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#51
 
The Supreme Comedy.

THE WORDS THE BIBLE HAD TO LEAVE OUT
so we would  be busy making God laugh
by chasing money and its matter
instead of laughing at God laughing. 

----

God encourages me to speak for him
indeed he sometimes even begs  me to speak for him
but ONLY  because
I'm the ONLY one who laughs at all his jokes.

And I speak for him the best
when I say that by far his best joke is ME
but ONLY because
all this laughing at God laughing
keeps me brain-dead.

Love and laughs
--  Braindead
#52
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / gaps and gods
March 02, 2006, 12:19:55
Physic's quantum-gap is beyond understanding. And yet without it we would not have any atoms and their periodic-table; and without the periodic-table we would not have any order or disorder to the universe because we would have no universe.

So too with the gap (universe-vanishing, UV-gap) between thoughts. Like physics'  quantum-gap the UV-gap between thoughts is utterly beyond understanding and yet without it we would have no thoughts like physics and universe, and understand.

And if  physics has any gods it is this quantum-gap that gives us all the  order and disorder to the universe. But the UV-gap between thoughts tells us that no god can hide in the gap between thoughts because god is a thought.  
And so the UV-gap, which is the same as physics' quantum-gap, cannot hide gods, nor doers or thinkers between thoughts. This is because gods, thinkers and doers are just thoughts that can  no more  exist  (in the UV-gap) between thoughts than can  physics waves-particles, and gods,  exist in quantum-gaps.

-- and this is the Supreme Truth because there are no doers or thinkers, not even gods,  that can agree with or disagree with the UV-gap that is Heaven it-SELF.
#53
Heaven is all there is. Everything that is not Heaven is Heaven's fiction, thoughts.
Heaven is simply the unfathomable BLISS  we wake-up-to/are  each night in dreamless-sleep.

The Supreme Comedy is that our reality  is Heaven's fiction, thoughts.

The Supreme Comedy is that Heaven's fiction works exactly like every other type of fiction we have,  like words and their novels, movies, computers, TV, dreams and even hallucinations, and ESPECIALLY physics.  
That our reality is no more real than a hallucination is the Supreme Comedy.

This Supreme Comedy called reality  might not sound very funny until the Laughter starts, or explodes, to kill this reality and make it the best-fiction there ever was.  

And this is the Supreme Truth of this Supreme Comedy because Heaven is all there is, there is no other, there is no doer  that can think, read or write to agree or disagree with Heaven it-SELF.

And if this Supreme Comedy is not  enough then the Supreme Truth  can only get better because it ALSO means that every word ever written, and will be written, is also the Supreme Truth  for the exact same reason: Heaven is all there is, there is no other. In fiction there is no doer that can think, read or write let alone  agree/disagree  with Heaven it-SELF because that is what all fiction is about: thoughts, words,  and NOT words that do things, doers. And  that also goes for the best-fiction ever: the Supreme Comedy we call reality.

And so, just like a novel can only have words and NOT words that do things, or write things... and exactly like physics in which there are no gods or doers playing with particles only particles that appear to be playing with themselves   ... so too with Heaven's best-fiction we call reality there are no thoughts that do things, doers, only thoughts.

And exactly like a novel and physics, dreams and hallucinations -- on all is limitless-levels and fathomless-depths nothing in reality can ever appear to be what it is because it is all  the same, thoughts.

So this Supreme Comedy we seriously call reality  is just a joke that Heaven plays on it-SELF because there is no other, only the lethal-laughter of the Joke that is  Heaven it-SELF.

And Heaven's fiction is the best-fiction ever because the more obvious it gets from all its fathomless-depths and limitless-levels that it MUST BE  fiction, nothing but thoughts,  the more all sorts of  thoughts/words like misery and pain make laughter difficult  ... until the Laughter starts, to make it into not only the best-fiction but  the Supreme Comedy in which the Laughter is Heaven it-SELF.

