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#576
Quote from: LightBeam on June 16, 2021, 21:32:58
Both success and failure as we perceive them serve as lessons and are both beneficial.
So true, so true.

Recently I read this reply That Kevin Hart, the Actor, had made when questioned about the "Cancel Culture". He didn't need to use the profanity. But the words fit the message he was delivering.
""When did we get to a point where life was supposed to be perfect? Where people were supposed to operate perfectly all the time? I don't understand."

"I don't expect perfection from my kids. I don't expect it from my wife, friends, employees," he continued. "Because, last I checked, the only way you grow up is from f---ing up. I don't know a kid who hasn't f---ed up or done some dumb s---."


I have always lived by the adage "people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". I like this one too "to error is Human, to forgive is divine"!  :-) It is through our "failures" that we learn to prevail!
#577
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on June 16, 2021, 11:35:31
I'm thinking it ended because I didn't follow the "script" and wanted to go do my own thing, oh well, maybe next time I'll be lucid enough to remember to go where the experience takes me.
It could be that it ended so you could bring a conscious recall of your experience back with you. Had you had entered the School, you might have forgotten everything that occurred. I have had to abort adventures earlier then I wished as well due to that fact. This is part of the balancing act we always speak of here.
#578
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on June 14, 2021, 13:12:06
Advertisers are Testing Ways to Put Commercials in Your Dreams :-o
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2021/06/advertisers-are-testing-ways-to-put-commercials-in-your-dreams/
That doesn't surprise me at all. The Advertising machine is always looking at new ways to manipulate people. Do you remember back in the 80's when "Subliminal Advertising" was running wild? Skulls and crossbones, naked ladies in the ice cubes of alcohol related ads. It took awhile, but that got banned. So did alcohol ads in magazines. They tried the same thing on TV as well. They put blips in commercials that were so fast, one frame or so, that your conscious mind didn't register them. But your "subconscious" did.
#579
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on June 15, 2021, 13:45:39
210615 (phasing practice)
Didn't much care for this one, it felt very physical and like something wrong was happening. There was no choice to abort, more like a fight or flight response. But still can't help wonder what it might have led to..
It never ceases to amaze me how we can be so "mentally prepared" for the experience, yet, when it actually happens, it still takes us by surprise. I have kicked myself many times for finding myself in a fear test and then I fail it. I know better, yet it still gets me from time to time. I think it's because it comes on spontaneously and ever so quickly too. You find yourself just becoming consciously aware and things are spiraling out of control all around you. The "flight response" seems to be automatic in some scenarios. I see it as our "default mode".
#580
Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Sorrow Analyzed
June 13, 2021, 19:22:42
  Lightbeam, I feel your pain and emotions in your words!  :-(
Quote from: LightBeam on June 13, 2021, 15:11:34
Even I know where they go and what happens, I still grieve, I still feel nostalgia and pain. Because knowing something you can't see at the moment gets overridden by the immediate reality orientation where you perceive loss with all of your senses and you see it as you only reality at that time. But these thoughts sent me comfort and I instantly felt that she was walking right beside me with her arm around my shoulder. I even perceived the color of her shirt, bright red. I started talking to her. I told her that she is free now and can go wherever she wants and experience whatever her heart desire, just think with love and fearlessness. Then I felt like there were so many people walking beside me and behind me. I even turned around to look behind me, the feeling of the group walking with me was so strong. I smiled. I said, yeah, you can see me, I cant see you, but I can feel you. I know you are happy and have found the Light. My pain has lessened.
That's what make us "Human" and separates us from many of the other "Races" in the Multi-verse. We talk about being "Observers". Being an "Observer" is much easier to do when you can put yourself outside of the direct influence of the circumstance at hand. When it directly impacts you, you can go into "Observer" mode after the fact, but at the time, you are consumed in emotion just like all the other Humans are around you.

There are professions, like being in the Military, a Doctor, a Lawyer, etc. where you are supposed to "shelve" your emotions, so that your "training" can do what is necessary at the immediate moment in time to do. There are also organizations, normally cult based like Scientology and others, that teach/train you to do the same thing as well.


