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You are basically asking if their reality is like ours. The very short answer is no. Although I am sure there are other beings out there who are just as physical as we are so I would think in many ways they have the same needs we do.

Most definitely.  We're not the only carbon based beings living within a physical reality.
There are many realities out there, physical and otherwise and everything in between. 
There are realities which we can't even comprehend with our limited base "human experience".

As a funny side note, I believe those incomprehensible realities are the realities which Frank declared as being "Focus 4". 
They aren't a different level or something, they're just a different reality to experience.

 

I really don't get it.  Don't these realities or places on the astral plane already exist a certain way before you or I project there?

They exist, but not in any predefined way.  As I said, your experience of somewhere would probably be vastly different from how I would experience it.
This is why the Astral Pulse Island was always a failure in terms of people visiting the "same place".
It was built up with word ideas here on the forums, but translated differently to everyone who attempted to "go there".

It seems to me that my questions relate to the objective nature of the places and not to interpretations.  Either these things are true or not, even before I come along and interpret my experience there.  How does one person see a room as a bedroom while another sees it as an underground cave full of crystals and such?  Is one of them tripping on acid?

Different life experiences fuel different non-physical experiences. 

I have heard that on the astral plane thoughts manifest instantly - is this why people perceive that reality differently?

Yes and no.  This is one of the largest misnomers.
I've experienced realities which were extremely malleable to my thoughts and others which were as seemingly solid as this physical reality.
So no, thoughts don't necessarily manifest instantly... if they did, most people wouldn't have the discipline for the journey.  The "astral wind" (for lack of a better term) would blow them all around uncontrollably... yet for most, such doesn't happen... or at least not often.

So two people going to the same reality would perceive it differently because they're thoughts are actually changing or molding that reality to conform to their beliefs?  If I expect to see the people there driving in cars even if they don't, then I will see them driving cars there?  Is that really how it works?  If I believe the people there go to job the way we do in this reality then I will see them going to job even if they really don't? 

It's deeper than just "beliefs" and "expectations"...
Give this article a read:  http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2011/09/02/addition-to-your-non-physical-perception/

I can perhaps see how my expectations and beliefs could change the environment like the room we're in, but how could it change the people there?  How can my beliefs that they drive cars and go to work make them drive cars and go to work if they really don't?

You're not changing the people, only your perception of the people.  They're still there.  They're still real and exist.  They are there, but HOW you experience them is what changes.  They likely don't experience you like you believe you are either. 
It works both ways.

I don´t know (what a dream is).

That's perfect.  The problem though is that you use phrases above as if you did.
Hell, even I don't know what dreams are... but while I cannot tell you what they are, I *CAN* tell you what they are not.

A dream isn't any concept of idea which humanity has currently, scientifically discovered.  That is something I can tell for absolute certain.
Science has yet to uncover anything regarding the experience.

SO...
When you say:

Put another way, I´m not just interested in having more vivid or meaningful dreams

Consider deeply what you're actually trying to say here. 

Robert Monroe, in ´Journeys out of the Body´, writes about comforting a sick boy while projecting. Later, in a projection, he encounters the astral body of the boy, who has since passed on. The boy asks him, ´Where do I go now?´
Later on, Monroe reads in the newspaper that a local boy has died after a protracted illness. The reason for reporting this would seem to be to suggest the boy Monroe meets projecting and the local boy who´s died are the same boy, although Munroe doesn´t try to prove it.
On another occasion he visits a family who are aware of his presence and considers contacting them in real life.
In both cases he is looking for a logical or causal connectivity between physical and nonphysical experiences that are independant of him as observor.

Would you care to venture a guess as to why experiences independent of the observer very rarely happen (if at all?).

I personally don't believe the causal connection most people toss around, such as a "real time zone".  I have my own theories, most of which conflict with most people who practice such things.  LoL

White,

Your phrasing of wanting to fit things into a box... and wanting reality and yourself to be how YOU want them to be... are statements which trouble me slightly.
You sound like you're conditioning yourself for failure here. 

What happens if those things you want to be true about yourself and reality, ultimately aren't true?  What will you do then?
Or what if you can't neatly fit this stuff into a box?  What will you do then?

Just questions to ponder. 

Do beings that live in the astral planes have tv's like we do?  Do they watch tv?  What about the beings that can see us but we can't see them - do they see their tv's and our tv's?  If we have our tv's on does it make it difficult for them to hear their tv's over the sound of ours?

