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Oh Beth,
I was so impressed with your post in this section. I must have liked your metaphors of your house so well I had a couple of dreams of my own. They were more in the form of a graph or diagram. And the background was a light yellow. In the meantime, I thought I would share my take on my life as a metaphor. A different angle perhaps.

Three Houses
I first began connecting the physical and the spiritual in a organized way the last few years. At least in a way I could form a sytem of thought on how it worked.I come from a family who the parents were part of the living environment. As opposed to say, them living way across country and keeping in contact meant phone calls and occasional visits. Weekly visits, usually on weekends. A way of life really. I lived with my grandparents a  significant part of my early years. My children are following through in the same manner. The three houses I discovered are three aspects of me. This is something I was never so aware of until suddenly things began to shift or change in my real world.

I've had a house for many years. It served it's purpose, and still does in a paradoxical sort of way. My parents had a farm. This was my other home. It was certainly showing it's age as well as my own. My mother decided she wanted a new house (don't we all[]).  So my dad went to work on making it happen. I was quite impressed at their plans and their moving forward with this plan. They even included me in on much of the plan and decision making. I had such hope for this endeavor. The house was perfect. I supplied the lighting and mirror ideas for the place.
Now I had 3 places. Through the years my things had collected at two. Now I found myself with my things collecting at three. Very odd, and kind of confusing, but it worked. To make a long story short, the third house toppled like something out of a fairy tale. My dad died fairly suddenly, my mother was devastated. She sold all she had and moved on. I was left with my one place and life changed for me forever. I had to figure a way to fit my things from 3 places into one. Even before I returned home, I knew it wouldn't fit. I had no choice and had to do it anyway.Many things toppled at this point in my life. My family dispersed, we all went our separate ways. My past caught up with me on many levels. I learned of multidimensional life in my multidimental house (3 in one).
Now if I can only know which came first, me or my house? Or the question may be,at what level at what time do I work to move on as my mother did. I've always had clues and a feel for things before. Now I have nothing in that sense. This seems like a good place to be. A good place on a certain level that is. I'm just trying to figure out the rest. How to move with the least amount of effort.Where to move because I can't stay here (too much work).
Most would say move to where your work is. Well, that's what I'm trying to avoid. God help me. []

Hey thanks MustardSeed,
Yeh, it does seem to say what can be applied to today's times. I'm not much into the understanding of bible scripture, and especially the old testament. My strength in the bible is more along the lines of personal empowerment and enlightenment. I think there are social issues in the bible, but I haven't any personal experience with it myself.

I see the pharisees and the saducees as the government and religious groups collectively. I'm a bit rusty on the bible right now, but I at one time, had a pretty good take of it in the New Testament. I've never been drawn to what the old testament has to say other than Psalms and Proverbs. These books have been a good source of strength and courage for me.

The scriptures you gave me seem to apply to women as well. I find the bible has always contained the truth. It seems I always see it in my reality (in the now) before I will pinpoint it in the bible.  

If it's no trouble, I would like the additional scriptures about women which you have mentioned, thanks.

I'm presently, through centering, attempting to learn more about microcosm/macrocosm concepts (used loosely for lack of a better word). I think this is working well for me. I spend most of my time in synchronicity, it seems reading signs is what I spend a lot of time doing during my waking hours. I'm learning a lot this may. I'm presently mapping my past and future, it's very exciting.
Religion definitely fits in someway, it's just I can't focus on religion too much because of my latest journey. Otherwise, I would be a lot more verbal about the moral, ethical, and social issues of today. The humanists have certainly had their chance at the important issues, they fail as far as I'm concerned. Science is an aspect I'm looking at now. Wow! Unbelievable things being dreamed-up by these minds. Many good things, but unfortunately, in the area of the human body (living []),and in behavior and psychology, failure in a big way. This area of science is in desparate need of spiritual intervention.

Hi Mustardseed,
Thanks for the insight. Actually I've always looked at the end day predictions regarding children about how they turn against their parents. This I've seen. They (the children)make use the court systems, regimental left wingers, liberals, and other like sorts, to use to their advantage (more than the youth do this). It has gotten to the point it's a laugh to the youth in order to control parents. With the added fact of divided homes, this intent is not a difficult task to accomplish. I think women have taken control of men in a similar fashion through the same channels as children. Theirs being in the form of sex control,child support laws, sexual harrassment issues, and other easy to tackle and conquer issues for her own purpose, in  view of this present society. The justice system is being used for foul purposes in many ways. Chip...chip...chipping away of the old institutions.So far, I'm not very impressed with what it's being replaced with.

