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There was a big thread about pentegrams, soe time ago. It was very good, try searching for it.
And you might want to try sigilising your will, I like that method.
Rob

"You're blindly believing a theory by using those peoples words about think for yourself.. "

I'm sorry are you talking to me? Lets try and keep this out of the personal-bashing OK?
No, not trying to prove open mindedness, just trying to make other people see their own closed minded-ness. I see it everywhere, and if it was not for closed mindedness trying to hammer everyone else, we would be an inter-stellar species by now. I don't hate many things, but this pseudo-skeptical attitude is really vile. So I find it rather peculiar that you accuse me of knocking other people who dissagree with me, when the only people who are laughing at the other camp are the "this is rediculous I can't believe you are even considering this, there is no evidence for it" or even your harsher "bulls**t theory". As such you are blatently guilty of the very crime you accuse me of. Of course, as we have already discussed, none of these accusations are valid. So can we move on yet?

If someone uses one piece of evidence to try and prove the infallibility of the solid-earth theory, don't expect me not to provide opposing evidence. And if their evidence is flawed or incomplete, don't expect me not to point this out. Speaking of evidence, which is really what this comes down to, have you got anything you can add?

But honestly I do wonder whether you are listening to anything I am saying. I said, the quotes were to clarify. I find it odd that you are picking on the fact that I used quotes, rather than trying to understand what I was trying to say (in, and outside of, quotes). You could discuss our points, but instead you are falling back on personal accusations and emotionally charged sentences.
The same tactics are used against those who oppose evolution theory. They are instantly labelled "closed creationists", "quacks" etc....pah!

Rob

Ha yes hmmm

Did you read this thread or just skip right to the end? I am guessing the latter. Either that of you chose to ignore it all.

The quotes were used to try and clarify what I had already said. Peaceful warrior is open minded so I figured, maybe I just wasn't explaining it right.

But of course, Einstein, what an idiot....lol. Yeah...right. We can all be flippant, it doesn't mean that we have anything more than swiss cheese filling our heads though. This isn't debate by who can laugh the loudest or feel the most contemp.
I would bother to refute what you are saying, but since I have said most of it already, I don't think I will! However, much of the gist of it can be summed up in:

"Anyway, back to hollow planets, personally I don't have any idea whether the earth is hollow or not, because I have never really studied it. I was taught about it in school, however since I have learned that many of the things taught in school are nothing short of outright lies, I cannot trust much of that evidence, and I certainly cant trust the theories tacked along with it."

Which is a quote from....me! Just so you don't have to waste all that time actually listening to what people have been saying...

Out of interest, Einstein formulated his general theory of relativity by imagining that he was a tiny little photon, and then he imagined everything that he would see. So, it turns out, that imagination really is more important than knowledge. Anyone can get knowledge, and of course the imagingation needs to be fitted to that (which is a crucial point you seem to have overlooked), but very few people are imaginative enough to do what say....einstein did.

I don't have the time, or the energy, or indeed the inclination to hold your hand through the rest of the quotes. Suffice to say that if you thought about what is actually being said, instead of twisting the words in ways they were never intended to try and prove a pre-concieved "argument", you might learn something from a man who is regarded by everybody else as being a genius.

all the best!
Rob

Timeless - thankyou!! Lol yes, we do have a really good bunch here. Myself, I would love to go to Iraq, and see what life is actually like there, what people actually think of Saddam. I wonder if they hate Americans more? (the "highway of death" springs to mind....)

Paolo - thats odd, I seriously doubt anyone has deleted them, unless they were *waaaay* over the top and even then I doubt it. Adrian???