--  UV-gap
#54
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genep:
I can only thank you. My only thoughts: the reader has to understand quantum-physics before he can understand the 5000 year old non-duality of Advaita. Otherwise it is a chicken and egg scenario.
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Humm, well, that all sound very interesting indeed! Now, I have some grasp of quantum mechanics, but I have to admit to not knowing very much about the non-duality of advaita.. What do you mean by this? I am always fascinated to hear of the links between the quantum and the spiritual.

peace
Rob
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Hello rob:
Advaita comes down to us from the 5000 year old Supreme Science, the study of thoughts. Sages around the Indus River used meditation to study their thoughts which was exactly like the study of physics: As long as they focused their study onto the thoughts the Supreme Science was a wild goose chase.. just like physics is a wild goose chase as long as physicists keep chasing their particles.
The moment these sages of old focused on the UV-gap, the universe-vanishing gap, between thoughts everything fell together in a perfection that left no questions, nor doubts. This perfection that left no questions is Samadhi. Thus the monism of Advaita. (The universe vanishes in this UV-gap between thoughts because it is just a thought that has to vanish in the gap between thoughts.)

The UV-gap is simply physic's quantum gap. The moment physicists focus their attention on the quantum-gap -- instead of the particles, thoughts -- will be the instant they will realize that chasing particles is the same wild-goose-chase thoughts need to chase each other around .. to keep expanding the universe just as fast as the thoughts that feed it to create it: reality.


peace
genep
#55
Heavenism is just another word for monism. And Monism is just another word for the non-duality of the "Hindu" Advaita. And Advaita  is all about the Samadhi that is Heaven it-SELF.  

Monism is a language in which subject, verb and object appear different with an Awareness that  Heaven makes them all the same: Heaven's fiction, thoughts, words.

A seeker will ask questions about what this language is saying.
An idiot will tell you that it says nothing.
And an intellectual will obviously get upset because subject, verb and object simply cannot be the same.  
And this Heaven it-SELF is simply the Laughter that  makes the idiot perfectly right.
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In Heavenism  this Heaven is all there is. There is no other, there is no doer, only Heaven it-SELF.
Heaven's fiction, words/thoughts,  can HIDE Heaven but this Heaven is so Untouchable, Complete and Content that literally nothing in the universe, no words, can touch it or tarnish it. (Any more than physics' particles can touch or tarnish their  quantum-gaps.)

When thoughts cannot HIDE this Heaven it-SELF then all the universe's miseries and suffering, pain and anguish is simply the perfect balance of all its pleasures. This perfection of  balance personifies the unfathomable Harmony, Freedom and utter Peace  that is Heaven it-SELF.

--  and this is the Supreme Truth because Heaven is all there is, and so there is no other, there is no doer that can agree or disagree with Heaven it-SELF.
#56
Quantum Physics tells us that physics and life is fiction. Reality's fiction.
It tells us the exact same story as did the study of thoughts "the Supreme Science" told the Indus River sages over 5000 years ago: the observer is the observations.
Take physics for anything more than fiction and you are on a wild goose chase to expand the universe just as fast as the thoughts that expand it to create it.
Accept that life and physics is fiction, just thoughts, and literally everything adds up PERFECTLY -- far far beyond our wildest dreams -- to the Unified Field: the timeless NOW, Samadhi, Atman, Nirvana.
#57
Quote from: MilamberI just watched what the bleep do we know,....

So my question is, if we really create our reality, if thoughts do effect matter and reality, how did we originally become stuck in THIS thing we CALL reality? ......
Any opinions on this part of the movie, the combination of thought creating reality, and your brain/mind perceiving a false reality (or just part of reality and not all of it) ?

Physics tells us that the observer determines the observations. Advaita has been trying to tell us the same message for over 5000 years but with different words, like Maya: the observer is the observations – EXACTLY like in a dream.

So life is just our private hallucination, fiction.  
This notion is so strange that it is the Supreme Comedy.
Since "life"  is your fiction, hallucination, nothing matters: you can sit back and laugh as you watch the show, life, or  you can jump right in with reckless abandon as Arjuna did in the Bhagavad Gita ... the Supreme Comedy is that with fiction, hallucinations, actually there is no choice (as Krishna tells Arjuna) because no matter what you think you think there is no control, or thinking, because they are just thoughts, the unites of fiction, like physics, thoughts.  (thus the Gita tells us: there is no doer)
#58
"In the Beginning was the word."  

