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[Originally posted by dani:]

quote:Originally posted by dani:
i once had a dream that im
The commander of my own space sheep i dreammed that im flying the sheep but suddenly the Sheep started to get hot and more hot
it felt so reall until i couldnt take that any more

You didn't grow up on a farm by any chance did you?  Just wondering, because that little sheep fantasy of yours sounds like something that one would experience in a rednecks daydream!



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[Originally posted by Tisha:]

quote:Originally posted by Tisha:
Congratulations Jeff!
And I think you already know what I think about not telling her, we've gone back and forth on this topic before . . . . .

::sigh:: I know.....I suck!  Well, I have a feeling I will tell her soon.  Thanks for the congrats Trish (and the rest of you).



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[Originally posted by wisp:]

quote:Originally posted by wisp:
Congrats Jeff.
To tell or not to tell?  That's a tough one. When in doubt........
wait. Just my thought.  You'll know when and if the time is right don't ya think?

That's my mentality exactly.  I've just been in that mentality for over 3 1/2 years!


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[Originally posted by wonderboy:]

quote:Originally posted by wonderboy:
Hello,
      I imagine that there are several budding projectors out there who have some under their belt, and are left with more questions than answers. Right now I have decided that my next move will be to meet my 'guide.' Everyone seems to talk about them but I'm not sure where to find mine. I have been out 18 times, mostly to the RTZ. (or,...something like it) and I'm curious whether I should just 'think/say' while in my room or around our town house development "Hello guide, I would like to meet you please come here" or something like that. Tonight I'll try that, but for those of you with active guides I'm curious at the process by which you met them and whether they will show up in my room or at my front door or what? I would appreciate any explanations someone could give. Thanks in advance.
Wonderboy

I'm currently in the same boat as you right now.  In the past, I haven't had any success standing in a room and saying, "Guide, show yourself.  I want to meet you."

I think this is because even when I'm projecting, I still have trouble believing that things can appear in midair.  That goes to show how destructive assumptions can be for your experience.

However, the closest I came to meeting my guide involved a way for me to see him without having him appear in midair.  I was in the RTZ (like you), and I walked to my front door of the house.  I simply said, "When I open this door, I will see my guide outside."

So I opened the door and........nothing!  Just an empty street.  But just then, I saw a man drive up in a very sporty-looking car and park right in front of my driveway.  I walked over to him and we made eye contact.  He looked familiar, and unfortunately, I became too excited with the fact that I was possibly meeting a guide that I lost control and ended up back in my room.

So if that is any help to you, then run with it.  Just state your intent when you find yourself out that you would like to see your guide when you walk outside of your house, and then expect him to show.



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hey Alpha and Zarkon,

Thanks for the replies.  She knows that I have an interest in the paranormal, and I have tons of books on OBE's, but I think she just feels that it's an interest of mine.  She really has no idea that I can actually experience this firsthand, no matter how many books I leave lying around.

I guess the main reason why I (and perhaps others?) have kept this a secret from my significant other is because part of me feels like I need to have a few secrets of my own.  It may sound silly, but knowing that this is my little secret keeps an air of mystery about me.  It's kind of like knowing you can fly, but you don't want to show anyone else because it makes you feel a little more special.  

God, that sounds so egocentrical.  But the other part of me says, "You doofus, tell her!  You don't want to die and then never have the chance to tell her that this is all real and that you're really not dead in the traditional sense of the word.  Tell her so that whether she believes it or not, she'll know that YOU believe it."

Ahhh, decisions decisions.  Anyway, thanks for the congrats on the engagement.  


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[Originally posted by LapSiLap:]

quote:Originally posted by LapSiLap:
I read somewhere that if you wake up and remember everything you dreamd of you probably had an OBE. Is it true?

Not necessarily.  If I wake up and remember everything as a memory, then I usually chalk it off as a dream with good memory recall.

However, if I am conscious of the dream as I'm experiencing it, then I would say that I'm having a lucid dream or possibly even a projection.  It's all just a matter of how much conscious awareness you bring into the situation.


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[Originally posted by Frank:]

quote:Originally posted by Frank:
Like my physical body were laying on some kind of flying carpet and we were going off somewhere.

That flying carpet explanation hit home for me.  Unfortunately, I've blown MANY potentially successful projections at this point.  This is also the point that I call "the black void" when I feel disconnected from my body (because I'm able to flail my astral body around at will) but I can't see a thing.