Do they eat and poop like we do?  Do they have to eat or is that optional?  I know their bodies vibrate on at a higher frequency, but do they have internal organs like us?  Do they have to eventually poop after they eat? 

Do they have vehicles like we do in the physical?  I know that when we astral project we can travel from one location to another instantly, but can they do that too? 

I heard they don't have jobs or money, is that true?   

I heard they have houses but they don't build them like we do, they create theirs with their minds - thoughts manifest instantly in the astral planes.  Is that true?

I heard that the astral plane that they're on seems just as real to them as this physical world does to us. So does that mean they can't move through walls or solid objects with their astral bodies like we can when we astral project to the astral plane?

Do their bodies die like ours do?  Can they be killed and lose their astral body and end up on another plane in another body?

So many questions!  So little time.

Let's break it down like this... all of the questions you've asked above are based around concepts you've had throughout your "human existence" here in this physical reality.
You could visit these other realities and they would probably seem extremely similar to this physical reality only because your life experiences and what you've already experienced are used as the basis for constructing those other reality experiences.

So unless you're a very creative person, you're going to see these "beings" with houses, jobs, eating, etc... all in the same way you're used to it happening.

Non-physical experiences are subjective in HOW you experience, but objective in WHAT you experience.

What I mean by that is that if you take two people projecting into the same reality, they're each going to experience it differently, but the base of the experience will remain true throughout.  For example, those two people project into a room... that would be the objective nature of the experience.  A room.  How each of those people experience that room would be completely different.  One might see it as a bedroom, while the other might experience it as an underground cave full of crystals and such... 

Now if you were to ask those people what they experienced, you wouldn't be able to line up their experiences since each would tell you a grand story based upon their experience.  Right?

At some point you´ll have to ask for confirmation from another consciousness of shared experience, like the shared dreaming in the movie Inception; or two points of contact between the physical and non-physical (two points required to make a line), like Madame Blavatsky asking her Indian friends to project over to London to read the Times. Putting aside what is ´real´ (Nabokov wrote´reality´ only makes sense put in inverted commas) you have to determine the relationship between the physical and the non-physical: even if the entire universe is all dreamt up by me and I´m the only consciousness.

That's what I'm trying to tell you, getting such a confirmation from "another consciousness" (aka: someone outside of you) isn't possible, because experience is unique to the consciousness experiencing.

Put another way, I´m not just interested in having more vivid or meaningful dreams, but I want to enhance my current ´reality´. I want to grow towards the sun, I want to move to the next level of existence. If this is part of the way then it´s part of the way. If it isn´t, then it isn´t, I don´t mind.

Well, okay... we start start there then.

Answer this question for me: "What is a dream?"

It's Tom... gotta love it.  

I'd LOVE to get Tom and Adyashanti in a room together... on man, that would rock.

Well, the question ultimately boils down to "What is spiritual?" in regards to our everyday lives...

The answer, to me (boiled down to a nutshell... lol), is that anything is spiritual as long as it's a practice you're putting forth as one of Love and Kindness and done in a positive way.

So, to bring that back to your specific questions... masturbation and sexual fantasies are usually about self gratification. 
If you and your partner masturbate together or engage in each others sexual fantasies together, then there's a more Love/Kind/Positive aspect geared towards it.

Part of the entire point of this physical reality is the physical interactions we have on a day-to-day basis with other people/beings who also inhabit this reality. 

I see your point. There was most definitely a moment of great effort followed by a feeling of, ´yes, I´m free... up and away´.

To be consciously aware of your "self" is the only determining factor of the experience.

For several weeks to several months I´ve been consuming the literature on the subject, so, from a prior perspective, I doesn´t surprise me to have ´dreamt´ about it since it was what I was thinking about during the day.

This is a double edged sword, one which most people fall into the trap of... including myself.
They want to read and digest as much information on the subject as they can... not realizing that that very act usually leads to a narrowing of their beliefs and expectations.
There was a guy who used to post on here named Pauli, he had MANY successes with projection, yet he never personally acknowledged them because those experiences didn't fit within the narrow confines of what he had read about over the many years previously.  So he essentially threw out those experiences and labeled them as having no value because he didn't "rise out of his physical body", "felt the vibrations", etc... *sigh*

So in the end, read what you can, take it in, but kind of put it off into the "maybe" pile for now.  Reason being is that all this stuff is unique to the experiencer.  My experience of the non-physical isn't going to be the same as yours... in just about every way you can imagine.  I could share with you an experience, and you might say "well I had a similar experience!"... but you'd be horribly wrong, because experience is unique.  You may not even believe this now, but this is also how our physical reality experiences work.  Each of us experiences in a different way.

