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#701
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 03, 2004, 18:55:42
Dear Everyone
Just for the record.....I am a big boy [;)]Most likely twice the age of most of you and I am not afraid. I am well able to manage my own spiritual walk. In the future I would prefer no more comments like "be careful" "watch out" "the last channeling was spooky" , it sounds more like you are the ones with the fear etc. Are you trying to make me afraid and spread this? It sounds like it. Dont even bother answering this just ask yourself or better yet talk to God ......if you are not too afraid to[:P].

Regards Unafraid Mustardseed

#702
quote:
Originally posted by shaman

In the meanwhile people still post messages with questions to God for Mustardseed... they haven't noticed yet that channeling God was a joke...Eventhough Mustardseed you have openly admitted that, they haven't pay attention. Well, Mustardseed, I hope you won't stop posting, because they still need you to answer their questions to God. Keep up the good job, MS, it seems they really like it and they need you!



Dear Shaman
I am almost sorry to have to write this but it seems evident trhat it is YOU who do not get it.

I find your post above very wierd and strangely devisive and clouded. If you have something to say say it. If you wonder if I have something to say ask me.

IT WAS A JOKE,thats all . Just becourse I told what I thought was a pretty funny joke(can be discussed[;)]) dosn't mean that everything else I say is a joke as well.

So Shaman what do you think. Do YOU get it my friend????

Regards Mustardseed

PS glad you like the thread. Maybe I should ask God about humour, that might be interesting[:)]
#703
Welcome to Metaphysics! / The Return Of Jesus?
March 03, 2004, 10:50:04
Hi Douglas
As usual I will have to read your reply again some times but just let me get this off as an initial response.

I do not have a problem with The Trinity, or original sin. Nor do I have any doubt that the scriptures may not hold in themselves all truth. Jesus was quoted to say : I have yet many things to say to you. In my book he is a living real person. What I do have a problem with is this.

RB stated some time ago that Archaelogic evidence to support the Bible is inherently flawed if it is funded and done by believing Christians. It would stand to reason that they would be inclined to conclude issues to the confirmation of what they believe. If this is a right way to see things (I AM NOT SURE IT IS) then the Jesus semionar is also flawed for the exact same reasons.

The kernel of the matter is that most of us seem to build our Faith belief or whatever we call it on what we conclude from the pile of incompleate evidence available to us. However we tend to be reluctant in granting other people the right to do the same.

If we are compleately honest Douglas, in reality , WE DONT KNOW do we? With this in mind I believe it would be wrong to use statements like "he hoped to" or "he believed" becourse we do not know their thoughth.

I also want to remind you or maybe I did not make it clear, that the article I included was meant to show that the Jesus Seminar in not an uncontested group of believers and nonbelievers who is unbiasedly trying to find the truth. Allthough they claim to be just this they have gotten under considerable critque as being biased.

Last of all , if you state that it would be "the biggest coincidence" in the world all I can say is.......well it aint impossible then. It is a pretty important issue and if there is a God I would not be surprices if he used what seems like the biggest coincidence ever to help people make desisions ....by faith. Maybe I should ask Him[;)].

Regards Mustardseed

#704
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 02, 2004, 20:39:19
Channeling God
you know God....people got sort of spooked that you started to tell me something that made me uneasy....why is that
its human nature
could you explain more
mostly people look for easy answers, things that "feel" right
isn't that good.....makes sense that things should feel right
and why is that so my friend?
well I dont know, just that its more....comfortable that way
maybe Mustardseed.....but the TRUTH is not always comfortable sometimes it is hard to take and requires an effort on your part. An effort in believing as well as learning to live with the realities of life. Not just the things that feel right. Life is not a buffet. You are here to learn to take the good with the bad and learn from the hard things in life, as well as enjoy the good, and how you take those hard sayings and tough things is what makes you what you should be. Listen you really gotta go they will come soon
ok see you then bye

I am expecting visitors!!Sorry for the shortness

Regards Mustardseed

#705
Ok then, I confess..............you are a much bigger joker than I am, dang......I loved that title, but against this YOU.....nobody stands a chance [;)]

Oh ok then let me give it another shot.........