In the beginning of my projections, when I would get to this point, I would become scared, because I would literally plummet at lightening speeds in a downward direction.  This made me think, "Oh crap, I'm going tp ram head first into the ground!"  

Once thoughts like that took over, the flailing and spinning sensations slowly subside and I find myself back in my body.

However, now that I'm more experienced with this stage, I simply remain calm and try to tell myself, "Ok you dope, just remain calm and passively see what happens next."

The more you give in to it and let yourself go with the flow, the easier it is to make the transistion into the astral realm.  However, at this stage, if I were to force myself to roll over or something, I can usually project into what appears to be the RTZ.  That is, I find myself in my house, wandering around.




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Well, I have yet to get PPSD but I have read Astral Dynamics and it's great.  Nothing in there made me say, "Holy crap, I've just been given the equivalent to a loaded gun and now I have no protection!"

If anything, he talks about a lot of stuff in Astral Dynamics which you'll find very beneficial to you.  So from MY standpoint, it won't hurt you to read AD firstm because that's what I did and I'm not so bad off.

Unless you count this horrible case of diarrhea that I happen to be battling on Thanksgiving.  


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[Originally posted by helen:]

quote:Originally posted by helen:
Hi,I just wanted to ask you all this------sometimes when I cannot be bothered Loggin off  this site I just leave and visit another of my favorite web sites with-out Loggin off,when I return to this web site  the screen displays that I have been on site --------- meaning available-------when I have not,clearly indicating that there is a reason Loggin off and  Loggin on was invented .
My Question is this--------how many of you have noticed this? and are you aware that people who are trying to contact you may have the impression that you are being a little ignorant ? or may feel that what they have to say is unimportant to you ?,when you may be just off the web page.
Maybe I am  a little too deep but ----------I mean no offence to anyone,HELEN.

Helen, I THINK I follow what you're saying.  Just for your info, if you leave without logging off, that cookie will remain on your system, so when you visit again, you will still be shown in a logged in state.

This does NOT mean that someone else was surfing around with your name.  If anything, it's a convenience for you as a user, so you don't have to keep logging in everytime.



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booRadley...

First off, welcome to the board.  I can tell you're an intelligent and logical guy, so don't take this the wrong way....but you are sure that you hit the "Post Reply" button, right?

I know it sounds stupid, but I run a pretty popular Message Board on my own website, and I've had one or two people b*tch me out for deleting their post.  It turns out that they accidentally hit "Preview" instead of "Submit", thought that their post was published, only to come back later and find it missing!

Again, I know you're a logical guy and this is probably something that you didn't do.  I just wanted to bring it up since I know that there's a small probability that it could've happened.

Anyway mate, it's good to have you on board.  Don't let something this stupid discourage you from future posts, as I look forward to hearing more about what you have to say.


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Welcome to the board, PJJ!  Looking forward to reading some of your future experiences!


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[Originally posted by helen:]

quote:Originally posted by helen:
RISU NO KAIRU
            WOW I LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY

Helen,

Out of curiousluty, WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>  Usually when a person talks with their Caps Lock key turned on, it means they're shouting or mad at about something.  Just wanted to inform you of that, since everytime I see one of your posts, I think you're ticked off (that is, until I read what you're saying).



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Helen,

First off, congratulations!  Welcome back to the astral clubhouse!

I wanted to ask you.....did you manage to project without any break in consciousness?  In other words, did you simply lay down, go through your relaxation and focusing techniques, and then phase directly into the astral realm?

Or did you lose cpnscious a little (as what happens to me when I fall asleep) only to wake up sometime later and find yourself able to project that way?


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[Originally posted by alpha:]

quote:Originally posted by alpha:
Have any of ya run into anything like this?What are these creatures..thoughtforms?It wasnt really doing anything but going along for the ride.

I remember one of my projections in particular where someone latched onto my back.  I interpreted it as a small child though, giving me a hug from behind and hanging on like a piggy back ride.  

Like you, I reached behind me and felt "it" and "it" felt real.  The skin was kinda rubbery, but the presence itself was not threatening.

I have no idea what it was, but I always attributed it to some childlike astral entity that just wanted to play.


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[Originally posted by MsAmericanPie:]

quote:Originally posted by MsAmericanPie:
What is ROPE?

Well, Rope is actually a large stout cord of strands of fibers or wire twisted or braided together.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>


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[Originally posted by jdwills:]

quote:Originally posted by jdwills:
Heres a question when you are having a obe you see your body as a dead host right?