God did not create the word because the word "god" created god, a word, a thought.
God did not create the universe because, words,  language did.
The Supreme Comedy called life: this  mind and its body is just like the word god: words.
And, indeed, nothing but words make the word "universe"   expand just as fast as the words that feed it to create it.
#59
Quote from: GreenratIs there a ONE univresal mind, dreaming itself as many and separate individualyts???

yes, were all really the same one entity and this is more of an intuition than a beleif.

Physics tells us that the observer determines the observations: This means that life is our hallucination.
If you can laugh at the thought  "I can think" then you will realize that the mind is  the totality of thoughts, the universe, and not just the brain-body that needs the absurd thought  "I can think" to be separate from the universe.

There is no thinking because it is just another thought, of all the thoughts that make up the mind, the universe.
If you can laugh at the thought " I can think"  -- because it  shackles the mind to the brain-body -- then you will Realize that you are Reality that is EVERYTHING and life is just your hallucination that is pure  fiction, like any other fiction, like a movie, TV, novel, computer... hypnosis.

And if you study how all fictions works the same to be the same --  Reality's nothing -- then it will become obvious that the thoughts we call life, mind,  is exactly  like all other fictions, Reality's nothing.
#60
Quote from: ubiquitousI thought that i was alive, my father dead and my thoughts of him are a SUPREME COMEDY.
I like to draw inspiration from this site.
without theories thoughts and memory this computer wouldn't exist or does it not.
....  i

All of mankind's certainties are based on the mother and father of all certainties  the mind has when it is sleep-dreaming.  

The certainty the mind has when it thinks it wakes up in the morning is based on the same certainty it has when it dreams that it is awake in sleep-dreams.
To think that the mind is more certain that it is awake at one time and not another is the supreme-illusion we call life, Maya – mostly because the mind is always dreaming that it is awake.
The mind does not know: I am sleeping;  it only knows: I am awake.

As far as the computer is concerned: it is no more real than it would be in a sleep-dream.
#61
Quote from: InteresantWhy does so many people die from this ? I know the scientific explication ... but why God hurts people who doesn't deserve that .

I know a girl who had a mother that died when she was 3 . Of cancer


I feel so sorry ... so sorry ....

It is a multi-multi-billion dollar racket that makes the organized crime of gambling, prostitution and drugs look respectable.
IF it was not for this racket called Healthcare -- that has nothing to do with "health" -- dying from cancer would  be a good way to go.
#62
Quote from: alexdHow does duality of mind work?

If the mind is ONE entity how can comparative analysis exist in the mind?

For example: As most people read this they will hear an internal voice reading it to them and their mind filtering the information, processing it and making meaning.
How can a speaker and a listener exist both in the mind. Shouldn't the nature of the mind be that it simply listens and comprehends without having to 'read it out to itself'?

Does anyone know any specific information about this?

Thanks
Alex

The Supreme Comedy: on all its limitless levels and fathomless depths nothing in life ever appears to be what it is. Language is this Supreme Comedy ... each person on the face of the earth reads the same words differently, and the same person  will  read the same words differently  minute and minute and second to second.
The Supreme Comedy called language: if there is no way anyone can control the way words are read then  communication is an utter  exercise in futility.
Physics tells us the same story: the observer determines the observations. WHICH MEANS that life is not even our dreams but hallucinations, thoughts, fiction.
The message of this Supreme Comedy:  the mind cannot think because thinking is just a thought.

The mind is just a collection of thoughts one of which is: I can think.
And this "I can think" is the Supreme Comedy called life.

The Hindus figured it out over 5000 years ago; and 5000 years later physics tells us the exact same story: if there is such a thing as thinking then physics would have such a thing as  "particalizing."
#63
Reality is Silence
the Universe is its noise.

There is no duality. Both the Supreme Science and Physics makes this SELF-evident.
The Supreme Science is simply the study of thoughts.   It goes back 5000 years to the sages around the Indus River in India who  used meditation to study their thoughts. (for more info do a Google block search.) The Supreme Science would give us what intellects over the ages have complicated and polluted into  Advaita.
Since there is no duality everything is supremely-simple to understand because there is ONE:  Reality that is EVERYTHING then TWO:  you have Reality's nothing, fiction, thoughts.

Reality is the thoughtless-silence of dreamless-sleep that in the East they call Samadhi, Atman, Brahman.

