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Dunno, Saddam is evil, but then I can't think of any regime which the US has put in place after replacing the old one which has really lasted. And some of them have failed in quite a horriffic way eg Sierra Lione. Also an attack on Iraq would further destrabalise the Arab world, which is currently very tetchy and unbalanced anyway, so the consequences could be far reaching. Hey, isn't 2003 prophesised as an important year? Could be connected, as the attack which is almost certainly coming will probably happen at the end of this year/start of next. What makes me sick is that Blair is acting as the US's lacky again, when a large majority of British don't support him ("Mr Flibbles very cross" - Red Dwarf).
One other thing - Iraq is not a threat. Saddam may be an absolute ba***rd but he isn't stupid enough to mount a direct, even nuclear, attack against the west, that would be pure suicide and he would be crushed like an insect if he did. As for supporting terrorism, we have no proof of that, but we DO have LOTS of proof against Saudi Arabia on this change. Also since Mr Hussein knows there is a very real threat that he will be ousted and probably killed he won't be thinking of trying to annoy anyone, but (hopefully) pacify. If he has any sense he will allow the inspectors back in. The reason he chucked them out was because he was getting nothing in return - they had been inspecting for years and the sanctions were as tight as ever (causing massive death of young innocent Iraqis). Why then should he bother letting them snoop on him? To then say he is flouting UN resolutions well maybe, but who can really blame him. So he invaded Kuwait - but the US has invaded more countries than I could possible hope to list. More hypocrist, more greed, more power mongering, more war, and more money for the rich. I really hate politicians sometimes.

OK first I absolutely love playing games, my all time ultimate favourite being action quake 2 online, might try getting into reaction quake 3 at some point. CS is far too slow, though I haven't played it much, I'm really not sure why everyone jizez so wildly over it....bit slow for me. But about action Q2, it is very graphic, you are playing against other people, aiming at their heads, bandaging when you are shot, reloading when needed etc. In other words getting close to seeming real.

However, I have to say that they do leave a negative mark on you, in that like films they add to the psychological "violence=cool" mindstate, while also disconnecting you from reality. In its lesser form this seems to lead to a kind of blood-lust, people talking about war like it was a good thing, reading far too much of guns'n'ammo, etc. In the most severe cases, I believe it can disconnect you from reality and into the alternative mindstate enough that people start doing such sick things in the real world. Or maybe they will just join the army....speaking of which I was listening to Jeff Renses show I think a while back with some conspiracy theory bloke claiming games like quake, half life CS, solfier of fortune (exceedingly graphic), etc are deliberately put out there to corrupt and modify todays youth, turning them into mad killas http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_evil.gif" border=0> who will then go into the army as grunts. Sounds a bit (or a lot) nuts but he did put up a reasonable argument. I mean, I know that long term use of games impressed them onto the subconscious mind. I try and get to sleep sometimes and all I can see is me bouncing around maps, trusty mp5 in hand, spraying bullets into my enemies. But oooooohhhhh I have had action quake 2 dreams, and I cannot even begin to describe how much fun they were!!!!!!!!!

and they do improve reaction times, hand-eye coordination....
and they are an amazing amount of fun!!!....
...but if I start playing an evening can vanish on me, which I could have been using to do so many more productive and enlightening things. OOoops I got ADSL a few weeks back that certainly didn't help!

See you all on the servers...http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

Winged Wolf - do you not think that the energy which negs use is disruptive, in that it may exist on the same frequency level as what could become "nice" energy, but has a distincly different property? Maybe it is a different type, in the same way as in the physical we have protons/neutrons and electrons.
However my experience suggests similar to what Dion Fortune talks about with the Qliphoth, that the energy is highly disruptive and disordered, although the conduits which the energy flows along may well hold it in order.

OK a good quote from Dion in the Mystical Quaballah - p271, on the Qliphoth that is rejected from Malkuth - "...it is a reservoir of disorganised force emanated from broken up forms, cast out from evolution, it is chaos upon a lower arc. It is from this reservoir of force , that the Shells, or imperfect entities, build up their vehicles." Same idea as above, they survive on this type of energy, but they do still require some sort of form and order.

