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Seems like there is a fair bit of speculation on this, but most revolves around it having something to do with commerce.
Two interesting ones:
1) BEAST is, infact, the name of a giant supercomputer in the EU offices (I think there anywhere), represents some acronym. It is linked to banks, companies, and is used to track money on a massive scale. The mark is a barcode which is stamped on to the skin, into the subdermal layers. 666 (have heard this a few times) refers to the code for 6 being at the start, middle, and end of every bar code (called the "gaurd" bars) - looks like two thin parellel lines. But who the hell would have a bar-code imprinted on their forehead?? And, as a method of ID, would be easy to fake. But, it IS on all things....and this has already started happening in some places apparently.
2) Microchip, implanted just under the skin. The forehead and wrist are the warmest places in the body, which is what they are supposed to be powered by (gradient between skin side and body temp). 666?? Not sure.
I am sure we will all find out soon enough though!!
laters
Rob

I'm reckoning on everyone. They all had to start somewhere! And we all have the a piece of the same flame burning inside of us, its just how brightly thats the question.

I don't want to sound like your fight is hopeless but I also don't think there is a whole lot a person can do against such a strong psychic attack unless you too are a powerful magickian, but then you wouldn't be looking for advice here. Some people will think this is disempowering but I think it is more realistic.
You need to find yourself an advanced practitioner, someone who is close to God and a stronger magickian than this guy. Where do you live...hmmm lets see....US. Maybe RB could put you in touch with someone. Nita?
I gave this email address to Need too and I don't like just sending lots of people in the direction of someone I don't know but RB's buddy Romero de Cunha is probably one of the best people to help you with this, if only you lived in or could get to Portugal....I think he is reached at tutankamonpt@hotmail.com
Hope it works out
Rob

Hey
Sorry to hear about your predicament. Some people are really messed in the head [}:)] huh?
As per the book, make sure you have a big cross drawn over your heart at all times, and the relevant symbols on your feet, that will hopefully make things more difficult. I am thinking it is likely he has an attached neg, which is very close to him, and helps him do all the things he does - big psychic powers and the like.
But why is he doing this? Just for power?
all the best
Rob

Hey!
Another problem....attached screenshot, when I tried to get into the private messages. It was not working at all this time, stuck with the menu open (but only that one, none of the others would open...). Tried a couple of times - I can't see the new message it claims that I have, and the weird blue bit is always there. Very strange. Though I can usually access messages.
Keep up the good work mate!
Rob

Oooohhhhh very nice.
I had the reported problem when I first logged on (no active threads, nothing to find), but figured changes were in the works and now I come back and it all seems to work.
Adrian - are you sure the page from you start at is really necessary? Why not just go straight to "all topics you have access to"? I think it might just confuse a lot of people otherwise. Confused me!
cheers
Rob

Feck, I wrote a nice reply to this the other day, guess something went wrong somewhere. Maybe they stole it!!!! LOL I couldn't find this thread at one point and went ranting to Adrian that I thought "they" had taken it but it turned out I only needed to hit refresh!!! OOoops!! hehehe. But it goes to show, it is very easy to become paraoid about all this after a while.

Anyway I will try again...

EnderWiggin: Hehe I like your attitude! Orgone generators, well a CB is in kind na orgone generator. It is a bit of a misleading term - you see "orgone" refers to good energy, and "dor" and "oranor" (oranur? not sure) refer to bad types - dead and agited energy respectively (although it strikes me that there should then be two forms of positive energy?? Hmmm). Oranur, after its over-excitation phase, eventually leads to dor. The "orgonite" (ie metal particles and resin) converts these bad types back into orgone. The crystals, shape and other additions (eg copper pipes) direct and modulate and increase the flow of energy, as well as the shape of the vortex', its range, direction etc etc.
So a holy hand greanade (HHG) is an orgone generaot, and they are *easy* to make! But remember polyester resin is a helluvalot cheaper than epoxy.
However, you can buy all this stuff online, and some very nice stuff at that. Decals on the side, lots of additions inside to ramp their power up (magnets, coils, crystals, funny metals and materials....). Just go to google and type in the relevant words, or the cloud busters forums have some of the best people in ads at the top of the page.