--   Reality is an unfathomable Ocean of unimaginable BLISS in which the universe is not even an imaginary drop. --

In the West there is no name for it this  Reality, BLISS,  Samadhi.

The mind is just a collection of thoughts called life. Get any more complicated than that, and that complication will be the Big Bang that expands the universe just as fast as the thoughts that feed it to create it.
This Reality is normally beyond the mind because Reality is Silence and thoughts are its noise. Noise, the mind, cannot know Silence.

At times, however, this Reality  surfaces to manifest itself to the mind. It does this with different dilutions and dynamics.
When this Reality surfaces or manifests itself to the mind it is Kundalini. There are no words for it in the West except perhaps Holy Spirit. There are no words for it because doctors call it every mental-disease in their book. They have to because Kundalini makes the mind malfunction.
Kundalini can literally explode with a such unfathomable force-acceleration  that it makes an A-bomb seem like a balloon-pop. And if this seems to be an  exaggeration let me add detail.   When this Kundalini really explodes it  not only makes an atomic-explosion seem like a balloon-pop but  it turns  the Big-Bang of the Universe into a joke – because  with this explosion the universe vanishes into an Unfathomable AWARENESS and thoughtless Silence that is Samadhi.  

At its mortal limit Kundalini  pickles the mind like it did with Buddha.
Kundalini makes the mind malfunction so life more or less becomes what it in REALITY IS, at best  some sort of dream.
Although physics tells us the same simple story of non-duality that the Supreme Science told the Indus River sages 5000 years ago, physicists complicate the dickens out of the thoughts they call particles with theories  and numbers  to keep the universe expanding like the big-bank.

Intellects of "spirituality" have done the exact same thing to Kundalini. They complicate what is Supremely Simple: Kundalini is a manifestation/expression  of Reality to the mind. They complicate this simplicity by coming up with all sorts of formulas, chakras, theories, rituals that try to complicate what is simple, by explaining it with complications.
When the power of Kundalini is strong it can be such an intoxicating 'JOY, BLISS that the mind and its body become relatively meaningless. This is the story of the ecstatic saints/gods like Buddha, Christ, Ramana. But these are the famous ones. Most  individuals that are intoxicated with Kundalini live in isolation. If the medical profession gets a hold of them then the stock prices of drug companies always surge.

But the myth that this Kundalini can only surface according to what society and religions calls its  "good" or "holy" is just that: a myth.

In the Reality of non-duality there is absolutely no reason why  Kundalini cannot intoxicate a serial killer with its BLISS as it does Jesus. Good and bad right and wrong is the mind, thoughts.
Reality, Kundalini does not pick and choose thoughts – it makes them utterly meaningless.

The Bhagavad Gita tries to go beyond morals and values to make us understand  non-duality but it is shackled to the duality of   gods, service, duty, religions and tradition. Hollywood's version of the Bhagavad Gita is Fight Club. It gives us the exact same story the Gita does but there are no gods, values or morals that dilute its unmitigated message of non-duality: that morals and values are just thoughts that to Reality, Samadhi, Kundalini,  is meaningless.
When Kundalini is strong it goes beyond what is SELF-evident to Physics and the Supreme Science.  When Kundalini is strong it makes what is otherwise  SELF-evident   funny, a joke, the Supreme Comedy.  It does this with a lethal-laughter that is Kundalini.

This lethal-laughter is lethal because it kills the ego so that it never takes its thoughts, like life, seriously, ever again. And this is the simple story we call Buddha, Jesus and Ramana.
#64
Quote from: DilmunAnother silly theory...

....

then think about Schizophrenia =)

There is only one silly thing is life and it is life. It is so silly that it is not only funny but the Supreme Comedy ... and the more we take things -- like Schizophrenia -- seriously in the Supreme Comedy   called the mind, and its life, the funnier it gets... until its universal punchline we call death.
#65
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Quantum Philosophy
November 25, 2005, 12:16:20
Quantum Philosophy is a new universal field of knowledge that includes both Quantum Physics  AND all the theology we can imagine under Quantum Theology.

do a google search and you might just laugh
#66
The Supreme Science goes back 5000 years when sages around the Indus River in India used meditation to study their thoughts.
This study of thoughts is the Supreme Science.
It is supreme because every study/knowledge/wisdom mankind has come up with over the ages is based on thoughts -- thus the Study of thoughts is the father and mother of all sciences/humanities: The Supreme Science.
Another word for this study of thoughts is Physics.
Physics calls its thoughts neutrons. The Supreme Science calls its thoughts, thoughts. Otherwise they are exactly the same study.
The thinking that goes with this Supreme Science has been handed down to us as non-duality or the  "not two" called  Advaita.