This then presents two different ideas of how to harm negs - first to remove their energy source, like I was talking about with the Q-link, although his would only be a tempory solution as they could build up strength again. Or to destroy their structure, eg by overloading them with lots of high amplitude energy, or in a similar way to how physical weapons work (the typical astral sword). I guess this second way is what WW was talking about, and this type of shield may harm a person too.

Yeah they are anything but cheap. Have you any idea on the real mechanics of how they work? I mean, how they resonate with the non-physical? Anyone?? Mystery to me. Probably something quantum = deep and confusing.

I ain't RB but it might be a good idea to get all your childreen sleeping over running water. This would be generally a very very healthy healthy thing to do anyway, stop the negs getting at them while they are young and easily influenced. It would also allow you to meditate with the peace of mind that you baby is fully protected. Drawing some/all of the sacred symbols on your her body before meditating would be another cure.
If only my parents had had a copy of ppsd....
Hope this helps!

On the "thou shalt not kill" thing, I don't think it is EVER necessary to kill someone, you can always incapacitate them first. Can't think of any exceptions. Things about weapons and especially guns, they makes it much easier to kill, even if you didn't mean to do so. eg you slash someones arm with a knife, you're probably not going to miss and put in through their head, unlike with a gun.

"Inguma, anyone can pick anything apart if they wish to do so. I do not see anything contructive about that. On the other hand looking at something with an unbias opinion to find the truth is much more helpful."

I prefer tearing into both sides of an argument. Then weighing up, and the strongest wins. I cannot pick holes in the theories which say that the moon landing is faked, and I have seen the evidence in documentrys etc. Although to be fair it is easier to say why we didn't do something than saying we did, if you catch my drift. As for faked photos and evidence etc, well this evidence has been around since before techy computers.
I'll admit that I err to the side of conspiracies naturally, but I always try and objectively look for the truth and enjoy slapping myself when my preconceptions are destroyed. Besides, I wasn't being entirely serious. Mostly it amuses me that we didn't go there, the biggest hoax ever. lol.

James touched upon what I think is the main point of why guns are illigal in Britain - if they were not criminals would start carrying them on the off chance that they have to shoot first, people would buy them because they would feel the need to have the same level of protection as what could be used against you. Then the police start carrying guns and before you know it the world is a much more dangerous place. But as is often the case, sudden large scale changes in the law don't do good things, at least in the short term ie what was said about australia, with firearms crimes up many times. So really there isn't a lot you can do except slowly change for the better, which is my opinion = less guns. Guns are much more dangerous than knives.

peace!

ps magick can be used to shield without harming, for anyone who is worried about being killed.

OK then:

"flag: it has a piece of rigid material inserted along the top of the flag, apparently not all the way, theres no wind on the moon... how could we see it otherwise..."
So? It is obvious it would need to be rigid in some way. But I am told the flag was fluttering - ie moving on its own, with no wind...Can't remember myself though.

"lighting: the most important point to remember is that the moon itself is very reflective, part of its makeup in the dust. (which is why the moon lights our earth at night..)"
Stand in the desert and you will only get one shadow. The reflections off the ground would be random and the only possible thing they could do would be to lower the contrast between the shady and light areas. The main shadow from the sun would be massively brighter than any reflections, just like on earth. This does not explain the only shadows being cast converging just off screen, or double shadows (both sets converging). Perhaps if you had a huge mirror, but otherwise forget it.

"no stars: go outside with your camera and take a picture with a flash of the sky. no stars... the exposure is too quick, to get the stars in the pic you need longer exposure which would cause everything else to flare out"
No idea, can't say, but you certainly should see stars in the video footage even if you are right. I would like to test this though.