Dovelady: CB's seem to have an effect on all forms of weather manipulation - they essentially balance the atmosphere. I used to see grid patterns in the clouds, but no more. There are other ways of neutralising HAARP arrays and all, by gifting small HHG's next to or around them. People think that this has strong effects and removes their capacity to manipulate the weather, but I have my doubts. With strong oranur-creating devices like cell phone towers, probably, but methinks the more weaponised forms can't be stopped like that. Still, CB's work in their local atmosphere.
Strangely, I am told that most people simply don't see the CB's. Although I did see a picture of someone who had a vine growing up and around one, it looked very nice. Otherwise, just bury it up to the top of the base, plant plants are pretend it is an art feature!

laters

Rob

I have been thinking about this too, and can come up with two reason:

First, well it is funny you should say this - I was talking to a skilled level mapper for my favourite game, action quake 2 (online) just the other day. I asked if he has written maps for other games, and he said, to sum up
"No, why should I? I make the maps for myself, that I am proud of them and that is all that matters. So many people get into it to try and be cool, and thats just the wrong reason. Also, when people think you are good at something, you are only setting yourself up for it" - ie there is then pressure to continue on that level, and the motivation stop coming so much from inside but from an outside controlling force (and in this situation ego also steps in, unless are a practical Gandhi!). This can also change motivations which were once pure, so while you may not have initially have cared about other peoples attitudes, you might end up only trying to play up to them. So really there are two good reasons there.

The next idea I have had ie waaay more metaphysical! People, on the whole, exert a strong "negative-psi" because of their beliefs. This means that because they don't believe in these things they form barriers against it, and tend to manifest that reality around them (why scientists supposedly never see ghosts, or come under psychic attack)  Ironic really! And quite amusing in a sad way, that they are still using the forces they claim don't exist, but only to reinforce their beliefs.
But anyway, then you can say that if they think you are doing things which are "impossible", their opinions will put a damper on your effects.
And to go a step further, it may be possible that this effect is not bounded by time, so that by telling someone of an event in the past, that event will subseuqntly be dumbed down from that present. You never know, someitmes things may fail entirely because you tell someone about it in the future!! I know, headf**k material! But interesting. I read about a scientifically controlled study once on the retroactive effects of prayer once which was great! About 5 or so years after the event, they formed a list of want-to-be-mothers in a random clinic, then randomly split the group in two, prayed for one half to become pregnant and have kids but left the others alone. They then checked to see the results. Significant difference!!!
- btw I am going to test this theory very soon, doing an experiment my brother doesn't believe will work, and then presenting the findings but ONLY should it work. I will continue trying until something comes out. Maybe I will see if keeping the results to myself will make any difference.

laters

Rob

hey people

A few quick points....

Anyone who disagrees that drugs can have positive, lasting, psychological effects - even beneficial spiritual effects - go and do some research on Ibogaine. I plan to take some in the future, when the time is right. Amazing stuff by all accounts.
I have heard the old "short cut" argument many times now, but as I think has already been remarked, it is only a means to an end. There any many many paths you can take, this is just one of them.
Also, I have to say that I have tried ketamine, and it made me realise that reality really isn't that real, being much more fluid and oddly subjectivel than everyday experience suggests. I also have friend who takes the stuff regularly and is really quite screwed up because of it

*MODERATION* is the key.
I honestly cannot stress that enough.
Regular intake of any drugs is a bad thing.
But trying some drugs just once, is also a bad thing (eg in my very limited experience, exstacy). So start small, get your sea legs, and then try a larger dose.

However, there are no absolutes, ESPECIALLY on a topic as subject as drug use. One persons heaven turns into another persons hell. Again, we each can only find our own way. Eyes sharp though!

As for why it is illegal?? Well, and I hate absolutes just in general, but I have to say that anybody who thinks the reasons are for the good of the population, simply has not done their homework. Making drugs illegal, as has been proved many times, does not decrease usage - it increases it (eg decriminalisation in switzerland, usage statistics on amsterdam compared to america, the effects of alcohol prohibition in america, etc etc etc). Faced with such evidence, ALL arguments to keep drugs illegal fall flat on their face.
What making them illegal does do, however, is increase the prices....hmm. It also forms huge devides between drugs users, and those who don't use drugs. Reinforced by media bulls**t, this gap grows wider and wider. And from here you only plunge head-long into conspiracy theories so I'll keep retreat back into my corner mumbling about the end of the world and reptilians if you all don't mind....hehehe

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Rob
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seperation = bad
coming together = good

Need

I realise that this will not be very useful but it is my belief that for people like you and me, we often have to find our own way through the problems thrown up against us. I have only a little similar experience with what you are talking about with energy wires coming out the top of your head, but I do have quite drastic problems with my own energy body and psychic influences, which I have not found anybody else to have. This, again, is something I have to work my own way past, otherwise I would not grow from it. So, while you may be alone on this, you are not really alone, because there are more people out there, all working towards the same end. Keep up the good work!!