Advaita means "not two."
This "not-two" means that Reality is a Singularity for which there is no other.
Reality is the singularity of One and its fiction is thoughts, nothing.
Compared to this Reality -- that is literally EVERYTHING -- thoughts are Reality's nothing, fiction.

Physics gives us the same story: Reality is the quantum-gap and neutrons are the quantum-gaps nothing, thoughts that physics calls neutrons.
Like thoughts neutrons can be anything and do anything the thoughts we call words can do/be.
Physics tells us that particles, neutrons, can be anything --  energy or mass, wave or photon or particle, solid, liquid, vapor, electrons, anti-electrons .... but the quantum-gaps are all the same, singularity – the UNIFIED FIELD. WITHOUT the Unified Field --  which is the quantum-gap  -- there would not be neutrons that can masquerade as anything we can imagine.
The Supreme Science tells us the exact same story.
When the mind slows down in the thoughtless-Silence of meditation thoughts can be observed to be exactly like physics' sub-atomic particles, neutrons.
. Between thoughts there are universe-vanishing gaps that are physics' quantum-gaps. I call them universe-vanishing because in these gaps there is no universe because it, the universe,  is just a thought that cannot exist between thoughts.
These gaps make it absolutely impossible for one thought to be connected to another. Physics gives us the exact same story with its quantum-gaps.
Anybody who wants to observe thoughts will quickly discover that thoughts are totally unpredictable. There is absolutely no way we can predict the next thought we will get/be. To explain this unpredictability physics has its Uncertainty Principle.
The next thing anyone can observe about thoughts is that they cannot be observed. Physics tells us the same story about trying to observe its particles. The closer the observer gets to the particles the more certainly they vanish into probability-clouds. The more an observer tries to catch light the more obvious it becomes that the observer is standing still.
When thoughts slow down in meditation they can never be observed because the mind that is observing is the thoughts that are being observed.
Physics tells us that the observer determines the observation. What it should be telling us: the observer determines the observations because it is the observation. JUST LIKE IN A DREAM.
In a dream the observer is the dream. There are no subjects, verbs and objects in dreams – there is only the dream that is also the imaginary observer – the MIND IS THE DREAM.  
So in the silence of thoughtless-meditation the mind is one unpredictable thought and then another, or the memory of a thought – with universe-vanishing gaps in between. The connection of thoughts that we call thinking is thus pure illusion – the exact same illusion these words here need to be connected.
And physics tells us that there is no time ... Advaita also tells us that there is no time and thus memories have to be thoughts. And only because memories are the same as thoughts can the mind switch one with the other depending on its imaginary desires, hormones, needs and wants.  

While Physics gives us the same exact story as does the Supreme Science, Advaita gives us something that Physics can only call its UNIFIED FIELD.
Advaita gives us other words for this same Unified Field. Words like  Atman, Brahman, Self, Samadhi that comes in  different dilutions and with different dynamics called Kundalini that Christians call their Holy Spirit.

This Samadhi is nothing but the Reality of dreamless-sleep.
The words that can point us to the direction of this Singularity, Unified Field called Samadhi:

The Reality of dreamless-sleep called Samadhi is an Ocean of unfathomable Joy/BLISS in which the universe is (not-even) an imaginary drop.
#67
In the thoughtless silence of meditation thoughts can be observed to come and go.
But when these observations are examined closely something becomes more and more obvious: something about the comings and goings of thoughts is fundamentally flawed.

The coming and going of thoughts is fundamentally flawed because there is no comings and goings.  This is because the mind is always the thought that it is trying to observe.  
In the thoughtless Silence of meditation thoughts only appear to come and then they appear to go.
In fact what is happening: In the thoughtless silence of meditation the mind is a thought and then it is another thought, or a memory of a thought... and then another thought/memory.
This flaw of coming and going of thoughts tells us that the mind is the thought and then it is the memory of the thought/s OR:  The mind is what it thinks it thinks be it memories or thoughts.
This flaw of coming and going next tells us that  between thoughts/memories there is a universe-vanishing gap. Physics calls this universe-vanishing gap its quantum-gap.
In the thoughtless silence of meditation these UV-gaps between thoughts/memories become obvious; and what also becomes very obvious is that these UV-gaps make it impossible for one thought to be connected to another.