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All injustice should be worked against. Saddam is just another offender is a sea of scum.
This is awful, but I don't remember even hearing of it before:
http://nexusmagazine.com/canada.html

[critical]

Ooohh here is a good quote, Bruce Lee:
"The perfect way is only difficult for those who pick and choose. Do not like, do not dislike; all will then be clear. Make a hairbreadth difference and heaven and earth are set apart; if you want the truth to stand clear before you, never be for or against. The struggle between "for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease."
from http://www.eyeballsout.com/quotes/brucelee.shtml

And I have to agree. For instance, by siding with one viewpoint you naturally tend to discount evidence which goes against your views, as being irrelevant or not as important as what you already believe you know. To impassively weigh all the evidence before you, and judge whether this evidence forms a complete picture (it rarely does, especially on a subject like this), and then form a likely direction which takes us to the best ends, while at all times remaining fluid to change, should really be what we are aspiring towards. Difficult, to say the least, but a point to aim for none the less.
I am constantly reminded about the danger of becoming too set in one point of view. I think it is of critical importance that we try and steer as clear of this as possible.

Again...."The struggle between "for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease."

thanks for listening to my rants!
Rob

"For example, back before the first war started Saddam had counterfeited I forget how many billions of dollars. This money was one day off before entering into the black market"
I believe the reason he did this was because Bush had just wripped him off to the tune of similar amounts. It was, on his part, a very sly move. The guy has cunning, I'll give him that. Even if he is a monster.

"How much oil does Iraq really have?"
What were the estimates, between 10-30% of available world resources? I could be wrong.

"Yes, I agree, however this war is not about oil. I do think that a brief rise in the economy will happen if Iraq is transformed with a new government and has newly arranged infrastructure. I do not doubt at all that this factors in."
You president is a Texan oil man!! Your vice president, too has massive connections to the oil cartel!! Infact, much of your govenment is in a similar position, and there are glaring contradictions of interest. Who do you think funded Bush to get into power?

"war on terror" is a contradiction because war itself is an act of terror. This phrase is therefore reminscent of trying to put out a fire by throwing napalm at it. The only way this might work, would be if the fire were to simply explode and destroy itself. Should we pray that that is, or is not, the case? This fire is going to burn for a loong time otherwise.

"For one, he has promoted suicide bombings by paying the families of the suicide bombers who will attack any Israeli or American"
I don't really think this is not based in any factual evidence. You can be sure that, if it were true, it would be spread all over the news by now. Didn't they all come out the closet the other day (yesterday?) and admit that he really does have no links to terrorism? Saddams regime is opposed to Islamic fundamentalism anyway. Too much of a threat to him.

Anyway, all this back-and-forthing - has it actually affected the views of any of you good posters out there? I would be very interested to hear if anyones opinions have been swayed. I suspect, that most peoples minds are already made up.

All the best
Rob

"Yes, but there is plentiful oil still in the U.S. Right now many oil companines want to begin drilling in Alaska, and the natives in Alaska do want them to for economoical development. They estimate the reserves in one area to be good for 12-20 years. There is also untapped oil still in Texas, New Mexico, and I believe also Colorado and Wyoming. You are assuming alot here to say that we are only after the oil."
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the reason that these places have not been drilled already, because the oil isn't as easy to get to as it is in, say, Iraq? The oil-men who direct your government will be thinking in terms of *profit*.
There is also a large mass of oil next to the falkland islands, which even has the 2nd purest content anywhere in the world. But, it is very deep, so as of yet, there hasn't been a rush to drill it.
Although, of course, the other reason you are going to war with Iraq, is to divert home attention away from your failing economy, caused by Dubya. A classic tactic, used by countless polical leaders. Ironic, since it eats up even more government spending.

Rob

"I wonder if any of those people drilling miles into the earth have found anomolous archaeological artifacts?"
Yeah, I do think people have found some pretty odd stuff down there. Another high strange-ness are all the noises - sounds like machinery operating, continuous humming noises etc in some of the deepest (recently visited) places of the world. Probably secret underground facilities, or caverns, or something.

"You guys really crack me up...I mean I simply can't believe there are nutjobs out there crazy enough to entertain ideas like the "hollow earth" one. Don't you know they have physically drilled MILES into the earth's crust!? "

gggrrrrr!!!!!!!!! I entertain ANY idea, because it is the ONLY way to make true progress!!!! And as for your argument, I thought I had already dismissed that with the reports from the deepest hole ever drilled by the Russian - like Shawn is saying?
(sighs) - maybe Einsteing can explain it all better:
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

Yep, to each his own delusion!! []

Nutjob Rob []

Ha yes, interesting post, and I agree that you are a very open minded person - we are indeed in the minority. But, how open to you to the possibility that your government is embalking upon a program of genocide against you, the very population they pledged to support and serve?
Anyway, thats more a side point, it seems. I just assumed that the things you were saying were aimed toweards the chemtrail agenda etc.

