muscles (in preparation to flee), constricts the arterioles near the surface of skin to conserve and redirect blood resources (hence causing the pale face), dilates pupils (allowing one to see thus react better in the dark), and increases heart rate (perhaps the most easily noticed effect for the individual) to support the anticipated muscular activities, for 'fighting' or 'fleeing'.

It might seem as you say, that therefore, in a situation wherein the secretion of adrenaline/epinephrine saves one's life by boosting the body's readiness and capacity to flee from a threat, such as a great white shark, that therefore the 'fear' in that situation might be regardless as useful.

Instead, recognize (as you do, DocM) that there is an important difference between 'fear' as a primordial survival instinct of the biological body, versus 'fear' that is a psychological, emotional and consciential/spiritual darkness born out of false ideas, confusion and misconception.

As physically incarnate or intraphysical human beings, it is all to easy to confuse or equate the two. This is because a natural (indeed intended) consequence of the consciousness or soul, incarnating into a physical body, is that the biochemical reactions of the brain and body, are closely tied in to the pyschological emotions of the incarnated consciousness or awareness. To some extent then, during a biological incarnation, each influences the other. This is the basis for the (flawed) argument held by some so-called scientists, that 'love' is nothing more than 'chemicals or nerve impulses in the brain'.

Yourself, DocM, have recognized and differentiated between the two by calling them 'normal fear' and 'abnormal fear'. That is one way to label them. I find that taking the word 'fear' as an acronym for 'False Evidence Appearing as Real', is far more helpful, when speaking in the context of psychological, consciential or spiritual issues; because in these contexts, we are speaking of a type of darkness (literally seen as such, by clairvoyant sight) or lack-of-light, lack-of-understanding, lack-of-clarity, caused by false ideas appearing as real (which is what you have labelled as 'abnormal fear').

Hence, we (DocM and myself) certainly agree that these are two completely separate phenomena, which is why I (and many others), have found it more helpful to differentiate them totally, by calling it False Evidence Appearing as Real; by this term not referring to the biological survival response as to the body, but to the psychological/emotional/consciential as to the consciousness or awareness. These must never be misconstrued as being equal, which might otherwise seem to justify that fear (the False Evidence Appearing as Real), is a worthy emotion.

It is not, and in a spiritual context, the fear (or darkness) is the opposite of love (or light), of clarity, of understanding. And as such, it is never truly helpful to the consciousness or soul.

A common misconception leading to the criticism of Byron Katie's Clarification methodology, is in regards to the step in which you no longer fear, or hate, or get angry (the basis of hate and anger is *always* fear, or false evidence appearing as real), at the situation which you have identified as the problem. Instead, you love (ie. accept) it.

Critics argue, "If the situation is of a social injustice, an act of terorrism, or a paedophilic rape; we *should* get angry and we *should* hate the perpetrators, it is *wrong* to love the situation, that would be equivalent to condoning the wrongdoing!"

There are a number of errors here. Let's look at this more closely.

The 'wrongdoing', is to be more correctly termed, the anti-cosmoethical action, itself always born out of anger, hatred, fear, or false ideas appearing as real. The terrorist, the abuser, the rapist, are individuals whose psyche, awareness, mind, consciousnesses and souls, have been warped by darkness, of anger, of hatred, of fear. Violence begets more violence; fear begets more fear.

The anger and fear that many have as a response to such 'atrocities', while born out of compassion (the higher or more spiritually evolved quality) and love, is to be distinguished as distinct and unnecessary, unhelpful even (to the compassion and love). Because it is more actually a result of false ideas appearing as real, the false idea of hopelessness, or helplessness, or victimhood, of more innocents being hurt, being raped, being violated, being abused, being unloved, and so on.

These false ideas, are always the true basis of fear, anger and hatred. But people often mistake these emotions of darkness as a natural association of love and compassion. This is only the (unnecessary) case when the consciousness, or the species or race as a whole, whilst intraphysical or incarnated, is not yet conscientially prepared to understand the underlying principles clearly.

Loving the situation, which is accepting it, which is coming to terms with it, which is being able to understand the situation with clarity, is the first step to improving the situation. This does *not* imply the condoning (the other, inaccurate idea of 'passive acceptance') of the situation, which is certainly far from the most helpful or cosmoethical scenario possible. That which the guides & helpers wish to work towards.

Loving and compassion, means to love, to care for, the individuals concerned, and to assist or help those most in need of this. Far from condoning the misguided, unhelpful or anti-cosmoethical action, to be loving means to first accept (ie. loving or compassionate acceptance) and understand the situation as it is, through the eyes of compassion, without the fearful implications or other false, limting ideas or assumptions, and to see what is the most helpful, the most compassionate, the most loving, the most cosmoethical action to be taken in such a situation, in order to most effectively help all involved, particularly those most in need of assistance, such as the injured, the abused, the 'victims' of the situation.

To reiterate once again, for this is very important to understand, when one observes an atrocity, and one is able to be loving, (even to say, "I am able to love or compassionately understand the situation that I once hated or feared"), it is not at all condoning the unloving or anticosmoethical action, the 'atrocity'; it is in fact to be compassionate and loving to all individuals involved; to love is to accept, understand, recognize, respect and be compassionate for, not only the people involved, but as well the opportunities now present to reach out, to assist, to take cosmoethical action to *help* the ones who need help, in the most loving, effective, helpful way possible.

Of course, with the case of the limited intraphysical human awareness, it is frequently the case of "the heart is compassionate and willing, but the mind is not sure how to help". This is where the guides & helpers come in, or to be precise, this underscores the importance of a helpful, positive, collegial and collaborative, active relationship that must be developed between every intraphysical human, and the guides & helpers (both the individual's personal guides & helpers; as well as the generic or universalistic guide & helpers of all types that are available to all beings at all times, including every intraphysical human willing to work with this).

Fear can be conquered in many ways.  I find calling it "false evidence appearing real," not at all very comforting.  What is better is to look with a tranquil mind at the real situation.  Gather facts and knowledge.  Then the fear must be cleansed by embracing the feared object or projecting its opposite...

Which is basically pretty close to what I've been saying, or that which is (from my perspective) most helpfully understood by the acronym of fear as False Evidence Appearing as Real.

However, I wish to use this opportunity to point out, that it is always wise to avoid the trap of dogma that have befallen many religions. That is to say, to recognize that if something which someone says does not feel comfortable, or agreeable, or 'right', it is because the ideas that you have understood, translated or interpreted from the other persons' words, are indeed not correct for you. That is to say, not necessarily what the other person is intending to say, but what you took from his words, is certainly not correct or helpful for you to adopt or use. That is to say, it (the ideas perceived or interpreted) is counter-intuitive for you, or against the wisdom of your higher self.

I have found that meditation and conviction in my positive beliefs were helpful, as well as embracing the object of my fear and replacing it with a constructive positive, and desired end.

As with other paranoid beliefs, this must be confronted as not being based in reality.  The person may try other techniques, however I believe that embracing and visualizing the opposite of one's fear (or one's stated desire in the physical world as being manifest), and meditation can do wonders.  It did for me.

Thusly in conclusion, I thank you (DocM) for your willingness and positive intention in the sharing of your views, and suggest that everyone, all readers of this thread, including you (DocM) and myself, would do well to honour, respect or love what is within yourself, ie. what is correct for you, as you understand it. In other words, continue the most helpful view as you have known, understood, or expressed; if it works for you, it is good or correct for you. And not be unduly influenced by the ideas of others, the messages, communications or even channelings (no matter who the purported entity is said to be) of others.

For instance, I for one am most happy to state that, for the most part, in regards to the issue of the 'demonic', due to the further clarification and evolution of my understanding and perspective of this subject, has now evolved to be quite identical with that of Dr Dave_a_mbs. In the past I had perhaps been overly cautious, perhaps out of concern for the those who might not fully understand the subject or shrug it off with nonchalance, but now I indeed see that *essentially*, Dr Dave_a_mbs was, and is, completely correct as the to true *nature* of the beings known as 'demonic'.

He was correct to speak or share his view at the time, as I was (also correct) to speak and share mine at the time; it is important to first accept (ie. understand clearly and through compassion) one's own perspective, nature or choice, before any clear, helpful evolution of ideas, perspectives and choices, can be made or progressed. This is indeed applicable across a wide gamut of subjects, including social issues such as religion, politics, sexuality, science and philosophy.

And now, it is correct, important and useful, for you (DocM), for myself, for Spitfire, for Chumley, and for everyone else here on this forum, and on other forums, on the internet, or in whatever context, to clearly and consciously, share their understanding, their perspective, their willingness and their love, in any best way that they can. Even if the ideas or views might appear to be conflicting, that is ok. More than ok, it is beautiful, if seen through the eyes of love.


Many thanks again to DocM, to Dr Dave_a_mbs, to Byron Katie, to Hilarion, and to all.

Kyo

Dear All,

Christmas is soon approaching, and in the spirit of giving and charity, I would like to take this opportunity to invite those interested, to join me in making a humble contribution towards the betterment of the world.

Most individuals very much wish to help, but may not always be aware of the most appropriate venues or means for doing this. I have carefully searched out and confirmed the trustworthiness of three very excellent international charitable organizations that are making a very important difference on the planet.

Doctors Without Borders - A Worldwide Humanitarian Medical Aid Agency
USA Donors - http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/
International Donors - http://www.msf.org/unitedkingdom/

Mercy Corps - A Nonprofit Organization that Aims to Alleviate Suffering, Poverty and Oppression
http://www.mercycorps.org/

The World Food Programme - The United Nations Frontline Agency Mandated to Combat Global Hunger
http://www.wfp.org/english/


A Blessed Christmas to all.

The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005) is a movie on demonic possession.