"gravity: never heard this one, but ok... say you do double the speed of footage and its normal speed, what happens if you actually had footage of low gravity movement and sped it up? it would look like our earth gravity... "
No! Of course not! Gravity on the moon is what, 1/3rd of earth gravity - that means you would be jumping 3 times as high. Well, I would anyway! Also even if they decided not to jump so high, they would be able to jump much further forwards with each step, having much more time to glide. The video would not be the same as a slowed down one from earth.

"the moon does look very similar up close over most of it, what else is there apart from craters, dust and rocks? and yes, some places in the desert would come very close to looking like the moon (which means absolutely nothing, unless youre paranoid...)"
If you are referring to the two pictures supposedly miles apart which were of the same landscape, no they were exactly the same piece of land down to the last little lump of rock, you can superimpose them and show they are the same place (only I think one has a moon lander and the other doesn't...not sure though). Again, if you took one picture of a desert on earth I guarentee you could spend your entire life searching for another piece of land which looked exactly the same and die a very unhappy (and lonely!) man.

"you americans and your consipiracy theories. do you not think the russians would have been tracking it on radar and would have been the first to tell the world that they didnt actually leave orbit? what about australia being used to pick up the radio from the spacecraft, which was where they were told it was... not in some wierd orbit."
don't think the ruskies had that advanced radar, and if they did it would more likely be pointing at the earth. Dunno about the aussies. And I am english thanks!

Any more ideas would be welcomed though!

Really when you look at it, there is so much evidence to say we didn't go, and none of it can be seriously refuted. However if anyone would like to furnish me with a quality website which attempts to do so I would enjoy trying to tear it apart! I did see a NASA guy trying to say that of course we went, but he had no arguments to refute the conspiracy ones.
Lol the first time I saw something on the net claiming the moon landings were a hoax I just laughed and thought "yeah good one, muppit freaks...". Badly blinkered as I was, and most people are.

laters!

Back again! I've been away for a while but I always like showing off conspiracy theories so here goes...
Shayde - have you ever tried using a torch in full sunlight? You cannot even see its light, and that is after the sun has gone through our atmosphere. On the moon the light of the sun would be incredibly bright, no artificial light would stand a chance. And why bother taking huge powerful torches with you when you are going somewhere it never gets dark? Further, on the lighting thing, shadows from the sun always lie parellel to eachother for obvious reasons. However, on many of the "moon landing" photos the shadows converge to a point just off screen. I mean, come on....
Umm lets see...
Oh yeah when the lander took off it went straight up and left no gas trail after it. It was powered I think by a hydrogen/oxygen mix, as most are, which combines to make water. This would then crystalise and leave a proper big vapour/ice trail but there was none. You can just imagine a little moon lander model being pulled up on strings! The acceleration looked decidedly dodgy to me too, but I can't remember that well.
The lander was tested on earth and was found to be completely useless and impossible to pilot, let alone land. I know they crashed one in tests, probably a few. By the time Mr Armstrong got to the moon he still hadn't successfully piloted one...
err....what else let me see.....something about the videos being shoulder held and yet there is no shaking of the camera, even when it was apparently moving.
And there was something else about the photos, can't remember too well now
anyway Ashfo got most the points - good work! But haven't we all had this discussion before?

While memories cannot be forcefully erased as far as I know, it doesn't matter as the reason you want to erase it is because it bothers you. And you can do something about that.
Go to the astral pulse, into articles and basic psychic countermeasures. Read up on CIR - Core Image Removal - and apply the techniques to the bad memories you have. It works and is really easy!
happy housework

Hi!
Thanks for your responses - been a while replying, have had exams (gggrrr)
I think that the small things in life, like sitting and watching the football with a beer in one hand (england beat argentina woohoo!!), don't have to be given up. I mean, just look at RB, he still manages to have "a" drink every so often and his ascent has been straight up the middle pillar. But, those things do build dependance when done in excess. I don't know about sacrifice, as this implies giving up things you like. For me, it is more doing other things I prefer, although I suppose sacrificing things which get in the way....well, every persons choice how much they want to put into spiritual growth.