#581
 My answer to this would be "everything in moderation". Sex, can also be seen as "lust" One of the deadly sins, according to the 7 deadly sins. But just like with lust, all the other "deadly sins" can be considered okay, as long as they don't become a "obsession". The seven deadly sins are "pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth". It made a great movie too! The movie call "Se7en".  8-) Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman did a fantastic job.

I read quite a bit in people's journal entries how they are out of body, roaming around and then a hot lady/man shows up and their entire focus goes to that. With some, it seems to always be the last part of their NP experience. At least the last part they recall that is. If every time you go out of body a hot woman is there, you aren't really losing a physical focus at all. You are in the NPR, yet you are still using a physical mindset there. Although sex in the NPR is a incredible experience, there is quite a bit more that you could be experiencing there.

Sex in the NPR is more about two merging energies, than it is a physical experience. That merge is a incredible feeling. It's like experiencing a number of "layers" at the same time. It's very spiritual in nature. But, it can also be a distraction. Case in point: Recently via a Phase soak session of mine, I focused on meeting friends from the Pulse here. At least that was my intent. Just as the beach scene was opening up and I was lifting my peripheral vision to take on more of it, a woman in a black G-sting bathing suit walked by me and laid down on the beach to the left of me, by some large rocks. I could have immediately kept my focus on her and my adventure would likely have lead elsewhere, but instead, I kept my focus on what I was doing and stayed the course.

This also happens in LDs. I will be observing a scenario and then it takes more of a lustful focus. I then realize this and stay the course with what I am doing. I could easily have become a willing participant in the sexual adventure, but instead, I decided to look past it and see what else has taken me to this area. It's too easy to be swayed by lust and lust can completely take over the experience.

When I first started to consciously shift, I found, (actually I was told), that I need to learn to control my physical "vices". That being ego, lust, etc., basically any distraction that can "hi-jack" a lesson at hand. Sometimes, that was the lesson. A test of sorts. Once I learned to reign in and tame my physical urges and vices, I began to see so much more. I began to completely separate myself from my physical focus and move in experiencing higher "layers" of consciousness. I was taught the same thing with "emotion". That that was something I needed to tame as well while in the NPR. Once again this was shown time and time again throughout my NP teachings.
#582
 Mathew's Coast to Coast AM interview was incredible.  Another one of those constant head noddings. If you get the chance to find a replay of it, definitely listen to it. I know many here on the Astral Pulse will appreciate and "understand" his words. His genuine sincerity is very uplifting. You really "feel" his words.

He talked about Heaven and Hell, which there is none. He didn't use the word Retrieval, but talked about "Aides" that help others with their "transition". He talked about Ghosts. He talked about "Downloads". The Bardo state. The Akashic Records Our purpose here. The conversation was excellent. A lot of his conversation was based on his new book that was just recently released, "The Luminous Landscape of the Afterlife".

  I particularly liked the spot where he talked about the conversations that occur that are not of our thinking or design. I have this happen often in my Phase soaks and have attempted to describe this to people here. You are in in the "zone" and you mentally ask a question. Then all of a sudden the answer flows in, but it is not of your design. ...or you will ln the zone enjoying the darkness there and all of sudden a full blown scenario appears. You didn't create this with intent. All you were doing was basking in the darkness. This new scenario just appeared, but there is always a reason for it, so you see it through to find out why it appeared.

To end the show they had about a half hour of callers. Mathew answered their questions to the best he could. The night ended though with the final call. In that one, the caller accused him of being the Devil Incarnate and said that his teachings were blasphemy. That he was leading the people astray. Taking them away from God. Mathew even answered this man with "Love" in his voice.