My situation is more along the lines of a turf claiming. I had left my son in charge of the place once upon a time. After being gone for an extended period of time, I returned to find he didn't want to give up his "turf". It's been a battle in every sense of the word. Eventually I established my ground again [], but it's as if my son has become part of the place. It's no longer a turf issue, but more of a connection he has with the place (Maybe the mother with the son with the alternating migrains was a bad comparison).  What appears to be negative, actually is not. But, I may not be seeing it for what it is, being so close to the situation.

Sure, I would like your references about the things you wrote about.
Thanks again.

Mustardseed,
I don't have any particular opinions or views on the subject really. It's just that I've always noticed a lot of people are like that []. It seems that I can't get away with doing that.  Another source seems to veer me away from that role. Personally, I'm not all that maternal. I've been trying to get my son to "fly the coup", and I can't seem to make it happen . Nothing seems to work. I'm thinking, maybe some things are best left alone. However, since trying all I know to do, I discovered something that may have to do with the situation. My son an I seem to share energy some way. It's as if he can't move on for some reason. I can't move on because he can't move on. It's come down to, I'm in limbo! []   Since identifying this, I've noticed this same kind of energy (if that is what it is), is happening with this other mother and son, but their's seem to be manifesting by alternating migrain headaches between them. Any insight into this sort of thing?

Beth, what you said about karma rings true to me. Thanks. I guess I didn't see the same thing in the other thread.

What I've come to learn about my two bad experiences may have been karma. I didn't understand it back then.

What I have come to know from this is a little frightening.
My sister is my mother, and my aunt is my father (for now, anyway).
My mother is living, and so is my sister.
My aunt is alive, but my father has since died.
I can only learn how my sister and aunt are doing through someone else. I pay attention to who brings them up.
My mother brings up my sister fairly often. I haven't heard how my aunt is for many years, but my father knows.

I have to pay attention to my father(at various levels in various ways). This is my religion. I can't say or know how anyone else sees it, or understands it.

Now I know the above may sound psychotic (not understood), but it makes sense to me. I think many people cannot understand what is not given to them to understand. But I also think many people can understand if not blocked by barriors.

The "psychosis" represents not understanding.
I can make many uses of this symbol. I can also replace the word with evil.

The unfolding of reality happens this way for me. If psychosis didn't have such a bad reputation [], maybe it could be used or understood more. I think I was projecting my lack of understanding onto my aunt. My sister was projecting her lack of understanding on me. And it ends up working two ways, hopefully to the good of all.

I see misunderstandings in society. I definitely see the seemingly influence and imbalance of money and wealth.
I think it's many people working and living at different levels. Balancing of family needs and work can get real crazy.

I sometimes try to think of ways to solve the world's problems. I find living my life gets in the way of that. []
I sometimes think religion isn't the priority, society wise. I wonder if on this level, it shouldn't be, focusing on home vs work issues?

This is an interesting topic for me too. I think there is a significance where you are when this, or these dreams come to you.

A book which I found interesting, and gave me a lot of ideas and interest into dreams is from, "The Dreamer's Dictionary" by Barbara Condron


In "The Dreamer's Dictionary" there is a definition of Permanent Memory, it states:
Permanent Memory is the lasting record of what has been understood that is impressed and stored in the soul. These understandings are relative to the ability to create with and by thought. Permanent memory provides a lasting storehouse of the wisdom necessary to become a mental creator.

MK911, though dreams or symbols are best interpreted by the individual, I take a guess the tent represents a veil. What kind, or what for, can't say yet. I have a lot of good feeling about it's meaning. The orb may be a spirit or soul which is yours or someone else's, or an aspect of yourself. Since this is a permanent memory, I would be slow to come to any conclusions on the meaning of any of these things you remember. These things may gradually come to your knowing at a given time in your learning process. In the mean time, it can be alot of fun to try to figure out.