Anyway, back to hollow planets, personally I don't have any idea whether the earth is hollow or not, because I have never really studied it. I was taught about it in school, however since I have learned that many of the things taught in school are nothing short of outright lies, I cannot trust much of that evidence, and I certainly cant trust the theories tacked along with it.
Now I'm going to use Darwinian evolution as a case in point, because I only recently learned in the last month that its all a load of tosh. However, I was taught in school what seemed like very convincing - at times even exciting - evidence that it was true. Your diagrams remind me of that, you know - the pictures which show first an ape, then something closer to human, and 5 diagrams later its an upright walking homo sapiens? LIES!!!!!! There is no evidence for that what-so-ever!!!! On the contrary, there is a lot of evidence against. In a similar way, your wave speeds for the inner-core are simple extrapolations on limited evidence.
Along other lines, thinking about this from a gravitational attraction point of view, hmm, it does seem possible. I mean, image you were in the center of the earth - the very center. What would you feel, gravity-wise? Some people would say, a large crushing pressure. But no, you wouldn't feel anything, infact all the gavity would cancel out, as it would be symettrical in every direction. If you were to then move in one directon (assuming a hollow earth), you would start to get pulled in that direction as you would be closer to the mass in question, whereas it symettrical opposite going the other direction from the centre would be further away from you, so you would feel its effect less (although that point, I am very doubtful of, I would have to model it, and I really can't be bothered right now!). The thickness of the earth would then be determined by the interaction of the gravity against the pressure from all that mass.
What I am saying, is that all models of the earth are based on very little evidence, and that you can theorise it either way. And, as for the evidence at hand, the standard scientists are well known for their ability to be able to completely reject any evidence which conflicts with what they already believe they know (indeed it seems to me that a lot of research is an affort to do just this - confirm what they already believe, whereas if they are to go at it like that it should be aimed at confirmaing what they DON'T believe, and then back again). Evolution, as above, is a good case in point (if you want to read a good article which destroys, tramples, burns and buries in the centre of the earth, hehe, darwinian evolution theory - read this: http://nexusmagazine.com/Darwinism.1.html - and yet they still teach it in schools, the press, well everywhere normal as being practically Bible, they even have to MAKE UP flawed evidence to support their flawed theory!! lies which they taught me in school)
The orthodox environment is totally opposed to radical thinking. And evidence which comes from that direction, IMO should be seriously questioned. Indeed, all theories should be questioned, and all evidence used to compare to theory. Please, goingslow, I am not someone who accepts far out theories to be different, but I am also certainly not the sort of person who will simply accept orthodox view simply because thats what I have been taught/programmed will be right.
So, evidence! Quoting from http://www.hollowplanets.com/ (table of contents -> geology and seismology, an interesting read)
"Below a depth of 70 Km the stresses are so great that rock should flow because of pressure. Thus, earthquakes can never occur there. And yet, earthquakes do occur there. They occur up to a staggering depth of 700 Km. Seismologists have long pondered the cause of these quakes"
The rest of the article is good too, I heard him on coast to coast and he presented some good evidence. Like, I think I said, how radioactive material from Chenobyl inextricably made it all the way to the south pole, but nowhere else in the southern hemisphere. But, you would not have been taught that in school, or likely heard it in any controlled environments like the "free" press. I am sure there is other evidence out there (there always is!), but I have to go home in a minute...
Ha, I remember when I first saw the picture at the start of this debate a few years ago, I felt qute embarressed that anyone could even contemplate such a theory, and quickly left the site in question. I now realise that I was, and still am, wildly unqualified to make any sound judgements either way (lacking any really good evidence). I do, however, think that nobody has the whole story, at least not yet. I now feel slightly embaressed that I used to think like that! Funny how times change eh? In only a couple of years my view have changed so radically, aye, truly the truth shall set ye free etc.

gotta run
love and light and all that!
Rob

"Hey, I bet those flying whales from space are going to live inside the hollow earth after they destry human cvilization."