kakkarot: Yes you can progress up the left or right hand path (severity/mercy), but it takes longer. The pillars of illusion is through yesod, but you could go left through hod (sphere of mind) or right through netzach (emotion).

quote:but: "to advance on the path becomes impossible unless you have conquered your emoions and mind". is not the path that you speak of, the path of conquering the emotions and the mind, as well as the spirit and the body? for the path does not consist of only one step that is taken immediately after one learns to control themself, or does it? (you didn't really specify which path, unless you mean the path to enlightenment)

OK I am not entirely sure I understand the qestion but will have a go. What I have been thinking is that if you conquer one thing, like mind or emotion, that seems to emanate into the other areas, like body and spirit as you say.
The path, yeah I mean to ascention, enlightenment. I think that learning to control yourself in some way is absolutely essential, but there are quite a few ways of going about this.

Bath abbey - yeah like a massive cathedral, but an abbey is/was for monks primarily. Very impressive place, and come with a noticeable shift in the atmosphere as you walk in.

Hey
I actually agree with Tyrone here, that peoples thoughts do send energy around the place and that people hating you can make you feel down and depressed, same as a low level psychic attack. Last term I was feeling down a lot of the time, for no particular reason, so I did some pendulum divination and found out that a big cause of it was two blokes I live with sending me bad thoughts (I don't really know why they don't like me, well it is periodic anyway and extremely random, possibly something to do with pot lol). So I set up a shield and quickly felt a strong wave of yep, euphoria. I was very suprised, and am still not entirely sure what caused it.
Soooo, shielding yourself is always a good idea, for filtering out all the mucky energies. But for it to last requires regular maintainance, unfortunately.

Kakkarot - this may sound odd but it is more likely that when you and your magick friends were playing with the weather, you weren't doing it directly - this does require a hell of a lot of skill. The weather over America has been manipulated for years now (see www.cheniere.org), so it is more likely that your magick was affecting the machine operators, and the spell you did coincided with a small group in America breaking up the weather patterns for a short time. When the forecasters say that it should be sunny and then it snows it is a pretty good indication that someone is messing with the weather!

Hey guys!
Below is a link to a 613Kb file with a few audio clips on it from RB's interview, but in reverse. Each little segment is seperated, and you can play it on winamp but it is better if you can slow it down. Software for this can be found at www.goldwave.com. Each clip contains a phrase or just some words thrown in there randomly, so - what can you all hear?! I have made my mind up about a lot of the phrases but would love to hear what you all think. There are reversals on RB, Art and one of the callers at the end of the show.

www.blanc.demon.co.uk/backtalk.mp3

enjoy!

Nitetravler - yes negs = negative entities, which covers a huge range of creatures, some of which I am told can harm projectors. But the general rule seems to be keep your distance from them and they'll leve you alone, like most animals in the physical I guess.

....yeah K burns something horrid, I was in serious pain, but worth it!

Joe - with respect to breaking attachmentment points, have you tried using RAPIDO methods over them? Generally bouncing energy back and forth very quickly over the wart puts them under a lot of pressure. I have tried visualising sacred symbols over them too, can't say how well it works - probably has to be done on a regular basis. I found that RB's method of drawing a circle/cross over them to be very effective, but I think you have to attack the pychological causes too.
Another interesting thing I try is looking for where the main areas of attachment seem to be - for me it is over my solar plexus. So i often draw a big cicle/cross over the entire area and have noticed some good effects.

[long term]

Lol monicat are you addressing me in your last post?! No ketamine is physically very safe, and has been used as an anesthetic for humans and animals for a number of years. Since Vietnam I think when it was first mass produced, as it is easy to make. If someone got injured on the battlefield one of their squaddie mates just just pumped them up on k and let them trip out until they had access to proper medical help. As for k-holing, well I wasn't really talking about going that deep, lower doses are very interesting and fun. When I tried it the other day I found I was able to induce vibrations almost instantly, and with very little effort - I wasn't really talking about spontaneous ones. To get out of body in any state would be good for me, just to break down the sub-conscious barriers I seem to have set in place. Relying on anything is a bad plan, and any drug will start giving bad effects/screwing up your mind/lowering your vibrations/stop you from accessing higher planes/etc (all different perspectives on the same thing) in the long term. This is an important point. Just trying a drug once or twice will invariably by safe, as long as you are mentally stable enough to cope with the effects. I love trying new things, they expand my mind and experiences, they are always fun and/or interesting, and the best friendships are cemented when intoxicated in some way.