(I had to edit the name above. For some reason I kept using the name "Jordan", instead of Mathew. But because Mathew was "channeling" Jordan and that was the "source" of the information, I guess the name fit too.) Freudian slip, lol!  :-)
#583
 Nameless and Lightbeam, I thought of you ladies when I heard this short interview today. The Author, Mathew McKay is going to be a Guest on tonight's Coast to Coast AM show. I like to visit the Guest's website before I listen to a 2 hour interview with them and was very impressed by his "sincerity" while listening to this 18:00 minute youtube video from his website. You have to listen to the end though, that's where he confirms what you were saying. I'm not going to give any spoilers. If you want to know, you will have to listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFziTwGHn4g&t=1086s

Here is a link to his website. I am looking forward to hearing his 2 hour Coast to Cast AM talk tonight. Coast to Coast AM is a 4 hour show. Mathew's interview will be in the final two hours of the show.
http://www.seekingjordan.com/
#584
Quote from: Nameless on June 05, 2021, 20:11:34
There is something about THIS earth, our universe, our reality that it is vitally important that we as a species need to wake up to. We have lost our past, our beginnings and we have to ask why. Were we (as a species) just too dumb to hang onto it? Were we duped into giving it up? Did we lose some ancient battle?
It's not the first time we lost everything. There were a number of civilizations before ours. We are just beginning to find evidence of that today. Take Gobekli Tepe. It defies what we knew of Human history.
I think the problem is "Ego" always got in the way. We see evidence of that all over today. We are so sure and proud of the fact that we are so much better than those that came before us. Yet, sometimes mankind doesn't have a clue!  :roll: I believe a few of those civilizations just up and left. There must have been a good reason to do that in their period of evolution. Possibly it was to move onto their next "school"!

QuoteWe know what to do, this is what all the retrievals, the rescues, the helping others in the NP has been all about = LOVE. What/Who does not act in LOVE must be removed. Therefore WE must act in love in all we do whether in our physical lives or our offline NP lives.
That's a good start! But there is still a lot more work than just that to do! We need to learn to utilize and also aid in stabilizing the collective consciousness at the moment. It seems that the natural "balance" of things is off by quite a bit right now. There is always a ebb and flow to the natural balance of things. But we have had enough hit us and things continuing to hit us, that the natural order of things seems out of whack right now. I think we are getting to a make or break moment in Human evolution.
#585
 Like EV so eloquently said "these are teachable moments, but can only be taught at a personal level". We here on the Astral Pulse will help a person get there. There are plenty of techniques here on the Pulse that people could use as "blueprints" to tweak to a more personal nature. But there are many things a person has to experience and find out for themselves.

We could talk about a lot of this stuff until we were blue in the face. Yet, it only really makes sense to a person once they are currently experiencing. Examples of this: Go back to a Astral related source book, video, etc, that you read or listened to in the beginning of your NPR journeys. Now, the words seem to make more sense.

...and I second EV, "Congratulations" are in order here!   :-) 8-)
#586
Quote from: Nameless on June 04, 2021, 23:57:11
Blinkers? I think what you are referring to is what I generally think of as just other people (perhaps other beings) in differing states of consciousness. When they aren't very aware I think of them as general background. I can easily imagine I've filled in the background for others more than once.
Yes, that is what a Blinker is. To me they seem like they are "beaming in" and many times "beaming out" just as quick, hence my use of the word "phasing" there. They could be in different states of consciousness and that's why they are having a harder time either "holding on", "tuning into" or "adjusting" to  the frequency that is necessary to access said area.

Don't get me wrong though. A Blinker, as I call them, is not the brief imagery you get upon the initial state of Hypnagogia. These Blinkers are being seen and some times just "sensed" while I am experiencing a full blown NPR scenario.  That's why I compared the imagery to a "Ghost" encounter. Ghosts too are viewed from various states of transparency.
#587
 Going back to Xanth's quote here "Just sayin, but things might have become a bit... overgrown, since last someone set foot there.  Wink". I have found this to be. But what I have also found is there seems to be many layers of the same place. Kind of like intervals in time. Last night a good friend and I were talking about this. We both agreed that there are many versions of the same place. Years ago, I created my own "Happy Place". My personal happy place was a very tranquil tropical Island oasis. I would go there often. Then I found that when I accessed my Happy Place, it would tend to lead into some kind of exploratory experience. I would get there and see that something was different and whatever it was that had changed, seemed to have a purpose. Many times that purpose led into some kind of valuable lesson.

Cue the Astral Pulse. I get to this Forum and lo and behold, my Happy Place seemed to be almost exactly like the image that Adrian posted here years ago. Mine at the time didn't have a Pyramid and that was about the only thing I found different. The Pyramid was a nice touch though. I'm surprised with my love of that era of time, that the Pyramid wouldn't have already been at my Happy Place, lol.