Apologies for being too weird for you. However yes I see your real point, it is easier to redicule than face the implications of what is being discussed, isn't it?
They all laughed at Einstein. And Reich. And Newton. And Galileo. And, if the day after someone had said Pearl Harbour was known about months in advance, they would have laughed at that person too, and probably thrown them in jail (which btw, is precisely where the father of orgone technology, Reich, died). Infact, they all laughed at anyone who said anything outside of the norm, but all these people were eventually proved right. But, thats herd mentality for you.
Oh course, I am not saying that just because someone says something off-the-wall they should be accepted as right, only viewed with an open mind and even hand - WITHOUT preconceptions.
Sorry, but I am not going to hold back from what I know to be truth, just because it is too disturbing for you and your friends. And feel free to slam me if you want to, being a moderator is irrelevant like that.

wiggin wiggin wiggin......the analysis' have already been done! And then you go and do them, and another guy comes along who says "aahh weeell I would need to do the analysis myself" - thats the scientists last excuse for not believing in the paranormal! We know what chemtrails contain! But, if you want more evidence, go for it. Although, like I said, the best evidence comes from watching them being formed. Eg a plane flies over, and there is a sudden break in the trail, or it suddenly stops. Even in places where there is already cloud ie specifically the sort of place where a trail would stick the easiest (although, for a contrail not to evaporate within 1 minute in itself is highly unusual, they certainly don't form cloud banks of their own on a regular basis). Or you find many planes flying around where there are no flight paths. Stuff like that. The black lines are just the weirdest. I saw a photo once...I'll and find it...oh here's another, it isn't very good though
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?template=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1011&action=searchdbdisplay
But hey, enough of that. I've said more than my bit now hehehe.
Oh, a holy hand grenade is a small orgone (energy) generator. You get them in all different shapes sizes, and powers. The basic units are good workhorses, but the more souped up ones - wow!! I find a good way to test effectiveness is to use them to charge water, just INCREDIBLE. I felt so alive and mad and full of energy! Really, really impressive.
laters guys
Peace
Rob

Another link to info on the "Maitreya"
http://www.trumpetersmission.com/faqrev1998.html#question25

Go girl!!!!! []

Rob (engineer in training [xx(])

ROFL

I have e-mailed 'winggin with more details on how to build CB's, if anyone else wants to know more, let me know - PM or here. Happy to help - the more of these things there are out there, the better...

Rob

Rock on Enderwiggin!!!!!!!! Go dude...

ahem...

About chemtrails - this seems to be a good page about them, I haven't read it all.
http://rense.com/general30/deby.htm
It quickly explains the difference between chemtrails and contrails - if you didn't know what to look for, you probably wouldn't notice (really, how often do you look up at the clouds and consider them in detail?). However, once you have found out the diffrerence it is easily apparent and really quite blatent. So many times I have seen what starts out as a nice blue day been turned to a complete haze of dirty white chem, in only a few hours. On some days, it (used, hehe) to be possible to see a number of different trails at different ages - the ones just put down would still be quite thin, then the next ones would be more spread out, and later you see how they form a long cloud of their own. One thing about the above site though - I have never heard that they can produce rain (he says sometimes they do), I don't know where he got that from. Actually they seem to universally do the opposite, when it does rain this usually clears and cleans the atmosphere. Also, you get some really weird effects, clouds which are very pretty but look distinctly wrong.
A number of people have done proper chemical analysis on chemtrails - carnicom.com is one. Seems like a pretty straight guy.
http://www.willthomas.net/ - this bloke was on coast to coast the other day, it seems to try and pacify peoples fears of chemtrails a bit (or at least, make them think they are "for our own good" to an extent), by saying they are probably just trying to "combat global warming" pah!! He let it slip that this isn't the case though a couple of times. eg planes are often found flying and spraying at heights of 19000ft, which is too low for this. And, if this is the case, what about all the other stuff they spray out? Barium is a poison, surely they could choose something better? And the pathogens?? The red blood cells???!!!!? tsh....however, he did say he had some chemical analysis done on the trails, so you can probably find that on the site. Reduce global warming could be one, but I doubt it.
Really, it should be noted that the best evidence you can get comes from seeing it first hand. Oh, and go to google images and search for chemtrails or contrails, you'll find some good images there, so you know what to look for (some really good ones, eg the biig grid which comes up first, classic!). Also close ups of planes where the trail is not coming from the engines, but from the tail fins....hhhmm
Oh hey I just found somewhere else you can get CB construction details from:
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/goodbyects10jan02.shtml
And other assorted info
Oh I nearly forgot - doppler satellite images show areas of red and purple where there is chem, I am not sure, but I don't think this is natural. At all. Basically this is picking up the metals in the atmosphere.
One of the weirdest effects, which I actually saw for the first time the other day, is how sometimes you see a black line which extends from the chemtrail - its really weird. Some other people have reported that this black line can be seen extending INFRONT of the spray planes!!! It seems to be the negative energy being projected along the chem.
As for the cover up, its mostly a big media blanket over the whole thing. It came up on coast to coast IMO because so many poeple had called in about it, they couldn't ignore it any longer. Oddly, weather reporters in some places have started telling people "weather today.....could be the right conditions for contrails to form, so I think you'll see a lot of that" and then - guess what! chem flying everywhere.