Ladies and Gentlemen Contending for the title

BEST AP JOKER

Chat on the astral Pulse:

Shaman: Hey Mayatnik....I am the best channeler around....nanananana

Mayatnik: No....I am the best channeler here move over buddy

Shaman: what ever makes you believe that....I am way ahead of you

Mayatnik: Well....the Zetas told me

Shaman: Ha well....Mustardseed says that GOD told him I am better than you!

rhinegirl: I never told Mustardseed to say any such thing
#706
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 01, 2004, 23:48:57
Channeling God

God ....are you still up??
trying out your latest standup rutine Mustardseed? [;)]
MacArthur says Hi....he says he knows you!
yea I saw that.......tell him hi back....I do know him
ok will do......goodnight
goodnight.....by the way I am not bad for you..... I love you .....judge me by what I cause you to do say and feel.....for by the fruits you will know a tree, a good tree brings good fruit and a bad tree bad fruit, by my fruits you shall know me....goodnight, and oh by the way tell Jess not to worry
#707
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Anonymous
March 01, 2004, 23:30:55
Dear Jessica
Be a nice little rhinegirl....ok[:)]
#708
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 01, 2004, 23:17:39
Hi all
The next channeling will be about the difference between male and female. Please feel free to require subjects yourself.

I realise there is a lot of negative comments on the thread, but have decided , from being counselled by a good friend [:)], to just keep going. The negative comments are appreciated and I read them, but I have to stay true to what I believe and will not engage in a negativly empowered exchange of ideas and words.

This is not to say that I do not regards critisism, I do, but I have decided not to answer "a fool according to his/her folly" , some of you might know what this means, some will not. In other words I will attempt to take a stand for positivness, faith, belief, possibilities and choose to continue to believe God loves us all,...... YOU,.....ME..... everybody..... and that he is trying his best to help us all, even though we seem pretty determined to try our best to selfdestruct.

Regards Mustardseed
#709
Welcome to Dreams! / Overwhelming fear...
March 01, 2004, 22:47:33
quote:

I'm wondering how I can get past this idea that something is attacking me as soon as I become lucid??



I read your post with interest. While I believe that fear is to be combatted, I do not believe that the presense of fear is an indication of being misguided. I have on many occations had fears that seemed unjustifiable at the time, based on previous notions that all fear is fictional, only later to discover that they were very real and that a threat was present. I would urge you to take your GUT FEELING, instinct or whatever you choose to call it serious and consider counter meassures.

I realise that our beliefsystems are different . In any case be on guardnot in a fearful but vigilant manner and if your feelings continue, wait........take your time, and make sure that the steps you take are safe. Remember you are scaling a mountain......nothing is lost by taking your time to make sure you are safe.

Regards Mustardseed
#710
Welcome to Metaphysics! / The Return Of Jesus?
March 01, 2004, 21:44:28
Hi Douglas
I would like to ask you to read the enclosed article. I find it absolutely astonishing that you keep on talking as you do above, postulating and assuming, without honestly admitting that The Jesus seminar as well as yourself base your belief on ....faith. Be fair that is all I ask....Thankyou!

The Jesus Seminar, Part 2
by Wayne Jackson
Christian Courier: Archives
Wednesday, July 5, 2000

A response to The Jesus Seminar, as featured by the Peter Jennings ABC special, In Search of Jesus.
As noted in our previous installment The Jesus Seminar, Part 1, The Jesus Seminar (so-called) has proposed a restructuring of Christian history – principally in three areas.

First, this panel of liberal theologians has presented to contemporary society a new Jesus, whom they claim is the real Jesus. Their "Jesus" is not the virgin-born, raised-from-the-dead Son of God whom Christians serve; rather, this new Jesus was simply a first-century revolutionary preacher who significantly impacted his culture.