My traumatic experiences which I mentioned might have been karma. Here is an anagram someone wrote, it certainly hit home for me.

Anagram of karma is "a mark"

A mark can be a symbol, sign, signature, brand, trait, standard, score, imperfection, target, curse, border, effect, and a turning point, and more.

Sayings in English, and seems to be related to karma

Marked by an experience
A mark by your name
Mark someone
A mark against you
Make your mark in the world
Easy mark
Marked man


A point of reference?
To locate a coordinate in the space-time continuum?
To take, make claim to, or claim ownership?

I wish I knew what the explosion means. In my dream I already mentioned, I became the rocketship (hard surface in order to penetrate something). I think this shell was necessary to get through or break the barrior. My guess anyway.

When I was 10 (and there about) I would mind travel to a point of meeting up with a barrior. I think it has been called a void.

I had someone tell me that in Hinduism, it is thought or believed that when Brahman wakes up, it will be the end of the world. The meaning being, we are all in this being's dream?

I've never heard of Satan connected with Hinduism. Is this my ignorance?

Roshi,
I see this realm as the destination in itself at this given time. A bringing of the cosmos to self. Starting small and moving outward.

You can begin by seeing a pattern develop around you in life.Until you reach an understanding of your surroundings, and to the fact you are producing your circumstances, it's best to keep balance and control in a safe manner of the things you do. The fact you asked such a question tells me you already have a high understanding.

Why this realm? For me it seems to be to learn. My thought is that this realm is the destination in it's self.Something as far as my understanding can reach at this given time.It's about what can be accomplished through observing and letting things come to you for those lessons. With your gift, it is up to you to use it for what is the best for you in your hopes and dreams. The affect you cause, in reguard to the ki is an unknown factor for me personally.  Only you can know that.

Your future depends on the choices you make today. My hope is that your future choices are enjoyable ones.  

Shadowdancer, I found your articles quite fascinating. I'm not usually drawn to this area of thought, but your excellant writing skills kept me reading. []

In the meantime I was taken with your question about eating or consuming. I think you may be looking for a pathway of thought that may direct you?

I have a method I used during a physical regeneration time I was in much need for, at the time.

I had lost my ability to connect my mind with my physical body. I required at least 3,000 calories a day to maintain a 100 pound weight until I could find a solution to my delimma. I found success in a system of what I found, did get me reconnected possibly. What I learned to do was connect with all the muscles in my body in a new way.First, making it a concentrating practice to feel (and see) each movement of the particular muscle I was using at daily activities. For instance, reaching up toward a high shelf. Instead of focusing on the object being reached for, focus on the muscles being used to do the task. The more you practice, the more you notice these muscles working. After a time, it's like riding a bicycle, you do it automatically (you connect with that muscle in a mental way). It's as if you can visualize yourself in form of muscle in movement. My intake requirements and weight eventually balanced with this method. I wondered at the time, if this worked to correct my delimma, could it work for weight loss. It's not really even about weight loss in this system. It has more to do with the body taking it's natural form suited best for it. Similar to what you seem to say in your writing.

As time went on, an interesting other observation I made. I noticed what I ate was not being initiated like it use to be. With this mind & muscle connection, it was as my muscle form was directing me in the requirements of what it (the muscle) needed. I didn't have to decide what to eat, my muscle messenger did. After awhile I developed the thinking pattern of eat to live (healthy). This attitude strikes me as a good method for anyone interested in weight related issues. Instead of focusing on the commonly emotional things we do reqarding food, this method seem to be a healthier way of taking in and consuming what the body really wants and needs for good health.

The body takes the natural form it needs or wants to be in. The body does it's own ordering from the menu. It's very cool if you ever want to try it. You may find it's the only way to do it. I did. Just an idea for you.

Thanks for all the interesting things you have written about. I think I needed it. I hope I've been of some help to you.

I had a dream that I had a phone call. I answered it. The voice on the phone gave me a message. This message caused me to react in the way you described Nagual. My head started to vibrate in a strange manner, I then took off in a rocketship. I landed awake in my bed. My eyes were closed. Before I opened my eyes, for about a minute I actually thought I was a child about 10 again! I opened my eyes (it was dark), I still thought I was this child of when I was 10. I snapped out of it soon after that, but I thought, WOW!
Maybe this is time travel or regression?

quote:With genuine Spiritual progression comes the peace and harmony which will one day, hopefully soon, transform the planet.