Take 10 people who all witness an event happen and you will get 10 different perspectives of it.  

What was most indicative, I feel, of how ´real´ (or perhaps rather, authentic) this experience was, was my state of mind afterwards. Fully awake, I was aware of being connected into something. I made the conscious decision to close that faucet... I can´t walk around all day having music playing in my ears...

Also, don't fall into the trap of "how real" an experience is.  Some people say that their projections feel MORE REAL than waking life... well, that's actually a silly comparison to make, because "WHAT IS REAL?"

Real is anything you can experience.  If you experience something, then it's real.  It can't be more or less real than something else.  
Example... say you had a projection where you flew over Paris.  You EXPERIENCED it... it 100% happened.  It's as real an experience as walking to your local store is, because it happens to you.

We do this usually because we lack the proper common language in order describe these experiences in a manner which we can all agree on.  If I tell you to go to your kitchen table and bring me an apple which is there, it's relatively simple to do (assuming there's an apple there in the first place LoL), that's because we have a proper common language which we agree upon.  We know what a "kitchen" is, we know what a "table" is, and we know what an "apple" is.  No such commonality exists in regard to the non-physical.

I feel that when people talk about how "real" an experience was, what I believe they're actually talking about is the clarity of their experience in comparison to their normal waking life.  
I believe the clarity comes from the fact that when you're non-physical you're not experiencing through the filters of your human existence.  Without those "human body" filters in place, things feel more raw... more clear... you're experiencing through the filters of your consciousness instead.

The best way I can describe it is like putting on a fresh, new pair of shoes.  When you start walking around on them, they feel so much nicer, crisp, cleaner and just generally feel great.
Well, that's kind of like when we go from the physical to the non-physical.  You're taking off your old shoes and putting on new shoes which you have very little experience wearing.  It feels new and crisp!

I´ll let you know how it all progresses in this post.

I look forward to reading more as you progress!  

Meanwhile, here, it is raining.

Bleh... not a big fan of rain here either.  hehe

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Hi Rye!  Welcome to the forum!

Putting aside notions of "seeing your sleeping body" or "climbing out of your body"...
The only question one needs to ask themselves to whether an experience was a projection or not is:  Were you consciously aware that you were non-physical?"

That's it.  Everything else is simply not important, that's because most people have this grand idea of what it means to project...
From what they read (from other people with the same grand notions), they get the idea set up in their heads of separating from their physical bodies and floating around their bedroom and crap like that.

The ONLY thing which is important is, while you're experiencing the non-physical, you must realize you're experiencing the non-physical. 
So essentially, what people call a "lucid dream" is a full projection, yet they simply refuse to believe it.

From the description of your experience... from the "climbing out of your physical body" (who does that if they're not aware?), I'd say it was a projection.
Now with that said, a "dream" is a projection as well.  It's a projection where you simply don't realize you're projecting.  You're the actor in a play, sort-to-speak.  While a projection is kind of like you're the actor in a play, but you have full notion that you're not REALLY the actor, and you have some semblance of control over how things play out.

Does any of this make sense?

SOLID Lumaza!

Please everyone, read what he just posted.
Take it in, analyze it, then read it again!! 
It's paramount for your success. 

Another way to look at energy in our physical reality rule set is to consider, what can you DO here? In science energy is measured as the ability to do work. In the same way that a ball held in the air is given potential, our thoughts and ideas have potential.

Suppose you have an idea to transform the way humanity thinks - a massive global change in potential energy ideas - but you lack the self esteem to go out and enact this idea. That is a real example of energy blockage.

To find your energy blockages you need to reflect on what you want to achieve, that's the mental base of the energy source. Then think about why you doubt yourself with respect to these goals.

That's a great way to put it. 

Xanth , you dont believe the e.v.p. from Frank Keppel is real ?  Some I have heard some believable to me . 

