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quote:That's all true, and I believe it all ties into hiding yourself from God and the world, and protecting yourself from hurt (you project a certain image so that people will like you, do things for you, etc..).

Thank you Paul. And you are right about how it all ties in together.I never had to take those kinds of journeys. I've always looked at things from God's point of view.

Gee Gandalf,
I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I was trying to smooth the ripples of dissent, at least in my own mind. I'm guilty.
I'm into mind language. I don't know a thing about what goes on in churches, let alone any doctrine! If it comes out sounding like that, I must be on the right track.

Churches have a sytem of one mind. I'm very into christian beliefs. I practice my own faith independently. I was only clarifying a point reguarding a reference to a loose use of terms. When a church (one mind) has a set standard of meanings of names, it's important that off shoots or varients from this be recognized. I was only making that point clear.

As far as homosexuality goes, I have no opinion what so ever on the matter. I was only reading the thread.

The Holy Spirit has a meaning to each person in their own way. Misunderstandings occur when one person uses a collective term for their own use or point. That's a pretty common thing to happen. Just keeping it in prospective.Maybe I was out of line.

The church was never intended to build esteem or be the unconditional love that so many think they have been cheated out of.

There is duality in christianity.However, there are better sources outside this area to study duality.


There are many people who think as you on this metaphor on nudity. Is there a clash, in finding these same ones who also delve into duality?

Clothing is about protection if that's what you associate it with. Believe it or not, clothes are more commonly seen as a person's perception. To say it represents your protective layers speaks more about the fact that you yourself have built your own protective layers. Interpretation of something is important. Learning of oneself helps you to understand more.

I study metaphors. Interesting that you should bring up marriage. My latest notion seems to fit that it's about those things in our life that we cannot undo.

Questions about Satan? Start by looking at it on a smaller scale.

I think you have to be able to identify what is man's nature and what is not man's nature. What is earth energy and what is spirit?

Sometimes you have to look within yourself, then expand out your search. Sometimes it is not found in a book or a tribe.  

Oops! Almost forgot to mention this MustardSeed. This piece you just wrote is excellent. I identify totally with everything you said.
Making the right choices have been very much my life journey too.
It pays off in the long run. I have the same questions you have though.

quote:The Bible stands on it's own quite well.

exothen, good statement.


http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8258
This is the link I was telling you about MS.

It may need a little further explaination, but I have to run out of town for awhile. When I get a chance, I'll explain more of what I'm talking about.

One thing I can say now is this. In this same dream book is the meaning of mountain. However, it doesn't fit necessarily in this circumstance of explaining something. This very thing is the cause of some confusion about learning how to understand your own meanings.
We all have unique meanings to our subconscious messages (in form of dreams often). Mountain, to this particular author meant something from her prospective. Learning how to learn your own subconscious language is what I'm trying to get across.

The exciting part is that I have been able to get answers to things that happened in my life by interpreting them like a dream. That's why, when I get a chance to read of any of your experiences, maybe I can pick up a hidden meaning or understanding.

Beth, Your spiritual journey sounds fascinating. We all struggle with concepts and ideas. It's great you opened yourself up to your real experiences.

Mustardseed, You seem to be doing a great job on the message your trying to convey. It just may be too deep or alien for many on these forums to appreciate. Spiritual progression by all is a very personal step.
Anyone here does seem to have a sincere interest in the right path.
Your personal experiences I haven't run across on the forums yet.Is there a place you can direct me to find what you have written so far? Did you see what I wrote in OBE discussions the other day?
If your interested, I'll try to find it for you. It may be something that you can relate to. It's something about how I've discovered  how to interpret things that happen in our lives. It's a difficult concept for most to grasp. You seem intense enough on things that it may mean something to you. I thought Beth was into this sort of thing when I got here, but her metaphors are based on something totally different. Let me know if you want to hear my ideas.

I miss the posts by Timeless. She had some very interesting things to share. I wonder if she left?