In the same way the appearance of coming and going is an illusion so is the connection of thoughts. Thoughts can no more be connected than these words here can be connected – the connection of words in a story is pure illusion.
To compliment this illusion that thoughts/words are connected: anyone that tries to observe thoughts (especially  in meditation) will universally realize that there is absolutely no way that someone can predict the next thought the mind appears to get/IS.  

So:  the control of thoughts is an illusion, just like the coming and going of thoughts is an illusion, and just as is the connection of thoughts is an illusion.

What all this adds up to: the mind does not work. The mind is the thoughts that it thinks it thinks when there is no thinking. Thinking is the same illusion as is the coming and going of thoughts, as is the connection of thoughts and also the control of thoughts.

This study of thoughts has been called the Supreme Science. The Supreme Science dates back over 5000 years to the Indus River where/when sages used meditation to study their thoughts. They would give us the non-duality or the "there is no doer" of  Advaita.

If there is no such thing as the control of thoughts then why be concerned with the subject at hand? The answer to this question gives us the Supreme Comedy that we call "life."

If there is no such thing as thinking then the  whole subject of studying anything is meaningless and absurd... because everything to do with the mind, thoughts, is just the Entertainment that is this Supreme Comedy called life. The Hindus called this Entertainment Maya or illusion and/or Lila, a divine-play.

So if one argues that if there is no thinking, and no control of thoughts, then the Supreme Science is utterly absurd – BUT SO IS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS TO DO WITH thoughts, the  MIND, like LIFE. And this is Realization itself.

And so if we are not going to waste our time trying to understand  how thoughts work/don't-work then why waste our time trying to understand anything else that needs thoughts to understand.... again the same Supreme COMEDY, life. In fact this Supreme Comedy called life goes even more supreme when we somehow understand that if there is no thinking then there can be no understanding ... it is all an illusion as is the coming and going of thoughts....

This whole study of thoughts is the supreme absurdity of the Supreme Comedy called life and then Modern Physics comes along to give us the exact same story.

All these words about thoughts, the mind, have nothing to do with thoughts but what makes thoughts possible: Reality.

The UV-gap between thoughts is Reality and the Hindus called it Brahman, Atman, Self, Samadhi and its dilutions Kundalini. Thoughts  somehow dilute the Unfathomable Ocean of BLISS called Samadhi with different dilutions and dynamics called Kundalini, which some call their Holy Spirit.

When this Kundalini somehow explodes from between thoughts it makes the whole universe vanish in the Ocean of BLISS that it is ... and then the mind and its life is universe-vanishingly pure illusion, fiction: the Supreme Comedy.
It was this explosion of Kundalini  that killed/terminated  the mind of the Indian Prince Siddhartha to give us Buddha. It was this same Kundalini that made Krishna, Jesus, Mohammad and Ramana be/radiate the universal-love/JOY/Bliss that they were/are.
PHYSICS
For those who want to understand how their thoughts cannot work we have a modern messenger that the Indus River sages of old did not have: Physics.
It is no coincidence that physics tells/gives-us the exact same story as did/does the Supreme Science.

Physics tells us from every possible direction that time is pure illusion. From its most obvious direction physics tells us that light, energy, has no time and so it cannot travel and yet it travels so fast that it makes everything with time stationary.  I.E. THERE IS NO TIME.

The whole illusion of time is based on the minds ability to create-it/switch-it between thoughts and memories- of- thoughts.  

In the thoughtless-silence of meditation the mind appears to go from/being  thoughts to  memories-of-thoughts.  It is this fundamental fiction that memories are not thoughts that creates the illusion called life, and its outside universe that appears to have a past and future.

Memories have to be thoughts because the mind is the same and it cannot change from being thoughts and then memories of thoughts... and yet it is the illusion that memories are not just thoughts, the mind.