Then through the years here, periodically the idea to resurrect "hey let's focus on the Astral Pulse" idea pops up again and here we are.  I experience this Island in a infinite number of ways now. Case in point. In today's Phase soak session, I began with my Healing modality and focus preparation and then suddenly a vision of a tunnel appears before me. This tunnel was formed by trees. The trees were arching inwards and were in a row, so that seemed to create the path forward. I could feel I was moving forward, deeper into the tunnel. Ahead I could see light. When I got to the light, I saw a absolutely awesome waterfall dead ahead. I kept moving through the trees towards it. This was paradise in itself. The colors were so vibrant. All of a sudden, I was moving up the many layers of the waterfall. It was high up a hill. I wasn't moving in a physical ruleset kind of way, like I was when I moved down the tunnel. I seemed to just be rising to take on more of the waterfall visual This was the first time in this session that I felt I was taking on more of point of consciousness awareness. This means no limitation. I explored this area for the session. It led down to a beautiful white sand beach too. I didn't see or sense any Blinkers there either. It seemed to be a solo journey today.

I said above that there seemed to be many layers. I'm sure that like Xanth said above, that every person that focused on it and accessed it left a part of themselves there as well. That part being some kind of energy signature, like a piece of their own constructed reality.  
#588
Quote from: Kree on June 04, 2021, 17:34:41
I've had TGE for some years now, but have only really tried the F10 track.  Gave up on it after hearing "you are now in focus 10" a hundred times.

The weird thing about TGE is, iirc, many of the tracks don't even go into theta.  So would seem less effective than just a theta BB track.  And I also hear that most of the tracks don't even provide a technique.  So I'm wondering what value is there to these tracks, for someone who just wants to phase?

I've also got a laxman light and sound machine, but can't really tell if it's any better than just a BB track.
My take on all of these is they have utilize the same goal, per se and that they all create a altering of your brain waves. But even more than that, they get you used to the "feeling" of having your brain waves altered from a conscious state of awareness. So, you could say they work as part of a process of "brain entrainment", which I have personally found to be a very important part in the Art of Phasing.

I have used a few of Robert's Walkthroughs. I listen to Binaural Beats or Isochronic Tones almost daily, especially before I go to sleep at night. I find the change in brainwaves that they give to be very relaxing. I also own the Laxman. I was the person that created the Laxman thread here on the Astral Pulse Forums. If it wasn't for my Trigeminal Neuralgia, I would still use it too. When i was just new to this practice, one session with the Laxman would be all it takes to bring me into a very deep state of brainwave alteration. Once the program ended, the session for the day normally did too. At that point in time, I didn't have the knowledge or ability to prolong the NP stat. Now, I don't need those "training wheels" or tools. But I found those training wheels/tools very helpful in learning to not only acquire, but continuing to acquire, a good non local state of consciousness.

A few other members here that have actually used Robert's full program or have been to the Monroe Institute should be able to help you on the TGE part of your question. 
#589
 I left one important point out. It was a main part of the experience. There were what I call "Blinkers" there. A Blinker to me is a person/energy that is attempting to access the area, but can't seem to hold onto the frequency there. I see these Blinkers often in my Phase soak sessions. Sometimes they just appear as a transparent figure, like an outline. Kind of like the shimmering glow that the Predator has in those Predator movies. The Predator, from the movies, has the ability to cloak. But in this case it seems like the person/entity is caught in Star Trek like, pardon the pun, "phase". I have wanted to talk more about this in my Doorway thread, but I was waiting for someone to share in my process first. It really makes me question the whole "Ghost" thing. Many times, this energy source can appear just like that. It also makes me wonder what we look like to others when we first "phase" in!   :| : More questions, always more questions and every answer leads to more questions, lol!  :-D
#590
 I did a Phase soak session on Saturday. My intent was to bring some marinated Jumbo Shrimp and Pineapple to have some Kabobs. I first became aware of the beautiful aqua water. Then my focus went to searching for a place to put my food. I came across a stone slab table and beside it was a stone barbecue pit as well.