On a more practical note, the LBRP ritual is good for cutting off energy links and freeing you. Also as I am sure you are aware long term energy attachments are often found at points of skin blemishes (moles, etc), so you might want to try doing drawings on such blemishes around your head. You might get some funny looks though http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_tongue.gif" border=0>! Maybe regular visualisation of the sacred symbols over the entire top of your head will also help, but this must be a regular thing, otherwise it won't work.

Hope this helps in some way...

all the best
Rob

Oops I managed to miss the last replies to this thread..

Oliver - I am afraid i cannot tell you precisely how they work because we honestly don't know! I mean, I can look at it from an energetic point of view and say that yes, the tubes on the top draw in and push out energies, the crystals and coils etc inside helping the flow of energy. For HHG's (Holy Hand Grenades) the flow of energy and the vortex' which are set up rely on the shape (eg pyramid) and the arrangement of crystals. But, how a cloudbuster interacts with the physical, is pretty much unknown. I am reading T. Beardens "The Excablibur Briefing" at the moment though, maybe that will shed some light on the subject.

Demigod - half right. Russians have been playing with the weather for many years now, and primarily use western Australia for their weapons testing exercises - see
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/bskies2.html
for more in depth reports.
And, yes, the people at the top of the conspiracy food chain do not seem to be too impressed with our grass root efforts to break up chemtrails, many people on the cloudbusters forums report being followed around (quite blatently at times), having their phone lines tapped, being put under surveillance, being buzzed by black helicopters 30 minutes after they get their CB's up and running, even attempts on their lives. Personally I haven't noticed anything like this, but that ain't to say it doesn't happen. I mean, when I consider the evidence I have gathered, I know that:
- chemtrails are real, therefore conspiracies are real, therefore the whole New World Order thing is probably along the right lines.
- cloudbusters disperse chemtrails and break droughts
I mean, I would be very surprised if people like me were NOT under some form of surveillance!!

To clarify some of my results to date:
Broke a 1 month drought on the south coast of England
Barely see any chemtrails, they certainly don't last long if they appear at all. I went about 1 hour down the coast a few weeks back and the sky was thick, I mean THICK, with chemtrails and other signs of weather engineering. I went home, nothing.
Beneficial psychological effects, very uplifting. water charged over my HHG is amazing stuff, and my dreams became much more vivid.
A freind of mine I am trying to advise to help get rid of her neg, I put a nice HHG under her bed, she doesn't get nightmares any more (at least, not like before) - that is, unless she sleeps somewhere else, somewhere unprotected by orgonite. I gave her a smaller peice before this and all indications are it really p****d off her resident neg, which is a good sign.

Any more questions just shoot! And I would be interested to hear other people experiences with this stuff.

love
Rob

Naa, they are very easy to make! Not brilliantly explained. All the wood stuff is basically to hold the pipes in place, and not completely necessary but helps. Apart from that, polyester or epoxy resin, metal particulates, crystals, copper pipes and you are pretty much in business.
It is immensely satisfying to get one running, and then see it raining the next night after a 1 month drought. To know that with very little money you are fighting against a multi $$billion operation....
But yeah, I admit it does sound odd. Eventually, you just have to try this stuff yourself.
....although in the near future I am going to run a series of double blind experiments to prove it all works - not for me, for the swathes of skeptics out there. I'll post up links to my results.
adios
Rob

1. Are you male of female?
Male

2. What race do you associate yourself with, if any?
Errr, don't really think about it. White, arian, British...?

3. What is your favorite color?
BLUE!!! Deep green is quite nice too

4. Favorite type of music (and group if you have a specific favorite)?
All good stuff (ie no poppy radio trash) - specically punk (Muzza get Me First and the Gimme Gimmes - Leaving on a Jet Plane = great!!).

5. Favorite kind of films (ie. drama, action, documentary)? Do you have a specific favorite?
Light comedy, action, fantasy. Err Happy Gilmore is genius!! As is Matrix, LOTR...

6. Do you read often, sometimes or never?
Varies a lot. Always some, sometimes loads

7. If you enjoy reading, what kind of books do you like?
metaphyics, mysticism, stuff that makes me think...oh, and Terry Prattchett

8. Do you like television? Do you watch often?
No, never really. But then I don't have a tv..

9. How do you feel about the media?
A device controlled by the establishment eg to keep the people from the truth, a bit like a giant freak show. I hate it.