I don't know one person that could or would dispute this statement.
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Adrian,
In a collective way it is a new age, a new movement, or what ever you want to call it. It may not be to you Adrian, but it is for a whole bunch of others. Definition of something is important of course. But shouldn't the list of words be established first?

What you reject earlier in your life, you must accept at a later time in your life (there is more to this than I care to get into, and it's gettin into my religion, not yours). This is what I believe. I also believe we can evolve totally in one life time, whereas others believe it takes more.

Maybe this board needs a glossary of terms section. There, a person can type in their own personal idea or thought of how they interpret that particular word or phrase.
 
Just an idea. []

I looked up New Age in the dictionary.
From the "Microsoft Encarta Dictionary" New Age is defined as, adj of a modern cultural movement emphasizing spirituality  n a style of music intended to induce serenity

From the Webster's Universal College Dictionary New Age is defined as adj. 1. of or pertaining to a movement espousing a broad range of philosophies and practices traditionally viewed as occult, metaphysical, or paranormal. 2. of or pertaining to an unintrusive style of music using both acoustic and electronic instruments and drawing on classical music,jazz, and rock. 3. the New Age Movement


After looking this up, I have to say, I agree with the difinitions given. I didn't know however, about the suggestions of it being "practices traditionally viewed as occult". I didn't know that, but it doesn't matter, because I understand occultism more now than I use to anyway.

Hi Mustardseed,
You asked a question I couldn't resist. New Age didn't let me down, but it sure has given me some scares.

I'm a passive traditional christian. I keep my faith to myself.
Years ago I was living with my Aunt. She spoke daily of her belief which could only be described as New Age. I listened, I found it interesting. I first learned of Edgar Cayce from her. She had a picture of several figure heads hanging on her wall. Christ and Buddha were two them, I can't remember the others. I learned of her concepts and such.
One day in the nicest way, I asked her where Jesus fits in? I know/knew who Christ represented, but I didn't see Christ in a group. It didn't feel right in my belief. But, it didn't bother me too bad. It seemed after I approached her with my simple and friendly question, my aunt seem to change.  She began treating me badly. More and more she built up anger against me. It basically culminated in her going into a full brown psychotic episode.She thought I was a calculating, and cunning evil person.
I left there of course, but the whole thing left me with a fear of the New Age movement. I thought it had messed with her head someway.

I never heard too much more about this subject until I heard of end time ministries. I took it for what it's worth. It seemed like a good against bad drama. I didn't care for the paranoia and suspicion it seem to promote.

I listened to a few other kinds of ministries that had some great psychological aspects to them.

Some years later, one of my sisters informed me in an elusive or eluding way that she was practicing a new spiritualism. She had who she called a spirit guide in her life. She also met a fella (who ended up being bad news in the long run), they seem to share this same elusive spiritualism. She was never quite clear how this all worked for them. I figured it was along the same lines of New Age(new to me anyway).
At the time, religion without the traditional Jesus in it was a bit foreign to me. Well, the last time I saw her, she came to my house in some kind of psychotic rage (not like her at all). She treated me much like my aunt had several years before, maybe worse. Our dad had died just a few days before. I figured it had something to do with her grief and some unresolved issues. She had this delusion that I was Satan, or someone along the lines of evil. She could have easily killed me. I was left with issues myself after this. It took me about a year to conquer panic. I had unresolved anxiety issues before that, but this incident brought the panic disorder to the surface.

Since then, I've learned a lot more about all the various faiths. It's my family I don't understand. It's scary!  Would this be a coincidence that these psychotic reactions occured so close to these religious or spiritual things?
I wonder what "the family" and "belief systems" have to do with each other? Am I even asking the right question?  

MustardSeed, I would have enjoyed reading about your New Age experience.

Thanks,
I agree, if it ain't broken don't fix it (cause you have to know what to fix first []).  I've been a literal believer from the get go. I'm not about to change at this late date. I know about heaven. God protects me from hell. God will make the change(s). The veils are getting thinner.

I think I know about the inbetween, not about the beginning or the end. Do you have any specific questions Mustardseed?