Links to the trailer, and my comments, here :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1126502283/0#0

[so long as you maximize your current present existence and incarnation to the best of your efforts and capacity, you have (in a very *real* way) the capacity and power to alter your Soul's piture, (and hence) compulsorily including (the consciential significances of, and lessons from) your past lives and (the natural consequent details of, nature and destiny of) your future lives. All of this, right now, in the present. And this you have the power to do, always.]

Originally from the discussion thread, "Do you believe some animal are humans incarnated?" :

Interestingly, I have had several instances in which people reported being reincarnated out of temporal sequence, so the report might be literally valid after all. That's why I thought it worth sharing. For example, a person might report one life in the 1800's, the next in the 1200's, then next in 1700's or 1900's whatever.  This is also uncommon.

One other thought, though, is that when I run a session, after going through a death sequence, and the person is reporting experiences in the astral, I often tell people to hold their place in the astral, so I can send them to use various resources in that state. It is possible that the regression backwards to become a rabbit was of this type, a sidetrip occurring by displacement of the viewpoint to a prior event long past, while she remained otherwise on the main forward path, perhaps in some kind of psychic limbo, which is kinda what Kardec was suggesting. Thus this might have been either an actual digression to being a rabbit, or a return to a prior incarnation not otherwise recalled. dave

Thanks Dave, for bringing up this topic for discussion, and for your sharing regarding this phenomenon. Our observation and perspective of this is in agreement with your own understanding, and we merely wish to briefly add to this.

Certainly a most fascinating topic, and one that beautifully demonstrates the temporally transcendant nature of the human soul. This is not 'time travel' per se, or at least not in the way some might misunderstand (the concepts of time and travel across it).

First, let us begin with a simplified example of reincarnation seemingly non-linear in the temporal sense. During past life regression, a soul first recalls a past life during 500 BC, then the next incarnation (recalled in sequence) takes place in 1000 AD, and then the next incarnation (recalled in sequence) after that takes place during the time of Christ.

And yet, clearly, the sequence is not random, but meaningful. This is the part which some find disturbing, because it appears to imply time travel across the normal temporal sequence of the physical universe, which is physically illogical and impossible (within a single space-time continuum reality, without crossing over to alternate universes, which incidentally and naturally, are infinite in number).

Now, in order to explain the phenomon on several different levels (or aspects), we shall use a number of simplified analogies.

A person applies for a University course. Due to his unique subject combination (ie. stories of the soul), and the available timetable schedules of the University (ie. dense physical opportunities), he may experience the following :
 
 
Semester 1

Calculus I
Genetics II
Quantum Physics I


Semester 2

Calculus III
Genetics I
Quantum Physics IV


Semester 3

Calculus IV
Genetics III
Quantum Physics II


Semester 4

Calculus II
Genetics IV
Quantum Physics III


Of course, such 'jumping across' modules are not always possible, as many modules have modular prerequisites, though not necessarily all, nor always compulsory. And yet, there is meaningful sequence, recognized subconsiously by the student throughout, and also upon graduation (ie. by the higher self who experiences across all incarnations), to the labelling of the modules as I, II, III and IV (ie. progression of learning experiences of a mult-faceted story)


Another analogy (for the more computer technology inclined), would be the way data is stored on a harddisk. A certain file (ie. stories of the soul), would be chopped up into many pieces and stored across the harddisk. When the Operating System (OS) (ie. higher self) accesses these bits and pieces of data, it will assemble them not in chronological [ie. temporal) order in which these were stored (ie. experienced) on the harddisk (ie. dense physical), but rather assembled and used in the order of meaninful sequence as per the underlying intention of the OS (ie. higher self) which chose to spread it out across the harddisk in the first place.

 
Thus, during regression, as well as from the perspective of the higher self (who exists and operates not only within time, but across it), the person would recall the sequence of past lives in the most didactically / pedagogically / spiritually meaningful sequence, with regards to specific issues or 'stories of the soul', rather than in the (much less meaningful) temporal sequence.


The next aspect we wish to emphasize as being important to understand, is the nature of the soul and its relationship with the nature of time. The soul certainly does travel across time, but *not* in the physical sense, ie. not 'against' the natural temporal sequence of the physical space-time continuum, as conceptualized by hollywood movies such as "Back to the Future", or the more recent "Star Trek Enterprise" TV series, etc.

(Such time travel technologies *do* indeed exist, and are studied and developed extensively by certain extraterrestrial civlizations who specialize in this complex science, but this entails crossing space-time continuums into what are known as 'alternate universes', and is quite a separate topic from the temporally transcendent nature of the soul we are speaking of here).

The hypnotherapist, especially those who correctly utilize Past Life Therapy (PLT), Life-Between-Life (LBL) regressions, Spirit Releasement Therapy (PLT) for the maximum benefit of their subjects, will better understand how the consciousness of the soul, travels across time. This is itself, demonstrated by regression. We do not refer to simply passive recall of events, but indeed, an active learning, healing and progression during these regressions.

For instance, regressing out of body to a past life in which a traumatic incident occurred, the consciousness of the past, experiencing the full blast of the trauma, and not having the post-experience wisdom of the present day consciousness, might be severely agonized and fragmented. Going back (extraphysically) to the past, the present day consciousness might share its wisdom (and support and love), in terms of the fuller picture, why the experience occurred, what it really meant, the higher perspective, with the consciousness of the past, it's own past life self. The healing which takes place, including reintegration of energies, verily occurs across time.

In other words, the soul does not travel against time in the physical, to be precise, the soul travels across time *within* itself (its multi-dimensional and trans-temporal self).

Because the past life You, the present life You, the future You; they are *all* YOU (the one same YOU). And thusly, not only can You travel across time, you certainly DO! (ie. by virture of your simultaneous existence across time!).

Now, you don't need hypnosis to travel across time, you can (and already often) do this, travelling across time in your consciousness, as you recall the past, imagine and connect with the future, etc. However, for the majority of intraphysical humans, due to lack of public eduation on the multi-dimensional and multi-temporal nature of reality and of the human soul, most people do not utilize this to their benefit, nor (utilize this understanding) anywhere near their own potential for karmic learning and spiritual evolution, across all their issues.

Hence, for the reader who has now firmly decided to maximize his/her evolution and existential potential (including completion of current incarnation's existential program)

Note, in addition, that due to the trans-temporal capacities and flexibilities of the soul, you need not worry that, "What if my current lifetime is meant to 'suffer' the consequences of a 'future' lifetime not yet lived, thanks a bunch, higher self!", which is of course nonsense (and for many reasons). That is to say, the greater overall picture, the greater trans-temporal and multi-incarnational jigsaw of the higher self or Soul's mosaic picture, is subject to flexible input from each and all of it's incarnations across time; to be precise, the consciousness can experience, and benefit from, across any of the incarnations across time, and alter the greater Soul mosaic picture, at any time, because the Soul exists simultaneously across time. It transcends time.

That is to say, and here is the great important lesson, that so long as you maximize your current present existence and incarnation to the best of your efforts and capacity, you have (in a very *real* way) the capacity and power to alter your Soul's piture, (and hence) compulsorily including (the consciential significances of, and lessons from) your past lives and (the natural consequent details of, nature and destiny of) your future lives. All of this, right now, in the present. And this you have the power to do, always.

This communication above, is of incredible importance, as it has the power to turn around or transform all manner of tragic energies from past lives (eg. such as the traumatic pain of cruelly forced separation from a loved one in a past life, etc), into no less than profound enlightenments in the present, that not only dramatically shifts the energies of the past from the darkness into the light, but as well powerfully alter the karma for this issue and the future consequences in relation to the relationship or issue.


At this point in the discussion, in which we now come to a close, there are several highly relevant related subject areas for the interested reader to peruse, if he/she/you have not already done so.


Byron Katie's Inquiry Process (turning around trauma from the past and present, greatly accelerating karmic growth, and CLEARING the way for the future) :

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm#ByronKatie



Hilarion Reading (ask Hilarion for advice and illumination on your karmic issues, that express themselves across lifetimes, from their physical 'origin' in past lives, to their expression in the present lifetime, how to most effectively work with them, etc) :

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm#Hilarion
   
 
 
Heart.Of.God meditation (on connecting with yourself across lifetimes with Love, on transcending Time with Love, etc) :

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/MeaningOfGod.htm
 
 
 
Hilarion on Deja Vu (on working consciously and powerfully with the 'leap across time' that is DejaVu, to maximize existential potential and evolution; reaching back in time to a past self hence building a bridge across time and allowing your future self to reach back in time to your present) :

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/sum02.html#DejaVu

 
 
Charles Breaux's "The Way of Karma" (case studies of past lives of a dozen different individuals; the narrative is thematically and karmically lucid, and beautifully illustrates not only 'temporally non-linear reincarnation', but also the trans-temporal nature of the soul as it experiences itself across lifetimes) :

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/WayOfKarma/index.htm

From this thread on the Afterlife Knowledge forum :

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There is no 'right' or 'wrong', only a sharing of perspectives. The phrase 'incorrect', that you see below, is then only a matter of relativity, ie. the concept is incorrect *as seen from the perspective* of the author, ie. whoever is saying "that idea is incorrect or inaccurate from our observation" in any discussion. Thusly, the opinions expressed herein do not necessarily bear any correlation to the 'correctness' of the reader's own ideas. That is for *only* the reader to determine for him/herself. No one else can tell you what is right or wrong. You must decide that for yourself, based on your free will and choice of perspective.

As we progress spiritually we evolve further and further and get higher and higher closer to God.

Incorrect, or to be precise, statement is based on misconception on the matter. All souls are equally close to God.

We do eventually all become one.