A woman walked by me. She was was wearing a G-string bikini. She was very attractive. She walked right by me to a spot on the beach where she laid down a towel and then laid down on it. She didn't even notice me. She seemed like she was sleep walking. I figured she was likely one of those "Beach Bunnies", that could always be found on the beach sunbathing. It must become so natural to her that she continues it in her dreams as well. To the best of my knowledge, once she laid down on the towel, she didn't move again. I did kind of question in my mind why she was wearing anything at all. Dental floss for a covering doesn't really seem like it covers anything, lol!

Now my peripheral vision was opening up and I could take on more of the scene. The sand was bleach white. The water a beautiful crystal clear aqua blue and wait, another person. It's another female. This lady looks like she is in her upper 30's, early 40's. She is dressed appropriate for social function on a beach. Her hair is gold curls, kind of like "Goldilocks". She says her name is Debra and she also says something about, what I think was, Atlanta, Atlantis, At something. I didn't think she spoke it though. That thought just made it's way into my head. She didn't really speak anything, mentally or verbally, that I remembered at least, after that.

Then my attention turned to the Pyramid. It was awesome. It was shimmering white on the outside with a Crystal ring or border that surrounded a golden peak. But to me, the top peak looked more like Copper, then it did Gold. I soon found myself in the Pyramid. At first it looked like one big room, like Lightbeam said. But as i began to move forward into it, it seemed to be infinite. There were corridors everywhere. It felt like a "Labyrinth" of some kind.

I mentioned that I thought the top was Copper and I guess that would make sense. Doing a radar scan a group of Researchers found a small room. It was too small to access by person, so they sent a small camera into it. They saw what appeared to be a couple of bars connected to a wall there. These bars were corroded, like what happens to the battery nodes of a vehicle. It could be that these bars were actually nodes as well. That would be further proof that the Pyramids are machines of some kind. Power stations. For what, no one knows. Those Researchers won't find out either because after they found this, they weren't allowed back in again. It goes against the "Egyptian" narrative and that's a no no.

The energy of the Island is invigorating. Everything takes on more of glow to it. The colors more vibrant. I wish I would have been able to focus more on the Barbecue/Social event. But you know, Pyramids and my love of them. What can I say, lol!  :-)

All and all it was fun. I plan to go back there more often. I did save the picture on my desktop. It's great to see when I first turn my computer on. Then there is the "Subliminal" part to it. Brain entrainment. I wonder, how many of you did the same? I hear often from people that they are having problems accessing areas like this. I will then post my method and attempt to help them through the ways I have learned throughout my life. Yet, then I find out that they didn't go that "extra mile". Two days of trying something is not giving it a fair shake. This Forum is loaded with great techniques and methods . Many of them are "Stickied" and very easy to find. If one doesn't work for you after a fair trial period, use another. What you are looking for is a way to turn your physical focus off, like you do when you go to sleep, but this time, you want to stay fully aware. It doesn't have to take hours. You can learn to do that in mere minutes. Practice, patience and perseverance really do pay off. It's too easy to give up.

Like EV recently said in a post he made here, "this is a process" and as it is a process, there are steps that you can take that help you more and more each time. It's a progression of sorts. The more you put into it, the more you will get in return.
#591
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 26, 2021, 09:52:12
Then it hit me, is this what phasing is, going into a lucid dream from a wake state ? Is that "all" there is to it ?
That makes you question what a Lucid Dream really is. When I had my severe bout with Trigeminal Neuralgia, it only really hurt when I closed my eyes. This taught me how to either learn how to lose my physical focus, using my physical eyes, as soon as possible or suffer the consequences, which in this case was stabbing electric like pain and jolts from my left temple down to my jaw. But, it also led to what they call Tibetan Dream Yoga, which is staying aware during the natural cycles of sleep, all the way into the NPRs. It gave me a whole new scope on what I have been calling Dreams all my life. Because of that, I have omitted the word Dream from my nightly affirmations. I changed it with the word "sleep", as in "I am consciously aware I am asleep, knowing I am sleeping".