There was an earlier statement that christians don't want to grow up. God never said to grow up. Maybe the problem is too many man made rules. Man/Woman oppresses, not God.

That's okay Beth, I understand.

Yeah, I did notice the quote by Jung. You have to read it very carefully to "get it". I agree with the quote (after I figured it out). []

Hi Mustardseed,
I hope I can help with my take on your list at the top of this thread. I have a feeling that this all may be judgment (coming to terms). In the mean time, life goes on. I wasn't prepared for my judgment day/realization. I had it figured alright until it came to the decision choice of "Who am I listening to?". I couldn't decide. This is in a personal way, I can't say what it means in the global way.
Personally, if I had known more at the time, I may have made a different choice, I had to choose the best answer with the information I had. So maybe that's all any of us can do?

Your list:
1.
Could be from listening to end time ministries or other religious sources.
Astral sounds in the sky sounds like "war".

3.
Earthquates may be astral vibration. A quaking, a releasing on a large scale.

4.
You may become more aware of these things. This may depend on the level your in. Higher vibrational levels cause things to seem more intense.

JoWo made an interesting statement when discussing a dream under the title of OMG in the Dream Section.

quote: According to QM and many trustworthy channeled messages, we create our own reality through the contents of our mind, with what we focus on and what we believe. This goes for our dream reality as well as our daytime experiences. The difference between these two is that our dream experiences give us glimpses of untold probabilities, of potential physical experiences, whereas our daytime consciousness is aware of only one particular selection from these many possibilities. In QM, the world of possibilities beyond our three-dimensional physical experiences is called "multi-dimensional".

To use a somewhat simplistic metaphor, the multi-dimensional world is like a giant department store with an overwhelming choice of possible events. We pick only a few of those events and make them "real" in our 3-D environment. This selection occurs usually unconsciously and is determined by your mindset, which attracts those events that "resonate" with it. In a dream, you pay attention to some possible selections before we make our choice.

 


5.
There is an isolating aspect in spiritual development. You could find your more aware of the difference and you therefore feel as if your in your own world.

Fear of coming into realization. It can be alarming, but it doesn't have to be if your prepared for it.

More acutely aware of those things foreign to your knowing.
If you don't understand "witchcraft", you may take a collective view and it will appear evil or bad.

Things may get more convienient and things happen effortlessly and quickly. Your more in with perfect (knowing) timing, I call it synchronicity. It could be your spirit too.

You may become more aware of things that don't sound "right". You come to a deeper understanding.

Oops, I don't know if your a man or a woman. I'm a female.
I'm not sure if it works the same way, but I don't see why not

Torso dead said.

"For instance, mankind has probabably found a more "suitable" explanation concerning the reeds, such as interpreting them as scrolls. But it's difficult to envision why the most powerful of Pharaoh's army was consumed and killed by, well, scrolls of paper. It doesn't seem a logical translation unless the translator was trying to "logically" explain the acts of God because he/she simply couldn't grasp the consept of a Divine Creator parting the seas to save his righteous followers. HM?"

*Torso dead, please let it be known if I'm mispresenting you in this, in any way.

The literal as Torsodead speaks of is why literal IS valid.
Maybe it's a right brain/left brain thing, but both are important for the other. Torsodead has obviously gotten the message. That's the point!  As long as it all (stick a one in here somewhere []) can be kept "real", one has a point of reference. The amazing things that God can do, and what one man can do to bring about a change. Torso dead has made himself real by placing himself (or me, for instance), in the picture.
Thankyou Torso dead. It's nice to know I'm not alone on my thinking, although you may not be seeing it exactly the same way I'm seeing, I know what YOU mean.

Now that IT IS real, what else?  Moving on....a continuum


RJA,
What a great thing you have written about. It was Jung who gave me a  boost into the study of dreams. Thanks for the info about this book. You explain it so well too. I've always been interested in psychology. It wasn't until I began having my own dreams that it really hit home for me. If I had it to do again, psychology is where I would have gone. Valuable stuff!  And yeah, [], there are many books with the same concepts.
I've gotta spit it out, all this talk of water is making me thirsty.  
Thinking of all that water, emotions, base chakra (and it's purpose and meaning), collective consciousness. But yet, gotta stay grounded someway, it's all so interesting.