As for the "maitreya" - I know one good article on the issue, I am certain Sean David Morton is a completely honest guy, intuition says yes very loudly. And he does seem to really know his stuff.
http://www.delphiassociates.org/
go to the conspiracy section, some other good articles there too with research I haven't seen anywhere else.
I can't remember where else I have heard about him though, a number of different accounts I think. But DO NOT go to his website! I know saying that will cause most people to do precisely the opposite but....do yourself a favour. Yuk.

Song? lol never heard of it sorry! I'll download it , it'd better be good! heh.
I mean (like you probably know, but hey its interesting!), like the different aeons, connected to the the astrological signs - egypt being in the time of Leo - hence that bloody great big one sitting next to the pyramids, then a load of time we know nothing about, then age of bull, taurus, which closed when Moses came down off the mountain, opening the age of the aries the goat, connected with sacrifice, closed by Jesus who started Pisces...the christian fish...etc. Each age lasting just over 2000 years, this fits the timeline perfectly! And places the sphinx, at the latest, 5 * 2000 = 10000 years ago, or about 8000BC (latest 10,000BC) - which coincides with geological dating, along with...pretty much everything we know about Atlantis!

aahhh...hmm I think I'm rambling!

You know, I have never heard anything about "Aghartians" - sounds interstings though, yeah cool would be good to share so info. I'll try and do some research on it at work tomorrow, hopefully I won't have anything to do! So, whats it all about?
I am not sure what you mean with my screen name - its Inguma, pretty much wherever I go, but where were you thinking?

time...for....action quake 2!

Rob

Ah, so you are saying, that fear is being spread now, at the moment, say to increase public support for war?
Well, I don't have a TV, or watch any new source, and I have been feeling this too! Not a lot, it subsided a bit in the last couple of days. However, maybe I am just picking up on a global fear. bbuuuuttt if that is the case it doesn't paint a particularly pleasing picture either, since whatever is in the mass consciousness is inevitably what will manifest. The beliefs and fears of the massive are a very powerful force!

Rob

Hhhhmmm!! Maybe, maybe....if everyone was give up all their materialistic, closed minded, anit-spiritual rubbish, it would become much easier for people to reach upwards, towards enlightenment, and more people like in our group here would start to experience psychic phenoenon? Interesting....I think it very likely that the suppressive force of the sheeple is a big controlling factor....GGGRRRRRR!!!!!