Incorrect, or to be precise, statement is based on misconception on the matter. You've never left the One.

when the soul has reached the highest stage of evolvement sometimes will choose to go back to God.

Incorrect, or to be precise, statement is based on misconception on the matter. There is no 'highest stage of evolution', evolution is endless. Futhermore, the higher the evolutionary level, the more the soul realizes he/she/it has never left God.

At this point we can merge with God and i assume we lose our personality, or much rather join up with other personalities but i don't know about our conciousnesS? Maybe we lose this i don't know but i don't see how millions can share one "space".

Incorrect, or to be precise, statement is based on misconception on the matter. 'Merging' of consciousnesses (not with 'God', who is all consciousnesses simultaneously), whether small scale (ie. individual, oversoul groups, etc) or large scale (ie. entire civilizations, across races, worlds, dimensions, universes, etc), do not entail any loss of personality or individuality, but rather the creation (to be precise, *realization*) of a greater interconnectivity, collectivity or universality, in addition to the personalities and individuality (that always existed and always will, as natural expression of the greater whole).

This ('merging' of consciousnesses, not 'with God') cannot be properly understood from the perspective of the individual who fears (False Evidence Appearing as Real) losing its individuality, but can only be understood (in Love) by the Collective (ie. OverSoul) who realizes it is also the individual(s), was always (all) the individual(s), and will always be (all) the individuals.


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The following two threads of mine (Kyo) are relevant to the above discussion, and perusal of the ideas communicated therein may be useful to the interested reader :


Reincarnation, Evolution and Serenissimus
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1113602332

Incarnations & OverSouls (AFK Forum discussion)
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1113196507

Another beautiful sharing from Alysia, here...
http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-afterlife-knowledge/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=afterlife_knowledge;action=display;num=1126069939


As for animal-human question, there is only confusion about this, when one has preconceived ideas or limiting beliefs about the nature of souls, that animals are distinct from humans, and so on.

Once you understand that all beings are simply consciousnesses manifested from God, essentially the same, but manifesting as, throughout and across, many many levels, planets, kingdoms and races, then there is little difficulty in appreciating that this being manifested to you in one form, but incarnated as another.

The mistake many intraphysical consciousness (ie. physically incarnated humans) make, is to trap themselves with preconceived notions and limiting beliefs about reality around them. Once you open your eyes and heart to all possibilities, all possibilities in turn open up to you.

But for some individuals who are still curious about whether humans habitually incarnate as animals, or vice-versa, then, from observation, it is as Alysia has described : the general evoultionary trend is from plant kingdom to animal kingdom to human (and subsequently from human to Serenissimus, etc).

See my post on Astral Pulse here, on the topic of evolving souls progressing from animal incarnations to human incarnations :
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18893


And for those who ask is it possible for human souls to 'regress' back to animal souls? Again as Alysia has already mentioned, it is usually not productive and helpful (and thus does not usually occur) for the soul who has already begun to involve itself karmically and conscientially in one kingdom or soul group, to 'regress' back to incarnating into a biological body of a species in which the lessons and consciential tasks are significantly different.

That is not to say such never occurs. For if there are good reasons for something to occur, then by the natural laws of the universe (and good ol common sense), it would certainly (make sense for it to) occur.

And so the question for you is not so much, is she a human soul incarnating as an animal, or an animal soul incarnating as a human?

These questions become laughable and rather pointless when you see from the higher perspective and realize that souls are souls, 'humans' and 'animals' are merely temporary physical vehicles for the consciousness, and all consciousnesses are essentially the same, ie. aspects and fragments of God that is, and always will be your (you, all your loved ones, all beings of the Cosmos) True Self.

If you do find yourself somehow disturbed by any of the possibilities or ideas that you may suggest to yourself (eg. "OMG! A human soul backslided into an animal soul! That's sooooo sad!"), then that is good (ie. good that you feel disturbed), for even such seemingly 'negative' emotional reactions (eg. upset, anger, sadness, etc) can serve powerfully as OPPORTUNITIES (on simple condition that you're willing to make the effort to learn from these) for you to CLARIFY the true meaning, underlying lessons and Lovingness, of your own ideas, beliefs, choices and thosenes (thoughts, emotions & energies) and true nature (*you* determine your own nature).

And the most direct way to accomplish this, is via Byron Katie's Inquiry Process. Why are you upset? Iterate or articulate your problem statement. Then Turn it Around.

The result of such (Clarification processes, eg. via Inquiry method) is inevitably karmic and consciential evolution, both for the Inquiring soul, as well as for others around (ie. assistantiality), including in this case, (assistantiality) for the being who you love so deeply as your " little girl dog".


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PS.

Here are a couple of accounts that illustrate the universality of souls (all equally deserving of Love, all equally ourselves) :
 
 
Mr Satan wrote :

i read in one of monroe's books that he visited a place where the spirits, as lights, were lined up waiting to be prepped for incarnation.  They would go through a process where they would forget their previous lives and then shoot toward their new bodies.  In this line he saw one light that was smaller.  He approached it, conversing w it.  The little light said that it had previously been an animal incarnation.  It had done something really exceptional, and so was allowed the privilege of now having a human life.  It felt very honored and nervous at the same time.

(To which Marilyn added)

Yes, I remember reading this too. I believe it was a dog and this really threw me. I've always wondered about that as I didn't think that animals could incarnate as humans.

In a separate thread, Bruce (Moen) writes :

In a two-hour version of my workshop, in Sydney, Australia, participants were taking part in a retrieval exercise.  They were being guided by my verbal cues to retrieve a person.  One of the participants, a woman, came upon a small dog who had died and become stuck.  In her conversation with the dog he told her that he was worried he must have done something wrong.  This because his master no longer call his name and because the children in the family no longer played with him.  The women explained to him that he had not done anything wrong, it was just that he no longer had a body his master or the children could see.

The Helper who showed up to assist in the retrieval of this little dog was a large, adult, white dog.  The participant followed the retrieval process far enough to observe that the little dog was taken to a place where other animals were.  She described it as a large, sunny meadow or pasture where children were playing with puppies and dogs.  

More than a year after this experience I was sharing this story with a pet owner who told me that the place the participant described sounded like the area she and others call the Rainbow Bridge.  In several other retrievals performed during in my workshops other participants have described retrieving other animals to the same place.

Sai Baba also once casually mentioned that his pet elephant was finally ready for her first human incarnation in the next upcoming life, and that it was because she (as with many other animal souls who 'graduate' ahead of their peers) had been putting much effort and willingness to cultivate and demonstrate the higher consciential qualities of compassion and service in her past and current life, and thus being ready for the greater opportunities (of evolution and universal assistantiality) that are provided by a human incarnation.

Unfortunately, from observation, the vast majority of human beings incarnate do not seem to truly appreciate and cherish their current human incarnations very much... a real pity, for every human lifetime is incredibly precious, and so much (more) could be accomplished by each and every human being alive today...

On this topic of appreciating and cherishing the human evolutionary status and the preciousness of (each & every) human incarnation, please refer to my posts on the following threads :

"Evolutionary Level of Human Beings"

"Voices from the Afterlife"


On the topic of Byron Katie and Clarification, see :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1117041145/0#0


On the topic of Hilarion (whom you ask for advice and answers, for those of you deeply emotionally connected to your pets) :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm#Hilarion


On the topic of Souls, Afterlife, Reincarnation, Intermissive Periods, Existential Programs and Evolution :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/IAC/index.htm

(This post follows up from the earlier post, "Baby Born Without a Face" (but certainly not without a heart!), in which the subject of discussion shifts totally away from the beauty within the baby girl Juliana, to the beauty within the reader's own heart...)
 

Continue reading...
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1125764105/0#0

 

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In Florida, USA :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1125389615/0#0

[ALL EXPERIENCES HAVE IMPORTANT VALUE AND DEEPER MEANING, REGARDLESS OF THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OR SOURCE BEHIND IT. AND ONLY YOU, NOT ANY OTHER BEING(S), CAN UNLOCK ITS *TRUE* MEANING, AND DETERMINE THE BENEFIT IT CAN GIVE TO YOU.]

( Please note : this post was composed in simultaneous reply to both Brendan's "I'm DONE with this $#!%" as well as Spooky's "Crisis", and thus I will reproduce this post on both threads. Kyo. )

I'm wasting a HUGE amount of time thinking about this sort of metaphysical mule manure...

As far as the lifetime on Earth goes, it doesn't matter quite as much what you choose to believe/accept/agree, or not believe/accept/agree; what *is* of the utmost relevance, in terms of living a lifetime *successfully* (ie. making the most of precious time here on Earth), is the completion of the existential program.

The existential program, in a nutshell, is the overview of personalized, specific objectives and goals that you have set out to accomplish in this incarnation. Your (ie. this incarnation's) existential program, was 'written' as a collaborative joint-effort planning, with the main author being yourself (ie. your soul), with a great deal of discussion, assistance, advice and suggestions from your guides & helpers, teachers and evolutionary orientor, as well as in cooperation with the existential programs of others with whom you choose to work with in the upcoming liftime.

Afterall, a carefully planned lifetime will involve extensive karmic interactions with other 'friends & colleagues' with whom they are specific little co-existential programs for specific forseeable relationships.

This does not imply that everything is predestined, quite the opposite. This demonstrates that you *do* have free will (remember that *you* wrote your own existential program in your much more lucid capacity as an extraphysical being in the intermissive period), and have taken great effort towards implementing your free will, and have tremendous assistance, company and guidance of all the guides & helpers, and all your (soul's) loved ones, friends and family ('familiar ones'), even if you may have temporarily (during physical incarnation) forgotten about them, for they haven't forgotten you, nor will ever forsake you.