Adam and Eve were not children. They were adults, therefore responsible for their choices and actions.
The awareness of nakedness was the result of eating from the tree of knowledge. This is more about the pair's disobience to God at this point in the bible.This is the great sin and the cause of the fall of mankind.
On my judgment day I was presented with the same dilemma. Listen to God, and/or take in the knowledge offered to me. The dilemma was this. Would this be truly God making an offer, or is it Satan disguised as God in order to tempt me to partake of the proverbial tree of knowledge. At the time I wasn't aware of the Akashic Records. All the same, I still had to deal with (at this critical moment of decision) who the real source of vision and power was from. This going forward on my part could have easily led me beyond this earthly realm. The ability to return from this new realm (the light was there) was a big question for me. My choice was to decline this offer. I was blessed with another vision. This other vision I believe was a sign from God that I had made the right choice.
After this, I have a new view of things. It wasn't wrong to seek the Akashic Records, but at the time I wasn't prepared for receiving it. This lacking on my part may very well have meant my not being able to return. If this would happen to me again, I believe I would be able to remain after the experience. God didn't expect anything more from me than the knowledge I had already acquired.My Bible was not in reach at the time. I had to use what knowledge was already in me.

Adam and Eve were given anything they wanted. One restriction, and still,they went over the line with God.

I'm sure God know who He is. []

Beth,
Right and Left brain has to to with our own ability to perform thinking functions. Your description is more of that being your higher self or even a spirit guide. Your higher self is a spirit, therefore vulnerable to error.
The Holy Spirit does not error. The Holy Spirit does not cause division among others. I have been spending the last few years learning of the Higher Self and Spirit Guides. Your descriptions and thinking methods are self generated I suspect. I know it's just my opinion. But it certainly explains why so much of what you say is opposite of what are generally accepted opinions about Christian belief and the Bible. That doesn't mean your wrong in (your) thinking, it just means your source is You (or a guide), and your calling it Holy Spirit. This is hardly appropiate to be proclaiming messages FOR others in the name of Holy Spirit, what you call your spirit for yourself is your business. It seems to explain some of the confusion in what you say. If this was coming from the Holy Spirit, would this conversation would be taking place? Does Holy Spirit debate?

I second what RJA said. Even though you won't be a moderator, surely you can find the time to check back and contribute hopefully.

I happy for you getting started on your book. I know it's going to be a good one. It sounds like an important, yet fun project.

I believe a witch or witchful ways [] is normal intuitive tendencies manifested in one's life whether it be of a conscious or unconscious intention.

Unknown to me is the origin of the connection with witchcraft. It may have to do with ancester influences, or even of some kind of past connections with what was thought to be superstition or occulism is some way. Putting that aside, it's in each one of us to recognize and utilize (intuition). Re-defining terms may bring about greater understanding of the process.

There seems to be a truth behind superstitions. I've discovered this through my own dream studies.
The falsehoods associated with superstition is that is working systems being used in the wrong context. In other words, things that may work for one person, may not work for the next one. Therefore, the way it works may appear to be superstition. Not necessarily so. Superstition may be an out dated word for misunderstood methods.

Witchcraft may have been labeled because of the earlier days when magic or supernatural ways were less understood. The word witch is another word for a person with intuition. Magic may very well be another word for manifestation or materialization.

This is a very interesting subject to bring up Tisha, thanks.

Mustardseed,
Don't stop believing what you believe. Everything you said is how it's suppose to be. Your on the right track. Once you connect with God, a lot of it is about the ride he's taking you on. Your faith is all you need, you have that!
Beth obvious has that too. Her talk of spirit relationship tells me that. Relax about the details.
I usually don't say this, but very few people have a real strong faith. Why? Because they live on Earth. It's almost impossible to believe how big God is. It's almost impossible to believe there is celestial beings with the power and strength that they have. I always had the ability to comprehend what this Godly realm must be like. I can see why it's beyond most people's comprehension. That's why people live like they do. Those are the ones who that live in the flesh. They cannot see or comprehend anything beyond their own lives. Then there are those who dare to dream. These may or may not fit into with the crowd.

