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#551
Welcome to Integral Philosophy! / What is love?
April 12, 2003, 01:39:22
Here's some things I came up with whilst struggling to sleep one night:

Love is not just an emotion. It is a force as well. It is also an energy, and not just that, the emotion generates energy. It is so many things and yet so many different things, but all defined by one word. There are different levels of love. Love you give by helping others. Love of two people's passions and caring for one another. And then the love of an object or feeling.

But the question is, do I love myself? Does anybody love themselves? I'm not even sure if I know who I am anymore...things seem to start crumbling away. Who am I? Why am I the way I am? I lie, I cheat, I hurt people, but at the same time, I make others happy, I love, I care. There are so many different aspects of me I don't know which one I am at any present time. Do humans have split personalities? Who are we?
#552
I've talked about this already in Auraseer's topic, but I'll summarise in here. Bulging veins depends on a number of factors, but energy development does have an impact on bioenergy. I mean even wearing a watch on a hot day can make the veins on that particular arm bulge out.

Later
-FT
#553
An answer to your question - yes. Blood, in my opinion, does contain energy. According to my beliefs, everything has energy, including the tiniest ameoba.

But the veins bulging out result from a lot of various factors, all of which could possibly relate to eachother. Internal and external heat, for example (internal being body heat). The foods you eat, whether or not you've been excercising or not, your excitement/adrenalin levels, etc.

I wouldn't get too hyped up about it though, but energy development does have a significant impact on bioenergy(possibly mostly related to blood, etc.).

Later
-FT
#554
Yes I've also heard that bad things and good things happen because we subconsciously want them to. The internal dialogue being our way of preserving this reality is quite interesting. And the fact that some of your thoughts aren't your own...also very interesting.

But perhaps humankind wasn't always a seperated consciousness. Perhaps back at the Beginning we were one concsious being, possibly created by The Source, and then because The Source's worlds had little or no meaning to our confused mind, we were placed in a realm in which we could learn - Eden. But of course, we strived for the knowledge of only the physical realm: science. That is when we got kicked out of Eden, and left on our own to evolve until the time came when we came back to The Source and learnt of our spirituality again. Perhaps the time is soon when the physical WILL melt away, possibly replaced by another.

Time will tell[:)]

Peace and all
-FT
#555
You're writing a book? What's it about? I'll have a look at this website some other time, I'm really tired at the moment and not in one of my spiritual modes right now so I probly won't be able to digest it all.

Later
-FT
#556
Ahh yes Psipog. Great articles there. Morons who write them though, sometimes [:P]. I also read the article on asking your subconscious. It's wierd, but your subconscious knows a lot. It's talking to you right now, but you just aren't hearing it because the internal dialogue and other surface concsious thoughts are in the way. You can talk to your subconcsious quite heavily during meditation or some level of trance, and some people have developed relationships with their own subconcsious minds.

Go to www.psipog.net and find the article on the subconcsious. It also has a link in it that leads you to another article on another website about the same subject.

Later
-FT
#557
Mmm two weeks. That's progress. I've spent a month or more on the NEW system, but really I guess the amount of practice I've done might not be as much as yours. My right leg is a pain right now and I'm finding it difficult to feel energy movement sensations in the entire right leg and foot areas. Meanwhile it takes a few waves of awareness on my left leg and I feel so excited I have to concsiously relax my leg for more awareness to move.

My arms and hands I haven't done much work on seeing as my right leg just won't respond. Any help on this?
#558
Yes Kakkarot you're right. An Undine is a water-elemental spirit. I'm not sure exactly how they look, but they are usually seen as being female, and naked. According to a lot of cultures and myths, the Undine is seen to be quite demonic in nature every now and then, but it usually means well.

About the neg leaving, that's probably the most likely thing that happened. Sometimes Negs can react quite "violently"(for lack of a better word) to countermeasures, and cause quite a bit of psychic attack before they decide to leave.

Well I'm glad you sorted out your neg problems, I still have my own to deal with [B)]
#559
Heh I got some magnolia sticks with the holder for 2 bucks. I'm going to buy some more for a bit of variety soon[:)]
#560
Aww dammit! I wish I was that far in NEW. I still need to do pileloads of work on my legs, especially my right one, and let's not even get started on my arms!! Although, I really think I should set up more time during the day. Heh. I would if I could. School work drives me insane [xx(] and I still got a book to read AND do a review on!
#561
Usually any sort of water is a sign of protection and purity. Running water generates this energy and repels negative entities(Negs).

That is why I doubt the presence of a Neg, except for one that can telepathically interfere with your now-vivid dreams. There is also the possibility of an Undine at work, as they can be quite demonic sometimes. Usually though the Undine would listen if you told it/asked it to leave.

Though I'm not sure how you'd communicate with it....