10. Do you consider youself open minded?
Hell yeah, too much so.

11. Are you an extrovert or an introvert? Neither?
Introvert but getting more balanced with time.

12. How do you feel about capitalism?
Not sure. Nice idea. Unfortunately as it is it only means the rich get richer, and the poor stay that way. But then thats more of a problem with society. Until people wake up humanity will never be able to change itself.

13. Do you feel racism is a big problem still?
Not sure, depends which segment of society you look at.

14. What is your favorite type of food (general, ie. Italian and/or specific, ie. lasagna)?
Indian, the Thai, then Chinese

15. Do you believe in God (ie. intelligent design of the universe)?
Yes, absolutely

16. Do you believe in evolution?
Not sure really. Still trying to work out how we all got here. Think evolution may have been a factor, but then very little is truly random.

17. Do you enjoy watching sports?
Only of the extreme kind, big tricks and all.

18. How do you feel about homosexuality?
Nothing much, although i do live in Brighton so see some scaaaaaary characters. Most gays I have met seem nice people though.

19. Is society better today then 200 years ago?
I very much doubt it. But cannot say for sure. People never really change but there are so many more negative factors these day.

20. If you had one wish, what would it be?
A £billion would be nice, I could make a real good mark on the world and get so much done (eg sponsoring research on free energy, the Cook Inertial Propultion device, anti-gravity, non-linear physics, etc etc)

Adios!
Rob

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Ghandi

"The man with a new idea is a crank, until the idea succeeds" - Mark twain

"The truth is dangerous and honesty can get you in trouble" - Me!

"Hey thats crazy enough it might just work!!" - from Family Guy,

and damn! dan, that is a LOT of quotes! But I am suprised at you reading Jhonen Vasquez comincs rolf I wouldn't have guessed or thought you would go near them! JTHM bought just the other day, sick sick sick and wrong!!! But amusing, in a very skillfully sick and twisted way....

peace
Rob

other random thoughts and nice sounding ideas hehe:

How do you define yourself in reality? Dont!!! You will only become limited by that definition!

Let your mind journey into the void and see what it cannot....

An opportunity is always a test or else it is a gift.

Those who are rejected or left out of society often have a distinct advantage

.....and I'm spent!!!!!

Hi Pierre!

how do you know if you still have a neg...hmm, possibly a tricky question. Now I don't have that much experience in this area, not nearly as much as nita or RB, but know a little. Anyone who dissagrees with anything I sawfeel free to correct me...

First off most negs dont seem to want to leave a person quietly, they tend to put up a bit of a fight. Hence if it just went quiet that could mean that it is just sitting around brooding still attached, of that it never attached in the first place. IMO overshadowing really isn't a very subtle thing psychologically, but I guess it can come in different degrees. Eg I have a friend with an attached neg who has an "evil" side to herself. She used to talk to herself anyway (she is a funny one, and enjoys confusing people who hear her!!) but sometimes these days (mostly when drunk) she turns really nasty. She had a 40 minute converstaion between the good and bad sides of herself in a club the other day, worrying. Overshadowing can dramatically alter someones mood, eg makes them angry, massively introverted and depressed, paranoid etc (exploits pre-existing weaknesses, but also uses it to create disharmony in the people around you, like that same girls sister acts like a real grump, always attacking her, probably the same entity controlling both of them, playing each of their weak spots off against eachother).

Another giveaway is if you can identify any strange negative impulses within you.  I think this is different from overshadowing, and is generally linked to core images. For instanct, I have identified the precise impulse "my" neg is using to get at me, so when I think about a painful memory I get flooded by this imploding wave of anxiety, lack of self worth and general embaressment. It is very quick and sudden, lasting only a second, and completely not like how I think usually. As it comes on so quick it is difficult to spot and stop in time.

Now, I am guessing you haven't noticed either of these things? Don't get paranoid at this stage either, a small impulse to carry out a mildly evil act could just come from your own mind.
Could you say a little more about the amount of attacks you have experienced? Was it just one or two, or an every night for a while thing? Myself it took a week at the age of 5. For an adult it will probably take longer for a neg to attach itself.

As for the tats, lol did you get them done or did they just appear?!