Because most people cannot take the reins to their own life, there are more spiritual types who can. This is where I see church leaders come into the picture.

Jesus said he didn't come here for the righteous, he came here for the unrighteous (sinners, for what that may be). He's given another way for people to "get it". People can connect with unrighteous. They cannot connect with righeousness because they have such little faith in themself, and those things around them.

The truth to me is this. When God wants you, you will see how little and how insignificant you really are in the grand scheme of things. This is why humility. When God called me to his presence, I had no control of my physical life at all. The angels can grab you and take you where he wants you to be. Even your mind is under the conditions of God for existence. The presence of God is as awesome as I had always  comprehended. God is all that matters. God's angels are as powerful as the bible depicts them to be. There is definitely something to the bible. I was trying to meditate on the bible one night when God came for a visit. God will not put any more on you than what you can handle. And believe me, the edge of this is as scary as it gets!  I understand now why God keeps such distance, his presence is too grand to take. He's is so powerful and strong that he can't be near you in this realm or in the present physical state your in. It's an incredible thing!

Last Saturday afternoon I had an unexpected trip to the Astral Island Local. When I lucid dream I usually cannot control where I go or what I do. This particular time I swam to shore. It was dark. I thought I had arrived on the island. I climbed a rock to come to shore. I looked at the rock backing up from it, seeing it as the observer . It was two large wet boulders. It must have been the wrong place.
Later I'm flying, my hair is wet. I sighted the astral local below. I recognized the vivid color of the pyramid. I landed. Now I'm watching myself walk up to the pyramid. I was in my mental body (vivid skin tone), had sandles and a short white sandstone colored skirt or wrap. I wasn't able to see above my waist. Approaching the pyramid taking a couple steps upward is all I can remember. I was standing by one of the corners.

Hi Jeff,
I downloaded your program, it's great! I already know I want to use it indefinitely.I want to be able to store the info on Cd. Is this possible? I had bought a Cd a few years ago (it stored the info), it ended up being incompatible with my computer or me. This program you have created seems superior than this other one I tried to use.

"In the universal language of mind, this mechanism device symbolizes willfull attention. Attention is the only sense of mind. Will is the faculty of mind by which we determine action and control of the Self. When willful attention is directed to cause movement in mind, there is the ability to access different levels of consciousness."

This is the meaning of "Elevator" from the book, " The Dreamer's Dictionary", by Barbara Condron.


This book, like so many other good dream books, can
explain why things happen to us (in waking life).
This demonstrates the thinning veil of our physical and non physical reality. Obes and such occur when one finds themself in a scene of waking life which also (aligned, the term JustLikeThePill uses) represents something in the subconscious realm.
The mountain ( higher elevation), and the base of the mountain (beginning journey), are at a higher elevation mentally. You are open and suseptible to some scenerios.You get what you ask for, whether you recognize it or not.
There are two paranormal experiences I have had that shows another example of this.Once it was a curtain between my bedroom and my grandparent's bedroom, the other was going up in an elevator one day. The curtain represents a veil with a mystery behind it (coming through), the elevator, like the moutain, higher elevation (something is at the top).

pod3,
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term allopathic medicine.

My confidence in traditional western medicine is failing. It's gotten to the point that I feel you had better know what's wrong with yourself before you seek treatment []. People of science are clueless or at least, not geared toward wholistic medicine (as it is sometimes called). There is a tendency for them to be so accepting of even the most obvious of psycosomatic symtoms. No questions asked, just treat it with a pill sorta attitude.Though there's nothing wrong with that if it's called for. I think people want to know things. In other words,most would want to overcome what placed themself in such a position in the first place. Anyway, that's my take on that. And, I don't even want to get going on how the business of medicine has taken over. $$$$$

Anyway, back to the subject:
My mom and sister both suffered from migraines. Each overcame the problem in their own way. They both learned to avoid the things that triggered the attack. Flashes of light triggered my mom's. My sister claimed hers were brought on by direct sunlight and allergies to certain foods. She use to have a list of foods that were suspected in causing migraine attacks.I know one person who has migraine attacks based on her hormone level. This one surprises me.
My last migraine-like episode was only about 2 weeks ago. It seems to be related to something I'm thinking about or internalizing at the moment. A fear or something on the loose(like a random thought). It's hard to pinpoint exactly.
The last episode was my shortest ever. I can't see during the episode. What I can see is a crystal-like form (has a shape) on one half of my visual field. Last time it happened, I tracked this little crystal mass that blocks my vision. I even tracked it from my left eye onto my right eye. Instead of trying to see around it, I stared it down. I don't know if that was the reason it disappeared quicker than usual or not.