So to Brendan (and everyone else), whatever you believe or not believe, doesn't matter so much, as long as you complete your existential program.

Recently I thought I could have wasted so much time with my meditations and mind-journeys and looking at books and my monitor that after I'd finished this life I must come to the insight that I've done nearly nothing of worth and missed my chance to do the really important things here. But I don't really know what task or service in C1 (intraphysical) I have to do that would make my life complete. Everything seems to be the same, boring, meaningless.  Anyone who had a similar crisis?

The crisis which you refer to, Spooky, is not so much one that wrestles with the question of validity of any of the spiritual concepts or experiences, but it is a (far more important) crisis, that of completing your existential program.


The mid-life crisis and mid-life depression that so many people (in fact, the majority of humans physically incarnate on Earth) experience to varying extents, is a manifestation and pre-warning of 'soul melancholy'.

That is, the sadness of the soul when it senses that, already halfway through it's physical incarnation, it is still far from accomplishing what it had set out to accomplish in this life, ie. its existential program.

This is the root cause of the most profound depression, one that sedative mind-numbing drugs only further exacerbates and hinders (any hope of fulfilling the existential program).

There are multiple objectives on multiple levels, some personal in nature (eg. karmic lessons), some involving specific relationships with others (eg. friends, family and intimate partners), and (for more evolved souls) participation in polykarmic projects of assistantiality (ie. any type of work which reaches out to, positively affects, and helps the lives of many others); these are some examples illustrating the intricate nature and complexity of a single incarnated human being's existential program.

Today, on a mind-journey I was told to focus on LEAVING the world, not to force myself doing great deeds of service IN this world, because the bad conscience hinders me to live a good life, which is, so I was told, for me to enjoy the present and don't care about whether I do something good or bad. That there isn't a special task for me to do, only to live and to see that there is nothing to wish and nothing to learn for me anymore, to get certain about this so that I can leave the earth without the urge to come back.

There are two separate aspects to this, and both must be carefully understood and approached correctly.

The suggestion given to you (it does not matter the exact identity of the energy or being who contacted you with this message, whether it be your own soul, a guide helper, intruder, etc), has important value, but only if you understand it correctly.

To be, first and foremost, then to do.

One must first be balanced, accepting and loving with your own being (ie. existence), without false reliance on any conditions external (ie. conditional love).

Eg. "I won't be happy unless I get that car" or "unless she marries me in this life" or even "unless I accomplish my existential program for this lifetime!"

All too many people live their lives as zombies, robots or puppets, seeking to fill up the hollowness deep within themselves with hollow external achievements and 'successes', such as academic, business/corporate, even relationship & family life. And for some, even contributing to charitable causes, but for the wrong reasons or seeking, and end up feeling hollow and unfulfilled.

But because these individuals were themselves NOT self-balanced, self-connected, self-accepting, self-lucid, self-loving and unconditionally loving, to begin with.

They are escaping from themselves (and their issues) in a desperate bid to seek themselves (and confront their issues), chasing their own shadows and ignoring (and separating from) their true selves.


Spooky (and everyone), if you attempt to accomplish any 'special tasks' or even that of your own existential program, without first attaining the pre-requisite of 'englightenment' in the BEING, you will not be able to truly or totally grasp the Joy or Love of the DOING. In other words, the 'special tasks' will not have the 'special meaning' it was originally intended to have. It would simply be a hollow task (for you), even if others might be positively affected by it (that would be good, but it could be better! And that, is up to you!).

Hence, this is the true value of the communication that was given to you (in your mind-journey), quite regardless of its original intention (and source).

ALL EXPERIENCES HAVE IMPORTANT VALUE AND DEEPER MEANING, REGARDLESS OF THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OR SOURCE BEHIND IT. AND ONLY YOU, NOT ANY OTHER BEING(S), CAN UNLOCK ITS *TRUE* MEANING, AND DETERMINE THE BENEFIT IT CAN GIVE TO YOU.


And once you have truly grasped (ie. determined for yourself) its meaning, and have successfully implemented it fully in your life (ie. made it real for yourself on all levels of your existence), then and only then, the next natural expression of your self-balanced, self-connected, self-accepting, self-lucid, self-loving and unconditionally loving, would be the completion of the existential program in its totality.


To reiterate, 'inner-enlightenment' must go hand-in-hand with 'outer-enlightenment', for the 'complete-enlightenment'.

To paraphrase, Evolution must go hand-in-hand with Assistantiality, for the complete Existential Experience.


So learn to "enjoy the present, live in the NOW, and don't care about whether I do something 'good' or 'bad'... That there isn't a special task that I *have* to do (to accept myself), only to live and to see that there is nothing to wish and nothing to do for me; to be unconditionally joyful and unconditionally loving at all times...", right now, then (*SIMULTANEOUSLY*) proceed to accomplish your existential program.

One does not take precedence or priority over the other. They are both pre-requisites for each other.


As to the exact specifics of your existential program, there are many ways to approach this. However, due to the extreme importance (and for some, urgency) of this subject, we wish to make known to the reader now, the existence of one particularly powerful avenue of communication and help, from the guides & helpers - The Hilarion Reading.

It is of course, only one of many such bridges or pathways. But for some of you, it is one that can indeed be the 'break' that you could really use.

In doing the Hilarion Reading, in which you get to ask 6 questions of a personal nature, dedicate at least one of the questions to asking for Hilarion's advice on the various aspects of your existential program.


The Hilarion Reading :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm#Hilarion



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Enlightenment is to BE, and simultaneously to DO.


If you neglect one, you cannot fully do the other.
You must BE (unconditionally), only then you can you properly DO (extension of your BEing).

From the BEingness, you create the DOingness.
And in the DOingness, you live out your BEingness.

You will realize that both are aspects of each other; that both are One.


If you do not Love yourself, you do not truly Love others.
If you do not Love others, you do not truly Love yourself.

Only when you truly understand/choose/honour/cherish/enjoy/realize the Oneness of All Beings, and have choosen to give/accept *all of both* (self-is-fully-loved plus others-are-fully-loved, ie. self-is-truly-others plus others-are-truly-self), then you (God) have truly experienced Love.

Then you can truly experience (and enjoy) the complete existence of simultaneous BEingness & DOingness.


Meditations on Heart.Of.God, see here.

Work of Byron Katie (for BEingness), see here.

The Hilarion Reading (for advice on DOing your Existential Program), see here.

Life will be worth living again.

(To be precise you would realize that Life was *always* worth living, only that you had forgotten how to live it. Now here's your chance. Give it to yourself. And in doing so, to all your loved ones, to all other beings, and to the Cosmos.)

[What if you found out you had AIDS or cancer?]

For those interested, I made a post (on my website forum which is really now a 'blog') titled,
"What if you found out you had AIDS or cancer?[/i]"


Click HERE to read.

 
(In the past, I sometimes reproduced the entirety of my posts originally made on other forums, here. This is in retrospect, inefficient, unnecessary and unproductive, and rather contrary to the freedom of spirit and 'Oneness' of the internet. Henceforth, I will directly use hyperlinks instead. There is tremendous value to linking between and across internet forums of similar objectives, eg. Afterlife Knowledge forum, Astral Pulse forum, Near Death Experience forum, Closing-Gaps forum, etc.)

The Real Creation Story.
http://www.andromedalliance.com/galactic_history_by_ari@ava.htm

(the new url above updated on 30 Jan 06, as old url no longer exists)


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Some of you here (eg. the moderators) might remember Winged Wolf, who used to post here some years back. Although she seems to have left the Astral Pulse forums, her work is still available and accesible via her websites.

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The subject of Vampires is a largely misunderstood one. Some even shrug if off as Hollywood fiction. As always, proper education on matters, is the key.

Winged Wolf on Vampires :
http://wingedwolf.thepsionguild.net/WWvamp.html

(Warning - note that this includes a link to a lynching video clip)

*EDIT*

Kyo,

There is more than enough darkness in this world being presented to us as "object lessons" in how nasty people can be. Posting it here to try and make people "think" about it is not what this site is about.

The spiritual evolution that Adrian and the moderators here are trying to promote comes about from positive reinforcement, not brutal "shock tactics" negativity.

Please do not post such things here again.

James.

This was the original image :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/UFOs_&_ETs/CE-VI/USGovtInvolvement_CE-VI_WilliamBaldwin_pg51_52.gif

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For more excerpts and a (non-profit) Amazon.com link to the book,
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1123750552/0#0

(edited 12 Aug 05)

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(edited 12 Aug 05)

(The following is a reply to Derestanne, who posted here on Simpo's forum)


Hi Derestanne,

Judging from the phone calls, the listening audience was split in half that night - shock or denial - not much in between.

Oh yes. It's really quite amazing, the level of ignorance (due to veil of non-disclosure) that the majority of humanity incarnate, is living out its existence under.

For the majority of humanity (>90%) on the planet today (thanks to the non-disclosure by governments and the brainwashing of dogmatic religions), who have little or no awareness on :


1) The extensive extraterrestrial involvement with humanity, on so many levels (from the genetic creation of man's biological body, to US Govt - ET interactions including possession of crashed spacecrafts, to daily ongoing abductions/implantations/experimentation, ET channeling/guides such as the Ashtar group, etc).

2) The truth about raw vs cooked foods (particularly oils/fats) and their inseparable link to health vs disease (eg. Aajonus Vonderplanitz)

3) Clarification - the true nature, purpose, and end, to suffering (eg. Byron Katie). How every bit of suffering tells an important lesson, which is woefully neglected 99.9% of the time by 99.9% of humanity, thus guaranteeing continued suffering.