Actually the strangest things about K, which was quite depressing for me, was when all my mates were up they started coming out with really deep interesting statements (no, I wasn't just imagining it!) but when down again they were like "yeah we were talking such s**t" - they simply could not comprehend what they were thinking before. I felt lonely about then because I think like that all the time, but there are very few people who care about these things, and even fewer who can understand them....
....seems to me like they were accessing higher states of consciousness than their base states could comprehend.....

ps I personally found k a much nicer drug than salvia d.

pps Nitetrawler: I think the "elemental" beings Lobsang Rampa is talking about are the same things as negs, and I would agree. By taking drugs your energy body and defenses are weakened, combined with the psychological instability drugs can emphasise, makes you a tasty target for passing or pre-existing negs.

fallen angel hmmmm I am not sure I agree with your view that living in caves would be preferable - it seems to me that the grass is always greener. Our life expectancy is at least twice that of what it was in the stone age, we don't have to sleep on cold hard ground, and we have more knowledge than a giant could point a very large stick at, just a tap of the keyboard away. We can fly to distant places thousands of miles away or just slouch infront of the TV on weekends. Basically we have a choice, and lots of choice in how we live. If you want to go back to being a hunter/gatherer why not just sell all your belongings and go live on some distant desert island somewhere?! You could, but I think you would probably become very bored of it very quickly!
While technology has pushed us to the brink of destroying ourselves and our planet, please don't foget the good things it has done! Even the poorest people in western countries live plusher lives than our ancestors.

85% Salvia Divinorum hmmm...IMO if you take this expecting only to have an OBE you will get a lot more than you bargained for lol.
Ketamine is better at producing an OBE type state anyway, is very safe etc etc. But you will still experience serious mind altering effects with both! Which is interesting, but not very helpful if you just want to get OOB.

btw I think you have to take quite a lot of salvia before you start projecting, and from what I have heard the projections sound much more like they are internal - ie lucid dreaming, rather than astral projecting.

I was going to talk about fracturing of the personality etc  but I see that astralc has already said all that and I fully agree with him. I was reading a text I think called "revolutionary psychology" by some Gnostic bloke who laughed at the very idea that (most) people are any single "personality" - he said that everyone is simply a collection of different personas which clamour to be heard and "be " you. One of the goals of spiritual progressionis to intergrate all these "yous" into one You...I mean you have to progress every single side of you, which becomes easier when they are all in one place

Anyway I remember reading something 'kinda' similar from a chaos magick page, I'll paste it out below:



History:
Aeldor is an egregore created by magickal contamination, he used to be a
part of yours truly as a very, VERY evil AD&D character...(scoff all you
want) By the magickal contamination, being practising magick while still in
the Aeldor mindset, the part of me which was once a role I played became
semi-sentient, and turned into what psychologists would probable term "an
alter" however, as time progressed (some three years of "being" Aeldor for
five hours a week) Aeldor became more developed and real, in the sence that,
when playing the game, others perceived a distinct change in my demeanor,
and even in my facial features, which became very angular when in
character...

this went on for a while, until the character started to have insane and
theoretically impossible, luck with the dice...it was is if it did not want
to die,in a very bad way...I never failed any attacks or saving throws,
usually doing maximum damage on each attack.

This started to worry my dungeon Master who at one point addressed me in the
following way: "are you sure it's still YOU that's playing the game?"
Then it dawned on me...
Aeldor was alive...the rest of the OP-cult soon followed suit and told me it
was becoming obvious that Aeldor was no longer a part of my imagination
anymore...

then one day, Aeldor dissappeared.