I thought I would share this bit of information in case you are also familiar with this crystal thing in your line of vision during a migraine. I use to get little headaches with these episodes, but no more.

Beth,
Yes, you have made it clear to me. I better understand what your saying and doing now, thanks. []

I forgot to say thank-you for the book you recommend.It's on my list of books to get.And,the link with names is great. In another thread you have mentioned you may have your own book. I'll look forward to that as well.

And thank you too T_Kman, the Beginning is always a good starting point! []

Beth,

Maybe it's because of what seemed to me (that he,Paul) had to find out the long and hard way to discover the truth of the gospel. I never could quite follow the concepts or writings of Paul.
Could you explain a little farther about this quote:

quote:The difference between the literal and the allegorical is addressed by the Apostle Paul--the first (the literal) is "milk for babes" and the second (the allegorical) "is meat for the mature."

I can identify more with where the disiples of Jesus were coming from, in the new testament writing.

Now as far as allagory goes (And maybe this should be in the allagory section? Dunno). I was always under the impression early on, that allagory is "milk for babes".
This is shown through what I was taught as early as elementary school that Eastern and Western philosophies were taught in a manner similiar to what is known as "allagory", or a similiar fashion so named. Example of this was Chinese proverbs, as well as children's fables. Since then, I've come to believe also that children's fables are actually subconscious ideas brought to story form in the same way dreams are brought to consciousness. In this, being, "milk for babes", or put another way, "only what one can understand, comprehend, accept at a particular level a person is in, at a given time of his/her life.
An example of this various level would go like this. If a person had some kind of elemental or fundamental block in his or her life, a dream will show no more explicit information than that particular person can handle, let's say psychologically.

So...if this is so. Where is the meat for the mature?

I hope I'm not sounding confusing.  

Pod3,
If you don't mind a little quackery from my angle, I will offer a few thoughts.
I'm fortunate in that I have a working healing system that works for me. I've had a healing angel who has come to me at times of illness. This guide does body traveling for investigating things I may be at a loss for correcting, so... I get help. He is an Eastern Indian in appearance. He's been around me for many years. I have also had a couple of dreams when I saw him do some kind of head surgery on a couple of my children. I call what he does psyche surgery because the nature of the way this spirit operates. I have also seen some other kind of surgery under different circumstances, this particular time it was being done in the abdomen area. Maybe you can obtain a high level healer. The healing can be in an unconscious (subconscious) manner I suspect. With time you may be able to pick-up on the internal mechanism of these healing methods. So maybe this healer is also a teacher in this respect. Ask God for a healing spirit/teacher. I have had this spirit come after request for help from God about healing.

A little insight into the problems you have mentioned.
Psoriasis and hair loss are connected with the skin. Nervous conditions, fluctuations in body changes, like inflammation? These are manifestations. You are being marked with skin and/or scalp conditions. Unresolved issues with nerves? Is your digestive system in good working flow? Good purging means good cleansing of your system. Are your energy centers balanced? Diabetes can also be connected to digestion. Could correction of all of the above also control your diabetes? I look at illness in two ways. There are acute illess and there are chronic illness. Acute illness can get cured. Chronic illness can be controlled. I also have to ask if you have a good health care giver? Do you have a good rapport with this practitioner? If not, find someone who your in synch with. Sometimes this isn't necessarily a factor in your health outcome however. This is just another factor to consider.

