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#701
terrance, I find your posting here very interesting. This is the way to learn.By facing the negative or dark side of things, progress can be made of learning more. For the good I believe.
Do you have any insight in this experience?
I like your insect story on another thread. Thanks for your input on these things. I think their important matters.   http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

#702
Welcome to Metaphysics! / internal vision
December 16, 2002, 08:02:34
noctor5, not much I'm aware but I've had a few visual wanderings I thought may have been traveling through an internal physical body.  I wasn't sure.
[:]

#703
I'm just now catching on to other possible names of the same thing, such as oneness and self.
Spiritual in itself is a matter of definition I suspect. For me it's a combination of mind, body, and spirit.
For instance, living it (physical by action), thinking it (mindfullness of intention), and the spirit or soul aspect and the discovery of it. And the added joy of the combined potential of it all.
Then there's the added feature of other spirits being involved. I'm not sure how this part comes into play. It could very well play a part not known to me at this time. The spirit or spirits I believe want me to discover my own potential for the time being. I use to be quite dependent on spirit intervention for help(I use to pray alot and felt helpless in situations). I had a dream a few years ago in  which my spirit guide (or guardian angel) flew from my bedroom to the outside through the window.He said he would be on the other side of the window. It was as if to say "your on your own". It was difficult at first but I've really learned alot being on my own more.The guardian angel has confirmed his continued presence on the other side of the window several times since that first dream.

#704
Interesting point Do. My tendency is toward location. I hadn't even thought about the alternative(other than the original goal of the project). In my daily life I find I get a sense of places in my past sometimes, like a building I was in years before. I'm not aware of such a connection with people in this same way. A couple of my family members say that they can sense (by smell) the individual smell of people (other family members anyway). I have never experienced this.

#705
That's interesting Alivie. I've had that happen  a couple of times. It can sure get one's attention! Sometimes I wonder if that's what it's about? That's a good example of synchronicity! Like a wake-up call perhaps? I bet the message of the song has a message too.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Kenneth,
Everything is right with the world when your in control of yours. This a goal I have always had and the pay off is great.
The interaction with other people can be quite a challenge, but as long as you stay strong in who you are, you come out ok. The different kinds of people can test you on this point. They will throw their own self doubts on you like your suppose to absorb their negative issues. I don't accept such things. I let them know right off about any negative stuff they want to hurl at me. In this way I guess, I too take a hold of feelings of anger instantly. And so true, the anger is there but gone again just as quickly (maybe not for the other person with the problem, hehe) but that's ok too since they are free to make their choice to be unhappy. Yes indeed, dealing with those things when they come up is important. I wish I was stronger in this area because I lack the right approach with people sometime. Some people confuse the heck out of me sometimes. I can usually tell the ones that are on a path or journey like me. The ones that are not, I just avoid the best I can. I'm going to get the book "PSD" for the very reason of vulnerability.

I like what you said about dealing with anger and the complexity of it with the layers. What you said is so true.  I like the saying "Live, and let live".  Most people practice this but some don't. The ones that don't seem to be the ones we have to deal with. Many  good hearted people let the bad aspects build up for so long it does get layered like an onion.  

I think the flow and the being in touch with yourself is a good description of what synchrony is about. Thanks for your insight on this. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

#706
Hi Terrance,
Syncrony to me is a certain feeling. It's a feeling of being connected with your spirit self and physical in just the right way or combination. I guess it can be called bliss, contentment, sense of peacefullness, high on life, in a good mood, etc. There's also a mental charge that goes with it.It's like your environment is surrounded with messages coming at you right and left. You get new revelations and yet at the same time your getting confirmation of choices you have made (and maybe answers to questions). A sense of immortality really.
There was a thread at the forum here about this subject. Write in the word your looking for in the seach box and you'll find it probably.
I'll see if the internet has anything on the subject. When I hear it talked about it seems it's described as a fleeting or momentary sort of thing. For me I can spend hours and days in the state of synchrony. Once it even felt like I had died and gone to heaven. Once it felt as if I am living my dream (literally my dream came true sort of feel). These times are totally free of any present physical conditions or situations. The total opposite of this doesn't happen to me very often.This feel would be feeling ill at ease or not feeling good in my skin. So, in other words this great sense of being I stay in most the time is not a temporary or "conditional" thing, it seems to be a way of life that I have been blessed with by the grace of God (my way of thinkin).

Often I hear synchrony "confirms I'm on the right path".

This is an interesting subject alright. I'm not sure how you relate to this about your quest (I think you picked the right word). Could be your questing is your time in synchronicity.

I'll look around the net for info on synchrony. There's probably  many ways to describe it.

From my own point of view on this subject is this. Balance is important. It's a way of living that doesn't take you out of your routine. Your decisions remain sensible and grounded.Your thinking is rational and stable. You don't appear to others in a manic or out of control state. I'm saying this because the way I describe it can be taken as a bi-polar state as in the condition of manic-depression. I don't want to confuse the subtle way of synchrony to the possible remorse and negative effects of moods out of control. Synchrony is not a mood shift but a natural feel good attitude of life. It's almost a reward-like thing for all your earnest intentions. Hard to put in words but this is my best shot at it.