Second, this conclave of radicals has declared that 82% of Christ's "sayings" were inventions of the early church, which Jesus actually never uttered.

Finally, this body of skeptical "scholars" intends to redefine the canonical books of the New Testament record. The first two allegations were addressed in our previous discussion. Attention is now directed to the matter of the New Testament canon.

The Jesus Seminar has begun a dramatic alteration of the documents which compose the New Testament. In an incredibly arrogant assertion, Robert Funk, head of the Seminar's Westar Institute in Sonoma, California, charges that the Christian movement "hasn't seriously examined the question of canon since the 15th century" (Sheler, Nov. 8, p. 75). And so, ignoring 1,900 years of Christian history, and pretending that conservative scholarship does not even exist, these modernists will bequeath to society a revised New Testament.

The word "canon" derives from the Greek word kanon, which originally was a measuring reed. The term then was used to signify any sort of "rule" (cf. Gal. 6:16). Eventually, it was applied to that "standard" a document would be expected to meet in order to be considered inspired of God, and thus authoritative. And so, ultimately, it came to denote that collection of writings venerated as Holy Scripture, in contrast to a variety of apocryphal or spurious works. Origen (c. 185-253) spoke of the "canonized Scriptures."

It is sometimes asserted by uninformed people that the Catholic Church, near the end of the 4th century A.D., decided which books would constitute the New Testament. Nothing could be further from the truth. There was a recognition of the inspiration of the New Testament books as they were being produced in the first-century.

For example, Paul quoted from Luke's Gospel and acknowledged it as "scripture" (1 Tim. 5:18); similarly, Peter recognized Paul's writings as "scripture" (2 Pet. 3:15-16), even though he and his fellow-apostle had clashed over the matter of Gentile fellowship (cf. Gal. 2:11).

While it is true that in the post-apostolic age there were some disputes over the genuineness of certain New Testament documents, the pristine character of the books, undergirded by solid evidence, finally led to their universal acceptance. And so, as Thiessen notes,


"it is a remarkable fact that no early Church Council selected the books that should constitute the New Testament Canon. The books that we now have crushed out all rivals, not by any adventitious authority, but by their own weight and worth" (p. 25).
But what are the criteria by which the inspiration of a book is determined. In brief, these areas are involved:


Primary Evidence
The primary factor in identifying the nature of a divine book is the information that is contained within the book itself. Here are some of the elements which may, in part or in whole, be involved.

Does the book claim, or disclaim, inspiration (cf. 1 Cor. 14:37)? Some of the apocryphal books actually disclaim inspiration (cf. the Prologue of Ecclesiasticus; see also Price, p. 42).

Did the original recipients acknowledge that it came from an inspired person (cf. 1 Thes. 2:13)? Does it speak authoritatively (2 Thes. 3:6)? Is it characterized by an exalted theme? Is it honest in its dealings with both its friends and foes? Is it factually accurate in terms of history, geography, science, etc.? Does it reflect a lofty sense of morality? Is it internally consistent? Does it harmonize with other inspired writings?


Secondary Evidence
By secondary evidence we mean evidence which corroborates the principles outlined above. This sort of evidence is not conclusive in and of itself, but it lends its support to the primary material.

For example: Biblical revelation is designed to transform lives (Rom. 12:1-2); does the narrative possess that kind of power? After it has been tested, debated, etc., has it won the approval of honest and reasonable people? Has it survived the test of opposition?

It has been said that "Homer must be handled with care." The biblical documents glow all the brighter the more they are attacked, and the more vicious the persecution becomes (as in the present case of the Jesus Seminar assault).

As observed earlier, the Jesus Seminar wants to overturn almost 2,000 years of history and revise the catalog of books contained in the New Testament. Let us consider two examples of their work in this area.