I kept wondering why I could not properly roleplay the character
anymore...the answer was obvious, Aeldor had separated himself from my
etheric patter and become a spirit of sorts.

It was not soon after this that I atempted to contact him, it worked...
While being posessed by him, he told me that he was now free, no longer a
part of me...

Later I attempted several workings with Aeldor, and discovered that his
considerable "in-game" might, had not been lost during the transition from
fantasy to spirit...the person I attacked was never the same, and suffers
from Annorexia to this day.

Actually free energy devices should be quietly trickling onto the open markets in under a years time, half a year from now hopefully.
For more info my favourite site always has been:
www.cheniere.org
They have just recieved their first patent:
http://www.cheniere.org/references/MEG_Patent.pdf
...and have 2 more pending. The above .pdf link even has a diagram and explanations! I am told there are other devices coming out at around the same time, but don't know much about them.
I have seem so many pictures, designs, etc on the web for free energy devices. I have also heard stories about inventors being assasinated, inventions being stolen by terrorist groups like the Japanese Yakuza, and much more. These things do exists, and have been around since Tesla discovered them about 100 years ago now. The US government has known about them since at least the 60-70's, and the Russian government even earlier (excet they weaponised the technology). The technology has also been heavily proven by quantum physicists for tens of years, there have even been Nobel prizes awarded for peoples work in this area. Also using zero-point energy theories, f=ma has been proven - there is actually an article on the astral pulse all about this. Which is quite a hell of a big thing.

So the physics of free energy can be proven using quantum mechanics, its just that the electrical engineers are so damn slow and stupid they refuse to give up their classical, massively flawed, 100 year old theories. What is actually going on is that, in a similar way to how mass and enegy are interchangeable, so time can be converted to energy. A strange concept I know but thats how it seems to work. This is not to say the people who think it is converting energy from either are wrong, just looking at it from a different angle. I think it is also explained as converting energy from the imaginary 4th dimension (time domain) in spacial 3 dimension energy....um. So like a windmill is powered by "invisible" energy, same with zero point energy devices, you just can't "see" where the energy is coming from.

Well, I am certainly looking forward to buying one anyway - I have a nice idea that I want to be the first to fit one into a car! - btw the size of cars would dramatically decrease too, for obvious reasons. I do not believe that traffic would be too much of a problem, I mean, you could easily fit the technology into say bikes, and the next logical step if you have practicaly infinite energy is flying cars. Can't wait!!! Anti-gravity devices are also being researched in America, Japan and to a lesser extent England. They have managed to decrease gravitational forces by 12% last I heard, so we are getting there.
Again I do not believe cost is too much of a problem (the technology for the most party already exists), one of the main obstacles as I see it is that research scientists are on the whole in the pockets of the corporations, who generally have no interest in researching said technology. Be kinda like shooting themselves in the foot, once you have sold someone one, they won't need another for maaaany years. Government is another big suppressor, I am not entirely sure why, but likely comes down to power and conspiracies. Oh yeah and general arrogance/ignorance of the entire scientific community, thats quite a big one too....

All IMO but....we are heading for interesting times however you look at it!

Kristen - the USA Patriot act can be found at:
http://www.defenselink.mil/dodgc/lrs/docs/PL10756.pdf
I have tried looking at it, but I wouldn't advise anyone else to bother - it is a huge pile of legal garbage to me

However for more informed info, and I haven't read much on this site, just stumbled over it, go to:
http://www.freeexpression.org/patriot.htm

Please realise though that I am not trying to bash america, more state how things are (or may be). America should not be world cop, and history proves this, when most times america has intervened militarily the end result is usually chaos, suffering and some sort of totalitarian regime. Take Sierra Leone as a good example, the head there installed by the US (and I believe, British), the end result = genocide. There should not be any world cops, countries should be allowed to decide on their own form of government, not just what the US approves of. Eg Cuba has a better child death rate AND life expectancy than America, yet still they are percieved as red scum and shunned. Let it go and let them be!
(however I am not saying countries should never be interfered with, only that it should be done with care and the actions decided on by a collection of responsible countries, if such an entity could exists)