Sorry I haven't come across a good picture of an aura yet.
The pictures I find on the net isn't exactly what I'm looking for. It seems to me the aura in the "mystic" state has an animated look about it. This too is hard to describe. It can range from a bunch of little stars or sparkles to the appearance of white sand in a cluster in mid air. The sand can be flowing from above and in other various ways

Hope your finding the right job, good hunting. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

#707
Synapse, I agree with you, as long as it takes. Just before falling asleep a couple days ago I thought *Stonehenge*, I had a quick white flash of it. That tells me it is registered in my (higher?) consciousness. This has been a good experience for me.

Lysear, thank you for thinking of this and suggesting it on in this forum.

Romero, I've been visiting and learning about the Eight Temple meditation project. It's been quite the eye opener for me. It's brought to me the sense of order of thought (not sure if that the right way to say it). I'm sticking with the learning process there. I've never been one to understand or perform meditation practice. This site is easy to learn and follow. Your friend Rawn must be a genius! In the recent past I've looked over a little bit about the subject of the Qabbalistic Tree of Life (a varied form in another book), I felt it connected with The Truth. The web site, A Bardon Companion ,as well as here at Astral Pulse of course has been just what I needed to connect how I think, and then to be able to connect to other established thinking patterns. It's hard to explain really.
I looking forward to getting into the meditation part of the astral temple.  Just thought I would follow up with you on this.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

#708
Thanks again Romero, I'll look for that on the web site. Hopefully I will do
just fine. It's nice of you to offer assistance if need be.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

#709
I'm not at all familiar with this technique. What little I know is I think this place  studies the differences between regular dreams and lucid dreams.
Have you tried this link?  http://www.lucidity.com/



#710
Romero Cunha, Thank you so much for your contribution to this endeavor.
The site you gave is excellent. I've been there three or four times already, and I plan to learn all I can there. I'm even more interested in this subject now that I have read the details involved.  
Your offer of an astral temple is so kind. How does one go about finding it?
I assume this is an Astral Locus which has already been established. I'm already learning that an established one would surely be easier for a beginner than having to create one. Is my thinking along the right lines?
I'm going to also start developing my astral locale. I'm still not clear how or what to do there yet, but I plan to cover the material more at the link you gave.
I want to further my personal journey on this subject matter. Thank you for opening a new door for me.

About stonehenge, depending what the others want about the alternative location, I guess would be up to the group. The feather focus mentioned in the Beneath the Astral Moon might be a good addition if all chooses to carry on with the Stonehenge meeting.

Is it possible to seek the astral temple and Stonehenge at the same time (not simutaneously)? Or is it best to focus on one project at a time?

#711
I'm not discouraged the least bit. I'm continuing my trip. I don't think any of the factors mentioned should necessarily matter. I've already accomplished something here I hadn't been able to do before (going somewhere I wanted).
I'm very enthused. I looked up about wolves (since I saw one at the destination). I already knew animals mean "instinctual". The wolfe was howling at the site. This book said wolves howl for several reasons, one being to gather it's pack together. This is a good sign for me. Symbolically this could be a heralding of the gathering we're going for.

I think anything is possible!  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Another point about this. Since everyone is so far from each other it would be a reasonable intent to meet through the astral. The meeting would seem less likely to happen (for comparison sake only) if you can just walk or drive, or just turn to talk to them for that matter. The natural order of things and all in the physical and/or in the astral (may even find out more on this alone).  Just my own point of view.

#712
manueuh
This is my first time ever appoaching this subject. Your words are open and honest. By saying your overwhelmed by evil, are you sensitive to it or overcome by it?

I would venture to guess your sensitive to evil and possibly reacting to it . I'm not an expert on this but feel stuck on your post. You seem hurt by this, or am I wrong?

This person you talk about? This is just a guess but is she connected to another or a group? Maybe these feelings are connected someway there and not totally at her. Is this possible? One of the things that has always baffled me is the chemistry that changes when an individual connects to another person or persons. This is confusing and can easily be misdirected.

I plan to get this book too. There is so much to learn on this subject. Thanks for your openess on this. This has given me much to think about.

No matter what, the best action is always to do no harm.

My thoughts are with you in your struggle. The best will find you.
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#713
I'm praying.

#714
Congrats Jeff.
To tell or not to tell?  That's a tough one. When in doubt........
wait. Just my thought.  You'll know when and if the time is right don't ya think?

#715
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Indigo Children
December 03, 2002, 00:21:41
Wow, good observation Lysear. I hadn't thought of that. Your right.

#716
I'm still hoping to run across a good visual of the aura. I may have to discribe the auras I'm familiar with. A picture is often better than words.

#717
I tried again to visualize Stonehenge. Again I got the white circle.This time the white circle is a huge moon above the site. I'm located way down at the ground level (almost as if I was part of the ground). The stones there were seen from this point of view. The stones were so tall and as if reaching toward the big moon. Then my point of view changed to being an onlooker.I can see Stonehenge under the large bright white moon. There's a howling wolf sitting in the middle of this site.
Is Stonehenge in a country setting? Is there alot of wild life there? http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

#718
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Indigo Children
December 01, 2002, 09:50:31
Auraseer, yes, I've been hearing about indigo children for some time. I think there is something to this. The younger generation does seem to be a more discerning group. They seem more verbal an aggressive to me. Hope this is a good thing for the future. Maybe the future generation will require these  features, a "tougher" & smarter bunch for a reason.

