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#501
Greetings ADJIN
First off I am somewhat confused. Do you think that your experience was a full OBE, a partial OBE or some type of a lucid dram?
So apparently much of what happened was confusing. Yet if the experience was a lucid dream (or any type of dream for that matter) then it is likely that all the people that you encountered were thought forms (= creations of your own mind).
Yet if you had an OBE then maybe one (or all) of those people were 'really" there (= had an objective existence outside of and apart from your mind.)
In either case I suggest Not getting too worked up about this. Unless there is some type of actual physical relationship between you and this girl then there should be nothing to be worried about.

Sincerely  :-)
Grey
#502
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hey!
November 06, 2011, 22:08:36
Greetings TheJish
The paralyzed body state that you experienced is called Sleep Paralysis (SP). SP is actually very common and is sometimes an indication that an OBE is about to occur naturally or that one can be induced deliberately.
So, yes, you were close to having an OBE. If you can find an induction method and stick with it for a few weeks than you might well manage to get out of body.

Good Luck  8-)
Grey
#503
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hello
November 04, 2011, 22:27:52
Greetings Flynn.
Fear is The biggest obstacle that most people must overcome in order to successfully get out of body. Actually any strong emotions, including positive ones, can inhibit an OBE. Szaxx is correct as repeated experiences will eventually overcome the fear barrier. And anyways Most people need several, or many, attempts before managing to get OOB. So try to remain positive, be patient and keep trying!

Good Luck  :-)
Grey
#504
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hello All
November 04, 2011, 22:23:54
Greetings dersino/Andy and welcome.
Being new here you probably have some questions about OBEs. Take a look at the topics in the "Welcome to the Astral FAQ" forum and you'll find a Lot of info that will answer many of those questions.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#505
Greetings Thera and welcome.
You might want to read some of the topics in the "Welcome to the Astral FAQ' forum. The info to be found there will surely answer some of your questions as well as provide ideas and methods for deliberating inducing an OBE.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#506
Greetings and a hearty welcome here DSilverfox  :-D

I look forward to reading your posts in  the forums.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#507
Greetings ZenSoulStar
It is good that you have joined us here. I look forward to reading your posts in the forums.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#508
Greetings Neotist and welcome.
May I suggest that you take a look at the threads in the "Welcome to the Astral FAQ" forum. The info there will answer some of your questions and provide ideas and proven effective methods for deliberately inducing an OBE.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#509
Greetings jkjk8991
Kudos for trying to go to Astral Pulse Island. Even though you did not manage to get here at least you did try. And apparently came reasonably close to actually getting there!

Cheers  8-)
Grey
#510
Hallo omcasey
Just one or two quick thoughts here.
Those "whisps" of layers you referred to are, probably more times than not, incomplete memory. I find it Much easier to remember those parts of an OBE that are closest to a waking physical world experience. And I tend to forget those experiences that are truly ethereal or other worldly, Of course there are always exceptions but, in general, this is most likely the case.
Thought transference (mind reading, telepathy, ESP, etc). is quite common in non-physical locations. So it could be that those people Did read your mind, especially as cb is still important to you.
The Rodney Brown thing might be a case of those people erroneously trying to read your mind and coming up with misinformation.  :?

Regards  8-)
Grey
#511
Hallo Aaron
Your experience highlights the uncertainty between dreaming and being out of body (OBE). As you probably know there is a lot of disagreement about whether lucid dreaming (and dreaming in general) is the same as having an OBE.
Many people believe that a lucid dream and an OBE are the same. Some might take your experience to support that argument. Since you are unsure over whether the experience was a dream or an OBE might seem to strengthen that idea.
However, I strongly believe that a lucid dream (or any dream) is fundamentally different than an OBE or an AP (astral projection).
Before going into that any further let me answer your questions.

You asked
QuoteMy question is did I switch from dream state and project out of my body? And if so, do you think she must have projected while dreaming? (she seemed to still be sleeping on the bed)

I believe that, Yes, you did project out of body. Although apparently you were not completely conscious of being out of body. From personal experience I have NEVER had a dream that began with me floating (or rolling) out of my physical body. As to your IM chat friend being out of body too. Yes that is distinctly possible. Yet she could also have been a construct of your own mental process, meaning she may have been only a thought elemental.