Shawn - I'll answer the question about a cloud-buster first. Have you heard of chemtrails? I'll assume you have, if not do some research there first - they are real, and they are costing the black government an incredibly large amount of money. The scale of this operation is vast, huge, mindboggling. Our cloudbusters should really be called a chembuster, because it is not really like the original cloud-buster built by Wilhelm Reich. Well, it disperses chemtrails, breaks them up, removes them. Chemtrails are not just about chemicals either - check out www.carnicom.com, they have a real witches brew in there, stuff like red blood cells, which is just bizarre. We know they put down a thick layer of negative energy over the land, cause upper repiratory problems, lower the immune systems capablity, and they probably increase the effectiveness of HAARP (another thing chembusters work against) and related technology (which we also bust, directly), and they have been speculated to contain DNA suppressing agents to stop the changes which are taking us into the next age (so trying not to say new age!)
We know that CB's disperse chemtrails - this can be seen visually. Eg many people see a real hole in the chem soup about them as soon as theirs gets operational. I went down the coast to eastbourne a while back, and the chem was really thick there. I came home - none. It just doesn't stick like it used to.
The weather around here got really windy a while back, and my CB was blown over a couple of times, the base is mostly buried now. That week I was coming home friday afternoon (only have half days friday), and notices chemtrails, thick, all over the sky - I noticed this as being really unusual, and suspected the cause. I got home, and sure enough, my CB was lying on its side. Uprighted it, dug it in, few hours later and the chem was almost completely gone. That sunday, I was visited by the helicopter, and very soon afterwards the phone tapping began - no clicks, changes in sound, anything like that before this event.
But still, it does sound lame doesn't it? However, when almost everyone who builds these things - and all the people who do it seriously - report exactly the same things happening to them (and like I said, sometimes much much worst), then you get to a point when you cannot deny the logic, the evidence of your own senses, and the corroborating experience of other people. The logic I refer to is that these things don't cost much for me, but cost the power elite types immense sums, and seriously impede their agenda.
More info on chembusters, holy hand grenades, etc at:
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html
However, that site is currently down, there has been talk it has been hacked.
the forums where we discuss all this at:
forums.cloud-busters.com
(but I warn you! They are a mixed bunch....there is a lot of paranoia there, which is kinda understandable, considering the forums have been under almost continuous hacker attacks for ooh, must be getting on for 1 month now, and there are always agents checking it out, trying to divide, spread misinformation, etc etc....no, I'm not joking - I have witnessed all this! Insidious types....)
Essentially, I would have to call myself insane if I refused to see what is going on. I mean, hehe, I would already classify myself as a little loony, but not in a "if I close my eyes it will go away!!! Fingers in ears I can't hear you blah blah!!!" type way that seems to stereotype most people these days. Was it always like this I wonder?
However, on how CB's work, this is a big ongoing debate. The base is an energy converter - it changes negative to positive energy. So the negative (dor - dead orgone) is drawn down the pipes and converted to positive (or/orgone). It seems that the effect of this is much bigger than you might guess. I won't go into it now, it would take far too long! But essentially, in removing the dor they also remove the cause/caused of this type of energy, like the positively charge chemicals (aluminium and barium - a poison, negative charged ions being beneficial for health, mainstream just discovering this...finally), the immuno-suppressants, and biological nasties, etc etc.
Its quite a complex subject..

But enough of that!

About the world "ending", well everything points to the coming of the age of Aquarius. Everything! - social, political, economic, viral, geological, atmospheric, super-geological (heh, I mean, solar system changes), ummm....prophetic (which even I have a little experience with)....views of extraterrestrials from contactees.......err...sure there is more, can't think of right now. If you want me to go further in each of these points, let me know. There really is a lot of data to back it up, and as you can see, I'm not *just* an armchair muse! The form which it will take is what is really interesting though. Lots of guessing going on about that...
When it all goes crazy, well I'm going to rely on God to give me direction on where to go, but failing that...hehe....RUN!!!!! I have been feeling more of a calling to get out somewhere a long way from anywhere, increasingly (underground would certainly qualify..). But, on the other side of the coin, yeah my heart says staying would be the most humane thing to do, so I can help other people. Ultimately, if God wants you alive, you will stay that way. I have heard there were people who survived in japan, who were right underneath the atomic bomb when it hit. They were praying at the time. Other people have told me stories of bullets bouncing off them, surviving mad car crashes, and they have no reason to lie (all CB operators, hence why they aren't just killing us...)