It is claimed that the Book of Revelation should be removed from the canon. Does the final book of the Bible pass the test that would be expected of an inspired narrative? Yes, it does. For example:


It was written by John (1:1,4,9; 22:8), and the early church writers (e.g., Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, etc.) identify this John as the Lord's apostle. Additionally, vocabulary studies reveal similar word patterns in the Book of Revelation and John's other writings. For example the term "Word" (logos) is used in a personal sense only in John 1:1,14; 1 John 1:1, and in Revelation 19:13.

The Book of Revelation has a very exalted theme; it proclaims the victory of God's people over their persecutors by means of the Lamb who was slain, and who is now reigning (cf. 5:9-10; 6:12-17; 11:15; 12:11-12).

The document speaks with authority. The author is placed in the category of a prophet (1:3,11; 22:9), and the book is characterized by prophetic injunctions which must be obeyed (1:3; 22:7,10,18-19).

The record is doctrinally consistent with information presented elsewhere in the Bible (e.g., the divine nature of Christ, and the concept of the atoning blood of Jesus).
Too, the fact that Revelation so wonderfully complements the Book of Daniel, which Jesus Christ endorsed as scripture (Mt. 24:15), also argues for its divine inspiration (cf. Dan. 7; Rev. 13).

There is thus no valid reason for the Jesus Seminar to remove the Book of Revelation from the sacred canon. Their biased inclination against the possibility of prophecy is at the base of this reckless action. We must remind ourselves that there is a curse pronounced upon those who tamper with the words of this book (22:18-19).

Not only does the Jesus Seminar propose to "take away" from the words of the Bible by the removal of the Book of Revelation, these renegades intend to "add to" the Word of God by the inclusion of spurious works, such as the so-called Gospel of Thomas, which they have characterized as "a fifth Gospel."

In 1945, an archaeological excavation at Nag Hammadi in Central Egypt yielded a collection of 13 papyrus codices (books) totaling over 1,100 pages. One of these documents contains the Gospel of Thomas in the Coptic language. In this form it dates from c. A.D. 350. However, the original work is apparently much older since three Greek papyri from the Oxyrhynchus collection (c. A.D. 150) contain fragments of the narrative. It is thus believed that the original Gospel of Thomas was compiled c. A.D. 140, probably in Edessa, Syria.

It consists entirely of a collection of 114 "sayings of Jesus," which are supposed to be a secret revelation which the Lord gave to the apostle Thomas. (That "secret" business ought to be a red flag within itself.) Some of these sayings repeat the words of Christ from the canonical Gospel accounts. About 40 of them are entirely new. Most scholars believe that the Gospel of Thomas is highly tainted with the heretical philosophy known as Gnosticism (Cameron, p. 539).

Occasionally, some very absurd language is put into the Lord's mouth. Here is an example:


"Simon Peter said to them: 'Let Mary (Magdalene) go out from among us, because women are not worthy of the Life.'"
"Jesus said: 'See I shall lead her, so that I will make her male, that she too may become a living spirit, resembling you males. For every woman who makes herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.'" (Saying 114, Funk, p. 532; see also Yamauchi, p. 186).

Does that even remotely resemble the dignified status that women are afforded in the New Testament?

R.K. Harrison has well noted that this apocryphal work "cannot in any sense be called a 'fifth gospel'" (Blaiklock & Harrison, p. 450). It is quite apparent that the so-called Gospel of Thomas has no place in the inspired canon, and history has been correct in rejecting it – the Jesus Seminar to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Jesus Seminar is not a reflection of serious and devout scholarship. How can one legitimately be called a "scholar" when every syllable of instruction that he or she issues is erroneous? Is a man a "mechanic" if he doesn't know the first thing about an automobile engine?

This panel represents the meanderings of a group of confused theologians who have lost their faith but who, for reasons known perhaps only to them and God, desire to cling to some remnant of religiosity. Pity their blighted souls.



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For more information regarding The Jesus Seminar, see our previous article, The Jesus Seminar, Part 1.
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SOURCES

Blaiklock, E. M. and Harrison, R.H. (1983), The New International Dictionary of Biblical Archaeology (Grand Rapids: Zondervan).