4) Multidimensionality, Afterlife, Reincarnation, Conscientiology, etc. What happens after death, between lifetimes, purpose for physical incarnation, reasons for reincarnational cycle, the existential program or purpose of one's life (as planned by oneself before birth), importance of working with guides & helpers to maximize evolution & assistantiality, etc.


From just a brief glance at these 4 broad categories, you would think right now, this would be a terrible, terrible time to incarnate on planet Earth.


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Imagine lots of spirit 'customers' eagerly queing up to reincarnate, having been shown attractive brochures with glossy images of lush tropical rainforests and cheerful village kids playing ball, and spouting catchy phrases such as"Be a Man, join the Earth Life System!" or "Physical Incarnation is Cool!" or "Earth & Humanity - Top 10 in the InterGalatic Tourism Destination Chart!".

Suddenly, just as the next-in-line spirit steps into the "EZ-Incarnation" dimensional portal, he gets a glimpse of the incredible level of non-disclosure/ignorance/dogmatic-brainwashing prevalent on the planet amongst humanity, and recoils away in horror.

Thankfully, the guide-helper-wearing-cool-shades-and-a-grin has already forseen and is fully prepared for this potential little 'hiccup', he snaps his fingers and two muscular, hulking angels click-in, one on each side of the dissident spirit, and haul him struggling and screaming into the 'EZ-Incarnate' portal, and themselves promptly click-out.

The rest of the line looks momentarily taken aback, but the suave-guide-helper grins assuringly, "Nothing to be concerned about, folks. Our friend here was just getting a little too ecstatic, finally having the chance to go into the physical, which is perfectly understandable, wouldn't you agree? *smmmilllleeee*", to which the rest of the folks nod their heads understandingly.

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PS.
the above account is purely fictitious. Any similarity to persons living or dead, is purely coincidental... or so you would like to believe, wouldn't you? *smmmilllleeee*

PPS.
Ok I'm just kidding, seriously...

[The Story of Ann]

Featuring one of the most beautiful books on contact with the afterlife and the angelic :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/LilyFairchilde/index.htm


The following brief excerpt illustrates the limitless potential for infinite beauty & love, everpresent in the hearts of *every* being, but (sadly) left untapped and unexplored by most human beings, for entire lifetimes.


The Story of Ann

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/LilyFairchilde/VoicesFromTheAfterlife_pg23.gif

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/LilyFairchilde/VoicesFromTheAfterlife_pg24&25.gif

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/LilyFairchilde/VoicesFromTheAfterlife_pg26&27.gif

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/LilyFairchilde/VoicesFromTheAfterlife_pg28&29.gif

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The book "Voices from the Afterlife" by Lily Fairchilde, is available from Amazon.com :
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312187599/102-2520698-2425743

I had earlier and elsewhere posted the link to a picture of a doll, that was rather interesting looking (originally designed as a 'screamer'):
 
http://lindsaylohannekkid.ytmnd.com


There has been a variety of responses on the doll. One one forum, someone submitted another url in reply, "If you think that's wierd for a doll, check this out - http://www.demonkidz.com/Custom.html ".

Now, unlike the "Lindsay Lohanne Nekkid" doll, which while alien-like (proportion of eyes, forehead, face) in appearance interpreted as eerie for some, still has some measure of asthethic quality (ignore the accompanying soundtrack), on the other hand, the "demonkidz" dolls (as the manufacturer calls them), are markedly different in nature.

( Caution - do not view if you are easily disturbed by these matters -
http://www.demonkidz.com/Kidz2.html
http://www.demonkidz.com/Custom.html )

Upon viewing the 'demonkidz' dolls, a wide variety of emotional reactions may be observed in different individuals. Ranging from feeling somewhat disturbed or unsettled, to outright disgust or loathing, to possibly a perverse 'demonic' lust for such 'beauty' for some (eg. the many loyal customers and fans of the 'demonkidz' doll series).

For myself however, like some others, what I felt was understanding and compassion. Not compassion or love for (ie. directed towards) the shadow/shell of darkness that is the demonic force as represented by the dolls, for that is but an illusion, the very existence of which based a lie of deception (see William Baldwin's writings). But compassion or love, for the Light within, the God essence within; as well as for the beings who might have been intruded/attached/possessed by these shadows/shells of darkness.

It is not helpful for people to react in fear of this darkness (which would only be feeding the lie), FEAR = False Evidence Appearing as Real; because such fear is born out of ignorance, and would only be feeding the lie, the deception that these beings fall under; and thus would only be detrimental to the person expressing the fear, as well as not truly helping/enlightening the dark force entity or demonic being in question.

For a better understanding, read my post on "Spirit Releasement and Dark Force Entities" :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1122476471

For a one-page summary of the "Sequence of a Demonic Spirit Releasement" (as utilized by Dr William Baldwin), ie. what to (ideally) do in a situation involving the demonic, see :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/SRT/SpiritReleasementTherapy_TreatmentOfTheDemonic_pg324.gif


Hence, you need not, and should not, upset yourself in viewing these dolls, or when encountering these concepts involving the demonic, dark forces, and ghosts (more on this in a while). If you do, that's just fear, which is a *LIE*.

Instead, understand objectively the situation, and armed with total clarity and lucidity, expressing only love and compassion, take the personal stand of maximum assistantiality and cosmoethics.  

Use this as an opportunity to re-affirm your dedication and committment to working closely and colleagially with the Guides & Helpers, Angels & ArchAngels, Ascended Masters, Evolutionary Orientors, Serenissimus and All Beings of the Highest vibrations; towards maximum assistantiality and cosmoethics.

Those with the proper training in Spirit Releasement Therapy, can proceed in their role as the SRT therapist, and carry out the "Sequence of a Demonic Spirit Releasement". The rest, will have to make do what they feel is most appropriate or helpful, such as their own prayers, methods, Vibrational State, seeking the assistance and guidance of their guides & helpers, etc. But always acting not out of fear, but of compassion and love.  

(However, as written in my other post, never engage the dark beings directly on any emotional level; the love is always for the Light within, and not for the illusion of the shadow/shell/cloak of darkess whose manifestation is based on a lie. See Baldwin's writings - http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/WilliamBaldwin/index.htm ).

Hence, as to the concept of the demonic, all that's needed, is to be open to the possibility that there can be aspects of consciousnesses (usually non-human in origin) that have become so warped (due to the deception that they have no Light/God within), that they manifest an illusion of a 'shadow/shell/cloak' of darkness, so dark in nature, that it goes way beyond the realm of the human psyche. The darkness becomes as a 'non-alive' computer virus, rather than the soul of the person who wrote it (eg. out of bitterness).

This possibility, however, does not (need to) actually violate or alter any fundamental concepts that most Soul Retrievers and Therapists are already comfortable with, such as the healing power of Pure Unconditional Love. It just needs a bit of intelligent tweaking, ie. Would it be appropriate to send love to the computer virus, which has the programming capacity to misuse and abuse even love energy sent to it, and further its own dark intentions?

Or would it more correct/accurate/to-the-point, to instead send love to the soul of the person who created the computer virus, who upon contact, realizes that the bitterness he felt was in fact based upon false beliefs (see work of Byron Katie - *all* emotional suffering is based upon false beliefs), and the darkness is 'turned', the newly emerged being returns home to the Light of clarity and love, and dismantles the computer virus, which was never 'real' in the first place.

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In the same vein, one should not fear ghosts (human psychotic post mortems). There are people who had replied indignantly, "This is the 7th Month of the Chinese calendar! The gates of hell are open and ghosts roam the mortal realm freely! How can you post this about this demon doll at a time like this!!!"

Again, this is fear. FEAR = False Evidence Appearing as Real. The ghost, correct term being "psychotic post mortem", or the human mind that becomes psychologically disturbed after death, being in a self-created state of confusion or psychological pain, due to similar patterns heavily present in the psyche at the time of death, or in the life of the individual, while he/she was alive.

Such psychotic post mortems need compassion and help (instead of more fear!), and are often vibrationally and psychologically beyond the reach of the guides & helpers directly. That is to say, the assistance of intraphysical human incarnates is needed, to act as an intermediary for the guides & helpers to contact, assist and free the psychotic post mortem ('ghost').

Such lightwork, is the focus of the "Out-Of-Body Ministry" or "Soul Retrieval" healing work, that is carried out by many individuals and groups, one of such are the individuals affiliated with Bruce Moen's work, ie. carrying out Soul Retrievals along the lines as conceptualized by researcher and author Bruce Moen - http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com  

The International Academy of Consciousness also have their own methods for retrieval, deintrusion and healing, under the broad heading of "ConscientioTherapy" - http://www.iacworld.org


In conclusion, the time has come to let go of fear, and in its place, the light of understanding and clarity, motivated by the light of compassion and love within your heart. If you've not already done so, educate yourself on these matters of evolution and assistantiality now, and help to educate those around you who ask for it. Do it for your loved ones, if not for yourself. The time is Now.

 
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Here's a quick method usable by anyone feeling disturbed by darker forces, and a beautifully inspiring one :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/DarkBrothers/index.htm

Sananda (Jesus Christ), the Angels, ArchAngels, Serenissimus, Guides & Helpers, make themselves available to *ALL* whom call out to them in the Name of the Light, in the Service of the greatest CosmoEthics.

Today (07 Aug 05), Peter came over to my place, and we managed to do a recording of his latest version of "Peter's Canon" on my Yamaha DGX-500 piano. This version sees some significant additions to the earlier (22 Jul 05) version.

Unfortunately, we still did not have the time to do several re-recordings, so you will still notice quite a number of errors in the recording, for which we apologize. We still hope to record a more updated, properly executed version of "Peter's Canon", to be made available in the future.