Quote? lol I think I may have overcomplicate things (going about it kinda backwards) :-D
We tend to do that in this practice. One step forward, two steps back! Until one day it hits us. That's why Tom Campbell says "it is us that needs to get out of the way and allow the natural shift to occur". Every time we use a technique it teaches us a bit more each time on ways to do just that.
#592
Quote from: Xanth on May 25, 2021, 22:22:59
Just sayin, but things might have become a bit... overgrown, since last someone set foot there.  ;)

Frank might have peed in the pool too at some point.  :D
I have found that to be true. The initial photo/picture looked so simple. It was much more "intimate". From what I have seen, nowadays there are Bars on the beach. Towns all around. Mountains and rivers flowing. There is even a section of the Island that seems to be focused on "Retrievals". To tell you the truth, I like the photo representation of it better. It looks more inviting for a private party or encounter.
#593
Quote from: AForceGhost on May 25, 2021, 19:50:31
@Lumaza

I'm definitely thinking more along the lines of Frank Kepple's phasing model (though the visual route doesn't seem to be natural to me), but I am open to any physical/classic signs as well. I don't get much past just a purple swatch of color with occasional shadowy movements. Lately, I've been trying to bring a kinesthetic sense to that phasing model to see if it makes more sense to me. So far, I've found grounding things in a felt sense let's me anchor my attention more and become more fixated on it than just visual input.
Did you read the link I posted above to the "Phantom Wiggle" technique. It is based solely on "Kinesthetics". You don't have to visualize anything. All you have to do is feel the motion of the movements. It's based on "Tactile" focused approach to Phasing. It can lead to actual "OBEs", as in an actual "exit" from the body. You are aware of your body, but it's not your "physical body", it's all about your "Etheric" one. Every single on of those motions/directions you experience a day. How many times do you turn right or left in a day? How many times do you stand up or sit down? or How many times do you move forward, like, walking, driving, etc.? All those things are ingrained in your mind. I read how people have a problem focusing on that, but they don't realize that they naturally utilize the 6 directions many times a day.

QuoteI tend to do this as my routine:
1. Close my eyes and start to relax. Eventually I run though an old Buddhist meditative technique known as the Jhanas. Long story short, but I emerge from these in a very relaxed, mentally still, light F10 state I'd say. (very much in line with your #1)

2. I further let go and keep my mind on the feeling of relaxation. I'm quite good at staying mentally aware while I just let go. At some point, it feels like my body becomes even more heavy, relaxed, disaccoiated, etc. Almost like I was floating or expanded. Not in the usual astral sense where I've lost all connection to my body, but in the sense of expanded awareness. Every now and then I'll become very aware of needing to swallow, or my attention will be pulled back to my breath which feels like it's stopped, which causes me to have this overwhelming need to take a breath. I do so gently and then move on and let it go so it doesn't pull me away too much. (I'd say this is very in line to your #2, but I just feel so much that it's harder for me to not think of my body than you. You seem to ultimately end up "deeper" than I do by the time you finish #2)

3. Once I feel light and expanded, I try to either drive my consciousness inwards by sensing the hypnogogic shapes/patterns/lights/visuals I'm expecting to see around an F12 state (which doesn't really work), or I try to focus on a feeling of expansion, which I find I can't really do. Sometimes I can keep with a mental sense of movement, but it feels mental and I'm distinctly aware of my body on the bed while I'm with the movement. I'll cycle different things for a bit, and when I hit the point that I feel like ending, I'll go back to relaxing, recharge, and try again.

All 3 steps will last anywhere from 1 hour to 1.5 hours. Can you catch anything that I might be missing? Or just need more practice? I will say, I'm not expecting any particular route to unfold, I'm open to it developing as it does. I'm trying to engage and work with whatever I get, it just seems to be limited and never develops beyond a certain point.
I had the same path you did. The thing is, someone or something stepped in to aid me. I would sit down to do a session and 5 minutes in I am having problems with swallowing. Then came the itching. Then the eyelids that either flickered or felt like they were opening. It was very annoying. Now I realize that that was my physical body's attempt to keep me focused on my physical body. Believe it or not, your physical body will fight with all of it's ammunition to keep you physical focused. Why? Because we are physical Beings. At least that is what we have been taught all of our lives. So now, we have to find a way to change that program.