Cameron, Ron (1992), "Gospel of Thomas," The Anchor Bible Dictionary, David Noel Freedman, Ed. (New York: Doubleday), Vol. 6.

Funk, Robert W., Hoover, Roy W., and The Jesus Seminar (1993), The Five Gospels - What Did Jesus Really Say? (New York: Macmillan).

Price, Ira M. (1989 Reprint), "Apocrypha," Hastings Dictionary of the Bible, James Hastings, Ed. (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson).

Sheler, Jeffery L., "Cutting loose the holy canon," U.S. News & World Report, November 8, 1993.

Thiessen, H.C. (1955), Introduction to the New Testament (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans).

Yamauchi, E.M. (1979), "Apocryphal Gospels," The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Revised, G.W. Bromiley, Ed. (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans), Volume One.
#711
Dear Whoever does the channeling here[:)]

I have a question about the poleshift. As you know the earth is rotating at a slight angle will this angle be changed in the poleshift as well, and is this a sort of "repair" on earth, what causes it and why. I apologise for not having read the thread in its full length and ask that if these questions have allready been asked that you feel free to cut and paste. Any comment will be appreciated.

Thankyou

Regards Mustardseed
#712
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 01, 2004, 21:01:24
Channeling God
So.....I am ready
for what?
channeling ofcourse
yes that seems obvious....but what is the question
you don't know?
yea.....just kiddin, you thought you had me there didn't you
well ....I was a bit.....lets just go to it, how about sex and pornography
pretty heavy stuf isn't it?
yes but somehow I feel there is a difference. I know that sex must be from you, but pornography seems to be different
it is different......it is my beauty given to man and his "improvement" on it. I made sex....obviously, but you were not satisfied with sex as it was, in other words you could not get enough
can you explain that better
I made it good .....but you changed it, the term overkill komes to mind[;)]. There is nothing wrong with sex, no sin not bad at all but a gift to be enjoyed but if it is not used but abused by man it turns bad. Like everything else. Moderation is the key, everything should be done in moderation, even moderation! Ha. That is the nature of darkness, to make people so hooked on good that it turns into something bad. The enemy creates nothing, he can only take what is allready created and pervert it. He will try to take the credit for things ..like sex and make people feel condemned for enjoying it thinking they surely must be one of his crowd but they are not. This principle governs so many things. I create sex he turns it into perversions, I create plants to heal and help, he turns it into drugs, I create wine, he goes further and turns it into whiskey and rum, by the way do you realise that strong alcohol is a vehicle for negs?
no I did not, can you explain more about that
whiskey Rum Gin all of those can harbour a special breed of elementals as you call them, it is not in the alcohol itself but in the combination, drugs as well
really.....
they are a special breed ...... the arch demons Pan and Bacchus control them, they have been breed with a specific purpose, to seduce and pervert, this is making you uncomfortable isn't it
yes it is......
why don't you take some time and think about these things....I have more to say on this subject....and you need to hear it but you shoul take some time alone first......trust me
ok I will I need to stop now I will talk to you later
Ok .....dont worry, I am with you always....even there
I know......thankyou
#713
AlphaOmega

I agree totally with your post.

Douglas
I understand your point that the texts were written later. As you remember we all went over that in great detail in a memorable thread now long forgotten[:)], however my point is this.

Since we do not know in person the ones who put in on paper and since we "were not there", we can only guess if the things "added" later were added based on other written records, or "concocted" for whatever political or other motive. All we know is that certain records were found that dated about 75A.D. (I think that was the earliest correct me if I am wrong), if other records existed that formed the basis for these, it is indeed possible that they were destroyed or maybe hidden. If you will be fair consider the following, these other records may even exist somewhere, I am not saying they do, nor do I base anything on that, but even in a courtroom you are innocent till proven guilty. I know it is a long shot but Nag Hammadi as well as the Dead Sea scrolls are evidence that it is a possibility.
Since we who believe the Bible see in it a God that wants us to believe "by faith" this seems plausible.