I have never looked at my body in bed when I've projected into the real time zone.  I have looked at my astral body and for the most part, it looks exactly the same way as my physical body does now.

quote:
Well here my question is your body alive witha pulse so if anyone walks in they wont think your dead.

The only people who will think you're dead are the same dummies who would think you were dead if you were taking a nap in the afternoon!   Yes, you still have a pulse.  You still breath.  Hell, you might even let out a fart or two while projecting and not even know it.


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[Originally posted by elway:]

quote:Originally posted by elway:
and when ya'll tell me to visualize myself outside my body when attempting OBE....what do you mean exactly?

Elway,

First and foremost, realize that what works for one person may not work for another person.  There is no 100% right way to do this.

Why do I say this?  Well, in your question above, you want to know what it means to "visualize yourself outside of your body when attempting OBE."  For ME, this is something I would never do.

You see, like you, when you start out trying to project, you have no experience, so you try anything and everything that people say.  But in order to make significant progress, you should analyze what works for you and what doesn't work.  Take bits and pieces of different things and combne them together to make your own technique.

For example, as I was saying, visualizing myself out of my body doesnt work for me, simply because in doing so, I am inadvertantly focusing on my body!  This ends up keeping me too grounded to the physical and I can never take that extra mental jump to cross over into the astral realms.

So what works for one person may not work for another.  I personally try to forget about my body altogether.  I only focus on it in the beginning stages when I'm focusing on RELAXING it.  After it's in a relaxed state, I put it out of my mind and start paying to attention to the different focus levels that I'm trying to achieve.

Hope that helps.



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[Originally posted by amcturbo:]

quote:Originally posted by amcturbo:
Thank you all for the congratulations.  Being a parent is great and so worth every moment ... whether yours is a cosmic kid or not! http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0> Good luck Jeff, on your upcoming question-popping proposal http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_shock.gif" border=0> ... that's great! http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_approve.gif" border=0>

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

Thanks Greg....I'll let you all know how it goes!


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Congratulations on the new addition to your family!  I'll be proposing (gulp) to my long time girlfriend next week, and hopefully I'll be joining the ranks of fatherhood within a couple of years.


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quote:Do you think my wife is REALLY THERE in my experience, or am I projecting her from myself (like dream people)?

This happens to me a lot with family members, where I see them and interact with them, even though I know that they're not physically there at the time of my OBE.  I just addressed this issue yesterday in the following thread, in case you would like to read my thoughts on why this happens:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2629

quote:
Could I be interacting with her Astral Self or Dreaming body?

Yes to both.  As I explained in the previous thread, I believe that we're all multidimensional beings.  There are many aspects and facets to each of us.  There is a high probability that you were interacting with your wife, just on a different level which won't make sense to your logical thinking mind.

quote:
What are you thoughts about the various recurring theme(s)?

My thoughts are numerous on this topic.  One of my recurring themes is that I find myself in my childhood home.  I think this (and other recurring themes) are due to a lack of INTENT when we project.

For example, many of my projections occur spontaneously, after I have been asleep for awhile.  Usually at this point, you don't expect to astral project, but you find yourself doing it, as if you were on autopilot.  Usually, when that happens, you haven't had sufficient time to instill a proper intent to go somewhere, so you just naturally gravitate to what is meaningful to you.  In my case, I always seem to retreat back to my childhood home, since that's where all my fond & innocent memories were from being a kid and playing with all my toys.

So you see, without a strong intent, your astral body will naturally gravitate towards environments and situations that it's more interested in.

Another thing to consider....sometimes we are faced with recurring events as TESTS.  For example, you may have a recurring them of always interacting with a stranger in a park who seems lost.  After a while, you may realize that your goal is not to show off to him about how you can jump higher than a tree, but instead, you might be there to help him find his way.  After you complete that task, you may find that this recurring theme is no longer an issue!

For the longest time, one of my recurring themes was to project, find my mom in the house, and then interact with her to see if she could tell that I was projecting or not.  You see, my mom is a very strict born again Christian, and she thinks these are of the devil.  So subconsciously, my intent was preprogrammed to find her and interact in case I didn't give myself another INTENT to go on.  

Think of it like a pilot.  When he is in control, he can choose to fly to Mexico, Spain, or France.  But when he releases control, the plane goes on autopilot and flies where it was preprogrammed to go.  One of your preprograms is to talk to your wife and get her to talk to you about your projection.  If you take control and give yourself another INTENT, then you'll find yourself doing something different.


