Messages

I see what you mean. Theres so many places you can end up you cant always tell where you went. I guess I shouldnt be so hung up on where exactly I am.

Wherever it was I certainly enjoyed the experience and even if it was just a dream it was one with a level of lucidity I'd never experienced before which is something to be grateful for.

Thanks for the encouraging words.

There were only three details that let me know it was a dream and I'm now worried that my other two, much shorter exits were dreams too.

What happened was I "woke" up to my leg already rising up into the air. I thought, "yes! Here we go", and I rolled out of bed onto the floor. I crawled through the exterior wall of the building and started falling the four floors to the pavement below.

Everything went gray when I went through the wall and I couldnt see anything. So while I was falling I said, "clarity", "full awareness" and then after a soft landing I said, "light". My vision came to me over a couple of seconds and then I could see clearer than I ever have in a lucid dream. It was like being on the street in real life and I could think just like when I'm awake.

So I walked down the street a little bit and then started flying down the road. I started trying to think of things to do and I remembered how much I've always wanted to go to the moon. When I looked up I saw there were two moons; A bright one and a darker one below it and to the left. I'd never gotten out of my bedroom before so at this point I just thought, "Huh, thats wierd. There's two moons in the RTZ".

I decided to go for the bright moon and started to fly towards it. I couldnt get any faster than a few miles an hour. I thought, "It would take weeks to get there at this rate. Oh well, I might as well get back to my body to make sure I remember this."

On the fly back to the bedroom I went over a pair of power cables that had some really cool red, blue and white light spilling out of them in places. The colours were more vivid than anything I've ever seen before. I then realised I didnt need to actually go back to my body so I just concentrated on opening my eyes.

Suddenly I was back in bed in a strange position, with my torso in the air halfway between lying down and sitting up. That kind of freaked me out but not enough to dampen my excitement over my first good projection.

I then derifted into a short confusing dream before actually waking up for real - in a different bed over two hundred miles from the bed my "exit" happened in. If I had dreamed my exit was from the bed I went to sleep in rather than from my bed at my mums house I would probably still think it was a real projection.

For a while I was wondering if I had projected my double all the way to my bed at my mums house because thats where my other two experiences had occurred. But I've checked to see if the power cables are there and they arent and I havent been able to find any reference of other people seeing two moons.

I'm now starting to think both my other "projections" may well have been dreams as well because I didnt get vibrations on those occasions either. I have experienced the vibrations but only on failed attempts.

I'm going to have to do the playing card thing to check every time now. Is there any general way to tell the difference between a projection and a lucid dream? I had never had a lucid dream of a real place before; they were always in one or other of my reccurring dream environments.

I dont like it when I start snoring. It feels unpleasant and kind of distracting.

I struggle to prop my head up at the right angle. Too far back and I snore. Too far forward and my jaw falls wide open and I drool all over myself which is also pretty distracting.

Thanks for the link. I appreciate it. I'll read some just now and then see if the prison library can get hold of a hard copy when I get back.

British jail isnt that bad really. I suppose it all depends how much of a life you had to lose. I actually see my sentence as a bit of a blessing. It's given me time out from the world to sort myself out. I'm in an open prison now and its pretty relaxed.

Thanks for the welcome guys

Thanks dude, that just made my day!

/does a little dance round the room

I've had suicide on my mind for most of my adult life. Always been too scared of the consequences to do it though. And this life's pretty short compared to eternity. I reckon all my anguish/pain must be a good thing karma wise. Things getting balanced out. Cant cheat the system man. I just try to be glad that all my suffering is internal and that I've always been kept safe from harm. And you never know, you might win the lottery tomorrow. Imagine killing yourself and landing in limbo for god knows how long just to find out you would of won the lottery if you'd just stuck around another day.

Anyone ever know of an astral traveler that killed themself?

Hi, still new to all this and I dont know enough yet to tell if this was a dream or my first exit.

Can you let me know what you think please?

I got woken by a noise at around 04:40 and couldn't get back to sleep. So I put my body to sleep and went on a very long walk in my mind around all the towns and areas I've lived in. Some time later I fell into a non-lucid dream of the last place I had been walking through.

I then either woke up into my still sleeping body or dreamed that I did. I grabbed the edge of the matress with my astral hands(if thats the right term) and tried to pull myself up but it was too much of a struggle. I then managed to get my hands under me in a way that I could do like a push up. When I pushed myself up it was like I could feel myself passing through my real body. I could now see my astral self(if thats the right term) in the full length mirror beside the bed with a big excited grin on my face. At this point my left eyelid popped open a bit and I was suddenly properly awake and lying in the position I had been in just before I had pushed myself up.

I forgot to mention, I'm short sighted. When I had looked at my astral(?) self in the mirror I didnt see with 20/20 vision. It wasn't anyhere near as bad as without my glasses but it wasnt as focused either. Everything looked a lot more real and detailed than any lucid dream I've had in the past though.

So what do you think? I would have just assumed it was an obe but I didnt get any of the vibrations or anything that I've had in failed attemps in the past.

Sorry for such a long post. Thanks for reading it.

Hi, thought I should introduce myself.

I'm on home leave from prison and have been trying to find out about astral projection.

They let me out for a week every month and the last time I was home I found your forums. I'd heard of astal travel before but never realised so many people were doing it. I'm so glad I found this place.

I downloaded 'Astral Dynamics' by Robert Bruce but I was only able to speed read some of the important looking bits before I had to go back to prison (I was a courier of money in a drugs conspiracy btw)

The first time I tried to project went well. I got the vibrations and some wierd senstations but then got too excited to get any further. I woke up later that night and everything was like gray and cloudy and bright(dont know what that was). My eyes then opened and that was the end of it.

Since I went back to prison I havent had any success at all. I dont know if its because my failure to project the first time has damaged my belief that I can, or if its because the first time I was listening to a file made from bwgen (cant take my mp3 player back to prison). I've got my mp3 player for tonight though so fingers crossed.

I've got some specific problems and questions from my attempts in prison but I'll post them seperately and when I've done a bit more reading. I dont get as much time as I'd like to read off the internet while at home so I'll probably need to buy a book off amazon.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, I just wanted to say hi. I reckon I'll probably be around here for a long time.