I realise that you are not a believer in the historical accuracy of the Gospel but please be fair and admit that you base this nonbelief on circumstancial evidence, not hard fact. It is a conclusion you draw from the information you do have. Would you agree on that?

Regards Mustardseed
#714
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 29, 2004, 20:55:33
Due to what seems to popular demand my next channeling will be about

Sex and Pornography

Is that ok with everyone. I hope so. I will give you 10 hours to leave if you feel offended by this.

Regards Mustardseed


#715
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 29, 2004, 15:15:19
Dear Chill
Nice to hear you talking to God. You are on to something my friend. I would like to help you a bit so here are a few pointers from "God" that might be a help. I asked for something for you.

Channeling God

God can you help Chill she wants to talk to you and hear from you
Be glad to......Hi Chill now listen closely. The first point is the most important one. If you want to find My will and truly be led by me, it is important that you have no will of your own. Now before you go.....Hmmmm [;)] let me explain.

The key to getting help from me, guidance, joy or whatever needed is to acknowledge that you need My help. This very point is at the base of all other principles of the Christ way. It is like ....lets say you are lost in a forest but have a GPS unit in your bag. If you keep going around saying , I am not lost, I can figure this out, I will try for just another hour, etc etc you will get nowhere. Not until you admit to yourself that you are lost and not able to find the way, do you reach into your pocket and switch the GPS unit on.

This First principle is what draws My spirit. You know it is said nature abhors a vaccum. It is the same in the spirit. Now I am not saying that you should be a mindless robot at all but if you are interested in having Me speak to you, you need to have this vaccum, in order to reach out. I will feed the hungry but send the full on their way. The more you do this you will align your will with mine till they become one and you are truly walking with Me.

It is equally important that you admit to your self that the way you have previously seen things, reasoned and behaved is indeed not nessesarily the best way, not MY way. When you admit this as a possibility you open your Spirit. It is like pouring water on dry clay, making it more mallable and able to be formed. [:)].

I do speak to you, as well as to everybody else, but my voice is often drowned out by all the other voices, the crowd, the popular thing, the in thing and the easy way, and when it is, I will sometimes stop speaking or whisper so silently you do not hear it ....until you get quiet. It takes effort to be quiet, but what do you hear in the silence.....eccoes that will change the world....even your world ....whispers of a bright future....with no pain and sadness....joy and laughter ever after. The outlook may not always be easy but the uplook is always great, the future is as bright as my promises. You are dear to me and I love you, as much as I would love you if you were the only one on the planet.

thanks....I hope she does not feel it is too personal but I am glad that you have the guts to speak to her like that she is very dear to me as well. Please take care of her problems whatever they are ok?
I am......[:)]
#716
Hi Douglas
Thanks for the reply and the respect you show. Formulated will do. It is still on the borderline but a step upward [;)]. It still implies that the events of the Bible is not Historically correct, but are "made up". I say Historically correct and not Historically provable. I am aware of the facts and controversy surrounding this issue, but as we both realise .....we were not there , and in honesty can only guess, what motivated the writers wether it was a sinister or neutral motive or wether it was an account of actual happenings that had so far only had a verbal form, but needed to "be put down on paper" as some sort of record. In any case it seems clear that any problem with the film, should be seen as a problem with the Bible, as it seems to portray the events quite accurately. I still have not seen it and I am thinking about wether I should.

Regards Mustardseed

PS How about Thor and Odin and the Norse gods, any information you can share about them?

#717
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 29, 2004, 06:14:46
[:)]

If you will bear with me Oz. I just can't help thinking you are really funny. You and rhinegirl both talk as if you have actual power, and give the impression that there will be repercussions if I or "God" do not submit to you, you talk in terms of "sofar I have been gentle" , are you hinting at this as a threat? You talk of "giving us a chance to come clean"..........actually you sound as if you believe you are god yourself? Do you.? Then in the same sentance almost you both speak of "not bowing down to any God" as "seeing the light"[;)]. In my opinion such an attitude is .........well funny.