3. Lots of things. Plague. Economic collapse. Massive terrorist attacks all over the 1st world (they are already in our cities, waiting, with nukes, chem & bio warfire, etc). The US overtly become the 4rd Reich, after martial law is installed - due to "terrorist" activity (of course, the US govt is preparing for this already...). Aaahhh yeah the comet NEAT thing is interesting, its certainly being covered up, I don't know why or what its significance is. Oh yeah, you'll see the more exotic weapons being unleashed - scaler EM weapons aka Tesla weapons, mind control on a mass scale. The person who calls himself Maitreya (but isn't) will probably make a big appearance first. What we will see in the next few years though, IMO, while being horrible, is only the presursor. It will seem to calm down, with a one world government, with the "Maitreya" at the top of much of it, but he'll last only 7 years and then...BOOM!!!
But I could be massively wrong, thats just the way I currently see it.

I think thats enough typing for now!

laters
Rob

heh now you either think I am insane, lying, or am on to something. Which one you going for???

Wow nice!
I have only looked at a few (am at work heh), but I always go to www.deviantart.com for stuff like that. Those guys are just plain incredible, and there and many 1000's of images there. Digital mostly, some of them really rock!
I'll have to check out the rest of that site when I get home, looks great. Love art - cheers!
Rob

"By the way, how do you know if they're watching you?"
Well! The black military helicopter (black hawk) which circled me about a month ago now, and the fact that my phone line is tapped, are pretty good indications! [:O]
Which sounds uber-paranoid, but I can hear them cutting in an out when I am on the phone, and the sound of the other person noticeably changes, its quite blatent. Like, my freind said it sounded like it does when he is talking to his mum and dad on phones, ie 3 phones going at once. The other day it was really screwy, I think their equiptment started playing up, started hearing loads of popping noises and weird stuff, until we had to just give up. Its really annoying! But I am beginning to think it is entirely automated.
- btw I am not the only person to report this, by a long shot. Most people who build cloud-busters get similar treatment. Many in the US get a copter visit within the first hour their CB is up and running. Some even get death threats, and proper attempts. Luckily God wants us alive!

"What signs should we be looking for? We should hire some ninjas. Infiltrate and destroy..."
tehehehee. They've got a thing for black helicopters.

"Cloud busting, eh? I thought about building a cloud-buster. Maybe even a field of them. If these guys were after me, they'd have to answer to a whole ****load of REALLY GOOD martial artists. "
LOL. Yeah man try it! Get rid of them dirty chemtrails. What martial art do you practise - oh yeah, King Fu, in your profile. I'm thinking of taking up aikido, whaddayathink?

Helping people? Deep in some cave? You thinking of starting a proper community? That could be nice. Breaking away from the sytem, as it were. I'm beginning to think somewhere in central Afrika would be safest. Or deep in the Brazilian rainforest, find one of those tribes miles from anyone, or an ancient city on a mountain top, or something.

laters
Rob

Cool!
In one of my former lives, I was a hermit, and strongly suspect I lived in a cave. Might try and find it again at some point.
Yeah anti-gravity is definately the way forward! I am doing some research, sporadically, on that at the moment. Amonstgst other things.

"The electromagnet's strength would have to coincide with its placement on the earth's magnetic field in order to keep up the repellant. So we'd have to find a way to alter it."
Altering the earths magnetic field??? whoa, thats big!

"Special plastic, maybe?"
Well, the easiest way I am thinking of is just modifying a car - stripping out the engine, all other mess, so its just a frame, wheels, chassis and seats. Either that or something small, so you fly say a 2 person model with both lying down, facing forward, one person on a level above the other.

Sure would be useful to find an entrance into the central earth. Maybe if we ask Red Elk politely he will point us to a safe haven? He reckons all the huge caverns have their own little mock-suns, and some of the cities are just awesome....they've already sent a load of people in. I think I will either need Gods protection, which I am puting my hopes in (he's listening!!), and/or access to somewhere deeeeep and safe, cos some of the people I have annoyed in my cloud-busting work really don't like me anymore.
Aaahhh I dont think leaving money in banks is a good idea. They are going DOWN! I wonder if we will even have money in the next Age, suspect not.