For the moment, we hope you will enjoy the new, 07 Aug 05 version of "Peter's Canon".

http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1121914789/2#2

I had earlier and elsewhere posted the link to a picture of a doll, that was rather interesting looking (originally designed as a 'screamer'):
 
http://lindsaylohannekkid.ytmnd.com


There has been a variety of responses on the doll. One one forum, someone submitted another url in reply, "If you think that's wierd for a doll, check this out - http://www.demonkidz.com/Custom.html ".

Now, unlike the "Lindsay Lohanne Nekkid" doll, which while alien-like (proportion of eyes, forehead, face) in appearance interpreted as eerie for some, still has some measure of asthethic quality (ignore the accompanying soundtrack), on the other hand, the "demonkidz" dolls (as the manufacturer calls them), are markedly different in nature.

( Caution - do not view if you are easily disturbed by these matters -
http://www.demonkidz.com/Kidz2.html
http://www.demonkidz.com/Custom.html )

Upon viewing the 'demonkidz' dolls, a wide variety of emotional reactions may be observed in different individuals. Ranging from feeling somewhat disturbed or unsettled, to outright disgust or loathing, to possibly a perverse 'demonic' lust for such 'beauty' for some (eg. the many loyal customers and fans of the 'demonkidz' doll series).

For myself however, like some others, what I felt was understanding and compassion. Not compassion or love for (ie. directed towards) the shadow/shell of darkness that is the demonic force as represented by the dolls, for that is but an illusion, the very existence of which based a lie of deception (see William Baldwin's writings). But compassion or love, for the Light within, the God essence within; as well as for the beings who might have been intruded/attached/possessed by these shadows/shells of darkness.

It is not helpful for people to react in fear of this darkness (which would only be feeding the lie), FEAR = False Evidence Appearing as Real; because such fear is born out of ignorance, and would only be feeding the lie, the deception that these beings fall under; and thus would only be detrimental to the person expressing the fear, as well as not truly helping/enlightening the dark force entity or demonic being in question.

For a better understanding, read my post on "Spirit Releasement and Dark Force Entities" :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1122476471

For a one-page summary of the "Sequence of a Demonic Spirit Releasement" (as utilized by Dr William Baldwin), ie. what to (ideally) do in a situation involving the demonic, see :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/SRT/SpiritReleasementTherapy_TreatmentOfTheDemonic_pg324.gif


Hence, you need not, and should not, upset yourself in viewing these dolls, or when encountering these concepts involving the demonic, dark forces, and ghosts (more on this in a while). If you do, that's just fear, which is a *LIE*.

Instead, understand objectively the situation, and armed with total clarity and lucidity, expressing only love and compassion, take the personal stand of maximum assistantiality and cosmoethics.  

Use this as an opportunity to re-affirm your dedication and committment to working closely and colleagially with the Guides & Helpers, Angels & ArchAngels, Ascended Masters, Evolutionary Orientors, Serenissimus and All Beings of the Highest vibrations; towards maximum assistantiality and cosmoethics.

Those with the proper training in Spirit Releasement Therapy, can proceed in their role as the SRT therapist, and carry out the "Sequence of a Demonic Spirit Releasement". The rest, will have to make do what they feel is most appropriate or helpful, such as their own prayers, methods, Vibrational State, seeking the assistance and guidance of their guides & helpers, etc. But always acting not out of fear, but of compassion and love.  

(However, as written in my other post, never engage the dark beings directly on any emotional level; the love is always for the Light within, and not for the illusion of the shadow/shell/cloak of darkess whose manifestation is based on a lie. See Baldwin's writings - http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/WilliamBaldwin/index.htm ).

Hence, as to the concept of the demonic, all that's needed, is to be open to the possibility that there can be aspects of consciousnesses (usually non-human in origin) that have become so warped (due to the deception that they have no Light/God within), that they manifest an illusion of a 'shadow/shell/cloak' of darkness, so dark in nature, that it goes way beyond the realm of the human psyche. The darkness becomes as a 'non-alive' computer virus, rather than the soul of the person who wrote it (eg. out of bitterness).

This possibility, however, does not (need to) actually violate or alter any fundamental concepts that most Soul Retrievers and Therapists are already comfortable with, such as the healing power of Pure Unconditional Love. It just needs a bit of intelligent tweaking, ie. Would it be appropriate to send love to the computer virus, which has the programming capacity to misuse and abuse even love energy sent to it, and further its own dark intentions?

Or would it more correct/accurate/to-the-point, to instead send love to the soul of the person who created the computer virus, who upon contact, realizes that the bitterness he felt was in fact based upon false beliefs (see work of Byron Katie - *all* emotional suffering is based upon false beliefs), and the darkness is 'turned', the newly emerged being returns home to the Light of clarity and love, and dismantles the computer virus, which was never 'real' in the first place.

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In the same vein, one should not fear ghosts (human psychotic post mortems). There are people who had replied indignantly, "This is the 7th Month of the Chinese calendar! The gates of hell are open and ghosts roam the mortal realm freely! How can you post this about this demon doll at a time like this!!!"

Again, this is fear. FEAR = False Evidence Appearing as Real. The ghost, correct term being "psychotic post mortem", or the human mind that becomes psychologically disturbed after death, being in a self-created state of confusion or psychological pain, due to similar patterns heavily present in the psyche at the time of death, or in the life of the individual, while he/she was alive.

Such psychotic post mortems need compassion and help (instead of more fear!), and are often vibrationally and psychologically beyond the reach of the guides & helpers directly. That is to say, the assistance of intraphysical human incarnates is needed, to act as an intermediary for the guides & helpers to contact, assist and free the psychotic post mortem ('ghost').

Such lightwork, is the focus of the "Out-Of-Body Ministry" or "Soul Retrieval" healing work, that is carried out by many individuals and groups, one of such are the individuals affiliated with Bruce Moen's work, ie. carrying out Soul Retrievals along the lines as conceptualized by researcher and author Bruce Moen - http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com  

The International Academy of Consciousness also have their own methods for retrieval, deintrusion and healing, under the broad heading of "ConscientioTherapy" - http://www.iacworld.org


In conclusion, the time has come to let go of fear, and in its place, the light of understanding and clarity, motivated by the light of compassion and love within your heart. If you've not already done so, educate yourself on these matters of evolution and assistantiality now, and help to educate those around you who ask for it. Do it for your loved ones, if not for yourself. The time is Now.

 
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PS.

Here's a quick method usable by anyone feeling disturbed by darker forces, and a beautifully inspiring one :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/DarkBrothers/index.htm

Sananda (Jesus Christ), the Angels, ArchAngels, Serenissimus, Guides & Helpers, make themselves available to *ALL* whom call out to them in the Name of the Light, in the Service of the greatest CosmoEthics.

Uhhh, on another forum I posted this, someone helpfully offered,

"*This* would be more desirable for a doll, thanks - http://www.volks.co.jp/en/index.aspx "

That is, would you like to sleep in a room (when u're all alone in your house) full of these dolls facing your bed?


http://lindsaylohannekkid.ytmnd.com/

The following is the reproduction of a post I made on my website :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1123041125

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Contact and communication with beings of higher vibration, is always helpful. They have to capacity to inspire, heal and assist powerfully in many ways, as much as you're willing to work with their assistance.

Indeed, without meaningful contact with more evolved consciousness in various contexts (intraphysical and extraphysical), the rate of evolution for all consciousness would be severely compromised. This is one of the reasons for intraphysical incarnation, in which many beings of many different levels of evolution, are given the powerful opportunity, to co-exist and interact with each other in so many ways and on so many levels, thereby supporting the evolution of the consciousnesses who contact with the more evolved ones, and making assistantiality or help from the more evolved consciousnesses, possible in many forms, in many karmic contexts of a varied nature.

For instance, the evolved consciousness or advanced soul, who volunteers to incarnate as a leukemia or cancer stricken child who would die young, to inspire a profound, emotional shift, experience of love, and learning in the parents who would benefit from the loving contact of such a beautiful, evolved soul.

As it applies to yourself then, acknowledge the Law of Help - as you ask for assistance and benefit from the loving contact with the energies of higher evolved beings (whether intraphysical and extraphysical); by exactly the same token, you freely give your assistance and benefit others around you who could use your guidance, love and contact. This is the Law of Help - as you ask for Help from others, so you give Help to others who ask of it. And the Help is always totally unconditional, for it is one aspect of God helping another, God helping It/Him/HerSelf, in both ways, across all levels, manifestations and beings. It is You helping (other aspects of) Yourselves, You loving (other aspects of) Yourselves.


Regarding channelings of Sananda, the Being of tremendous light and highest vibration, who incarnated on Earth as Jesus/Apollonius (previously as Adam, and as Moses) to demonstrate, expemplify and teach the Christ Love that is everpresent within and is the true nature of all beings; the following are three excerpts, in which Sananda had made guest appearances, during sessions in which Jon C Fox channeled the (Ascended Master) Hilarion :


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From Fall Equinox 2000 Channeling (search ctrl-F "Sananda") :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/fall00.html


Jill: Thanks. It has come up for discussion that Jesus Christ was a myth based on ancient stories. What is Hilarion's perspective on what is true and not true about Jesus?

Hilarion: There are many ways to understand this. The troubling part about it all is the same sort of energy we come into when we try to talk to you about things like truly, deeply healing foods. Your preconceived ideas about this get in the way. You have been preconditioned by so many in this regard with the relationship to the individual known as The Carpenter, known as Jesus of Nazareth, various different names. Well, we like to think of him as The Fisherman because of the way in which he drew in the souls of so many on your planet. This is a positive and beautiful way to think of him.

But as you understand these energies, you must see that the full deeper revelation of this has been powerfully overlaid by your religions, the Anti-Christ religions as well as the Christ-based religions, those that seek in opposition to bring understanding--for instance, Christians seen as heathens, as associated with the Devil, and others, in various religions that are indeed those which outnumber the Christians upon your planet. But to ultimately understand all of this, you must throw away all of these preconceived ideas, and many of you are ready for this.