My change came when I began having all kinds of visuals, while doing Robert Bruce's NEW. I watched as a bunch of little Pac Man like characters gobbled my body up, starting with my toes. The next time I attempted to Phase, I was shown my body outlined in white chalk, like some kind of murder scene. Further Phase sessions then pressed the importance of mentally disassociating myself from my body. I have used all kinds of creative ways to do that, like unzipping my "Human suit". Once that body was gone, the flood gates opened and I could finally hold a strong non physical focus.  

Now, I can disassociate from my physical body quite easily. When I do my Phase session, I am lying in my bathtub with a rubber bath pillow behind my neck and my legs halfway up the wall. I am about 6'2 and my bathtub is 58" from wall to wall. My head, up to my face, is underwater, so my legs are crammed in the tub. Yet, 2 minutes in, I can't feel anything anymore. I am in Phase mode.

When reading your approach to this, I get the feeling that you are being a bit too "mechanical" in your process. You do a technique you have read up on and then have a "expectation" that "this" is going happen. I used to fight it as well. That's why it took me an hour to an hour and half to see anything worthy of my effort. It was one step forward two steps back the entire way. I was fighting myself. I would have something occur and either get too excited or for some reason wonder what was happening with my physical body. Was there vibrations? What was that sound? I couldn't turn it off. Then I found that I needed another way. I needed to turn the "monkey mind" off or at least divert it something else. That's when I began working on keeping it busy until the shift naturally occurred. I soon found out, it didn't take an hour or hour and half to do. Sometimes it was mere minutes before I would be experiencing something that was not of my design.

You are doing fine. Just ease up the pressure you are putting on yourself. Learn to "allow" what's going to happen to happen. Go with the flow and lose the expectations. This advise is coming from someone that had to learn the hard way as well. I have been at this for almost 10 years now.

AForce, I just found this post that I made from in the past on this Forum where I describe more about the "disassociation" experience that I went through. My name at the time on this Forum was "Lionheart". I am posting this link because the "Cycling" process in it is very useful to those that want more of Kinesthetic" approach. There is also some great discussions found there as well that you may find useful!  :-)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/lding_for_idiots_sensations_initiated_lucid_dream_sild-t36757.0.html;msg303105#msg303105
#594
 Just a tip for added success. Set this image as the background for your computer. Then, every time you go to your computer, the first thing you will see is Astral Island. It will really help it sink in and when you need to visualize Astral Island, you will find it's easier to do now. You could call this "Brain Entrainment" in a way. The more you see the image, the easier it is "re-image" it.

Close your eyes and put your entire intent on going to this place. Once the visual is there, allow what is going to happen to happen. Go with the flow of things. Even if that flow seems to move away from the Astral Island intent that you have created. Something needs to be shown to you, so go see it. You can always return back to the Astral Island scenario. It will be much easier to attain as well because you will already be deep in a thought = action mode.

I look forward to seeing you all on Saturday!  :-) We have a Guest staying over, so it might be tough to get a Phase soak session in that day.
#595
Quote from: luffy28 on May 24, 2021, 20:37:26
Should I then do the technique (obe4u) daily? Or just on Fridays - Sundays?

Thanks.
I have no idea. Why don't you send a email or PM (Private Message), on his website, since he was the one that created the OBE4u program. He should know what you should or shouldn't do!
#596
Quote from: luffy28 on May 24, 2021, 19:53:00
I've been using the practical alarm clock from obe4u and am currently writing a guide on how to awaken during sleep without the practical alarm clock.

Thanks.
Luffy, no guide is needed. We all have a "internal alarm clock". You just need to create the intent to use it!   :-)
#597
 Just now I was perusing the "Users Online" section of the Forum and came across this interesting discussion in this thread here. It is pertinent to the discussions and my basis for my Doorway thread here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/imagination_vs_astral_thoughts-t1999.0.html

I really liked the post by Jeff Mash where he shares this quote by Frank Kepple "Basically, there is a fine, THIN line between your imagination and the astral realm". I find this to be oh so true!  :-)
#598
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 23, 2021, 10:28:06
"etheric tug" is a rarity for me, used a rocking technique (like being on a swing or hammock) in the past many years ago but didn't stick with it for long. I'll give your technique from the link a go.