If it is difficult to understand how memories and thoughts have to be the same then Physics tells us the exact same story with its particles that are always waves.

Physics tells us that particles are always waves  even though they cannot be two different things at the same time. And  yet, according to Physics, they are always two different things, particles and waves, until an "observer" or ego  comes along to  determine that they are either particles or waves... or something else, like probability-clouds.

So the study of thoughts leads us to understand what cannot be understood, because there is no thinking, because in fiction, thoughts, there is nothing to understand: that there is no thinking and so life is the Supreme Comedy.
And what makes life the Supreme Comedy is all the aliases of the Self, Consciousness, called egos, that go around thinking they can think  about all the  theories and formulas, truths and lies, that connect the past and future that cannot exist any more than can the thinking that seems to connect what cannot exist ...

And all (these) words  are not about the nothings called fiction, thoughts, minds, but about the Reality without which there would be no thoughts, minds, egos ... the Reality that gives us its fiction that is the Supreme Comedy called life whose universe-vanishing laughter is Kundalini.

-- Kundalini
#68
"By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer Thu Nov 17, 2:51 PM ET

VIENNA, Austria - Right-wing British historian David Irving, who once famously said that Adolf Hitler knew nothing about the systematic slaughter of 6 million Jews, has been arrested in Austria on a warrant accusing him of denying the Holocaust...."
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Deny Jesus, no problem.
Deny God and your just an atheist.
Deny that anything has ever happened, and again, no problem because  your are  just  Enlightened, Awake, Self-Realized.

But deny the Holocaust and you are either a war criminal and are executed,
or you go to jail.
#69
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / there is no doer
November 17, 2005, 11:08:58
Advaita, non-duality, tells us that there is no doer.

No matter how much a mind tries to observe thoughts in meditation
it  can never figure out  what is going on
without physics telling it the exact same story: the mind is what it observes.

With Kundalini, Samadhi, everything is so overwhelmingly (universe-vanishingly) obvious that there is nothing to figure out because
there is no doer
there is no other
there is only thoughts, the mind, and Consciousness, Kundalini.

and this is the supreme truth for the very same reason: there is no other.
-- Kundalini
#70
Who needs to be saved
or self-realized
when one swift kick can kill you
with the Laughter
that sends Buddha, Jesus, Allah and Ramana,
and all their devils and demons,
flying far beyond
the goal-post called life.

-- Kundalini

postmortem:
"So they tanned K's hide when he died Clyde
and that's it hanging on the Self."
#71
death makes life matter.

death to mind
death to body
is the Same
Awakening

death is mind
as is matter
that is born to die
to be Awake

rebirth is mind
as is matter
that is born to die
to be Awake.

death makes life matter.

death to mind
death to body
is the Same
Awakening

(called)
- Kundalini
#72
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / OBE and the mind
October 22, 2005, 19:28:04
Quote from: malimFascinating article you have posted,

you are correct about alot of things such as the bliss and happy state.

i believe our consciousness is from a different world and might have been put here through a quantum black hole or something.

you remind me of an OBE that i had couple of years ago,...............

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When I started meditating I had some weird feelings that I was going "out of body." I read everything on the subject ( eg 4+ books by Robert Monroe alone.)  Nothing happened for a year or so and then I had three dreams/OBE experiences that made me laugh. Since then I don't take my thoughts/dreams seriously.

#1  OBE – I was sleeping in my recliner and I dreamed I was lying on the floor. When I opened my eyes, in the dream, I was looking up at the recliner and there was no body sleeping there.
#2 The same scenario but this time when I opened my eyes I looked up from the floor to see my body in the recliner.
#3 The same scenario but this time when I opened my eyes I was still in the recliner looking down at the empty floor (that I thought I was looking up from.)

After these 3 OBE dreams/? I know that the mind will give me what it wants, and what it wants/dreams, or cares about,  I could care less.

For me, life is a big dream with all sorts of dreams, OBEs and astral-travels, and dreams inside of dreams like movies, and novels and computers, hypnosis and drugs   ... inside these dreams.

Now when I go out walking at night I  just pretend that I'm "out of body" – it's exactly the same but a hell of a lot more real/fun.

-- another dream
#73
seek until you get sick and tired

then you might just Realize,
and perhaps even die laughing,
that you were only seeking yourself.