I recently have noticed this mother and son seem to alternate migraine headaches between each other. I've been watching to see if there is anything to learn on this oddity. So far I haven't been able to pick up any information, and neither are showing any progress about resolving their issues (if that is what it is).
On a side note. I have noticed personally a connection between my aura sight appearance and migraines. I occasionally get the visual effects of migraines minus the headache part. The visual blindness seems to be hemisperical and very short lived. This only happens to me a couple times a year so I can't get a handle on it really.

If I happen to come across any information on any of this I will gladly throw it out to you.

Hopefully someone who knows more than I do will respond to you.

Hi Mustardseed,
It's kinda late for me but I wanted to respond to your last post. I didn't really look very close the first time I read it.
Reading it again I see things in it I didn't see before. Your emotional outburst (expression[]) took my attention away from your real message. I'm glad your here. I would hate to see you leave. Communicating through writing is quite different than being in person, this is true. I do get a strong sense of your character, strength, and sincerity. It does come across in spite of ([]) the emotion. I've been lucky in that I lack a lot of emotion in my life. I can see what it can do to people. There's nothing wrong with emotion, it's just that it can be a deceiver in it's own right. I even believe that emotion wrongly directed is the cause of so much hurt in one's life, as well as, wrong thinking. When we give out to others we in a way are putting an investment in that person. Your setting yourself up for disappointment (as you have already mentioned has happened). Emotions always seem to play out to a definite end. I have discovered a good substitute is feelings.Feelings are softer and require no investment into another person. Feelings represent the same as emotions except in a more controlled, predictible, and disiplined way. You probably know exactly what I'm talking about. You are obviously a soulful person, and probably more so, than me. For a long time I couldn't put my finger on what the difference between feeling and emotion were. I read something just yesterday that made it clearer to me. If your interested, I'll try to find that material again.
You have so much to share. Don't give up.

Anyway, that's all I wanted to say.

Here's what I think.

Some people reach an ultimate level of enlightenment. Even at the highest point we remain in the realm of darkness with the influence of dark forces. There is light and hope beyond the realm we reside. This hope is in the God who you say doesn't want dissension (says who?). The true God is not in this realm.I believe he wants those who can challenge him. We do reap benefits from gaining knowledge and wisdom from his influence. Whether you decide that aspect is for you is your choice. God's ways are not the same as most people see it. Actually God's way of thinking is the way to go, very few people GET this kind of wisdom and knowledge.

Emotions are the downfall of mankind if you ask me. Feelings however is another matter. Feelings are more lasting and stronger than emotions.I think a lot of people get emotions confused in regard to who the person God is.

This is what drives me forward.

I'm not sure what you mean by Dark Lord. I suspect maybe it may be of two things. It could be the true reality of Satan's power, or it could be an aspect of God's personality which so many people cannot see or understand. Yes, in the high realms of the spiritual there is love, truth, and understanding, peace, etc. etc. However God is not just a person (yes, person) with a lala land attitude in a dreamworld of everything is a fairy land. He is a God of justice, reason, good sense, intelligent, and humorous, and much more.

Beth,
To answer the question whether,  "Do You Really Believe...(fill in the blank)? I would have to say YES if it applied to what is right for me. That's the point I was trying to make earlier in this thread. It's a system, a belief system, it doesn't have to make sense to anyone except the believer. There is a quiet and silent messaging with the "system". This messaging is so deep, so real, so fulfilling, it can't be ignored by the true believer. It works.
For instance, I too have heard that Ham was dark. The particulars don't matter by itself. It more of a building of info in a special location in the body, mind, or soul. These things matter to me as a believer. I don't hold it against you for not understanding what you do not experience. In fact, when you mentioned Ham meant warm/hot, it spoke to me. The fact (in that special place) that Ham is dark is not replaced by a new fact however. By testing,signs and manifestations seen daily by me, I will soon learn what is true. In fact, Ham being dark and hot is a clue on something I've been trying to figure out for sometime. Many pieces fit together when your in synchrony. I believe everyone is in synchrony, it's just most aren't aware of the phenomenon. It's a delightful existence, and I believe it has to do with a level of enlightenment that may be something coming to the future in larger numbers. I'm personally not much into History, but many people are. In fact,for me anything earlier than 5 years before I was born I have a lot of doubts of really happening (in another place separate from the "special place" mentioned earlier). Therefore I think that's why historical information is difficult for me. I think there is a bigger purpose for why some people are strong in some areas and weak in others. I believe this reason will become more known in the future, just as synchrony will become more of a reality to larger numbers.
In the meantime, I'm fascinated with your interpretations of the Hebrew language. I wouldn't mind getting a list you mentioned having. I don't know if that's a possibility for you. That is, if it is too much material to deal with in this forum.