I believe Bluefirephoenix is very good at what she does and what she provided wasn't "just" EVP of Frank.
She provided her psychic connection to the talk she had with him.  There's more going on there than "just EVP". 

I thought that Raduga advised "cycling" immediately after you awake, before making any physical move.

Well, the trick is not moving upon waking.  Literally, not moving a muscle.
It's a lot harder than it sounds.  LoL

See, the thing is that "energy blockage" is a metaphor for what I described above. 
You don't ACTUALLY have any energy which is blocked...

What you have are things about yourself you need to work on in order to move closer to Love.

And no, "energy blockages" won't stop you from projecting.  Some of the worst people in history have been known to do it just fine... and if anyone has blocked energy, it'd be the worst humanity has to offer. 

The human mind does one thing VERY well: Create order from chaos.
It's how you can look at something, like a spill of milk on a counter top, and see a face in it.
It's your mind seeing something and trying to make sense of it.

Well... this "order from chaos" isn't limited to just your sight.  It also applies to your other senses as well.
When we "hear" an EVP, for example, it's just your mind creating a sound which it wants to recognize out of an incoherent, chaotic sound pattern.

It's just how our mind works.  I'm not saying all EVP's are of this nature, but probably most of them.

Actually you are un-focusing. Have you ever been doing something so boring you don't need to think about it? After a while you start day-dreaming and usually you aren't aware you were day-dreaming till you snap out of it.

If you have then that was phasing. So if you have done that then you can consciously phase. What you need to do now is learn to maintain your awareness while in that state. If you have not ever done this then go set a really boring yet simple task for yourself.

Maybe we can turn this into an official projection method! 

Essentially, what "energy blockages" boil down to are areas of your life and self which you need to work on in order to grow spiritually.

So, in order to become a better, more loving, kind person... what do you figure you need to work on?

I have about a zillion questions which i will stretch out vs. posting all at once. Many times my vibrations will occur within an actual dream which then instantly brings me to awarenesss. If i project from within the dream would it then be focus 3 of Frank Kepples model? Where the deceased are focused? Also-if i am having vibrations normally is there a technique to bypass focus 2 and go directly to focus 3? Thank you.

The focus models (Frank's and Monroe's) aren't meant to be taken literally... at least in my opinion.  Consciousness is unique to the experiencer, this is one major reason why "mapping" consciousness with such focus models is a fools errand.

If you become aware during your non-physical dream experience... you're projecting.  Don't worry about what subjective level of focus you're on.  Consciousness is consciousness.  There's no "collective" area vs "personal" area... consciousness is just consciousness.  When you find yourself aware, place your intent and go do whatever it is you want to do or experience.

Suppose you have a fire cracker. From the attomic point of view you know the very placement of every atom and the electrons, protons and neutrons that make it. Those particals create the gun powder, fuze and the paper that holds its together. The fuze spontaneously ignites within a vast vaccum chamber. In theory, with presice physics, you can pinpoint exactly where each atom will end up.
Yes I talk about the 'big bang'. Iv pondered about this recently so with that being said, are our physical destinies not pre determined? Are we not 'exactly where we should be' by this concept?
    From this physical passing we should remain observant, or is that still just the expanding of particals which make up those observations, this thought, and this article I'm writing? Is the way we react to the physical outside of this paradigm or is it part of it?
   I know the questions i ask are unanswerable but I'd like to hear your thoughts. We are just informational beings sharing information for the betterment of humanity. Open my mind for me 

Actually, more you pin down an atom's exact position, the less you can know about it's momentum/direction. 
And the more you can pin down an atom's momentum/direction, the less you can know about it's position.
Hence, you can never know the exact position *AND* the exact direction of an atom at the same time.

It's called the "Uncertainty Principle":  https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
So no, we can't pinpoint exactly where an atom will end up.  It's part of the quantum mystery. 

"Life" can have dream-like qualities as well.
That doesn't make it any more or less real than anything else you can experience.

Simply put, an experience is real if you experienced it. 

When using ones 3rd eye to visualize a better future does repetiton help or hinder the process?
In essence does the repetiton become meaningless after X number?

Just remember that, in the end, visualization will only take it so far... you actually have to get out of your chair and ENACT that better future for yourself.

Right, at some point you're no longer visualizing and you're DOING in the same manner you do anything else in your life.
At some point that visualization kicks "on" your projection reflex and you'll be "elsewhere" projecting.