So the simple truth is that there was an important man, a being who had gathered many energies, who had been incarnated in the past as the one that legends speak of as Moses, and as the one called Adam (who was a real man--the first one to die when the Xenon was removed from your atmosphere). In all of the subsequent incarnations of this being, a great deal of learning and gathering of information took place, but he recognized that the information needed to be shared, that others needed to understand it. This was ultimate empowerment, and was that which cut right to the heart of the rulers of the day. Eventually, this causing them to destroy the great library he had created of his works and his ability to assist others--the library at Alexandria. And the ability as a result of this to change the attitudes of those who were empowered became paramount to those who wished to control others: the pharoahs, the priests, the popes, and all of the others that came since have continued this energy in submerging these great works into that which would seem to be within the current understanding, for instance of the King James interpretation of the Bible, a lesson of fear, a lesson of disempowerment, a lesson in which, unless one goes right to the heart of the most helpful energies, one that cannot always bring one to a state of greater clarity, but rather one of dependence on the priests, on the religion. Perhaps even a fear of the various energies, guilts, and other excesses that the individual has experienced.

This man had a name. It was Apollonius. Yet at the time that name was attempted to signify consciousness, awareness, and so it was wiped from the face of Earth. There were many myths and energies associated with this energy, drawn in then from the Greek civilization, the Roman civilization. Many similarities to great Greek and Roman myths and Gods, and just as the Church has attempted to do this in so many ways powerfully drawing in from the lessons of the festivals, the times of Earth change, celebration and related matters, so then was this done with these myths and legends.

In the building of the Christ energy, there was much truth. There were many energies that were understood. But there were also many energies that were deliberately redirected to bring power to those in positions of power, to bring fear to those who needed to horde that fear over others. The being, as Apollonius, traveled all over your planet, learning in different capacities, working in different ways. Some important stops made in Japan, others in India. These are the legends that come to the Essenes and those who have studied and worked with the energies associated with the Christ at the higher vibrational level. As a man, he had opportunities to share many energies, to do many things, even to take a wife. To understand things on your planet at a physical level sometimes means being physical.

But at the same time, the essential energy seen at the highest level, that which you might associate with the higher vibration which entered into this being--that which has been known as Sananda--is a beautiful energy, an important energy, an energy that has direct association with what you would see as the highest and best aspect of the Christ; not that which disempowers, but that which loves, loves unconditionally, and empowers you to love unconditionally.

That is perhaps the best way to see this, because it must be seen that the unconditional love extends to those priests, pharoahs, rulers, and others who sought to change history, who sought to stop the process of enlightenment that had been begun in Jerusalem by the great words that this man had spoken. Understanding this process is very difficult, and that is what you are being asked to do when you comprehend and work with history in such a fashion. Understanding it will have a direct implication in the physical reality, as many of the ancient writings that were buried deeply in the Earth are produced from Alexandria, from aspects around the world where some of these were taken from the library before it was destroyed, and revealed again to humanity. These ancient scrolls, books, symbols, carved on rock and other things, will emerge in the next few decades in direct response to people having the deeper message of the true Christ energy. Don't give it a name. Know it as an energy. Feel it within your being. And in this way you have the real answer to what you seek.

We are grateful to Sananda for his overlighting and assistance with our answer. Are there further questions?

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From Winter Solstice (Christmas) Channeling 2002 (search ctrl-F "Sananda") :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/win02.html

Sananda: Many of you have known me in your heart as Sananda, and it is my intent to give gift, to remind you of the gift that you have within your heart for others. And so for a moment, letting go of these ideas of questions, to be within, to be in your own heart, to feel as if your heart is breathing, and in that breathing there forms a beautiful golden light, a sparkling star of light in your heart, a heart star in the center of your chest that begins to glow, to become brighter, to fill you with its radiance. And now I would ask you to hold your hands in front of you as if to receive in a restful easy way, palms up, the energy from your heart now forms and moves outside of you. It becomes real and as it moves down into your hand, it remains as energy for some of you, but for some of you it becomes an object, a pattern, a memory, an idea. For many of you the visualization of an object brings a special sense of love - a feather, a crystal, a statue, a loaf of bread, a stalk of wheat. In light of the question just asked, the gifting of food to your fellow men and women, this is an important significance of this gift. But you have two hands so let this light now also move from the heart into the other hand where it forms another gift. Choose one for you and one for the rest of humanity. And release that one and hold the other one as if allowing it to melt into your hand and allowing the other to melt into the Earth, to melt into those who would need it most. Christmastime is signified by gift giving. Its core, its essence, a reminder of the love in your heart for others. Those who have sought to commercialize this, to take away from the energies, have not been entirely successful. For even in the child's eyes full of greed is also a moment of appreciation and love for the world, for the love and the strength of those who would give.

And so for this moment, recognize this beautiful, special time and welcome a gift for yourself of Christ love, of a golden radiance always present, always in your heart, now to be breathed, now to fill you and now to extend beyond you to touch others as if its very nature is both giving and receiving.

Hilarion: Yes, Hilarion here again. We are grateful to Sananda for his willingness to remind all of the principle of sharing, of the love present in all, and we are grateful for the opportunity to feel this ourselves.

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From Winter Solstice (Christmas) 2003 Channeling (search ctrl-F "Sananda") :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/Hilarion/win03.html

Hilarion : And so for this, we would like to bring in another to speak to you.

Sananda: Thank you Hilarion. I am Sananda and have been a sign post or beacon for your planet for a few thousand years. My name has been used in many forms as a prophet, as a religious figure, but what has been overlooked is the light of the Christ in your heart. This golden light, it is a brilliant light, it is a liquid light. It is this light with which I can communicate with others - other people, your energy, but also religious figures on your planet be they charismatic or reclusive. It is an energy that I do not deny to anyone and so it has within it the idea that you will not deny it to your friends, to your loved ones, but most importantly, to your child self.

Christmas has been a powerful symbol of the baby, of the child energy. Powerful but also so kind and loving. This is an energy that is real with the experience of being born, and you have all felt it. So let the little baby be in your heart now. And let that child be golden, pouring light to you, filling you with a loving, caring light. This is the great symbol of being human - to understand and to receive that baby, to let the energy of your own child self, your own baby self always be with you.

It is at once simple and wise, because within its eyes is a great light, a light which loves completely, universally, perfectly. And that light never goes out from the world. Even in its times of struggle or darkness, the light is there.

This energy can come through in many ways. It can be felt by many people in many religious disciplines, but it is a core that is based in the biology of your heart, in the consciousness of your subtle bodies, in your breath. It is a great gift that Earth bestows on all humans, and a great gift humans are given to bestow upon each other. This is why the spirit of Christmas has evolved into gift giving. And that energy that is felt still as it may be corrupted by the commercial aspects or changed by religious dogma; it still shines through. The energy that says: in your heart, you are one.

Hilarion: Hilarion here again. We thank you Sananda for the idea of this as a crystal clear light in the heart. It has been asked as to our impressions of this being Sananda. And anyone who works at the multi-dimensional levels, be it in your own sleep or in your projections, in your meditations can contact and work with Sananda to know for yourself. To perceive this in its truth is to understand it as a clear light that has within it a personality, a personality of love, of caring, of compassion, of a willingness to burst through any wall of pain or struggle in order to contact and know that love. Not that love from him, but that love within yourself.

And so when we are discouraged, when there are times when our willingness to help seems insufficient, that is who we might seek out. Not so much for counseling or advice (there is plenty of that at the extraphysical levels), but for encouragement, for the awakening of the heart light, for the energy that says, I love. And so as I love, so you too can love.

One might ask then in understanding the energies associated with consciousness as associated with being experienced, physical, in the body, about these beings - that is limiting them. Mary, for instance and her willingness to help the children of your world, to appear to them in visions, to guide them and love them; this is a powerful symbol that has been added to by the non-physical realms and is a useful, helpful, uplifting energy for anyone who wishes to contact it.


Mary: Through this body [Jon C Fox's body] I have been known as Miriam, and I have contacted you through him before. That you know me as the mother of Jesus the carpenter, the way-shower. Yet, it is to the children that I speak and to the child self in you. It is this which must awaken, to recall the child part of you that loves and is loved. And with this part of you I strengthen a clear eye to look. What will you see in the world? When you look with your heart's eye, when you understand with the eyes of a child just as Jesus has shown you, you look with love. And what you will see hurts. You must shed tears for what you see - for the ways in the world that have harmed or allowed suffering. But you must look. The child will look. The child will be scarred by what he or she sees, but will look anyway. And so now it is time to look at your world through the eyes of a child, to see in your heart where suffering is needless, where struggle can be released, where old ways can be then let go of so that the new ones of love, new ones of appreciation, new ones of acceptance can be welcome again.

But still this is not enough. You must literally, physically cry to see with my eyes, to understand this and to feel it. And this is my answer to your question about pain, about why the children (I do see the teenagers as children you know), why they indeed recoil from this. They do not welcome the tears because you do not welcome them. But the tears can be that of release of toxicity, release of stress. And the release of these tears as the new thought form must be the veil of tears, the wall of tears, the curtain of tears that is passed through by everyone on your planet when you truly see what you have done to yourselves and why you no longer need to. You must cry for them, for the children, for your own hearts, for your Earth as you then make the corrections and move into the level that is ultimately of greatest joy for all.

Hilarion: Yes, Hilarion here again. Our relationship to Mary is one of deep respect, but also an understanding that your willingness to see in this way is one also of confronting your pain, and knowing that it is there to be released. It is there to understand, there to remind you, that it has a purpose. It is not just to be avoided. A moment please.....