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[Originally posted by Frank:]

quote:Originally posted by Frank:
If you observe yourself going to sleep you will notice that the further you drift off, the more your mental focus dissipates. In actuality, however, it's the other way around. In that you are drifting off deeper into sleep precisely because your mental focus is dissipating. If you arrest the progress of this dissipation, by focusing your mind again, you feel yourself come back to Physical. And that's the habit most people are into: allow mental focus to steadily dissipate - drift off to sleep... gather your mental focus and concentrate - come back to Physical.

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[Originally posted by Frank:]

quote:Originally posted by Frank:
That's a nice reply, Jeff. It's amazing how we are both so much on the same wavelength.

I often feel the same way, Frank.  In fact, every time I read a new thread, I have to scroll to the very bottom just to see if YOU have responded to it, since I know that you usually advise the same things I'm about to do!


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[Originally posted by Heimdall:]

quote:Originally posted by Heimdall:
Jeff,

Nice website......I found your comment about the "dumb kid getting the A" pretty amusing.  I don't know if you have ever seen the movie "Mall Rats", but I feel like that fat guy that can't see the picture even though everyone else can, no matter how hard he tries.

Hey there,

Thanks for the compliments on my website.  And yes, not only have I seen Malrats but it's one of my favorite movies!  I love the scene where the fat guy yells at the little kids.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>



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[Originally posted by elway:]

quote:Originally posted by elway:
Why is it that I saw black? Was I out of body on the my attempt? and if so why didn't I realize it or see anything? Thanks
Elway

This black sounds like the "void" that many of us go through.  It can be very frustrating (at least it was to me).  When I get to that point, I already consider myself having an OBE/Astral experience......just without sight.  However, in Monroe language, I believe you were in Focus 21 (or is it 22 Frank?).....meaning that you were right on the verge of phasing into the astral realms.  

For me, when I have gotten to this point, I've used my imagination to create something for me to hold onto.  For example, when in this void last, I imagined myself holding onto some grass or something.  I reached my right arm around, and eventually, I grabbed onto some vegetation.  Once I had that point of contact, I was able to focus in on it, and my sight slowly faded into view, where I found myself holding some weeds in my hand while standing underneath an expressway out in the country somewhere.


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[Originally posted by Phil:]

quote:Originally posted by Phil:
Is there any dangers what so ever while having a OBE, I ask this because I fear cause I am out of my physical body I can be taken by something maybe a spirit or something, again I ask this because I am not sure what state I am in when having a OBE, is it still a dream or am I out of body somewhat like a spirit.

Hey there Phil.....welcome to the board.  I can only speak from my own experiences, but I have never come across anything remotely dangerous which would have convinced me that OBE's/AP's were bad for you.

One of th biggest fears is exactly what you have described: the fear of having someone (or something) else take over your body when you are 'out.'  This is usually based on the assumption[/] that you're indeed completely OUT of your body, leaving only an empty shell behind.

Personally, I do not subscibe to this theory.  I believe that we never leave this body fully.  Instead, we expand our consciousness to percieve and project things which are outside the walls of our five physical senses.  

For example, have you ever seen that movie "The Abyss"?  If so, do you remember when the alien beings took the form of water and began to explore the ship by slithering through each room?  I view our astral projections like that.  We never really leave the body, but we expand outwards and from there, we can explore anything.

I think that possibly a lot of people who attribute possesions to their out of body experiences are those who already have a slight mental imbalance, and experiencing something as wild as OBE/AP's just pushes them over the edge.  Just my opinion though.

quote:
When I have a OBE, I am in my house starting from my bedroom usually, there have been a couple of times I have seem someone in my house when I am having OBE I would get very frightened and return or wake up immediately.  Who am I seeing, other spirits or what.

You're quite possibly seeing either an astral entity (one who normally exists in that realm), a dreamer (someone who is dreaming and their spirit body is walking around), another projector, a guide, or simply another aspect of a family member.

For example, there have been numerous times that I've projected to my kitchen to see my father standing there.  Now, physically during that hour, my father would have been at work, so how could I see him in the kitchen?   believe that we're all multi-dimensional beings.  Part of you is reading this right now, and another aspect of you might be at your favorite vacation spot.  When you strip away all these burdening thoughts and you see the energy of your environment in the astral realms, you may start to interact with these multi-dimensional aspects of people.

So in my case above, there is no doubt in my mind that I was interacting with my dad in some form or another.  It's just our logical minds try to say, "Well Jeff, you couldn't have been talking to your dad in the kitchen because he's not physically in the kitchen.  He is at work right now."


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