#719
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / miracle chant
December 01, 2002, 09:31:54
That's really interesting. I like that chant too. Thanks

#720
Thanks for the link, some nice pictures.

#721
Terrence, I would like to say There are some obe experts here and I hope some would jump in if this person knows more. My obe knowledge and experience is quite limited.

I am more into the intuitive aspect of it all. Kind of like making practical use of things I learn in daily life. So far I find I'm the same person as I was before but it just seems I know a little bit more of the mechanics of it all. The more you learn the more you see there is more to learn. For me it's been a gradual learning of all the different aspects of different things. Like take your experience about bringing stuff back with you (some not so good as well). Just this alone can have a wide range of meanings.The answer will end up being answered by you. Hearing others' experiences is good because you are learning just by relating to the same things. I think this is why I'm so fascinated with all this. I just wanted to say this so you can know where I come from on this.

The fact you have such a good accuracy rate tells me you have a definite ability and a gift.

I'm not understanding the added things about disproving and the skeptisim part you speak about.

The 100 percent accuracy on things that come to you is a good sign.

The shadow on the cliff wall was to my right of the bridge.The crash happened on the left of the bridge.  The oncoming car(in the left lane) obstructed my view a lot (and it's a narrow bridge and you better watch where your going http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>   ),the train would have been long enough to have been seen on the tracks to the right as well. I may have been a minute or so early, but even if the accident hadn't occured when I was on the bridge, was the shadow on the wall an intuitive sign? This is what I ask myself.

By the use of the word trigger I mean that you are doing something in your waking time that causes something in your unconscious to come to your conscious. I think that's when the unconscious becomes a part of your waking life.For instance, I had an experience after getting off an elevator once. By retracing my steps where or what I was doing just before that and looking at that period of time in a "dream-like" fashion, I am able to unravel why I walked out of the elevator onto a very odd situation (not consistent with waking reality). I hope this makes more sense. This concept is somewhat difficult to put in words. And there is so much to say on this subject in such limited space.
Symbols are the name given for objects seen in a dream or vision. Like a house or building often is a symbol of your body in dreams. This is my particular interest, symbols.
You haven't spoken specifically about "symbols" (that which I try to pick up on), so I may have added confusion to the subject.The elevator is a symbol in the dream state. Am I making better sense here?
What you may have seen though may involve aura or auras. Auras are the invisible energy that all things have.Living creatures as well as inanimate objects. I'll look up a web site about this and post it here. I was really surprised that your not familiar with auras and having all these great experiences. When you mention the white form this is the first thing I thought of was an aura. The fact that you are perceiving someone's aura is getting deeper into the subject matter.
About your last question of my progress and control on blending the unconscious and the conscious.I'm just learning it. I'm learning more about it by understanding dream symbology and I guess something that may be called cause an effect (my own ). There is general use of the term cause and effect out there but I have never read about it. I prefer my own cause an effect ideas right now.The result of it all is synchronicity. My own experience with synchronicity is grand. That's when I know I'm on the right track of something. This subject alone is vast. The state of synchrony is very empowering, but hard to explain or put into words.

Oh, I'm also into omens and signs, a related topic to symbols. Omens, signs, oracles, etc. are names given to waking time experiences, as symbols are associated with sleeping time symbols.  

I hope this has been some help to you. I'll look for a good aura web site. The white form could be something else, I don't know what else it could be though.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>


#722
Next day

Before going to sleep I tried visualizing Stonehenge. This image came into my mind. A round white circle, on this white circle are animal and/or human figures (blurry).On the upper part of the circle is a bear (bigger in proportion to the rest of the figures). The center of the circle is what looks like an igloo with a door (blurry door).


#723
Perceptions
I was tired last night when I read your post.I did get the gist of what you were saying. I read your post again this morning. Last night the figures you spoke about while on the elevator were shadow figures, even the ones in the lobby when I read about them(that's all I could see last night). Today I see what your saying more clearly. You were using intuitive skills to see the three figures. I believe the whole thing happened because of "triggers". The trigger(s) may have been the fact you were going down in a lift elevator (paradox). The oddity of the person on the left in the lobby I can't figure because of lack of details given. The lobby itself is symbolic but I can't catch on or get a feel for why.
I thinking your blending conscious and unconscious things in your waking life. This is exactly what I'm exploring.

The white that you sensed with the person behind the van is also intuitive. This is why I gave the train experience as a similar experience (tho it was shadow, not white). The white mass you saw sounds like an aura. Are you familiar with auras?

#724
I think your unconscious is sending a message. The orb and the butterfly (msn?) are connected. Keep your eyes open for clues, interesting. Butterfly is a symbol of change or transformation.

#725
So far I haven't seen anything (remembered). I came so close to remembering a dream while in deep sleep twice (progress). I'm gonna keep  going for Stonehenge.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>