BTW tried the waving hand thing from the thread you linked to, talk about getting strange sensations in the hands lol :-D I will have to play around with that some more.
Bob, the reason I really like the "Phantom Wiggle" technique is that it helps people new to this practice learn to "hold" their focus on one thing and also gives them a taste of "Etheric body motion. Both of those skills will aid them tremendously if they wish to continue pursuing this practice further.

When I talked above about "overlooking things", I said that I was guilty of that too. Today in my own Phase soak session, I once again had the exploding head thing happening again. I have mentioned in the past the intensity of the experience, but for some reason left out the part about the glowing light that gets stronger and stronger. Today, I was stuck in that "light field" until I realized that I had been omitting in in our discussions lately. Once I realized that, I could finally cross the barrier. Being stuck in that stage for so long was really taxing. I had to muster all of my will to just continue the session.

After I got through the "veil" I found myself in a small row boat. The current was pulling me forward. I could see I was in some kind of Cave. At first it felt tight, like the walls were close by. But soon it opened to a giant Cavern. There were cave entrances as far as I could see. The Cavern walls were really high and the cave entrances seemed to be at all different levels. I could have chose any one of them to explore, but decided to just stay the course and enjoy the boat ride. At no time did I engage a focus of forward movement or even "intend" to experience what I did. What appeared just appeared and I went with the flow, per se!  :-)
#599
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 23, 2021, 03:20:16
Thanks for the insides Lu!

Both times was something completely new to me, so got a little too excited and that ended it. But hopefully I'll get to explore it more once I get accustomed to it.
Your welcome!  :-)

That's a perfectly normal response and will get better in time. It's easy to get too excited. But don't do the Cardinal sin in this practice which is to mentally narrate, especially when things get going good. That will always lead to a quick end to your session then and there. The thought "here we go", I have found is a no no, lol!  :-)
#600
Quote from: Bob_the_floater on May 23, 2021, 02:54:30
It has helped me keeping a wide peripheral gaze, try to observe the entire field of view without focusing on anything.
Bob, that's exactly what it is like when you hit the "expanse", You aren't viewing through the physical eyes anymore, your awareness is open up like some giant peripheral gaze. What you are doing will prepare you for the "main event" that is soon to come!  8-)

QuoteI've had some success by keeping the mind busy with some form of visualizing. For instance a white ball of light traveling in a horizontal figure 8/infinity symbol in the head with crossing point at the pineal gland, after that got trivial I added a second ball going in the opposite direction then a second figure 8 rotated 90 degrees and so on..
Once again, another excellent focus technique. Motion based visualization is very effective. Do you ever feel a "etheric tug" to one side or another? If you do, you would love my technique that I made in this thread here. It really taught me quite a bit and helped me learn to navigate my NPR destinations. I wrote this under my prior name "Lionheart" that I used years ago here. A lot of it came as a result of Robert Bruce's NEW technique. Learning how to manipulate that "etheric energy" was very useful.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/how_exactly_do_you_perform_the_phantom_wiggle_method-t44583.0.html

QuoteThe downside to this though in my experience is getting to immersed in it and eventually drift off to sleep, it's a sort of balancing act I guess.
it really is a balancing act and like EV said, it's a personal one too. There is only so far that a technique that you may have read will take you. Then you have to "adapt and hone it" to what works for yourself on personal level.

QuoteI'll stop blabbering here :-D
No don't. You are doing great. Keep it up. You guys both have something in common here and your replies to each other are very valuable, especially at this time in your "evolution"!  :-)

It's nice to get advise from the many experienced Members here. Sometimes two or more people having the same problems can help more than the experienced Members can. Everything right now is new and fresh to you. I have found though that the more experienced people and even Authors, can kind of lose touch on those special moments and all the challenges that they had when they were new as well. I know I have been guilty of that. That's why lately in my Doorway thread I have been slowing the process down so I can relive and also be aware of every little thing that occurs during the process. We talk a lot about technique. But don't really get into explaining the things that occur during said technique.  There are things that get overlooked.