#718
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / i"m a newby
February 28, 2004, 21:42:29
Hi Antoon
Welcome....stick around and you will learn a lot. Be a bit careful with who you "lean" on. I can recommend Jeffs posts he is very knowledgable and always very ready to help. I may or may not be able to as well. Tell us what you have been doing so far and how you progressed, and we will see.
Regards Mustardseed
#719
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 28, 2004, 21:39:03
How about all of you who reads the thread give a little love to Rhinegirl[;)] she seems to need it.

I will start

I love you Jessica!!

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#720
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 28, 2004, 21:19:51
Channeling God
God ...do you have something to say?
Mustardseed...do you have something to ask?
Yes I do......I want to ask you about Jess and about all the other things suffering loneliness mell Gibson and Fishing and all that as well
OK then.......Suffering is good for you, it brings out the best in you and have many many benefits......IF.......it is the right suffering.
is there a wrong suffering
yes.....when people suffer needlessly when people start to get the idea that the suffering in itself is the goal and when people forget that it is not the suffering but the lessons learned from the suffering that helps you. It is another form of idolatry. People whipping themselves, suffering pain and hurt thinking that that will bring them closer to me. Crueling hours of joyless meditation, crawling on hands and knees the world is full of it
ok but what is the right suffering then
when you allow me to break you, when you submit to my will in your life, when you learn to see the lesson in the things that happen to you. Some people just do not want to yield they say "my head is bloody but unbowed" they suffer needlessly only to find in the end that a life lived in pride like that leads nowhere. Pride has no benefit in my realm, but is a tool of darkness to enslave humanity.
and what about loneliness
it is very similar......it can be a blessing and a curse. Some are lonely becourse I have moved that way in their life and allowed them to be alone and I will teach them and be their friend partner father or mother if they call out to me......but others will be and stay lonely for the wrong reason and will not benefit at all. They are lonely becourse of their actions words and thoughts and are in a sense their own punishment. Hell will be a continuation of the selfish self centered lives people are allready living here and heaven will be acontinued life of joy love and kindness that is chosen and empowered my me for others.
what about Mel Gibson and his film
He thinks a lot about me and has tried his best to be honest and tell a story that he believes should be told
is the film an accurate account
it is close enough for you to get the point, thats all that matters
Ok thanks........anything else
you are welcome......why wont you go see it
I dont like blood and violence I have seen too much in real life
reconsider.........you could learn some
ok I will think about it Bye for now
bye
#721
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 28, 2004, 20:44:57
Ok I will be honest with you then. First of all I edited my post as I felt I was being a bit too sensitive about it and that asking Nay to interfere was a bit....high handed. Maybe we should chat a bit instead.

You asked for my honesty and I will give you that. Generally I am a pretty decent fellow, and have friends all over the world who would go far to help me if I needed their help. Why is that ? I am not perfect by no means but I dont beat my wife, shout at my kids or set the dog on the mail man. I have learned from my almost 50 years in this world that what you give out in this world has a way of returning to you. Unkind words and inconsiderate agressions on my part fx. here on the pulse, have come back not only, in more agression from others but also in my life away from the pulse. People choose where they want to live their life, in the sunshine or in the shadows. A man that wants friends must show himself friendly. Now before you shout that you dont need noone and dont care about friends........think about it a bit.

I would say that allthough you seem to be a very bright and persuasive girl, and have many very interesting observations to add, largely you tend to carry a negative attitude and speak in a very agressive mode. This will come back to you. People (like me) will start to ignore you. Noone will really enjoy your company and you will be ......... alone.

Like many other things you are faced with a choice. If you believe that you alone have all the answers....keep going in the same way and alianate people one after one.......or lighten up....take a bit of honest correction, that honestly is only meant to help you and just try to be the nice german brunheld warrior you have the potential to be. Emphasis on NICE[;)].