Later
-FT
#562
Thanks for the feedback

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-FT
#563
Heh well I don't know what to believe. I believe in the higher power, or The Source, but I don't believe that any religion is wholly right about it and I don't really think that we have to worship it in such a strict manner.

Evolution and God don't really seem to mix, unless you sort of formulate an entirely new theory. I'd rather not know the answer right now, it's all too confusing.

Later
-FT
#564
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Deleted
March 29, 2003, 16:12:06
Thanks it really cleared up things a lot.

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-FT
#565
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Deleted
March 29, 2003, 13:16:40
Wow this is a mighty-full pot of gold of ideas and lessons[:D].

But could somebody please start to summarise the thoughts and lessons here? I mean I can think long and hard about an idea, but there are so many here and so many sayings and confusing ways they are put together that although the lessons are incredibly useful, I find that theres just a great big mess of puzzle pieces waiting to be put together that I can't seem to reach.

So far I've learnt that one should be careful what one says, as others have egos that are easily damaged, and once an ego is damaged, it causes a reaction. Egos are the fragility and concept of having an image and protecting that. Reputations are the result of an ego. Some egos are easily damaged by simply presenting an idea, usually in the wrong way, or even if you said it the right way, people don't accept change, as their minds are closed.

I'm gonna be rereading this for days now... I think this is probably one of the wisest posts I've read in a long time.
#566
I've been going through the NEW system for about a month or so now proper, and I haven't heard any bad side-effects. Increased psychic sensitivity is not a bad thing. Although it might make you more vulnerable to Negs, you can still fight them off with countermeasures given in Practical Psychic Self-Defense, that is, if anything unnatural arises.

Stimulating the hands does have the effect of "opening" the hand chakras and exchange ports, but what's this about energy having a mind of its own? Never heard of that concept. Well whatever works, works[:)]. What I do when I _try_ to heal somebody(I haven't done any healing training whatsoever...I sort of made it up as I went along[:P]) I prestimulate the hands and maybe the arms, and shift my awareness from my hands into the wounded area, _feeling_ it go into the substance of their etheric body. This usually works, but it can be difficult if the person is unwilling or doesn't know you well enough to drop his/her natural psychic barriers to the extent that energy can go into them.

Again, that was my own theory I concocted(sp?), so feel free to correct me if any mistakes(and there will be) are made.
#567
Umm okay that was random.

I have the same sort of problem...I fall asleep! I think it's just sleep deprivation that's causing it. I go to bed a little earlier each night nowadays and it seems to be improving a little[:)]
#568
Thanks for the feedback Tom!

Well now I'm motivated to do it at night to get rid of it! Now I'm sort of modivated to do it at night [:)]
#569
Hmm you seem to have a lot of natural ability. Look into some energy practices that teach you about the workings of the energy body, such as Yoga. Also, look into NEW Energy Ways - it has a little bit about the energy body and how it works, but in a more down-to-earth way of telling you about it.

Hope you can sort it out and control it, you seem to have great potential. But of course you still need to learn about it and harness it properly just like everyone else[;)]

Good luck with that
-FT

p.s. - Common misconception: confusing energy ABILITY with POWER. Energy is not a power. It is an ability. Having natural ability with something is TALENT, not having POWERS. POWERS can be gained, but not through the vast amount of training and research a SKILL (aka ability) recquires. I know it isn't a big deal, but I get loads of crap at school from people who ask me to use my "psychic mind powers" and whatnot, and the word "power" has begun to annoy me[xx(]
#570
Hmm...spoony [:P] good one.

But how did something as immature as "George Bush is a gay fag and I don't like him" turn into this?

I would make up 'swearwords' of my own but I can't...not exactly the most creative person on the planet[:P]
#571
Well I read something SORT OF like this in Astral Dynamics. The Strobe Effect.

If you don't know what it is, I'll breifly explain. Basically, the strobe effect is when you see a bright white light or something like that and you feel like something ethereal is "punching" your face, but it doesn't hurt. The light is a result of the brow centre activating...I think...and the "punch" feeling is caused by the energy structures in your neck and head sending serges of energy to the brown and crown centres...

Hmm I can't remember the details. But maybe this is a sign of progress, maybe not. I'd suggest a bit of investigation into the subject, through hands on experience, studying other people's case histories, and just researching other books etc.

Sounds to me like you have great clairvoyant potential...but I've never really heard of this happening before...

Later
-FT
#572
The left side also tends to respond quicker or better than the right side for most people[:)]
#573
Hmm well lately I've been posting stuff like this too much so I'm gonna scrap all of them cause by now half this forum probably hates me cause I'm an moron.

Deleting...
#574
Stupid topic. Nevermind. Deleting....
#575
Oh my God you must be the most retarded person on this planet to ask something that stupid.

OF COURSE WE DO!! Things wake us up, DBZ-boy. Honestly...how illogical can you get?