When I explode
to vanish thoughts
nothing questions or doubts
That I AM,
EVERYTHING

-- Kundalini

Without thoughts YOU ARE and I AM and ALL IS  this Kundalini
that can easily kill you, the mind,  with Laughter.
It is the Reality of dreamless-sleep
that some call the Holy Spirit, Samadhi
#74
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / the real black-hole
October 20, 2005, 14:04:52
In a sleep dream the mind is locked into the dream because it is the dream.
No matter how absurd or unreal a dream is, there is no way the mind can figure out that it is the dream, unless it is part of the dream.

What about the awake state we call life?  Can life get so unreal that the mind can figure that it cannot be real and thus it must be unreal, just like a dream?

This question bothered sages around the Indus River in India over 5000 years ago: Is the mind locked into life just as certainly as it is locked into a dream?

Their null hypothesis was: no matter how unreal life gets there is no way the mind can figure out that it/life is just the mind, a dream.

A few of these sages SPENT years trying to figure out if there was any difference between  sleep-dreaming and being awake, life.

They observed how their mind worked when it slowed down in thoughtless-meditation. When they compared notes they ALL  agreed UNIVERSALLY  that they could not observe thoughts in thoughtless meditation because the mind was the thoughts that it was observing.
They also ALL  agreed UNIVERSALLY that thoughts were completely disconnected (with universe-vanishing quantum-gaps ) and that they were totally unpredictable. Modern Physics would echo these exact same findings 5000 years later with quantum-gaps and the Uncertainty Principle. .

Since the mind was the thoughts it was trying to observe, and since thoughts were disconnected by quantum-gaps, and totally unpredictable, these sages figured that there was no such thing as thinking because it was just a thought. And if there was no thinking then life was exactly like a dream ... and no  matter how unreal this life gets it always has to appear real.

But then what was this dream called life all about if it was all just the mind, a dream?
They thought when there was no such thing as thinking and this only made them think even more about what this dream/life was all about if there was no such thing as thinking....if the mind did not work then what was it all about... ?

There was one  sage who was obsessed with trying to figure out what this mind and its body was all about with its non-thinking. And it took him several years to digest all this thinking  that he  thought he was doing about his non-thinking mind ... and when he sort of defecated all this digested material out he erupted suddenly in unfathomable JOY and uncontrollably-insane Laughter.
He told his fellow sages with the utmost of Joy that Reality was this laughter/Joy  and the mind/life  was Reality's  fiction called seeking, "trying to understand," this defecation of digested-thoughts that was/is  this Laughter and Joy.  

This insane-laughter and unfathomable JOY has been called Kundalini, the Holy  Spirit or Consciousness or Samadhi. Its knowledge has been handed down to us diluted by intellectuals and their scriptures and gods and their religions as the non-duality of Advaita.

It would take 5000 years before mankind would find something that was like this  Consciousness, Kundalini.  
It is  called a black-hole.
Consciousness is like a black-hole and thoughts,
the mind/life-dreams,
are like  planets/galaxies appearing only  to disappear
into this Reality which is the  black-hole of thoughts
called Consciousness.
#75
Welcome to Dreams! / dreams: the ultimate challenge
September 24, 2005, 12:19:23
If you think you can think then give your mind the ultimate-challenge.

To make this challenge worthwhile, promise your mind that if it meets this challenge it will realize the ultimate-reward.  
The ultimate-challenge: If your mind thinks it can think then tell it to figure out how dreams work.

Tell it that it can use whatever tools it wants to figure out how dreams work. Tell your mind that it  can use all the tools and methods of science, religions and humanities to figure out how the subject, verb and objects in a dream are all the same and yet they appear different.

This is the ultimate-challenge and also the ultimate-reward.

To figure out how dreams work the mind will have to figure out how it, the mind, works.

First it will find a hole or two in the way it works. And then when it explores these holes they will grow in size and numbers.   And when it figures out how these holes make up the picture, the dream,  it will realize more and more that there are even more holes in the picture... until there are/is nothing but holes and no picture.

When the picture vanishes then everything will fall into place and  the laughter will be lethal to the mind and its  material world. And then the body will have to drop into the background to let spirituality flourish far-far beyond even YOUR wildest dreams. And this is the ultimate-reward.