Another point, using a pendulum solely to contact your subconscious mind is as safe as asking yourself a question, as that is essentially what you are doing, however if you have used it to contact outside unverified sources then it is now "dirtied" so to speak for you. Which is a shame as pendulum divination would give you an instant answer to this. You could try again, with yourself "made safe" (ie wearingsacred symbols, after performing the lesser banishing ritual of the pentegram, in a cleased room etc) - if you get a no, well thats an answer, but if you get a yes it has left you who is to say that is the truth?
Also recreational drugs, well I think  I should point out shamans have been using these things for aeons...unless abused (ie done a lot) they shouldn't hurt you.

The atmosphere a neg generates, especially a strong one, is distinct and very nasty. I cannot say anything really about the whole body itchyness, strange voice, or the feeling that it is entering you as I am not you. But I would say that if it is trying to possess or overshadow you, you should be able to notice it. Try marking all the marks you have, and all the moles on your body. If you feel any of the given feelings, you'll know it is still there. Hhhm there's an idea, cover yourself in holy symbols, draw over all your warts, moles, skin blemishes, tats etc. Then see if anything happens! For instance, when I first did the full symbols thing (pengegram on forehead, cross on heart, etc) my dad came out with rashes all over his arms and legs the next morning. Also when drawing over a mole on my hand, after a few days and then weeks I started feeling sick, getting stomache pains, threw up once or twice....you get the idea.

And if you are worried, it certainly won't help to put up all the passive countermeasures in PPSD, and then some. They will also help clear and purify the general energies around you, which is a good thing, neg or no neg.

Oh - and pray. Ask God for an answer, pick up a dictionary or whatever book you feel moved towards (eg bible), open it up on a random page, drop your finger down randomly or just read the first thing you see. You might be suprise. I have had some of the most wonderful answers.....http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Can't think of anything else right now, let us know how you get along!

...and mate, there really is no need to qualify yourself!
Runlola - I don't know you, so I'm not going to tell you who you are, but I would politely request you be a little more civil in the future...the forums should be a friendly place where people can be open with eachother and not worry about getting harsh replies...

Hope this helps!
best of luck
Rob from sunny (yeah I wish!) Brighton

I am strongly doubting that this is the ghost of your grandfather:
- It has been 5 years, his soul has almost certainly moved on.
- Ghosts are the etheric remnants of a person, they have no consciousness and just walk around carrying out repetetive actions until their energies dissipate
- Even if it was your grandfather (soul and all), he probably wouldn't have enough skill (or motive?) to attack like this. What you have there is a classical neg-entity attack, shadow people style.
I mean, what was he like in life? Did he believe in an afterlife? Was he a nice guy? Do the nasty feelings in your house remind you of him at all??? Do you really thing he would he take delight in tormenting and paralysing your friend??!!?
btw if you believe it is your grandad but isn't the neg might pick up on this and pretend to be. Like czm33x (??name??) said, don't assume anything.
If you are practising hermetics excellent! You have something to practise against.
There are loads of other countermeasure though. Suggest you buy PPSD if you haven't already or at the very least read the basic psychic countermeasures article on the main site.
A tempory solution is to draw sacred symbols all over you body (this is in PPSD too. Not all the symobls are necessary but the total will provide you with absolute protection from attack):
pentegram on forehead, cross over heart, YHVH (preferably the hebrew) on solar plexus, equal armed cross over the stomach and bottom of both feet, same with a circle around on the top of the feet. Also "Jesus" written on left hand and "Christ" on right. The feet are the most important point though, perhaps along with your most "attack prone" chakra (eg for me it is solar plexus, the place where the greatest psychological weaknesses lie, but this only really applies IMO if it is already attached)
This is the most powerful protection possibile, but a bit difficult for everyday life (people tend to stare at your forehead a bit lol! and sometimes the ink won't wash off easily rofl!!)
um
hope this helps
Rob

Randi's challenge hmmm. That guys knows for certain these things do exist, he is just someone dragged out every so often to try and disprove them (=whore). He has been around Uri Geller when he was doing things the "amazing" randi would find quite impossible. His challenge - yes, they make the rules, have exclusive access to all the records of it, footage etc etc it goes on and on. It is also more than likely he has set up barriers and shields to prevent people from being able to use their abilities, and gain the prize. Basically it is near impossible to succeed!
Btw there is also an opposing challenge to all the skeptics to disprove the evidence they have that psychic etc stuff is real. nobody has claimed that money yet either.
Rob