Nur fur dich!!. Ich habe uberhaubt kein problem mit dir, ich denke das du ganz nett sein kann ....wenn du das wilst .

Regards Mustardseed
#722
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 28, 2004, 20:16:31

Dear Rhinegirl
If you insist on your agression I will have to ignore you. As far as straight talk I do not need god to help me on this one. [:)]

Please try to understand that the very notion (idea) that anyone.......anyone at all on the astral pulse or "God" where ever he is , should be afraid of you is ludicrus.

It only serves to show to everyone your thoughts and high opinions of yourself as well as make people ignore your posts . That is all you gain. Is it worth it?

Regards Mustardseed
#723
quote:

As an ancient historian by trade, I dont rate the actual *historical* factual content of the NT, most of the gospal story was concocted way after the events with many of the themes taken from earlier classical mythology, but that's a topic for another post.



Hi Douglas
I agree with your observations in general and your point is valid. One little bitty observation of my own is your choice of words in the statement above.

We agree that the Gospels were written after the death of Jesus. This could be becourse of different things, but to use the word "concocted" implies a fradulent motive on the part of the writer and you are right that this should be a topic for another post.......well wait up.....actually it was the point of several other threads. [;)]. As far as I remember we sort of agreed to disagree, so lets keep doing that. The insinuations you make above is only an assumption, your assumption and maybe the assumption of others as well, but in all fairness you should not present it as fact, becourse it is not.

Kindly Mustardseed
#724
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 28, 2004, 19:38:02
Dear Rhinegirl
I must admit that I hesitate to ask your questions, and that is my perogative. One of the reasons is that allthough neither "God" or I are afraid of you, you come across very agressive and self confident. Generally this attitude seem to somewhat obscur my channeling, or colour it . I am not sure why this is. I will pray about it a bit more. Thanks for your input anyway.

Regards Mustardseed
#725
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
February 28, 2004, 17:02:18
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Originally posted by Oazaki

quote:
Originally posted by rhinegirl

 Notice how its knowledge stops where Mustards stops?




yeah, but that's how channelling (as opposed to, for example, possession, telepathic communication, meditation, OBE contact, etc) works.  the chanelled entity can't fetch thru any information not, in some way, already known by the chaneller.  however, by connecting the logical dots amongst the chaneller's own knowledge, and further by approaching what the channeler already knows from a different persepective, many new insights can be revealed.  but yeah, the chanelled entity does have to work within the context of the chaneller's knowledge, abilities and even, to an extent, belief structure.  hence why you can't get things like the time-series equations for the motion of this solar system's as-yet undiscovered planets thru channeling.  though you can get such info thru mediation and psychic perception (Nibiru ephemeris anyone?).  but bear in mind, that if you do get such info thru meditation or psychic perception you'd still have to put it into a form accessible by your own conscious awareness (eg standard mathematical notation).  so, there too, you'd be somewhat limited by your own current state of knowledge and would have to develop and increase said knowledge to actually progress (which, usually, you can also do thru mediation etc).  same with channeling: to actually go further you have to find your own answers, rather than seek to get them given to you.  remember: each is responsible for their own spiritual and he who seeks to walk a path laid out for him by another will never find himself or realize his own purpose and destiny in life.

all the best,
Oazaki.



Thankyou for explaining that Oazaki. You have just said it in words I could never use, as they are not "mine". Just to assure you that I am not playing a game, believe me that allthough I claim / believe I am channeling God, I do not force anyone to believe it, nor do I claim more closeness to God than anyone else. "God" and myself have gone over that several times on the thread and I expect that this is the reason he is asking you to read it before answering your questions. I actually felt a bit hesitant to channel anything even slightly negative and it caused me some grief , but I chose to anyway, hoping you would be able to just think of the input as just an opinion. Thanks for taking the time to write that if you do not mind I will referance this post to anyone who asks similar questions.

Regards Mustardseed