This would be useful, you're in USA, you might want to think about taking a course:
http://www.trackerschool.com/
I would, but....English, long way...
BUT if I took the course, think, could just live in the Wilderness, no cares, moving where and when I want, aaaaahh, heaven!

Rob

"an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

Weeeeeell, its certainly an interesting proposition....

"This would seem to be the case if this happened to the earth. If one were to keep digging, they say that about five miles down they would be incinerated from such tremendous heat. Didn't they also prove that the inner core of the earth was iron?"
Hmm - the Russians managed 12km deep (deepest hole ever). I think that they did a audio recording of what sounds were down there, I heard it online once.....screaming.....fire....sounded like hell...Anyway! They did it to try and prove the continental crust theory, but unfortunately for PJ geologists, the earth they were bringing up was identical to that on the surface. Which kinda stumps tectonic plate theory (didn't stop em from teaching it to me in school like it was the bible though! Or darwinian evolution for that matter...even had to make up plain old lies to sustain that one)
Oh, some oil wells get to 6Km too.
Anyway I heard a lot of this on an interview a while back, would have been unknowncountry or coast to coast, not sure.
But another piece of evidence the bloke presented was that after Chenobyl, the radioactive dust and stuff stayed only in the northern hemisphere, because of the way the circulation cells work on our planet. None could, or did, drift over the equator. However, when investigating the ice on the antartic they discovered radioctive material dated to the same time. But none anywhere in the south hemisphere except the antartic....courious...

But myself, I last views were that there are probably massive caverns, whether man made or not, dunno, but big caverns and lots of tunnels. We know there is SOMETHING down there, eg Mels hole (and similar), the entrances in south america (some of which were dynamited, considered too "dangerous" - so a few people went in there and never came out, real Indiana Jones stories, but hey! this is important...grrr).

But, I really have no idea anymore. I need an antigravity craft....badly.

Hey enderwiggin - isn't cananda a bit cold? hehe I think you and me are thinking along similar lines. When the SHTF I am planning on bolting, quickly. Wanna join me?!
Oh, about the central sun, who's to say it is natural?

Rob

aye but fortunately in a court of law we only have to prove we are not guilty, and they don't really have any edivence to pin on her by the sound of things. Still, I do hope she has a good alleby....
Poor lady

ehehe you said you wanted more info!! lol
About 1/3 to 1/2 way down the page there is an account of Tibetan Monks lifting really big blocks with song, and Keely picking up something else big but I haven't read that bit yet. Just thought I'd show y'all...
http://www.keelynet.com/davidson/npap1.htm

and another link!!!
http://nexusmagazine.com/arcoverups.html
he also chats about the Ica stones which, likewise, are pretty stunning. Try a google image search on "ica stones". They are a load of stones (11,000!!!) which were found in Peru with pictures on them, of stuff like brain surgery operations being carried out, people and dinosaurs, people attacking dinosaurs!!! Here's some good dinosaur pics with desriptions http://www.omniology.com/IcaPeruDinoArt.html
Also, I remember seeing a picture of a cave painting in uuummm Mexico I think which shows what is clearly one of those huge big long necked dinosaurs...forget the name. I'll try and find the pic, think its on my work comp (heh, I don't have much to do at the moment! Done about a days work in the last month, I kid you not...)
Anyway they think that this uneducated Peruvian bloke in Ica had the time, knowledge, and inclination to do all that....lol. Yeah, right!
Our ancient past is fascinating, but very confusing! I think that the only way you can really reconcile it is to say that humanity came from the stars, and we've been around for a long, long time.

" Most of what we hear in our news media tells us the rest of the world does hate us. "
We don't hate americans!! I think only a misguided few do. We hate your government.....
The same misconception is made in Muslim countries - they say "why do you hate us?" " we DON'T hate you!" "so why do you bomb us - you live in a democracy?". Its just a big damn game of pitching one site against the other, making out that the other hates you so you are justified in hating them back. Ggggrrrrr. Unite!!!

America could have been out of the middle east 50 years ago, if they hadn't have suppressed free evergy technology. Oil provides a useful choke point for control and money gathering purposes. And arms etc etc

and hey!! I'm not an American. I am English, but I appreciate the offer hehe!

peace
Rob