Goku!
Likewise I haven't been around here much of late but posts about drugs always seem to catch my eye http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>
Apart from long term use, drugs probably won't do you any harm. Long term (ab)use and spiritual development, these are not compatible, but you are spot on with the "map" thing - once you experience a certain state of being/mind/etc on drugs (or whenever) it does make it easier to find it again when sobered.
As for being more susceptible when high, this does make sense, though I have never noticed it directly. I might have just been looking in the wrong direction (ie direct style attack rather than heavy influence).
Some people experience sudden devastating psychological changes with drugs, but only generally the harder stuff like acid and those people are always unstable to begin with, and very rare. People can also die crossing the road....
Experiment and learn I say, I really love drugs sometimes. IMO stuff like shrooms is heaven-sent, FOR us to play and experiment with. Ketamine is also veeeery intereesting, fun too. I also have a bag of *6 salvia waiting at home but haven't felt moved to really try it yet, had one bong hit and it did sweet FA. Make sure if you try it you get something stronger than normal ie *1, I have spent ages trying to get effects from that stuff in the past and noticed very little. But this differs from person to person. I have actually only been mildly "high" (not appropriate term here) on salvia once, and it was ummmm........not particularly great, but need to do more experimenting. It opens up portions of your mind that you don't regularly see.

love
Farmer Rob http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0>

hey Reikimaster, when you get the Q-link device could you let us know what you think of it? Does it have any notably positive effects etc.
There is another area I am looking into at the moment - orgone generators (orgone = energy from the fringe scientists/Reich followers camp). Called the Holy Hand Grenade (HHG) these are things which are very simple to make but are supposed to convert negative into positive energy, very powerful by all accounts. Some people have used them to break neg attacks and remove already attached ones, since they act to drain them of all their negative energy and create a positive environment which they don't enjoy hanging around. Interesting stuff. For more info there is a forum at:
http://forums.cloud-busters.com
and how to make them, amongst other things:
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html
One of those other things being a cloudbuster, which acts to balance the weather conditions within a large radius (currently being blatently manipulated with direct engineering and chemtrails, both of which I see evidence for almost on a daily basis). So this thing break up chemtrails, and basically helps the weather be as it should, increasing the "communication between ground and sky" or so I am told. I am going to make all this stuff over the weekend, hopefully, so will report on them afterwards if I find anything interesting. Hopefully i will. By the sound of it people are having some amazing experiences with these things - very powerful by all accounts.

Dan - you should be able to find the download section right? It is possivbly just that the pages are very slow to load. Download speed is maxing at 0.2k/s!! However, I'll leave them overnight on my computer, when they finish I'll upload them onto quicker servers with my providers, or maybe try and use my own computer with adsl as a server http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_cool.gif" border=0>
So, you should be able to get to them in the nearish future. I'll keep you informed. Do you have iMesh? That would make things easier.
love
Rob

Great! Where can I get them from??? No link provided!

(Non-sciency people IR = infra red)

Its odd, but this isn't the first time significant data and photos have been "leaked" from NASA - I was reading UFO magazine about a year ago and there were more NASA photos there from Mars showing real tube-like structures in good detail (tucked into the cracks of the land, like walkways), as well as what appeared to be some sort of vegatation (amounts and colours varying with seasonal changes). So, while ther are a lot of evil f***s at NASA, it seems that there is eithert a lone agent working to get the truth out, or NASA realises they can't sit on this forever and so some sort of unofficial leak policy is being used (ie let the info out then go "oooh whats that! Nothing to do with me....lies!!!"). But then this case is pretty convoluted so who knows. I am sure the images are real though.
I was reading some conspiracy theory thing, really extreme out there, with someone who was supposedly working with the secret government people a while back, with all their high technology. Anyway they were supposed to have some sort of worm-hole teleportation device, and went to Mars to check out an underground city....found the power still running and lots of interesting artifacts...completely complimentary and same as all this new info. What I would give to be able to go there, one day maybe....
Anyway certainly makes you think. Scares some but I love it!

lol!
I find drinking fruit juice before going to bed better than water but NOT pleasant if you end up throwing it up.....yukky acidic. But it has lots of useful nutrients and stuff in it, maybe mix with water. Or milk, down a few pint of that before sleep, always works wonders. Paracetamol (sp?) is my personal favourite over aspirin, but each to their own.
mmmm beer...

1. Yes, twice
2. I wasn't on my own
3. No
4. Well probably not "ghost" but a few other materialisaions
5. Yes, many many
6. Yes, strongly supported by 5.
7. Yes, read most of that book, it figures and limited contact with my Nan.

BLM - Hey! I like you, do you care about that? lololol!!

OK I eat my words and apologise if I seemed arrogant. Them sites had some fine arguments on them, time to rethink.