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#501
My vibrations are starting to get worse and worse now, pretty cool feeling actually.
I gather it wont be long till I exit.  I also lost most of my fears of AP'ing now
#502
Quote from: Psan on March 07, 2010, 09:54:27
Then perhaps you should not do all that when in vibe state ...
Sometimes doing too much achieves too less. Rope/log/ladder etc etc are means to strengthen intention and keep the awareness alive, when the natural process of separation is going on. Taking it too literally will not work.

If you easily manage to get to the vibes while being fully lucid and aware, just let it happen, keeping a slightly curious and neutral state of mind. Relaxing a bit more, but not too much, and just passively observing. It works for me sometimes. :)
How much time (roughly) do you spend vibrating before you exit??
#503
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 07, 2010, 13:03:22
I would fall into the second 2 categories. I'm here to explore!  8-)
It sounds like perhaps its not hell then, since you seem to enjoy it :)

I'm wondering if there's even lower astral planes (like negative planes or something) that you havent found yet
#504
I read somewhere that beings in the lowest astral planes are in hell for a variety of reasons.
Some of them are:

1. Fear of God and going into the Light because all their crimes and sins will be exposed.
2. People waiting for loved ones to die also, when they really should be loving God more than their family.
3. People clinging to material goods, money...etc
#505
I have a theory that the lower astral planes are hell, and the higher ones are heaven.

Would you somewhat agree with that??
#506
Quote from: Anemani on March 07, 2010, 09:53:31
I tried to ap last night using the binaural beats last night, but it was too cold. I do not even think I got much sleep last night
If you cant sleep because your body wants to AP, try not sleeping on your back, only on your sides.  the body seems to wanna enter OBE much easier when you sleep on your back
#507
I'm at the point now where I can open my eyes during the vibrations for a few seconds, then close them again and pick up right where I left off.  Pretty cool.

Also if anyone has any good links for meditation trance music audio then please post them.
I checked some torrent sites but they're confusing because they contain music from some Israeli band called 'Astral Projection'
#508
For those in the Toronto area, I found this place that sells crystals and other goodies: http://www.gemcapital.ca/quartz/quartzhealing.html

I'm gonna go check them out next week  :-P
#509
^^  Thanks AP, I'll look into that.

I almost exited last night.  Close but no cigar.  I'm getting closer though.
I also noticed there's a lot of magnetic gravity holding your exit back
#510
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 05, 2010, 15:37:04
There are a lot of good ones. Just look through a bunch and try and use your instincts to pick ones that you like.
And then what do you do with the crystal??  Place it in the room??  Wear it around your neck??

Sorry to ask so many questions Kurt, but us noobies are trying to pick your brain  :lol:
(I dont mean literally pick your brain in astral planes)  :-D
#511
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 05, 2010, 15:14:22
eBay
Can you post a link to some of the better vendors??
#512
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 05, 2010, 13:15:53
You may have to spend a little more time raising your energy. It's tough to do without crystals and all the stuff I use. It used to take me about 60 minutes to raise my energy naturally. Now I just power up my generators and the energy flows like a river.
Where can I buy these crystals??
#514
There's the:

Rope technique
Roll-over technique
Steam method

All kinds of them, read more here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4164970/66-Astral-Projection-Techniques
#515
I'm gonna try to exit via the "Rope Technique": http://www.realmagick.com/articles/03/1003.html

This article claims it should take no longer than 15 minutes
#516
I'm now at the point at night where my body constantly wants to AP while I'm trying to get to sleep.
A little annoying, I have to keep telling my body to go to sleep and not OBE.  I also take melatonin now or I wont sleep at all
#517
Quote from: Anemani on March 04, 2010, 19:15:51
I think my body is fighting it or something. I think I was closer this time, but my body would twitch as I started to feel like I was going higher. my head started to hurt too, but not much.
Stick with it, even if it takes a year or two.  
I was told once you break the barrier for the first time it becomes easier with every AP after that.

I'm not gonna quit till I exit, even if that takes 10 years
#518
Quote from: Anemani on March 04, 2010, 17:35:56
I have not exited yet but the shaking will come after the vibrations and floating feeling, which is about 30-40 mins I believe.... from the moment I start to the time that I stop trying.
You are at the exact same point as me then.  I'm still too chicken to exit, but I gotten to the shaking part now.
But thats when I stop.  Its still babysteps for me right now, no need to rush into this.

It only takes me 15 to 20 minutes to start shaking though, I'm told I have a knack for AP'ing
#519
Yup, you nearly had an OBE but stopped just before you exited.
There's nothing to be afraid of, nobody has ever died from OBE.

I know thats easier said than done though
#520
Quote from: Anemani on March 04, 2010, 08:50:31
Has anyone else been getting chills just whenever since starting this? I keep getting them randomly.
I get those sometimes also. 
I heard thats your 3rd eye thats woken up and remaining somewhat active even when you're not AP'ing.

How long from the moment you start shaking is it to your exit (roughly)??
#521
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 04, 2010, 06:47:49
Can you project into the real time zone at will?

If so we should try projecting at the same time to see if we can see each other.
I was wondering this also, if you're with your girlfriend in the same room AP'ing at the same time, can you then talk to each other while you're both AP'ing??
#522
Another interesting side-effect of AP'ing is I'm seeing light and colors much brighter
#523
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 18:04:03
My theory is that you feel the buzzing as you move from physical to non-physical, because you have nothing concrete/stable to focus on in-between, so you perceive the shifting energy (and energy moves in waves at particular frequencies).  If you have felt the buzzing, maybe you feel it increase then you feel/hear a pop, then feel like you're rising or floating but not going anywhere else, at that point you just need to roll over or somersault and you're out.
How long does it usually take you from the time you start till the time you exit??
One hour?? 2 hours?? Longer??
#525
Quote from: Anemani on March 03, 2010, 15:45:18
Pentecostal so am I but I am more understanding about things because of the way I grew up. I was not always Pentecostal though.
If your parents ever do give you a hard time for AP'ing remind them of 2 Kings and the story of Elisha who was AP'ing himself. 
Unless they feel Elisha is spending eternity in hell right now for it, something I dont believe btw