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Click here for my Hilarion Archive :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/main.htm

Click here for Jon C Fox's Hilarion.com website :
http://hilarion.com/

[You may not be aware that on February 20-21, 1954, President Eisenhower met with a delegation of humanoid extraterrestrials commonly described as `Nordics']

(Kyo's note :
The following is a letter from Dr Michael E. Salla, to Dr Dan Burisch, an ex-MJ12 associate. In the letter, Dr Salla expresses his dissapointment with Dr Burisch, for involving himself with the dubious US Govt MJ-12's treaty with the Greys extraterrestrials, including the Govt's agreement to allow the Greys to abduct and carry out experiments on humans in exchange for their extraterrestrial technology, instead of choosing friendship with the more benevolent and spiritually evolved Nordic extraterrestrials.)


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From : http://www.greatdreams.com/tau_9_treaty.htm


Tuesday, April 13, 2004

Dear Dr Burisch,

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Dan (I hope you don't mind me being informal here since I hope we can continue to correspond) I wish to inquire about your `friendship' and experience with J-Rod where he performed a kind of mind-meld with you where your mind was flooded with information on the origins of life. No doubt this information has played an important role in your subsequent research into the Ganesh particle, and appears to be something that you highly value.

Perhaps, more significantly this information appears to be very highly prized by the controllers within the institutions of the Committee of the Majority/MJ 12 which puts you in this unique position of perhaps being the catalyst for disclosure of the extraterrestrial presence on our planet. My question about your mind-meld encounter simply is did J-Rod ask your permission? Did he enquire as to whether you would accept the information he wished to share with you? In that sense, was he being a `true friend' in passing on that information to you? I ask because I have observed a distinct pattern in the way the J-Rods or `Greys' as more commonly known, interact with humans. The reports on the human and Grey/J-Rod interactions are quite varied ranging from the most sublime of spiritual experiences, to what many would consider to be exploitative. Nevertheless, the one common thread in these interactions is that the Greys/J-Rods simply don't ask permission when they initially interact with humanity. Permission or consent, typically comes after the first interaction which is forced or a result of compulsion upon an unwilling human subject.

Now you might inquire what's the relevance of asking permission if what is gained is mutually beneficial and uplifting, and isn't the result an important criterion for friendship rather than the process of asking first? My response is asking permission is demonstrating a respect for human free will, a recognition that the choices we make are the ingredients of human maturity as a species, rather than the end results of our human labors. By simply interacting with humans where the Greys/J-Rods abducted unwilling human subjects into their ships, downloaded their advanced information into humans, performed their `biological improvements', and a variety of other `mutually beneficial' projects, all typically done without first asking permission, the Greys/J-Rods were demonstrating a remarkable absence of a characteristic that is an important criterion for true friendship.

You may ask whether I'm setting a rather high standard for how extraterrestrials might interact with humanity, and whether we should just accept that mode of interaction chosen on by the Greys/J-Rods for passing on their information which in the end is `mutually beneficial'. I raise this issue since I do question whether the Greys/J-Rods can be `true friends' for humanity, and also wish to propose that there are another extraterrestrial races that have demonstrably shown a greater capacity of being the true friends of humanity.

You may not be aware that on February 20-21, 1954, President Eisenhower met with a delegation of humanoid extraterrestrials commonly described as `Nordics'[/i] which I will hence use as a `general description' for those extraterrestrial races that physically appear sufficiently like modern humans as to blend in without being recognized. The evidence for the Eisenhower-Nordic meeting has been quite sparse as might be imagined given the secrecy over all things extraterrestrial, but when all this disparate information put together it makes for a compelling case that such a meeting took place. I have subsequently learned that the meeting was even filmed. I've compiled the evidence that I could find into an article on my website: http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-8.htm

A significant fact is that the meeting occurred eleven days before the testing of the largest Hydrogen bomb ever by the US. The Bravo Test took place on March 1, 1954 at Bikini Atoll, and had a 15 megaton yield. The meeting with the `Nordics' did not go well since they apparently asked that the U.S. end the testing of the hydrogen bomb, yet offered no technological assistance in return, but only `spiritual advice', and believed that humanity had still not reached sufficient moral maturity for the advanced technologies the `Nordics' possessed.
 
It appears that the Nordics were not interested in reaching an agreement with the Eisenhower administration based on `mutual assistance' agreement, since they presumably were not motivated by what the national security agencies had to offer. The Bravo Nuclear Test indicated that national security officials, in particular those within the Committee of the Majority, thought that they could get better terms from *another* extraterrestrial race that would be more open to participating in an agreement based on `mutual assistance'. The treaty you refer to you in your reply –"Tau-9 Conference for the Preservation of Humanity" was I believe one aspect of this process. Now in exchange for their technological assistance, the Greys/J-Rod were given the right to conduct a limited biological program based on a variety of conditions[/i] that have subsequently been disputed by both sides in terms of compliance and led to military conflicts according to a number of whistleblowers such as Bob Lazar, Phillip Corso, Phil Schneider, Bill Cooper, Michael Wolf, et al. You are in a better position than I to comment on the accuracy of what has occurred and the contents of the treaty, but I would like to offer some comments about what I have observed from the nature of the interactions between the `Nordics' who first met with President Eisenhower and the human contactees who have subsequently reported on the Nordics.

The contactee reports between the `Nordics' and humans typically follow a pattern that can be found in such classic cases as George Adamski, Billy Meiers, Enrique Rincon and more recent cases such as Jay Solomon. I have subsequently heard from others who choose to remain anonymous about their contact experiences. Based on my research I believe that there is an active military-intelligence campaign to suppress information on these `contact' cases, as opposed to `abductions' involving Greys/J-Rods which by and large are allowed to be disseminated in UFO circles. This suppression of contactee reports makes it difficult to gain a sufficiently large sample of cases on which to draw firm conclusions. Nevertheless there is enough information that points to the `Nordic extraterrestrial' contact experience having the following characteristics for the contactee: 1. heightened interest in extraterrestrials; 2. establishing telepathic communication with `Nordics'; 3. physical meeting with Nordics; 4. subsequent physical sightings of Nordic ships; 5. voluntarily going on board of a extraterrestrial ship; and 6. Nordics give assistance to the contactee to disseminate his/her experiences to a wider audience.

Now this appears to be a classic contact pattern and the thing which strikes me as most significant in this process is that the `contactee' is asked for permission by the `Nordics' when moving through these various stages which is indicative of a high degree of respect for human free will. I believe this is very significant and indicates that the `Nordics' display a key characteristic that indicates that they are capable of being humanity's `true friends' in the sense of philia or brotherly love. This of course contrasts with my earlier comments about humanity and the compulsory nature of the initial interaction with Greys/J-Rods, and leads me to your own rather unique situation.

You are not doubt aware of the way in which information about your experiences has been allowed to leak out to the general public, and in the way in which you have been allowed to be interviewed by phone and in person by individuals outside of the compartmentalized network of black projects. This is quite unique and I have never heard of any other case where this has occurred, and suggests that you are indeed the subject of an `insider' supported initiative to disclose the extraterrestrial presence on terms that might be considered to be favorable to the Committee of the Majority. One can read many motivations into this but what I see is that this as an effort by the Committee to legitimate the historic decisions they have taken to work with the J-Rods/Greys, and establish agreements based on mutually beneficial projects.

I am very concerned that the result of a disclosure done in this way will be to legitimate the `spin' on human - extraterrestrial interactions that puts the Committee of the Majority in a favorable light. I suspect that the Committee does not intend to release information on the failed diplomatic negotiations with the `Nordics' involved in the 1954 Eisenhower meeting. This would be most unfortunate since in my view, it is these extraterrestrials that have shown they are most capable of being humanity's true friends, since they recognized that the fruit of any technology agreements would not be beneficial to the human condition simply because we were not yet morally mature enough to deal with this technology. Subsequent history has show the truth of this since all the technology achieved through interaction with the Greys/J-Rods has been kept secret, and we still for instance consume fossil fuels when there are alternative free-energy technologies that are secretly available.

Public disclosure is more than just revealing information on the secret extraterrestrial presence on our planet, and of the `mutually beneficial' projects that have been embarked upon. Disclosure is a rite of passage which marks an important milestone in human maturation where we enter into the greater galactic community. If the general public is given information about extraterrestrials that is sanitized of any mention of the earlier meetings that occurred with the Nordic extraterrestrials, or casts a negative light on them for their refusal to participate in `mutually beneficial' technology programs, then that would be most unfortunate. What we would have instead is a sanitized disclosure process based on a utilitarian principle of `mutually beneficial' projects, that resulted in much abuse by the Committee of the Majority in terms of how the fruits of these projects were dispersed. The Greys/J-Rods are complicit in this by virtue of their participation in these agreements, even though it was the decision of the Committee of the Majority not to distribute these technologies. This might be simply viewed as the Greys/J-Rods respecting the will of the leaders of the secret political committees set up to interface with the public, yet the behavior of the Greys/J-Rods in the abduction process suggests they are not champions of human free will.[/i]

I hope that by sharing these ethical and exopolitical insights with you, you may incorporate some of these into your efforts to promote a more transparent disclosure process. It appears that you have been chosen by the Committee of the Majority to play a significant role in disclosure of the most important event in recent human history. I hope that the fair mindedness and great integrity you have shown in your responses both to me and to others, influences you in giving some of the issues I have raised a fair hearing in what lies ahead. I feel that Providence has placed you in a unique position and that you have the necessary gifts to promote an outcome for the highest good of all. I wish you well in your efforts.

In peace and friendship,


Michael E. Salla, PhD
http://www.exopolitics.org