RJA,your added information is interesting too. That's provided a lot to think about. Thanks. It surprises me anything could be over your head, you sound pretty knowledgable.

This reminds me. Beth, when are you going to move forward on your religious symbolism idea? I'm beginning to think you don't have any.  []  ...kidding with ya

I can see why people take the bible in a non literal way. I can see why people take the bible in the literal & metaphoric way.
I've always been interested in words in the bible (scriptures).This interest was before I learned to read. In fact, one of the motivating factors for learning to read was so I could read the bible. As a child my grandmother had a couple of things on her wall, one was the simple verse of Psalms 23, another The Lord's Prayer I had someone read it to me. I memorized the verses, but I wanted to know more. There was another thing on her wall with scripture underneath the picture of the last supper. It would be read to me,but I didn't understand it's meaning. I learned to read and tried to read the bible, the letters were jumbled. Even after I was much older I could read anything I chose, still, when I tried to read the bible,jumbled letters. After a while, I thought there must be a reason. I thought it was my own evil (not what anyone said, but my own thoughts), so, I decided to search for God through prayer. It was the only way I had for most of my younger years. Eventually the words read like normal appearing letters. I still had some trouble, but by then, prayer was my main way of contact.
Through the years I've sometimes wondered why the jumbled letters? Well, I've been able to see auras for sometime now. When I think of the jumbled letters now, I think it was aura vision. The letters were jumbled because of the way aura reading is done. The letters during my early years for some reason caused my vision to transform to a different way of seeing. At least that's the only explanation I could come up with.

I'm definitely not an expert on the bible. I just hold the faith by following the faith (not word for word, for my own obvious reasons), but sometimes, others know things that I must draw from. This is easily another "message", and it fits in to the thread.

Listening, a subject along the same lines, but another topic.

There is a right hand and a left hand (Neither good or bad)of the faith to me. I know what to take, and what not to take at a particular time. This is difficult for me to explain (at this time). This is when I sometimes need more information,such as my questons to Beth.

When I first noticed an aura it would be in the dark around my hands. When I decided to explore it a bit I found that the dark background worked, light background didn't. Later, the light background worked better. With time and practice the background doesn't matter.

If you see a white cloud you might see darker areas within the white. Pay attention to the darker area because that is where the color develops. This dark area is made up of small little gray/black dots. If there is more than one darkened area focus on one of the patches. Concentrate long enough and color will show up. These dots have energy. These same particles may show up as light or sparkles, or stars in the dark.  

Aura may have a clear appearance. It looks like streaming water coming outward. Think how something warm steams in a cooler environment, this kind of aura may first appear this way. Once you see the clear wavy watery part, keep going. []

Marcus,

Yes, Congratulations.

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Beth,
I try not to debate the bible.Your obvious talent to search out meanings and explore is wonderful.However, the literal interpretation of the bible is as valid as the other layers (my belief). You have also mentioned the many layers.You may lose a part of the audience by cutting off a major component of the bible(sorry[:I]). It would seem easy to explore many of the levels without sacrificing something valuable to another, for it may not be given to you to see or understand.
I liked what you said earlier about how scriptures may have been written in such a way as to be hidden to others. That is a something worth pondering. However, it's your point of view, it's not in the bible. What the bible has to offer continues to draw readers.It's contents stands on it's own.This is tremendous staying power.
I'll throw this out there to you. If God is the creator of all there is, why would God use/need/want stories worthy or weak enough for mankind to debunk?  
If we are a thought from God, who is to say what is real?If we do indeed create our own reality, who is to say what is factual? I accept the bible in it's entirety. I can only perceive or receive parts of it. It is a source of many things, to many people, in many ways.
The symbols and dreams were what I thought this section is to be about. Dreams can be literal and/or metaphorical.
Allegories are a matter of interptetation. There are dreams already interpreted within the bible text.

I'm interested in what you have to offer from your point of view. It becomes more challenging naturally when one has his/her "beliefs". In time and patience, the truth will manifest. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. I have to listen before I can get an idea about things.Maybe it would help to know more of what you believe, if you want to say. Thanks.[]

Beth,
This info isn't an overload at all. I'm intrigued. Please continue. Are you saying the bible is made up of stories?
If so, what parts are not stories? By stories, you mean not based on actual events?