Hi Beth,
I take it your not into duality concepts. That's okay if your belief is different. It's what ever works for you.
"Something else" is an open door, or an open window. Pathways for going and coming in. Points, lines, shapes, graphs, diagrams are navigational tools through the doors or windows. I suspect most people have this inner ability consciously or unconsciously to travel various routes. We each design the shapes and other learning tools for the journey. You have your system which must work fine for you. You express confidence, this is a good thing. You seem to lack (in your writing) a connection or understanding of other's pathways. That's okay too, it just places doubts in how your system would work for me. We all are headed for the same destination aren't we? I know that many people who hold to the "oneness" concept have a tendency to place dualist in a box out there in the astral somewhere. You haven't exactly said what you believe as yet. I'm just guessing because you haven't said anything specific yet. So far, you can bait a hook. You see what you can catch. You don't share yourself. So far you use words to sheild yourself or search for something. Open up. That's why I liked your metaphore in "End of Days". You opened yourself up. A few barriors present perhaps, but don't we all have some?

I hope I clarified myself? I would say take a stab, but then, you might. []

Good one, Fallnangel [] lol

Not the "being" of the first humans is "missing" the point.
The "point" is something else. The point is part of other points. The points form something.

Not being real removes and displaces points. Points that can take form, and position. In a geometric way you might say. A way for things to take shape or solve a dilemma.

The spirit of God would not be present in an illusion.

The things present and the things that happen is for a reason.  

Material is awareness and awareness is material.

The presence of God. A feel that is real.

If this was/is a dream, where are you in this?

Interpreting a dream helps. Whose the dreamer?
Multifaceted that way. And what about those points?
Where will this lead?

Where did this come from?

Beth, you seem to be coming out sounding like the serpent.
Is this your intention? Thoughts are important you know.
The story isn't real to you, so you shouldn't be offended I hope.

Hi Beth,
This is an interesting dream. Technology(metal/plastic,equipment in this dream) tends to be "man-made"or "Beth made". Creation for problem solving or wishful thinking/dreaming. Personally I think anything is possible. True contact with the deceased is not likely at this point. Although,down the line, who knows? You, being the dreamer, makes it possible.Your the spirit.
Until then, I suspect it's instinctual impressions as the source of the unknown voices (What is the instinctual nature of the human compared to animals?). Matching the voice and image of "employees", your synchronizing. This is great! The thing is, in your waking life you can most likely match voices to the face (or not). Matching let's say a writer to the face may be more challenging. Your unraffling things, this is a good dream for this reason. The mechanical affects leads me to think your on the right track. I hope you have some more dreams like this to share.
There is a connection with magnet and the hope and/or possibility of spirit contact(real or self created?). Magnet can also suggest polarity. Does this seem electric or emotional? Your emotion is perhaps coming through the tape (proof?), your ability to pull the instinctual of the human condition to you, thus, imprinted.
Breech of security is a paranoia or fear (a feeling,in a controlled setting). This is something science doesn't recognize as rational (or real). But, actually this is where your probably on the right track. This seems to be for your exploration, not necessarily someone outside yourself coming to you.
The archives make me think you have tapped into the akashic records. No matches at first makes me think of the true nature of the way humans discover things, "Oh my, look at what has fallen into my lap!." When actually, you have already "created" it.This is the "stir". Your playing out a drama of discovery.  The production of "the trend" of voices is a mechanical action or response (your production). Human and spirit? Good stuff Beth.