Frank I am not sure what the EU has to do with this am afraid, at the moment we are divided and for as long as that lasts (at least another 10+years) we will not be as strong as America. Thus the US really is the biggest player on the world stage, and so they tend to do what they like.

quote:from some ufo megazine from some channeling, and next thing you know we have a nasty little slurry of untruth.

quote:We are probably one of the farthest behind groups of people of each earth cycle (10,000years) to date. The Atlantians could even teleport, for you trekies. They had advancement like we cannot even begin to fathom.

aaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Almost all "info" on Atlantis comes from....wait!! New age channeling!!!!
Purely contradictory statements Tyrone.

btw you cannot prove that something doesn't exist without knowing everything that has ever existed. Therefore you cannot say negs do not exist, only that you have never met one. To say you are right and everyone else is wrong is to call everyone who has been unfortunate enough to come under psychic attack liars, fools and to demeane us to basically being under you in some inneffible way.

Comparing the USA to Nazi Germany is really not as far out as many would believe - the Patriot act effectively gives Bush near dictatorial powers. Not many people know this - including many members of Congress, who basically signed it without reading past the 2nd page, it was pushed so fast. If they didn't sign it, they would be labelled "unpatriotic". As is its rediculously stupid name. And to be labelled unpatriotic, in a country where 90% of the population supports then anti-terrorist campaign, is one hell of a big hammer. Some people say that Bush has legally more powers than Hitler, so we shall see where all this leads (somewhere dark and sharp I suspect). For me, I do not know, though i am starting to be able to back some of this up with referse speech ( eg Bush says "Our nations must spare no effort, at {preventing all forms} of proliferation" goes to "look thats your fault in Africa"....) - yes, I found that reversal, so not completely an armchair bitcher http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_tongue.gif" border=0> lol. And I have barely started. Me and Ashfo and going to set up a site with all the truth we can find, again, see where it leads.

It does not matter whether other nations would have followed a similar path, the hard truth is that the US has acted completely ruthlessly for too many years now. Karmically, the government is supported by the population, so what the goverment does, the general populace bears some of the debt for.

I do not believe it is human nature to at like this. Granted, it may be the nature of some people, but therefore it is the nature of an equal amount to oppose that view - just those people have been pushed underground. Power may currupt, but only to those who are not ready for it. A leader should be able to cope with and control such forces, which is where the american populace went so terrifyingly wrong in voting in Bush, I simply so not understand it, it is heredictory power, which goes against all the principles of democracy. It shocks and worries me deeply to see him in power. This, nobody can defend against. Then consider that 1% of the population controls 2/3rds of the wealth and you come out with a worrying picture

"the continuous consolidation of money and power into higher, tighter and righter hands" - Bush I

Kirath - did these faces or things you saw react to you in any way? I mean, did they acknowledge you, look at you, or project any emotions or energy at you? Why were you terrified - can you explain that in terms of normal reactions or was it like a wave of fear that overtakes you? If so this indicates intelligence, ie that they were more than just left over etheric ghosts. Many ghosts are just this, habitual actions prgrammed into energy which materialises every now and then, scaring a few people. But because they are not conscious in any way, they pose no threat. However, they could have been actual spirits - real people who have not moved on yet into the afterlife proper. But since you saw a variety of things this is less likely.
Ever experienced any psychic attacks, sleep terrors, full waking paralysis while you were seeing things? If so they could have been negs.

If not I think one of the most likely explanations is simply that because you were so young, you were seeing entities which are around some of the time anyway, but most people cannot see. I wouldn't worry about them, if they caused you no harm....
However as a precaution I suggest you go to the articles section on the astral pulse site, find basic psychic countermeasures and use CIR (Core Image Removal) on every memory of seeing things, especially the times when you were most scared.