I tested out the replacing Jesus with salvation. I didn't notice any change in the meaning at all. When I get some time, I will try it on some more verses. I don't think I had ever paid attention to the "Jesus said" before. I have the red letter edition of the King James bible. It's about the only version to hold my attention. Plus, it has a concordance which I use a lot. I've gotten a bit rusty on the bible since I haven't been reading much the last 4-5 years. Looking at the red letters I do think of salvation.

The impression I've always had comparing the old testament with the new testament is of course, the birth/life of Jesus, as savour/salvation. My impression is that before Jesus, people had to get in touch with God without the presence of the holy ghost. This is seemingly a more difficult task. Also, without the holy spirit present, there was a darker cast of the environment. This being normal for those days (I imagined), but noticable, in contrast with today's. I had experimented with it a little in the past, and this was what I came up with anyway. This is why my latest spiritual journey without the "spirit's" presence has been more difficult for me.
There's a better word to use than the word environment above, but I can't find the word I'm looking for in the dictionary (or the bible,since it was handy). This word has to do with how the light can brighten the appearance of the person (making a person glow brighter). I think the bible uses the word, I just can't find it, contenance is the word.

I had a dream a while back. This old man in a white robe lying in a bed. He had white hair and electric(vivid) blue eyes. Beside the bed was another man in a white robe (I was standing next to this one in spirit-like form). The old man in the bed said to the other man, "I want a new name".
Any thoughts on this dream Beth?

While writing this out I had to correct a typo. I wonder if we shouldn't leave the typing errors in to see how it reads out.Just a thought.

Looking forward to more on this subject when you get a chance. It sounds like your busy with a lot of things right now.

Christ's consciousness vision-wise is like having something plugging up the channels in my head. The word is good and all, but it blocks my flow a bit there.  

Hi Robert & Beth,
I'm enjoying this religion section. Beth, your explanations and understanding are wonderful. I usually don't zero in on details, but sometimes details matter.Your enthusiasum shines through. []
Thanks Robert for the added info about letters. Within the word whole(all) is the word hole(nothing). That seems significant.

Here is a link to Hebrew letters in case anyone is interested.

http://www.jewfaq.org/alephbet.htm

Here is another link for a quick way to mix letters up.

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html

I plan to play around with words and separate the first and last letters. It's also interesting to discover about the same principle applies to words within a sentence. This reminds me of a speed reading class I was in. The course instruction was to not read all the words in a sentence.
I often scan large text and just pick out words or subjects that catch my attention. I imagine this is the same principle. In dreams I can see how scanning can take place too. Subconsciously it gets registered.All that remains is to bring this to the conscious level. What can be the inner mechanism that brings this to the mind? Once I felt it through the aura coming back to me. More often though, it seems to come from within.  I may try to find one of those scanner machines on the net.

Anyway, back to the subject. This is my take on God's mind and our mind(s). I don't think the same way as the christ consciousness concept (not a denial, just a different belief about where he is,cause I don't really know [?]). I believe God's intentions are for a free thinking, independent, and worthy being. Not worthy in the way we think. Worthy in the sense of who we are personally. God knows beyond what the human mind can perceive. This same perceiving ability is within our ability too. Our thinking is different than God's thinking. Human thinking can get very high, and can easily become confused for being God's thoughts.  Knowing the difference is part of the commication with God and learning. What is left unsaid by God may be manifested in other ways. This may be what synchronicity is possibly. It may manifest in other ways too. The superconscious mind comes in here somewhere but I haven't gotten that far in what I know. Dreams certainly has helped me discover what intuition means and is. I'm also discovering what empowerment means from dreaming. The distinction between who God is and who I am is very clear to me.  I think I'm on the right road.[:I]

I had a recent revelation. I have a great love for God. I learned recently that this is not necessarily the case for everyone, and may not even be a factor in the faith system (the love part being what it means to some). Someone connected to the a church ( a priest I think) said something along these lines and it really struck a true cord for me.
This is my belief in a nutshell (pun?...perhaps [])  
I think as long as I continue to empower myself and God continues to light the way, everything will go well. He knows how I think.And when all is said and done, God is there. We are in God's care.

I'm looking forward to the "Encountering Religious Symbols in the Astral".