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If you are being attacted by bad astral critters you could try the standard stuff .  Fill your self with white light , the L.B.R.P. , do a smudging , ect.  The bad astral critters could be thought forms created by you , all or most of us do this with out knowing it          .  One of many ways fill your self with white light. http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/psychic-paranormal/68328-circulation-white-light.html    Other methods are on the net and are easy to find .  If you meet the beings on the astral plane you could use Erin Pavlina's method of a light sabor kind of weppon http://www.erinpavlina.com/   

I know there is a sonic weppon that ships use , to keep away pirates .  A non leathel method that just hurts your ears, or some thing like that .  desert rat 

True this has nothing to do with a.p. Are there weppons out there like this ? With the gov. spending $$$ on weppons who knows . Will spending $$$ for a device off a web site protect one   ? I dought it . desert rat

Why would some one on a body building forum be an expert on astral projection or p.k. ?  Not that there is any thing wrong with a body building forum or body building .  One would ask a plumber a legal question .         desert rat  

As I understand it , sleep paralysis keeps your body from acting out your dreams . Hear is the wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis      Some call it the old hag syndrom , an old, ugly , woman is seting on you keeping from moving . It is covered in all or most a.p. forums and other new age sites . desert rat  

Some one will haft to a.p. or remote view a lab where some of these weppons are being work on to see if they are real or just b.s. desert rat 

I dont know why 'arrogrant scientists " are beinging included in this .  Astral projection is not relly accepted by scince .     I could go on to an astro-phy. forum and tell them the big bang theory  ,the red shift of the cosmos,      string theory , quntum mec. ,   and some others are b.s. as they make little scense. desert rat

To Lean Low , read Robert Monroe's first book " journeys out of the body "  where he goes out of body by accdent . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Monroe  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZZHXtzuJ9c    desert rat 

To Lean Low ,  hear is a link to a post-link I made on another forum , its a FEAR based  dangers of a.p. you tube video . Its funny to watch . http://halfway.oceanfalls.org/index.php?topic=3004.0  And a discussion of it on astral dynamics http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?13423-Dangers-of-oobe    desert rat 

Art Bell , did his coast to coast over night radio show , not believing all that he talked about over the air .  One night while in Paris he had an out of body experence . He said it completely changed his ideas . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell    desert rat 

This is a you tube    DickSutphen  link .  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yBxyIoYeyo    There are some fear based a.p. videos on you tube made by church groups , I will post a link when I find them . I also use the name Erin Pavlina , her blogs are for free , but I think she still does do readings , for witch she does charge a fee . http://www.erinpavlina.com/     WE all need to eat . desert rat  

I use DickSutphen's name because he knows his stuff . Some of his mp3 can be downloaded from torrent sites . I think some are  on you tube , so its free . In the 70s he made a.p. tapes for guys in jail .      I also use a lot of other names .  Robert Monroe , Willam Buhlman , Bruce Goldberg , Robert Bruce, and a few more . I use links to wikipedia , on another forum some think I work for them . Wiki is non profit and they ask for donations .  desert rat 

I found these links on a witch's cradle .  This is not quite what I visualized when I read that book .  http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3403804882.html   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KGS3V1vkYk  desert rat

I have yet to have a conscious o.b.e. my self . I do remember reading about some thing the author of this book called a " witch 's cratel .  Kind of like a hamock , but you are vertical . Made out of rope .  You had to be helped in to and out of it . If I find the book I will post the isbn #  .  desert rat  

There may be a few people with the mental discplin to use mind altering substances to reach alter states of consciousness and mantain controll .  I would never trust any thing I experenced while using drugs .  Beer makes me silly , pot made me ( like 20 years ago) hungry and parnoid . desert rat

Its warm in my part of the world  ( west of Phoenix ,AZ)   , and the trees are starting to leaf out . Maby you are a.p. ing some   where warmer where the trees are leafing out rite now .  desert rat 

So i read some stuff on this forum , are people for real More than half people on this forum are mentally ill .

What are you basing this on ? Do you have a problem with astral projection ? There have been a few posts made by new members that dont alwayse make scense . To a few members English is a secound lang. , but they can usly get there point across . Me ? I am a bad speller .  I have also made a post or two after a can or three of beer , and will explane later . I have been acused of being a bot ( computer program ) a couple of times .  I am a real human, with out mental illness . desert rat

I have found some links on some of this .  Some of the links are selling stuff , I  would be care full in spending money on products like them .   Also I would not want to be scene in public wearing a foil hat . http://gbppr.dyndns.org/mil/mindcontrol/index.html  http://www.lonestarconsultinginc.com/free-mind-control-tutorial.htm  http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_mindctrl2.htm http://www.quwave.com/defender.html  This may be for real , it could be b.s. desert rat 

This all falls into what is called psychological war fair .  Either a radio freq. is used or people use there minds to hurt others or make them to do something .  Some of what a guy that wrote some books on the Montauk project .  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project  Its been many years since I read some of the books , but I remember a part where they used a radar freq. some where around 430 - 450 mhz ( police and fire radio freq now )      and pulse   modjulated by a square wave sig. It made people start fighting .  desert rat 

Some of the sites on this post made by me on Pavlina as it closed are a.p. forums . http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/fun-recreation/71273-list-other-forums.html   some may closed as that post was made in 2011    .  Not a forum but Erin Pavlina has blogs on a.p. http://www.erinpavlina.com/     desert rat  
p.s. two I forgot , started by a member hear http://www.paranormalportal.net/   but not very active , and http://www.paranormalforums.net/   you must join to read the posts , there is a a.p. sub sec. 

I had read stories of using radar freq. and modulating it in a way to make people have fights .  I believe it was in the same book on the Montock project . I dont know if this is of the same teq. as this voice to skull or some thing completely different , but it has nothing to do with astral projection . This link is in a slightly different direction , but this lady thought a guy she knew in Russia was using his mind to create problems for her , putting thoughts in her head . http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/psychic-paranormal/53476-abuse-telepathy-channel.html   desert rat 

There are a whole bunch , a web search is quite easy , but hear are 3 . http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/forum.php http://meditationtime.grou.ps/  http://shopofenlightenment.com/forum/    There are also many new age/med phy. forums with a.p. as a sub forum .  desert rat 

We had a discussion on half way  on the Titanic , the site owner Royster had past life memories from that ship .  http://halfway.oceanfalls.org/index.php?topic=1095.0   desert rat  
p.s. you can get past life   self hypnosis cds , mp3s from the net and in new age book stores .

DickSutphen says you can go any where you want  while out of body    .  http://www.richardsutphen.com/   desert rat

I am not sure if any one is really sure .  It is possable they have alwayse been hear .  Not ever one agrees that people get a psychic attack .  desert rat