Your second question
QuoteAlso, If I project and stay on the physical plane, would I be able to travel across the country in my astral body and see someone? (I know I won't be able to speak to them and they won't be able to see me)

Yes, absolutely. This has been done and documented by astral travelers hundreds of times. There are Many reports of people out of body visiting family or friends and correctly observing what those (physical) people were doing while they were hundreds or thousands of miles away at the time.

Now let me quickly outline the difference between a dream and an OBE.
A dream happens either inside a person's head/brain or takes place in a non-physical location known to some as the dream plane. Most of what happens in a dream (or lucid dream) is a creation of the dreamer's thought processes.
An OBE is an event where the consciousness (soul/spirit/astral body/etc) leaves the confines of the physical body. An OBE can take place on the physical plane or it can happen in any of the non-physical locations that are variously known as the astral plane, ethereal plane, focus areas or Belief System Territories.
Some could argue that the Dream plane and the Astral plane are the same non-physical location making the experience of going out of body (OBE) the same as dreaming or lucid dreaming. It has been my experience, however, that there IS a difference between an astral plane and a dream plane. This difference, or lack there-of,  seems to be a never ending point of debate and I won't go into detail here. Anyways my post has been too overlong already and I wish to thank you for bearing with me.

Hope this helps, regards  8-)
Grey
#512
Greetings Soulgoo and welcome.
It is my understanding that there is no single 'right' way to meditate. There are Many different ways to meditate. Some May be better than others but the most important thing is that the individual find which way is best for him or her.
Currently I practice visualization meditations, a healing type of meditation and an occasional meditation that includes music. From time to time I will try other, more structured, types of meditation but to date have not found anything that is worth practicing regularly.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#513
Greetings merkaba1111
Lucid dreams can be fantastic experiences. Currently I am focusing on transitioning (or converting) lucid dreams into OBEs and APs. So far I have had some successes and believe that this method should be the easiest and most effective way to induce OBEs.
btw it is possible to get your own online dream journal here in the "Welcome to Dreaming" Forum.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#514
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hello
October 23, 2011, 09:50:55
Greetings Voltur Rahmahn and welcome
It's a pleasure to welcome an experienced traveler. :-D
One suggestion is to take a look at some of threads in the "Welcome to the Astral FAQ" forum. You are no doubt familiar with some of the topics there yet some of the info might be new and useful.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#515
Greetings omcasey
From the description of the location that you visited out of body it is possible that the place is some type of non-physical learning center, perhaps in a belief system territory (BST)(or in a focus 27). Your description of this place is consistent with other 'travelers' who have been to that location, or others similar to it.
Several well known authors have reported being to non-physical places that were apparently either education or healing centers. Both Robert Monroe and Bruce Moen have written of such places.
The one thing that I am unsure about is the presence of Thomas Campbell. Did you actually see him there? or was it only his voice as if on a CD or tape?

Regards  8-)
Grey
#516
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hello!
October 21, 2011, 13:58:48
Greetings XkeltonX and welcome.
Yes, fear is most likely The greatest barrier to overcome before getting out of body. You seem to have come to terms with that fear and so, at some point, hopefully sooner than later, you will get past that obstacle.
Actually many OBEs, even a person's very first OBE, occur spontaneously without any deliberate effort. So being open to that possibility and aware that an OBE could happen at any time is Very important.
Hopefully you will experience your first OBE quite soon.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#517
Hallo Linaeve
Congratulations on your first successful OBE.  :-D That must have been very exciting.
It is surprising how many people think that they are awake and then are shocked to find that they are actually out of body.  :-o Many times this shocking realization only occurs after they see their physical body lying asleep in bed.
btw for future experiences be advised that strong emotions often prematurely end an OBE. Also close proximity to the physical body can also cut short an OBE.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#518
Greetings Veryala/Abby
Your problem is something that many people also experience when out of body (OOB). I do have trouble going through walls so try to go through a glass (or preferably screen) window when getting outside.
"Reality fluctuations' may not be the problem here. It could be that your consciousness when OOB is extremely sensitive to physical object and so becomes confused and disoriented when passing through door, walls or windows.
My suggestion is to pick a familiar location in advance, someplace that has emotional ties (like a relative's or close friend's house). And next time OOB attempt to project/teleport yourself there. This would skip that troublesome step of having to travel directly through a wall, door or window. Now this may require several attempts but if successful then you will have acquired a very important and advanced OOB skill.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#519
Greetings jkjk8991
First off hardy congratulations are in order. You are the first person to visit Astral Pulse Island in more than 6 months, maybe a year or longer. And the experience with the dragon was WAY cool  8-)
I have tried for several years to get to API (either in an OBE/AP or a dream) but, unfortunately, have Not been able to do so.  Just about when I am ready to call it quits and consider API to be nothing more than a fantasy or wishful thinking someone actually manages to get there!   :-o And so it is again I renew my interest in API and believe it to be an objective location made Real by the thoughts and experiences of those who have been there.  :wink:

Hardy Cheers  :-D
Grey
#520
Hallo ElectromagneticMan
I think that it is normal to find oneself in a past residence when out of body. In fact this has happened to me several times. For no apparent reason I have found myself in places where I used to live years ago including a location that was hundreds of miles away from where I was currently living physically. And I also tend to think that you had an OBE and not a dream btw. The vibrations are usually an accurate indication that an OBE is about to occur.
Also unusual noises, including voices, are quite common phenomena. It may have been due to acute hearing that sometimes is a 'side affect' of OBEs. Meaning you may have heard either nearby physical people, or else discarnate spirits.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#521
Greetings KilltheInfected
Your first OBE was similar to my first OBE in many ways. Those thought processes when out of body (OOB) for the first time Are very peculiar indeed and are hard to describe in words! It is as if one part of you Must accept the experience as real because it is happening at that time and you Must trust your own senses. Yet nothing you can read about or hear about truly prepares you for the completely foreign sensations of being OOB for the first time.
I think that you handled that first OBE quite well btw. You remained calm and that was important because extreme emotions, especially fear, usually prematurely end an OBE.
Also, levitation indoors and flight outdoors are actually two very different experiences. Levitation indoors is interesting and pleasurable. Flying outdoors is Much better and can be truly amazing. So I recommend trying to get outside and test your flight skills next time OOB and see what I mean.  :wink:

Regards  8-)
Grey
#522
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: hi
October 15, 2011, 22:52:18
Hallo sadie6c and welcome.
I consider you both fortunate and spiritually gifted. I too can go out of body from time to time but it is a relatively rare occasion. And to have a lot of discarnate friends on 'the other side ( =
Quotehave a lot of friends over in the land of the dead
) is quite rare. So obviously you Must know a lot about OBEs and astral projection. I look forward to reading your posts in the forums here.

Regards  :x
Grey
#523
Hallo Linaeve
I agree with light487 in that a lucid dream Is definately a valid experience. I believe that LDs and OBEs Are different but that is Not very important here. What is important was the encounter that you had with the young man and any message/communication that took place between the two of you. If this is what was important to you at that time then, yes, that is what you should have been looking for (and perhaps should be looking forward to happening again.)

Regards  8-)
Grey
#524
Hallo c0sm0nautt
Very interesting OBE, thanx for sharing it.
Actually it sounds more like an AP. I am pretty sure that wherever it was that you visited does Not have a counterpart on physical Earth. The honeycomb could have been an astral BST inhabited by discarnate alien beings. The stadium seemed more Earth-like but maybe from some type of parallel or alternate Earth.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#525
Hallo AuntFlo
To answer your question
QuoteHave any of you ever seen your own astral body integrate back into your physical?
No, that has never happened to me. I Have experienced dual consciousness during an OBE on several occasions. Including one time when I was simultaneously aware of being out of body And being near sleep physically And also being in a dream!
Your experiences are indeed quite special and unusual.
btw Do you experience OBEs while being wide awake? This is also something that I have read about in other peoples' accounts but have not experienced myself.

Regards  8-)
Grey